New World of Warcraft race revealed... [Archive]

Sui

18-10-2005, 09:15 PM

It's true, I've seen screenshots.

I'm not going to post them here, because obviously they've been leaked, and that would make Blizzard very angry indeed.

I can however tell you that...

...the new Horde race...

...is...

TUNE IN NEXT WEEK!!

Only joking, it's the Blood Elves.
And yes... they're the new Horde race!

I'm so excited right now I could eat my own arm with anticipation. I honestly can't wait for the new expansion pack, it' sounds amazing! Not long now till Blizzcon, and all will be revealed, including the new Alliance race (hopefully)...

Don't know who the Blood Elves are? Here's a pic from Warcraft 3:
http://www.blizzard.com/war3x/images/units/spellbreaker.jpg

Sulkdodds

18-10-2005, 09:17 PM

Oh good, something sechsier than orcs. :naughty:

CptStern

18-10-2005, 09:24 PM

hmmm bet on the day of release there'll be a million plus Blood elves across dozens of servers ...heh time to fire up WoW and play a bit before xpansion comes out

The Mullinator

18-10-2005, 09:30 PM

Seriously? I was expecting Goblins long before Blood Elves as a playable race. Now I really don't have a clue as to what the new Alliance race could be.

Sulkdodds

18-10-2005, 09:33 PM

I hope and pray for Pandarens.

Septih

18-10-2005, 09:36 PM

something about this feels wrong to me... They better have a damn good story for the blood elves being on the horde side. That said, i always liked the blood elf knight like unit.

I too have seen some screenshots, but have heard nothing to totally proove/disproove them.

Javert

18-10-2005, 09:39 PM

I hope and pray for Pandarens.
QT to the F. Heehee finally my avatar has some significance in a conversation.

Angry Lawyer

18-10-2005, 09:40 PM

I refuse to play WoW until Nerubians are introduced as playable characters.

-Angry Lawyer

AmishSlayer

18-10-2005, 09:41 PM

Man, I remember back when WC3 was still in initial development, they were gonna have tons of races - Elves, dwarves, humans, orcs, undead, night elves and the infernal race I think. Then they cut some of the races down :(

StardogChampion

18-10-2005, 09:45 PM

They look very cool.

Lemonking

18-10-2005, 09:51 PM

awsome :D

Pesmerga

18-10-2005, 09:54 PM

O_o

I understand how they'd be Horde, but... what's the Alliance equal?

Either way, I don't think new races are being added. The two new "races" are the turbo car race and the jet gyrocopter race.

Icarusintel

18-10-2005, 09:55 PM

Ummm... why wasn't this race included originally? seems like laziness to me

The Mullinator

18-10-2005, 09:59 PM

Ummm... why wasn't this race included originally? seems like laziness to me
ummm... This is how all MMORPG's work. You might as well say something like this:

Why wasn't the HL2 expansion just included with the original game? Seems like laziness to me.

PunisherUSA

18-10-2005, 10:01 PM

So people will play more so they get more money...

Anyway... the funny thing is races only add a few racial abilities which is a miniscule difference compared to the variations created by the classes... so w/e

Sui

18-10-2005, 10:08 PM

Anyway... the funny thing is races only add a few racial abilities which is a miniscule difference compared to the variations created by the classes... so w/e

You're missing the point... not only do they look damn cool, but every race has it's own unique feel. A new race will add a trumendous amount to the game, because there will be new characters implemented all over the game world, new styles and fashoins, new native Blood Elf areas to explore... the impact will be huge, and that's just one new race. With the Alliance one too...

Sulkdodds

18-10-2005, 10:09 PM

And possibly new classes too.

Lemonking

18-10-2005, 10:14 PM

1 class minimum they said

Pesmerga

18-10-2005, 10:16 PM

And possibly new classes too.

I was hoping the Blood Elf would have been a class.

Personally I believe Priests and Paladins need their specs switched.

Remove the shadow spec in priest's trees, give it to Paladins (with more melee shadow buffs / melee attacks / auras), add a new creative tree for Priests which compliment their Holy tree, like Holy Form or something, where he's like the ultimate support class.

Paladins need to be simply darker, like Warcraft 2 Paladins.

Two new classes... Blood Elves and some sort of Necromancer class.

Lemonking

18-10-2005, 10:18 PM

its gonna be a race not a class

Sui

18-10-2005, 10:18 PM

I was hoping the Blood Elf would have been a class.

Personally I believe Priests and Paladins need their specs switched.

Remove the shadow spec in priest's trees, give it to Paladins (with more melee shadow buffs / melee attacks / auras), add a new creative tree for Priests which compliment their Holy tree, like Holy Form or something, where he's like the ultimate support class.

Paladins need to be simply darker, like Warcraft 2 Paladins.

Two new classes... Blood Elves and some sort of Necromancer class.

How the hell could Blood Elves be a class? It's a race! That's like saying "I want a Gnome class!"

Sulkdodds

18-10-2005, 10:21 PM

its gonna be a race not a class

Yes, I think he knows that.

If they are adding another class (which seems likely) then what will it be? Necromancer kind of thing seems quite likely although there's already a 'dark wizard' kinda class with the warlock... hmm.

Angry Lawyer

18-10-2005, 10:25 PM

Yet still no Nerubians. I feel cheated.

-Angry Lawyer

CptStern

18-10-2005, 10:29 PM

Yet still no Nerubians. I feel cheated.

-Angry Lawyer

I'd prefer to have the Horta

http://www.70disco.com/images/horta4.jpg

"the paiiiiin the paaaiiiiiin"

Pesmerga

18-10-2005, 10:30 PM

How the hell could Blood Elves be a class? It's a race! That's like saying "I want a Gnome class!"

Well, Blood Elves are more of a sub-sect of the Elves / Naga.

You lack creative spirit!

Sui

18-10-2005, 10:41 PM

Well, Blood Elves are more of a sub-sect of the Elves / Naga.

You lack creative spirit!

Night Elves are the only "True" elves... after their haven was destroyed, the Night Elves split in three. Most broke off and nestled in Kalimdor, where they grew the World Tree. The nobles, in their arrogance, were engulfed by the Malestrom, hideously changing into the Naga. The rest travelled to Azeroth, but because they were too far from the World Tree / the magic that keeps the Night Elves immortal, they faded and became High Elves.

And of course, the Blood Elves are simply the last remaining High Elves left alive. When I say "Blood Elves", I might as well be saying "High Elves". High / Blood Elves are a race... you can't just "choose" to become one... it would take years of bieng away from the World Tree, and seeing as Elves are now mortal, they would die before they could fade to High Elves :P Therefore, it is impossible for Blood Elves to be a class. Even if it WAS possible, it would be limited to only Night Elves, which is just silly.

Absinthe

18-10-2005, 10:43 PM

This is really cool, and it was the furthest thing from my mind. Good surprise. :)

Septih

18-10-2005, 11:13 PM

http://www.wowguru.com/gallery/imageview.php?screenshotID=581

Pandarans :/

CptStern

18-10-2005, 11:15 PM

http://www.wowguru.com/gallery/imageview.php?screenshotID=581

Pandarans :/

that's a fake right? not fuzzy pandas!!

Septih

18-10-2005, 11:17 PM

that's a fake right? not fuzzy pandas!!

well there is a panda character in warcraft 3, but that was a bonus level thing

after all i've seen today, i don't know what's fake or not anymore :(

The Mullinator

18-10-2005, 11:20 PM

http://www.wowguru.com/gallery/imageview.php?screenshotID=581

Pandarans :/
I could believe the Blood elf image, but the Pandaran picture looks extremelly fake to me. I mean I think that is just one of the standard Pandaran avatars from WC3.

I am more inclined to believe the blood elf stuff too considering there are pictures of their starting area floating around and those would be far harder to fake than the character creation screen.

Absinthe

18-10-2005, 11:31 PM

Why would Pandereans be on the Allies? Refresh my WarCraft memory.

Sulkdodds

18-10-2005, 11:33 PM

Dunno. Sui will tell you I expect. :p

I think that picture's probably fake. I mean if you were on the character creation screen, what would you click on - blood elves, or pandas?

Septih

18-10-2005, 11:34 PM

Why would Pandereans be on the Allies? Refresh my WarCraft memory.

why would Blood Elves be on Horde side? They are seperate from the Alliance but have nothing that binds them to the horde. I agree though, if anything the pandarans would be on the same side as the blood elves/illadin

Absinthe

18-10-2005, 11:37 PM

why would Blood Elves be on Horde side? They are seperate from the Alliance but have nothing that binds them to the horde.

True, but then the same could have been said for the Forsaken IIRC. An alliance between them would be more likely to form out of mutual gain.

Blood Elves didn't particularly enjoy the treatment by the Alliance.

Septih

18-10-2005, 11:42 PM

True, but then the same could have been said for the Forsaken IIRC. An alliance between them would be more likely to form out of mutual gain.

Blood Elves didn't particularly enjoy the treatment by the Alliance.

I suppose we could expect to see the blood elves in a similar situation as the forsaken then, in that they start off with only neutral with the rest of the horde factions and only friendly with undercity. That would work for story i suppose, however it would be a bit imbalanced in terms that it makes it harder for the horde to get the other race mounts. A minor problem but i've seen people whine over more.

Sui

18-10-2005, 11:43 PM

http://www.wowguru.com/gallery/imageview.php?screenshotID=581

Pandarans :/

reasons why this is probably fake.

1), Blizzard aren't lazy. I'm 99% certain they have a decent Blood Elf background instead of this shit Orc one.

2) that Panda icon looks crap.

3) The sleeves on the Night Elf do not have a back part.

4) there are not enough polygons on the model to make it look like a player.

5) all races start with SHIT clothes to begin with; this Blood Elf has royal gowns, which looks just like NPCs would wear.

6) The description, to the side, goes into detail about how the Blood Elves want to feast on Demons. Someone who's reading a discription of a race couldn't care less about what they like to eat; they want to know about the race. This discription is fake.

7) There is a very high possibility there will be a new class. If this is true, the Blood Elves would *definately* have this class. In the picture, there is no sign of a new class.

8) It's entirely possible that the Blood Elves would have a unique physical attribute that can be altered, seeing as most of the other races have a "special" customisation. This Blood Elf only has a...

OH, FOR GOD'S SAKE, IT'S FAKE ALRIGHT!!!

*Edit* As for the pandas...

The pandas are simply a joke by Blizzard. Admittedly, the Panda Brewmaster is a damn cool WC3 unit, but seeing as the panda has ALWAYS been used as a joke I'm pretty sure that a panda race is ALSO joke created by Blizzard. Plus... expansion packs are supposed to encoarage people to buy the game... by adding Pandas, Blizzard are effectively saying "HEY GUYS! BUY OUR GAME, IT'S JUST ONE BIG JOKE!"

Septih

18-10-2005, 11:46 PM

OH, FOR GOD'S SAKE, IT'S FAKE ALRIGHT!!!

good. I like the warcraft story making sense...

btw suicide42, PM's

clarky003

18-10-2005, 11:46 PM

either that or they really are that damn lazy. lol.

The Mullinator

18-10-2005, 11:48 PM

reasons why this is probably fake.

1), Blizzard aren't lazy. I'm 99% certain they have a decent Blood Elf background instead of this shit Orc one.

2) that Panda icon looks crap.

3) The sleeves on the Night Elf do not have a back part.

4) there are not enough polygons on the model to make it look like a player.

5) all races start with SHIT clothes to begin with; this Blood Elf has royal gowns, which looks just like NPCs would wear.

6) The description, to the side, goes into detail about how the Blood Elves want to feast on Demons. Someone who's reading a discription of a race couldn't care less about what they like to eat; they want to know about the race. This discription is fake.

7) There is a very high possibility there will be a new class. If this is true, the Blood Elves would *definately* have this class. In the picture, there is no sign of a new class.

8) It's entirely possible that the Blood Elves would have a unique physical attribute that can be altered, seeing as most of the other races have a "special" customisation. This Blood Elf only has a...

OH, FOR GOD'S SAKE, IT'S FAKE ALRIGHT!!!
Well there is going to be a new starting area (Blizzard representatives have said this) which probably means at least 1 new race. Add on to that the fact that there are Blood Elf starting zone pictures floating around with very new and unique architecture that seems to fit perfectly with the WoW world and it seems likely that Blood Elves are the new race. That entire character selection screen could be fake but that still doesn't mean Blood Elves won't be a new race.

I still think though that if there was going to be a new race it would have been goblins. I could seriously picture a yellow neutral race banner going down the middle in between the Horde and Alliance characters on the new character screen. Blood Elves and Goblins could easily be the races on that banner.

Sui

18-10-2005, 11:54 PM

Well there is going to be a new starting area (Blizzard representatives have said this) which probably means at least 1 new race. Add on to that the fact that there are Blood Elf starting zone pictures floating around with very new and unique architecture that seems to fit perfectly with the WoW world and it seems likely that Blood Elves are the new race. That entire character selection screen could be fake but that still doesn't mean Blood Elves won't be a new race.

I still think though that if there was going to be a new race it would have been goblins.

One: Blood Elves are the new race. That is the point in this thread. That picture, however, is fake. It was most likely created not to encourage people that there's a BE race, but more to re-inforce the rumour of a panda race.

Two: Goblins are not on the side of Alliance or Horde. They are, and forever will be Neutral. What would happen to Booty Bay, winterspring, and all the other random Goblin camps if they suddenly turned over to Horde? The only neutral faction in the game would be completely turned, meaning the Horde would have a major advantage. Oh, and there's already a Gnome race, people don't want ANOTHER.

Indeed, Blood Elves are DEFINATELY the new race. The only thing that is not 100% certain about them is wether they will be Alliance or Horde... at the moment it could be either way (although Horde is much more likely).

Actually, the only other race that could be Horde (apart from Blood Elves) are Ogres. The trouble is... they're fat and ugly.

Absinthe

18-10-2005, 11:59 PM

Didn't the Horde dissolve their alliance with the ogres though?

Any way, I wouldn't find their addition as a race to be too appealing.

Warbie

19-10-2005, 12:01 AM

I mean if you were on the character creation screen, what would you click on - blood elves, or pandas?

Panda, blatantly :)

clarky003

19-10-2005, 12:04 AM

That picture, however, is fake,your probably right but no solid proof?, not seeing the back sleeves (the view angle head on blocking that? droopy sleeve edges give the illusion of a slight upward angle..) the quite tackey look, (Blizzard's consistant high poly badass looking models :P)

couldnt the panda icon simply be a placeholder if its real, the description's sound genuine enough.

ríomhaire

19-10-2005, 12:04 AM

If I had WOW I'd be really exited. I always though the blood-elves where the hight of cool.

Lemonking

19-10-2005, 12:13 AM

http://www.wowguru.com/gallery/imageview.php?screenshotID=581

everyone that thinks that pic is real is stupid

Jintor

19-10-2005, 12:36 AM

So, speculations on the Alliance Race? (probably not pandas, ok?)

Sui

19-10-2005, 12:41 AM

your probably right but no solid proof?, not seeing the back sleeves (the view angle head on blocking that? droopy sleeve edges give the illusion of a slight upward angle..) the quite tackey look, (Blizzard's consistant high poly badass looking models :P)

couldnt the panda icon simply be a placeholder if its real, the description's sound genuine enough.

You want proof?

HERE'S PROOF:

A 1up.com blog revealed that the writer (who had been playing the Expansion), was not allowed to see the Alliance race (YET he knew what the Horde one was). He said that before Blizzcon, Blizzard were keeping the Alliance race a well-kept secret.

WHAT CAN WE DEDUCT FROM THIS? Well, firstly, Blizzard have shown the game to numerous people. This press-only Beta is obviously where the pics were leaked from. Because Blizzard refuse to include ANY MENTION of the Alliance race in this Beta, according to our 1UP journalist, it's safe to assume that Blizzard would not have included an icon to this race on the Character selection screen.

Therefore, this picture must have been faked; because it DEFINATELY didn't come from the Press-only beta, which is the only place it could have been leaked from. It wouldn't have been leaked from Blizzard, because nothing has ever been leaked from Blizzard before, so why would one of the employees risk their job with such a shitty picture?

There you have it. Undeniably proof (well, kinda proof) that this picture cannot be real.

Still want more? How about this: The REAL leaked pics are tiny, crappy quality teasers that actually look like they've been leaked from an article, rather than someone managing to capture in game screens. The character selection pic is an in game screen. If someone was able to smuggle out ONE crappy character selection screen, why didn't they smuggle out more? Maybe some DECENT screens instead of a shitty NPC-looking elf?

Quite simply; this is a photoshop.

Sui

19-10-2005, 12:49 AM

Oh, by the way, I found this image too:

http://www.wowguru.com/gallery/imageview.php?screenshotID=576

Firstly, this is definately a fake, because in the yop right it only says there are "four Horde Races", instead of five. Plus, there is a different icon for the blood elves. Hang on... is this a failed attempt? Looks like someone's been playing with photoshop...

*edit*

what's this?

http://www.wowguru.com/gallery/imageview.php?screenshotID=580

ANOTHER attempt?

And yet again, the icon is different once more. Oh what's this? They were taking screens from in game, on the Alliance side, and they didn't take a screen of what the Panda looked like?

Seriously, all these character selection screens are fake.

ktimekiller

19-10-2005, 12:50 AM

Although the bloodelves are kinda bad in the story line of war3, but they dont seem EVIL to be hordish, and they dont look hordish either.

Sui

19-10-2005, 12:55 AM

but they dont seem EVIL to be hordish, and they dont look hordish either.

The tauren are a peace loving, naturalistic race. The last word I'd use to describe them is "evil". But they're horde? :P

ktimekiller

19-10-2005, 01:10 AM

Well, they are big, they can crush you! RAWRWRRR but bloodelves.. ><

Cole

19-10-2005, 02:28 AM

Horde dosn't mean evil. Allies don't mean good. There 2 diffrent alliances fighting for 2 diffrent things.

It's no diffrent between Axis and Allies. From the Axis's point we were evil, we were horrible and bad!
From our stand point they were evil and horrible and bad. The Axis according to them they were doing a good thing, it's what they believed. We on the other hand disagreed.
"You can mass kill jews and take over europe"
"It's what must be done!"

Basically there is no real good and evil, it's just an opinon.

TheSomeone

19-10-2005, 02:54 AM

Ummm... why wasn't this race included originally? seems like laziness to me

Ummm... why didn't they release HL2 Aftermath with HL2? seem like laziness to me.

By the way, how can they be lazy? The head staff tells them to do stuff, and then they do it, where is there "Nah, I don't feel like doing this" involved? You can't be lazy and work for such a top company such as Blizzard, that's just oxymoronic.

Lazy = fired, Lazy != less races.

Sui

19-10-2005, 09:59 AM

Ummm... why didn't they release HL2 Aftermath with HL2? seem like laziness to me.

By the way, how can they be lazy? The head staff tells them to do stuff, and then they do it, where is there "Nah, I don't feel like doing this" involved? You can't be lazy and work for such a top company such as Blizzard, that's just oxymoronic.

Lazy = fired, Lazy != less races.

Yeah, exactly. Plus, the expansion pack is set through the dark portal, or something, which makes it all more feasable.

Kare Bear

19-10-2005, 11:12 AM

I hope there are Pandarens :bounce:

Gunner

19-10-2005, 12:31 PM

Agent.M

19-10-2005, 05:52 PM

New race looks really cool however I just dont see the point in renewing my subscription to wow cause everyone is high lvl now and its just not as fun.

Sui

19-10-2005, 06:00 PM

New race looks really cool however I just dont see the point in renewing my subscription to wow cause everyone is high lvl now and its just not as fun.

Except when the expansion comes out, Blizzard will add a load of new servers, meaning you can not only start at level 1 with EVERYONE else, but you can play a brand new, fresh race. HOW COOL WILL THAT BE?

Gunner

19-10-2005, 07:00 PM

New race looks really cool however I just dont see the point in renewing my subscription to wow cause everyone is high lvl now and its just not as fun.

Hey I'm the perfect example, I'll be renewing my sub and I'm gonna start a Blood elf or whatever the new race is on the alliance side. And everybody will probably start an alt with the new races too, so it'll be great, it will be like playing WoW for the first time again! I'm really excited about this :)

Lemonking

19-10-2005, 07:25 PM

december 2006? :(

The Mullinator

19-10-2005, 07:41 PM

New race looks really cool however I just dont see the point in renewing my subscription to wow cause everyone is high lvl now and its just not as fun.
All signs are also pointing to them raising the level cap to 70 as well.

oldagerocker

19-10-2005, 11:17 PM

This makes me want to renew, but i just cant afford to and my uni work would suffer. Rah. I guess i'll just renew for the holidays (christmas etc)

staticprimer

20-10-2005, 01:32 AM

All signs are also pointing to them raising the level cap to 70 as well.

I wonder if they would make the time it takes to get from 60-70 equal or near the time it takes to get from 1-60? That would definately add quite a bit of play time.

The Mullinator

20-10-2005, 01:39 AM

I wonder if they would make the time it takes to get from 60-70 equal or near the time it takes to get from 1-60? That would definately add quite a bit of play time.
I hope they do, maybe make it even longer. When I see a level 70 I want to be able to admire them for being so powerful, not just say "Oh look another level 70" like I do now with level 60's.

BRODIEMAN2k4

20-10-2005, 05:03 AM

reasons why this is probably fake.

1), Blizzard aren't lazy. I'm 99% certain they have a decent Blood Elf background instead of this shit Orc one.

2) that Panda icon looks crap.

3) The sleeves on the Night Elf do not have a back part.

4) there are not enough polygons on the model to make it look like a player.

5) all races start with SHIT clothes to begin with; this Blood Elf has royal gowns, which looks just like NPCs would wear.

6) The description, to the side, goes into detail about how the Blood Elves want to feast on Demons. Someone who's reading a discription of a race couldn't care less about what they like to eat; they want to know about the race. This discription is fake.

7) There is a very high possibility there will be a new class. If this is true, the Blood Elves would *definately* have this class. In the picture, there is no sign of a new class.

8) It's entirely possible that the Blood Elves would have a unique physical attribute that can be altered, seeing as most of the other races have a "special" customisation. This Blood Elf only has a...

OH, FOR GOD'S SAKE, IT'S FAKE ALRIGHT!!!

*Edit* As for the pandas...

The pandas are simply a joke by Blizzard. Admittedly, the Panda Brewmaster is a damn cool WC3 unit, but seeing as the panda has ALWAYS been used as a joke I'm pretty sure that a panda race is ALSO joke created by Blizzard. Plus... expansion packs are supposed to encoarage people to buy the game... by adding Pandas, Blizzard are effectively saying "HEY GUYS! BUY OUR GAME, IT'S JUST ONE BIG JOKE!"

Your forgot to mention that they spelled "brutal" wrong.

Anyways, another elf race? Meh, I can't stand night elves, I regret not rolling an orc as my first character just so I can kill them. But now 2 elf races? Well I guess since there on the horde, I can satisfy my elf bloodlust.

Lemonking

20-10-2005, 05:10 AM

so is it really gonna take till December 2006? :(

Gunner

20-10-2005, 11:51 AM

so is it really gonna take till December 2006? :(

Blizzcon is in eight days, they'll give more info then about everything including release date.

Baal

20-10-2005, 01:09 PM

Gunner

20-10-2005, 01:30 PM

Am I the only one who likes the game the way it is?

Even these MINOR MINOR patches get me uptight about changes.... :x

And blizzard can't even make a new non-buggy instance (Blackwing Lair anyone? Worst content patch EVER). I can't imagine a whole new world or continent.

Oh the new continents won't be so big, in fact judging by the few maps of WoW I've seen both continents (Northrend & Undermine alledgedly) together barely make up for 1/3 the size of azeroth.