Metal Gear Solid 4 trailer!!! [Archive]

VictimOfScience

16-09-2005, 06:30 AM

Dunno if anyone has seen this yet, but check out the new trailer here (http://tallah.org/video/mgs4.wmv)(right click -->Save As)

Absolutely amazing. I simply cannot wait for this one. I can watch it over and over and over....

EDIT: Just so there's no(more) confusion, this is the latest TGS 2005 trailer that was just released.

WhiteZero

16-09-2005, 06:37 AM

Already linked here:
Edit:http://www.halflife2.net/forums/show...t=91692&page=2

ailevation

16-09-2005, 06:38 AM

Holy shit, all this MGS4 stuff, sooo sexy! DOWNLOADING NOW!

HAHA soo funny how they make you think the game is FPS.

VictimOfScience

16-09-2005, 06:41 AM

Already linked here:
http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/adventure/metalgearsolid4/media.html

Um, no. That's the old teaser trailer. This one is from TGS 2005. Just released. Maybe try watching it first :cheers:

WhiteZero

16-09-2005, 06:46 AM

Um, no. That's the old teaser trailer. This one is from TGS 2005. Just released. Maybe try watching it first :cheers:
Oops... that text didnt copy over right. I meant it's linked here:
http://www.halflife2.net/forums/showthread.php?t=91692&page=2

VictimOfScience

16-09-2005, 06:53 AM

Oops... that text didnt copy over right. I meant it's linked here:
http://www.halflife2.net/forums/showthread.php?t=91692&page=2

Ha! 2 minutes earlier! Well, go figure. Makes sense putting the trailer in the screens thread :rolling:

Still, a great showcase.

WhiteZero

16-09-2005, 06:55 AM

Still, a great showcase.
Agreed. Can't wait for the direct feed.

dream431ca

16-09-2005, 07:34 AM

YIKES!! Not even pre-rendered!! Looks amazing..must buy!! :bounce:

Murray

16-09-2005, 09:17 AM

Snake is starting to look like Sam Fisher now.

Lucid

16-09-2005, 09:32 AM

Another MGS?

BHC

16-09-2005, 09:33 AM

wow... just wow... I cant wait

it saddens me to think I may never experience it though because i'l probably only be able to afford 1 next-gen console and I cant pick which I want :\

Lemonking

16-09-2005, 09:37 AM

I hope it they make it for the PC

Icarusintel

16-09-2005, 12:49 PM

holy shit! now i have no reason not to buy a PS3... that was amazing in real time, especially since it's working straight off PS3 hardware... just wow, i can;t wait... i love it, looks like slightly customizeable weapons this time around, which would be cool

Gargantou

16-09-2005, 12:56 PM

I hope it they make it for the PCI don't, unless they DON'T make it an half-arsed port like Substance was, MGS1 was the best PC port of the two.
You have to keep in mind Lemonking, that in Japan, PC gaming is not even half as big as it is "here"(US/Europe for example).
The only game that've really been popular for the PC in Japan in recent years is FFXI iirc, and even in that there're more people playing the PS2 vers than the PC, far far more(Inside of Japan that is.) :)

VictimOfScience

16-09-2005, 01:17 PM

Snake is starting to look like Sam Fisher now.
He was Sam Fisher in the E3 teaser trailer and then all the lights got turned on and there was "no place to hide." I expect a sort of Blackhawk Down style battle, but with Snake stuck between two warring factions, but I might be interpreting the video incorrectly.

mortiz

16-09-2005, 01:20 PM

The MGS development team at Konami has always been able to get the most out of the hardware they work on. Take a look at Metal Gear Solid 2 & 3, even though MGS 2 came out relatively early in the PS2's life span it's still one of the best looking games you can get on it.

jimbo118

16-09-2005, 02:07 PM

the trailer was great, for me this is like a hl3 video for you guys(or those who love hl over any other game etc), mgs is my fav series ever...i'm so psyched for it...a tad disappointed that this might be snakes last mission, hes getting on in this one it seems *sniff* who will replace him? raiden? raiden is supposed to be badass for this one...

Gargantou

16-09-2005, 02:26 PM

jimbo118

16-09-2005, 02:36 PM

I know how it is Jimbo.
Oh boy, I remember how I played through MGS1, I saw it in a store, rented it, came half-way, had to return it, bought it, completed, played through with stealth, and yadayadayada.:)
lol thats how i did it with mgs1 too :D , i rented it with my mates not knowing much about it, just after seeing the ad..we got to the hind fight against liquid and then i had to return it, i bought it after myself and fell in love with the series, it was probably the first game i got that made me play hours on end totally engrossed in it, got the strategy guide after and read about big boss and the previous other games stories and the characters, i really got into the whole world of mgs...MGS FTw!!!!!!!!

Lemonking

16-09-2005, 03:17 PM

but the PS3 will be very expensive......thats like the only Game I would want to play on that thing

Sprafa

16-09-2005, 03:36 PM

the game doesn't looks impressive at all, something in the lines of Splinter Cell 3 with higher resolution textures... knife is there, switching shoulder is there, hiding in the shadows is there, destroyed-city-that-reminded-me-of-Seoul-in-SC3 is there and the two supposedly competing stealth games are just becoming more and more alike...

Direwolf

16-09-2005, 03:39 PM

Except for all the massive differences in story line, game mechanics, visual style, characters, environmental interaction, sound design, etc, yeah.

Vigilante

16-09-2005, 03:53 PM

Real sweet trailer. I'm always confused how snake can be so actiony and smoke.

Sprafa

16-09-2005, 03:55 PM

Except for all the massive differences in story line, game mechanics, visual style, characters, environmental interaction, sound design, etc, yeah.

the game mechanics are beggining to equalize, Kojima has said that this game will be more "realistic"...

i just get an overall similar vibe

VictimOfScience

16-09-2005, 04:05 PM

the game mechanics are beggining to equalize, Kojima has said that this game will be more "realistic"...

i just get an overall similar vibe

That said, I think the whole "no place to hide" concept takes this far away from Splinter Cell territory and even far away from MGS territory for that matter.

And I think once you see the high-res direct feed trailer, you might not think that it just looks like SC3 with higher resolution textures. ;)

StardogChampion

16-09-2005, 04:10 PM

How can you comment on the game mechanics when that video is just a cutscene? The graphics do look amazing though.

Doppelgofer

16-09-2005, 04:14 PM

looks stunning...camera work very fluid and the animation unbelieveably realistic

just looks ace

Jangle

16-09-2005, 04:27 PM

looks awesome

and what was with the cigarettes in MGS1? you couldn't use them in any way...

jimbo118

16-09-2005, 04:32 PM

looks awesome

and what was with the cigarettes in MGS1? you couldn't use them in any way...
hehe oh yes you could;)

Vigilante

16-09-2005, 04:34 PM

looks awesome

and what was with the cigarettes in MGS1? you couldn't use them in any way...

Yeah you could, if you didn't have thermal googles you could use them to detect the infrared beams. EG. the hallway in the main hanger.

Axyon

16-09-2005, 04:35 PM

It does look rather good, but I'm speculative as to whether this cut-scene is in the fashion of the other MGS games, where they beef up the graphics and animations because they can work in a purely scripted environment. Show me some gameplay footage and I'll be convinced.

jimbo118

16-09-2005, 04:35 PM

they also kept snake from getting a cold in erm cold areas....

jimbo118

16-09-2005, 04:39 PM

you should check out the new mgs3: subsistence trailer, nice nod to the mgs4 1 ;)

http://www.gamespot.com/ps2/adventure/mgs3subsistence/media.html

contains mgs3 story spoilers

Jangle

16-09-2005, 04:48 PM

Yeah you could, if you didn't have thermal googles you could use them to detect the infrared beams. EG. the hallway in the main hanger.

they also kept snake from getting a cold in erm cold areas....

ohhh...

/me goes and sits in the corner

Sainku

16-09-2005, 05:59 PM

Snake looks like a pirate. Arghh.

Great graphics though, mgs is one of my favorite series.

Gray Fox

16-09-2005, 06:33 PM

I guess it's going to be nice. But no flying space monkeys.

knut

16-09-2005, 06:36 PM

I love those 'mini' Metal Gears walking down the street. Well, I assume their a Metal Gear branch, anyway. Still, wow. Amazing.

Gargantou

16-09-2005, 07:21 PM

Yeah, they're obviously a breed of ReX and RaY, the "head" is REX and the "legs" are RAY I think.:)

antimatter

16-09-2005, 07:28 PM

The only reason I bought a PS2 was MGS2. And this will be the only reason I buy a PS3. Looks amazing.

The trailer will also be released on the official MGS4 website later today: http://www.konami.jp/gs/kojima_pro/japanese/mgs4_04.html

Eg.

16-09-2005, 08:02 PM

ARGH, the tough chioce. No matter how much they butcher the game, making snake old, makeing him smoke cigs instead of CIGARS, i wil probably still buy it since it will be damn good. I mean hey, we've had the modern, badass, vioced by David Hayter Snake for so long, why should he leave?

jimbo118

16-09-2005, 08:09 PM

Eg.

16-09-2005, 08:17 PM

shut up, he was the most badass-eist of them all, man. i just hope theres a "moustashe(sp) Off" option

Unfocused

16-09-2005, 08:38 PM

Hey, the FPS part looked cool! I hope HL3 looks like that :)

Icarusintel

16-09-2005, 08:47 PM

shut up, he was the most badass-eist of them all, man. i just hope theres a "moustashe(sp) Off" option
yeah, sure, Big Boss was badass... til Solid Snake whooped his ass... twice

<RJMC>

16-09-2005, 08:50 PM

shut up, he was the most badass-eist of them all, man. i just hope theres a "moustashe(sp) Off" option
I am sure there are unlockables costume and one if the normal snake

btw will be cool if this mgs keep the same camouflage thing form the 3

smwScott

16-09-2005, 08:57 PM

shut up, he was the most badass-eist of them all, man. i just hope theres a "moustashe(sp) Off" option

Probably in the form of an Easter Egg. In MGS2 as Raiden you could find a shaver, then give it to Snake and he'd be clean shaven by the end of the game.

Although I like the moustache, pretty natural transition. The game looks absolutely amazing, and seeing as the MGS series is the best gaming has to offer, it's very possible that this will be my favorite game when it's released. The day this game comes out will be the day I buy a PS3, as MGS and HL are really the only games I care about.

mortiz

16-09-2005, 09:00 PM

Even badasses get old.

I like the older looking Snake, he still looks tough.

antimatter

16-09-2005, 11:33 PM

Anyone know of any Metal Gear Solid communities? Such as this one for the HL series.

DigiQ8

16-09-2005, 11:38 PM

www.metalgearsolid.org

antimatter

16-09-2005, 11:42 PM

www.metalgearsolid.org

Thanks. Seems to be down at the moment.

DeusExMachina

17-09-2005, 12:04 AM

Ok, screw Xbox 360, I'm gonna wait it out for the PS3 now.

jimbo118

17-09-2005, 12:13 AM

www.metalgearsolid.org
i'm a member there, its down alot, the mods are w*ankers imo, arrogant prats, particurly the guy who dubs himself ''the goderator'', cant remember his name atm....

Shakermaker

17-09-2005, 12:17 AM

shut up, he was the most badass-eist of them all, man. i just hope theres a "moustashe(sp) Off" option

Don't be stupid! moustaches ftw!!!!!1

http://www.veltz.dk/jpg/extras/magnum-01.jpg

Gargantou

17-09-2005, 09:04 AM

Hopefully MGS4'll release late 2k6, that'll give me some time to save up for the PS3, seeing as I'll most likely not be able to afford it if it releases in March.:)

Samon

17-09-2005, 09:32 AM

Awesome

Alan Freeman

17-09-2005, 09:39 AM

Amazing!!! WOW was that in game ????

Alan Freeman

18-09-2005, 07:25 AM

Hello still havent answered my question.

TIIMMYY

18-09-2005, 09:11 AM

Site down? I cant get on.

DigiQ8

18-09-2005, 09:14 AM

Hello still havent answered my question.
Kojima says so

Samon

18-09-2005, 09:18 AM

Hello still havent answered my question.

Hello can't see where it says we have to.

And, I think it is.

Gargantou

18-09-2005, 09:42 AM

I just checked out the "new" trailer where they actually manually control the camera around Snake.
And they moved the "light-source" around, the funny thing was there was nothing else casting shadows.:)
It was like the only dynamic shadows in the trailer atleast are Self-Shadowing.
And the fact that they use light-maps otherwise probably means we won't be seeing any really dynamic day and night cycles like I had hoped.

It's still nice but I do believe the UE3 for example could kick it's royal arse, but so far that's just my belief.
I guess we'll see for sure 2k6/2k7..
I'm hoping for'em to make it so that lamps etc too casts dynamic shadows..

DigiQ8

18-09-2005, 09:47 AM

Direct feed video
http://s32.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=27Z0J42X74D1T1K1SWZY1NO4EK

Shakermaker

18-09-2005, 11:24 AM

Direct feed video
http://s32.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=27Z0J42X74D1T1K1SWZY1NO4EK

Thanks, downloading now. I see it's in .asf-format. What's that?

EDIT Wow, great vid. It looks -of course- better than the shaky vids earlier this week. I also liked the last bit where Snake is talking to the little robot about the cell chip. Didn't see that in the shaky vids. Very funneh. "Snake, don't you wanna win the console-wars?"

Dalamari

18-09-2005, 11:50 AM

I..don't...like...old...snake...

Please Hideo, let us play Raiden in a non-skin tight suit.

Shakermaker

18-09-2005, 01:14 PM

I..don't...like...old...snake...

Please Hideo, let us play Raiden in a non-skin tight suit.

In support of the new Snake Jimbo and I added new avatars. Moustache FTW !!!!11

Lemonking

18-09-2005, 01:17 PM

CRAB BATTLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111111111one!!!!!!one!!!

jimbo118

18-09-2005, 01:20 PM

CRAB BATTLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111111111one!!!!!!one!!!
lol, that was teh funnay...

DeusExMachina

18-09-2005, 01:24 PM

I..don't...like...old...snake...

Please Hideo, let us play Raiden in a non-skin tight suit.

s...t...f...u.

Snake looks amazing, be quiet :|

Samon

18-09-2005, 02:29 PM

s...t...f...u.

Snake looks amazing, be quiet :|

Whether you realize it or not, he is welcome to an opinion you know.

But I personally think Snake looks great. "Snake, you haven't aged well." :P

DeusExMachina

18-09-2005, 04:11 PM

Its not that, its his opinion you know, whatever. Its the fact people keep on complaining about his look everywhere I go, especially IGN. They're like "Oh don't worry, we'll play Snake in flashbacks with him as his younger self" or "I hope we can remove the moustache." People were expecting a younger snake and now are mad its not. He has to be old now or else the storyline wouldn't make any sense. He already looked like he was in his early to mid 40s in MGS2 when he was only 37 or so. Now, he's probably about 46 or so and he looks 55. It works. With his advanced aging, fox die, and fighting a never ending battle, he should look 55.

Samon

18-09-2005, 10:36 PM

Well, I'm inclined to agree. Some people are taking it very badly, and are living in denial. Its just too bad really. It'll pass over and slowly people will accept it, some sooner than others...the same thing happened with Snake eater when it was said you play as Big boss.

Some took the stance of: "omfg no you don't, its Snake in a machine replaying bits of Big boss's memory!"

Which, I laughed at. Gradually, most people will accept it.

Shakermaker

18-09-2005, 10:37 PM

Absinthe

18-09-2005, 10:50 PM

It'll pass over and slowly people will accept it, some sooner than others...the same thing happened with Snake eater when it was said you play as Big boss.

I found that most people were excited to play as Big Boss.

I understand why they don't like old Snake. My dad is 55 and he doesn't look anything like that. This Snake looks like he's freakin' 65, possibly 70. And people can go on about "OMG it's part of the story don't you get it?!?!" and here's the thing: I don't care. I don't care if it was intentional and it makes sense within the context of the story. That doesn't make it look any less stupid.

As for the video itself... well, aren't I the (un)healthy skeptic as always? Anybody that played MGS2 knows that they tend to buff up and shine their cutscenes in terms of visuals, animation, sound, everything. So much to the point that they are ridiculously removed from what you experience in terms of actual gameplay. Everything in that video seems to be exactly that. And I find it hilarious that they pimp up the PS3 by showing that pre-rendered Killzone footage. OE YES TEH REVOLUTON!!!!!11!~! You can whipe the jizz from your face now.

That said, I do get some entertainment out of the games. I'll give it a shot. I'm just cautious. Both Sony and Konami have a history of dressing up their products as something more than they really are.

Samon

18-09-2005, 11:02 PM

I found that most people were excited to play as Big Boss.

Well, I thought it there was a split opinion. I thought alot of people were opposed to the idea, but gradually, or rather rapidly, it began to grow on them.

I await to see what cock bull story Kojima pulls out of course, I mean, it cannot be any worse than living through an arm, no? Meh, I think it looks awesome all the same. :P

French Ninja

18-09-2005, 11:12 PM

I..don't...like...old...snake...

Please Hideo, let us play Raiden in a non-skin tight suit.
...and normal non feminine hair. :|

Sainku

19-09-2005, 02:29 AM

I would actually like a much much less feminine raiden.

I personally wouldn't care if snake was 70, but the mustache is just crazy looking.

LittleB

19-09-2005, 02:41 AM

VictimOfScience

19-09-2005, 09:00 PM

And Gamespot has an article that details a bunch of great stuff from the trailer and beyond. Here's a snippet:

Kojima repeated that the concept behind MGS4 is "no place to hide." He also confirmed that the game takes place in the war zone, but he didn't name any specific locale where the game takes place. "MGS4 will take place in a 'situation' rather than a 'location,' and the situation is the war zone," he said, revealing that there will be other locales in the game. "Aside from the war zone that we've just shown [in the trailer], Snake will infiltrate other war zones throughout the world."

Just think of the cool places that Snake could be infiltrating--thanks to some questionable foreign policies, the whole world could potentially be available for missions!

The whole article can be found here (http://www.gamespot.com/news/2005/09/18/news_6133820.html).

jimbo118

20-09-2005, 12:08 PM

There are no friendly soldiers or enemy soldiers this time," he said. "It's a war zone, so whether they'll become allies or foes is all up to the player."

sweet, cheers for the link...

"Old characters are better because their wrinkles can be used to show the rendering capabilities of the PS3," he said. "Young characters have silky skin, so it's not as challenging."
lol

destrukt

20-09-2005, 12:28 PM

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=11621

kgo.

VictimOfScience

20-09-2005, 02:47 PM

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=11621

kgo.

From that article:
Gamers are a very smart bunch, and gamers who still haven't seen a PS3 or seen one played, will make the determination. The English expression is, the proof of the pudding is in the tasting. Having videos, having characters in videos... The fact that they feel the need to have Snake tell you that it's powerful, that could be seen as a sign of worry, or weakness, potentially," Moore concluded.

Wow. This guy and J. Allard are just crazy. He obviously has no idea how Kojima works. He probably saw the Metal Gear Raiden:Snake Eraser trailer and thought it was a terrible business move and demonstrated potential weakness from the Sony camp. Kojima is a funny guy--having Snake talk about the Cell is nothing short of hilarity--I got a great kick out of it.

He is right, though, the proof will be in the pudding that developers make from ovens(360/PS3) that are very similar in power.