Two New Aftermath Screenshots! - Page 8

jondy · #**106** 10-01-2006, 11:37 AM

I've a feeling they're delaying it to add new tech to the engine. Playtesting motionblur and maybe DoF. And some HDR. And maybe some image-based rendering. And parallax mapping!

...or not

Betelgeuze · #**107** 10-01-2006, 12:52 PM

The screenshots are great and Im defenetly going to play it,
but the question is, is this what we have been waiting for?
Valve probably dont wants to show new stuff they are putting in but so far we didnt see any new monsters, location, characters, weapons, gameplay elements,...

lets hope we see some new stuff!

ZoFreX · #**108** 10-01-2006, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by armanguy

episodes that sounds gay! i want a full game not episodes damn!

If you use "gay" as a negative insult, I'm just going to dismiss you as a 12 year old idiot. Perhaps I should put this in terms you'll understand: YUO NT ALLOWED TO TLK!!11

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Originally Posted by armanguy

yeah i hate buying things over the internet with credit cards just doesnt feel safe at all! i rather have a box and manual it cooler too that why i dont bunr pc or console games i love the novelty of having the box and everything

Buying with a credit card online is actually safer than using it in real life. Less chances of card details being stolen, more consumer protection from the bank, etc.

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Originally Posted by Samon

Besides, how many people complained about the amount of content Valve showed in countless trailers and screens? They pissed and moaned because they thought Valve showed too much. Now if thats the case Valve clearly don't want to spoil anything for Aftermath, and therefore have decided to release some fairly non informative screens.

If by Aftermath we've gone spoiler free with no information on new weapons or enemies, then all the better.

QFT.

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Originally Posted by Varsity

Except that it's totally innacurate. Aftermath is six hours, people! That's more or less a third of HL2!

If Aftermath takes me 6 hours then it's pretty close to Pi's figure of 50%. I'm pretty happy with that.

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Originally Posted by Hectic Glenn

People want a book to read, not pages.

What a crap analogy. Here's a better one. I like the "Riftwar" saga by Raymond Feist, he's written several trilogies of books in this world he's created. If one of those trilogies was one book, I'd never finish it. However, they're neatly divided so as well as flowing from one to the other, there are suitable "stopping points" at the end of each book where I can put it down and feel I've finished. I often don't finish long games or books, and I think 6 hours is probably close to my perfect length.

One more thing - what's with the "ohnoes this will delay hl3" attitude? What do you want from Half-Life 3 that isn't going to be in these episodes?

#**109** 10-01-2006, 07:06 PM

As a side note, as usual, Valve's PR team (chiefly composed of Lombardi) has done an absolutely awful job of truly explaining what their chief product, Aftermath, is going to be. I think I can safely assume that 90% of the people who bought Half-Life 2 and are aware of or will be aware of the expansion have no idea it is merely a chapter of 'episodic' content.

It seems to me Valve's downgraded. From what I can tell, Aftermath started out as a traditional expansion (with a release aiming for the end of the summer), got chopped up along the way and now we're getting a business model pioneered by Sin Episodes -- something I'm not even interested in.

Listen, if you're going to do episodes, at least show me something interesting. Not a generic street, with the same car models, and the same enemies, and the same weapons -- and perhaps I'd really want to play it.

P.S. Half-Life III can't even be in the cards. Oh, and when are they going to officially cancel Team Fortress II?

*Pi Mu Rho* · #**110** 10-01-2006, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Eternity

As a side note, as usual, Valve's PR team (chiefly composed of Lombardi) has done an absolutely awful job of truly explaining what their chief product, Aftermath, is going to be. I think I can safely assume that 90% of the people who bought Half-Life 2 and are aware of or will be aware of the expansion have no idea it is merely a chapter of 'episodic' content.

It's still an expansion. Nothing in that regard has changed.

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It seems to me Valve's downgraded. From what I can tell, Aftermath started out as a traditional expansion (with a release aiming for the end of the summer), got chopped up along the way and now we're getting a business model pioneered by Sin Episodes -- something I'm not even interested in.

It's still an expansion. However, Valve are switching to a model where they release content more regularly in the form of several expansion packs, rather than working and not releasing for several years. That's the episodic content model. Ritual didn't pioneer it either - Valve started it first.

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Listen, if you're going to do episodes, at least show me something interesting. Not a generic street, with the same car models, and the same enemies, and the same weapons -- and perhaps I'd really want to play it.

What's that got to do with it being episodic?
It's an expansion pack following on directly from the events in HL2 - are you expecting them to have changed all the content?

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P.S. Half-Life III can't even be in the cards. Oh, and when are they going to officially cancel Team Fortress II?

It can't be on the cards? Why not? You're not privy to Valve's internal business, projects and schedules.

#**111** 11-01-2006, 12:26 AM

As I stated several times, there's a big difference between strategically made episodic content and a traditional expansion. Furthermore, this is something Valve has not done before -- and when I'm expected to pay for something, I usually buy it with the assumption that it will contain material that was not in the original game.

I'm sure Half-Life III is perhaps in pre-preduction, and who knows if Team Fortress II is vaporware yet, but I don't see HL3 coming out any time in the next two to three years -- hence, it's not in the cards.

ZoFreX · #**112** 11-01-2006, 02:52 PM

I'll ask again what I asked earlier - what do you want in Half-Life 3 that isn't going to be in the episodic content?

Garfield_ · #**113** 13-01-2006, 06:28 AM

Add these other four shots too

http://www.gamershell.com/pc/half_li...reenshots.html

Tamer17 · #**114** 13-01-2006, 07:33 AM

Well , in HL3 I would like to see DOG being captured and re-programmed to attck Gordon and Alyx. With all the tech and A.I level that will exist when HL3comes , DOG can be a kick-ass mid-game boss , like in HL1. He would be able to throw stuff and block objects the player throws and so on with little to no scripted events.

It would be nice if they made so you'll have to disable DOG rather than destroy it because Alyx will probablly want him back . This can give a possibility to the player to choose between destroying or keeping him - open-ended feature which won't affect the overall story too much ( what Valve wants) but still give a sense of freedom and choice to the players.

Perphaps they can place the part where the Combine captures DOG in one of the hl2 episodes.

*Samon Fish* · #**115** 13-01-2006, 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Garfield_

Add these other four shots too

http://www.gamershell.com/pc/half_li...reenshots.html

If you actually check our media page you'll find we already have them.

ZoFreX · #**116** 13-01-2006, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Tamer17

Well , in HL3 I would like to see DOG being captured and re-programmed to attck Gordon and Alyx. With all the tech and A.I level that will exist when HL3comes , DOG can be a kick-ass mid-game boss , like in HL1. He would be able to throw stuff and block objects the player throws and so on with little to no scripted events.

It would be nice if they made so you'll have to disable DOG rather than destroy it because Alyx will probablly want him back . This can give a possibility to the player to choose between destroying or keeping him - open-ended feature which won't affect the overall story too much ( what Valve wants) but still give a sense of freedom and choice to the players.

Perphaps they can place the part where the Combine captures DOG in one of the hl2 episodes.

Well whatever you want in HL3, there's nothing stopping it being in the episodes - Valve is upgrading the engine, not just content, so anything is possible.

#**117** 16-01-2006, 03:26 AM

Wow. The last level of HL2 with *gasp* a different sky box! I can't wait for this game! I definitely will be camping out side of Best Buy the night before its release.

Beakshy · #**118** 16-01-2006, 03:35 AM

It may just be me but is alyx having some streching problems in one of those screen shots?

ZoFreX · #**119** 17-01-2006, 03:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Obi_Kwiet

Wow. The last level of HL2 with *gasp* a different sky box! I can't wait for this game! I definitely will be camping out side of Best Buy the night before its release.

Please... just shut up now. I'd be the last person to tell people they can't share their own views on a forum, but this is for your own good.