Your race?

[The Monkey]

Originally Posted by Sprafa

There are races, it's idiocy to say they don't exist.

Just discriminating based off them is stupid.

The 4 major races are btw - Negroid, Caucasoid, Sinoid and Australoid, which is small diffuse races (such as Native American).

However much of mankind, such as the Portguese (subdivison of Caucasian) race, has been invaded so many times and mixed that races no longer really matter in this case.

Today the more used term is ethnic groups, which are strangely a lot - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ethnic_groups

Strange, very strange. I thought that that the use of races in that meaning was abandoned 50 years ago. I guess I was wrong...

[Sprafa]

Originally Posted by The_Monkey

Strange, very strange. I thought that that the use of races in that meaning was abandoned 50 years ago. I guess I was wrong...

Just saying "race" is nearly politically incorrect, but they do exist. Denying it is kind of dumb, but after Hitler most people don't like to think about it.

[The Monkey]

Originally Posted by Sprafa

Just saying "race" is nearly politically incorrect, but they do exist. Denying it is kind of dumb, but after Hitler most people don't like to think about it.

This is the exact opposite of what be learned at biology-class, and what is stated in most Swedish dictionary and lexicon. Well, nothing's perfect.

[Sprafa]

Originally Posted by The_Monkey

This is the exact opposite of what be learned at biology-class, and what is stated in most Swedish dictionary and lexicon. Well, nothing's perfect.

As I said today people like to think such things as race don't exist.

Originally Posted by Wikipedia

The term race is used in a wide variety of contexts, with related but often distinct meanings. Its use is often controversial, largely because of the political and sociological implications of different definitions, but also because of disagreements over such issues as whether humans can be meaningfully divided into multiple races.

In biology, some use race to mean a division within a species. Thus, in certain fields it is used as a synonym for subspecies or, in botany, variety. In the case of honeybees, for instance, it stands as a synonym for subspecies. In this usage, race serves to group members of a species that have, for a period of time, become geographically or genetically isolated from other members of that species, and as a result have diverged genetically and developed certain shared characteristics that differentiate them from the others. Although these characteristics rarely appear in all members of the group, they are more marked in or appear more frequently than in the others.

Many biologists feel that in this usage we may justifiably speak of dividing Homo sapiens into races. Many others, however, assert that in humans there is in fact insufficient categorical variation to justify the classification of humans into multiple races in a strictly biological sense. Many social scientists therefore view race as a social construct, and have sought to understand it as such, as explained later in this article. Thus, race is increasingly regarded as a non-biological term that often could be exchanged by population.

The remainder of this article reviews debates over the scientific validity of the concept of race in human beings; the historical construction, social functions, and cultural meanings of racial schemata; and the ethics and politics of the term.

Read the whole article and you get a picture of the mess.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race

I do agree that race is now nearly meaningless since we are more and more mixed, and therefore the most logical division is ethnic groups. But we humans started and evolve in different ways, or "subdivisions", which in biology means race. Although races inside Homo Sapiens is not so distinct as some people (and then you can call them racist) want you to believe, it's not inexistent. Many physical features do distinct between a Negroid and a Sinoid for example.

[B.Calhoun]

isnt wikipedia a site where anyone can write an artical?

I don't care what 'race' any of you are, and I don't think any of you should care what 'race' I am. The more you break people down into categories, the more unfair preconceptions you're going to inevitably end up having about the individuals within those categories. Even people I have a great deal of respect for (my parents, for example) occasionally come out with extremely generalised comments about entire populations or ethnic groups. Racism runs rampant.

[Sprafa]

Originally Posted by B.Calhoun

isnt wikipedia a site where anyone can write an artical?

yes, but it's a very good site because that's the point, all points of view are covered. Just read, it's a great site.

if you'd like a different source, check this awfully biased and small article - http://www.encyclopedia.com/html/r1/race.asp

[Dux]

Originally Posted by qckbeam

I'm white. Very, very, very white.

Should I fetch the Garlic and Stake?

I'm also White Trash. Wikki.

[Erestheux]

I'm suprised that this thread didn't turn into a flamewar yet. Good job!

I'm Caucacion. Caw-ca-tion. Caucation?

I can't spell it, though

[Lil' Timmy]

Originally Posted by Sprafa

The 4 major races are btw - Negroid, Caucasoid, Sinoid and Australoid, which is small diffuse races (such as Native American).

err.. the australiod would be aboriginal australians, not native americans. depending on which anthropologist you're reading, native americans would probably be their own race or lumped in with mongoloid (what you term "sinoid").

i'm more of a splitter than a 'lumper', so i like to draw less ancient lines of distinction, so i recognize ~10 races. but it's fairly arbitrary.

Originally Posted by Dux

Should I fetch the Garlic and Stake?

If you value your life you will!

[Sprafa]

Originally Posted by Lil' Timmy

err.. the australiod would be aboriginal australians, not native americans. depending on which anthropologist you're reading, native americans would probably be their own race or lumped in with mongoloid (what you term "sinoid").

i'm more of a splitter than a 'lumper', so i like to draw less ancient lines of distinction, so i recognize ~10 races. but it's fairly arbitrary.

I wasn't saying Australoid = Native American, I was saying Native Americans are an example of a "small diffuse race".

But it kind of gives that feel doesn't it

[The Monkey]

Well, in that case I'm a blond, blue-eyed white arian, and we are meant to rule over all other races...seriously, that thing about races are just silly.

[Sprafa]

Originally Posted by The_Monkey

Well, in that case I'm a blond, blue-eyed white arian, and we are meant to rule over all other races...seriously, that thing about races are just silly.

What I said was, races exist, but they make no difference in intellectual terms like some people suggest.

[Brian Damage]

"Goofy-looking"