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Old 05-09-2004, 11:51 PM
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Perendev's permanent magnet motor

I bet everyone's getting fed up of me with my persistance to inform you all of wonderful going's on in our not so normal world

http://www.pureenergysystems.com/new...tor/index.html

There is a video on the right of the page showing a walk round and power up of Prototype II. (Video of Prototype II)

The motor consist's of offset magnets in a Stator, and a rotor. It also intrigue's me to a point where I start to smile, as the device contradict's the second law of thermodynamic's.

The device uses powerful Neodynium magnets , and produces 20 killowats of power (enough to sustain your home requirements), there is also another device in design of a larger scale that can produce 4 megawatts (the equivelant to a small powerstation).

for those who dont quite get it ,

the beauty of this = no fuel required.
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Old 06-09-2004, 12:00 AM
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I like hearing about this stuff. Thanks Clarky.
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Old 06-09-2004, 12:02 AM
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np dude, It's what's important if you dont want Scientist's pretending that stuff like this doesnt exist in order to protect their jobs, and if you dont want corporate oil horder's ruling the world.
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Old 06-09-2004, 12:03 AM
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If such a thing exists, I hope it spreads across the planet quickly. Unfortunately, damn greedy owners of oil companies may have something to say about it. It's a shame that so many people must adhere to the greed of so few....
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Old 06-09-2004, 12:06 AM
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If the development and deployment of this were to be stopped, the people behind it should be rounded up and gassed.
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Old 06-09-2004, 12:07 AM
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So, lets get this right. This is a perpetual motion machine?

Obviously not. But from where does it draw its energy?
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Old 06-09-2004, 12:08 AM
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If such a thing exists, I hope it spreads across the planet quickly. Unfortunately, damn greedy owners of oil companies may have something to say about it. It's a shame that so many people must adhere to the greed of so few....
saftey and opinion in numbers,, this form of electricity will undoubtably be cheaper, which will win over customer's and put oil companies out of buisness.

cause you see , we have power over them , because we gave them power in the first place, we can just as easily change our minds for cheaper environmently friendly electricity.

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So, lets get this right. This is a perpetual motion machine?

Obviously not. But from where does it draw its energy?
The mangnetic force's constant superiority over the friction envolved, aslong as the magnets are good the device will turn for hundreds of years (aslong as the magnets last) if kept.
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Old 06-09-2004, 12:12 AM
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I'm doubtful of that. Its efficency ratio can't be 100%. That is defying the laws of physics. It cannot continually power itself, it must be drawing power from somewhere.

Even theoretical cold fusion does not have an efficency ratio of 100%.
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it most probably tie's its energetic constancey through Zero point energy, through the configurative interaction of the magnetic forces.

read about vaccum energy , but if youve watched the video its very clear that its a working PM motor.

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As the stators become engaged, the three rotors with off-set magnet alignment begin to spin. The speed is controlled by a governor. Without the speed control, the device would accelerate to destruction
is it possible in a certain way, magnets are a natural Zero point energy converter...?
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The mangnetic force's constant superiority over the friction envolved, aslong as the magnets are good the device will turn for hundreds of years (aslong as the magnets last) if kept.
No, you misunderstand. Magnets are not one-way devices. They have opposing poles. As that device spins, there will be an equal force opposing that spin.

Now somehow, the developers may have found a way to suppress that opposing force, but to do that takes energy. It also takes energy to overcome the friction as it is not contained within a vacuum.

There must be a source of energy for this machine to spin. You cannot 'create' energy, only transform it. Right now, I can only think of the earth's magnetic field being involved somehow. The more likely explanation is that its all a hoax.
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No, you misunderstand. Magnets are not one-way devices. They have opposing poles. As that device spins, there will be an equal force opposing that spin.

Now somehow, the developers may have found a way to suppress that opposing force, but to do that takes energy. It also takes energy to overcome the friction as it is not contained within a vacuum.

There must be a source of energy for this machine to spin. You cannot 'create' energy, only transform it. Right now, I can only think of the earth's magnetic field being involved somehow. The more likely explanation is that its all a hoax.
that would be one heck of an expensive and elaborate hoax,

have you heard of zero point energy atall?

http://www.fdp.nu/perendev/

just above middle of the page - magnetic interaction simulation
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have you heard of zero point energy atall?

http://www.fdp.nu/perendev/

just above middle of the page - magnetic interaction simulation
Oh trust me, I'm busily googling right now to make myself an all-knowing expert on the subject
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For you disbelievers....Nothing is impossible if you have the time and money.
Umm...laws of physics perhaps?
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Umm...laws of physics perhaps?
Well explain to me how it does?Give me a nice big write up of how it all works.
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