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TheSomeone
31-07-2005, 06:20 PM
From now on, every week, I will post at least 2 drawings. I'm really, really looking to improve, so please, be harsh critics. I can get praise from my mom :P.

First 2:

Shippi
31-07-2005, 06:38 PM
The genie is a little out of proportion.. the arms look a little short. The upper arm (to the elbow) should go down to around belly button height, and the forearm to below the hips. Looks great, other than that though.

The shape of the woman's head is a little off I think, though it could just look that way because of the left (our right) eye, which should curve down a little rather than be straight. :)

:D Great stuff though

TheSomeone
31-07-2005, 06:55 PM
Thanks SHIPPI! You don't even know how much I appreciate that stuff. :D

The arm is actually supposed to be foreshortened since its going backwards, I definetly need to work on that :P.

Yeah, I totally agree the head is kinda wierd. She was making that wierd, sensual face with her eyes and I gave up on reproducing it after wearing out an eraser :P.

Shippi
31-07-2005, 07:55 PM
The arm does kinda look like it's going backwards, but it doesn't at the same time... I can't quite place what's wrong with it :P

:)

TheSomeone
31-07-2005, 08:50 PM
The arm does kinda look like it's going backwards, but it doesn't at the same time... I can't quite place what's wrong with it :P

:)

Well the fore arm is supposed to come back front, but it doesn't overlap the bicep, which is wierd. Maybe that's it.

nofx
31-07-2005, 11:27 PM
imho you shoudl do more than just two drawings a week maybe 2 drawings every 3 hours.. decent drawings eh lol

TheSomeone
01-08-2005, 12:22 AM
imho you shoudl do more than just two drawings a week maybe 2 drawings every 3 hours.. decent drawings eh lol

Don't worry, I do at least 2 drawings a day, but I don't need to use up HL2.net bandwith in order to show my progress. :)

eatbugs
01-08-2005, 06:34 AM
I think you need to rethink your approach. 2 drawings a day isn't really helping if you don't have a guide to go from. You really need to copy from the masters or study anatomy which is what everyone tells you to do but I think the most worthwhile thing to do is "Draw lines, lots of lines"- Ingres.

TheSomeone
01-08-2005, 07:35 AM
I think you need to rethink your approach. 2 drawings a day isn't really helping if you don't have a guide to go from. You really need to copy from the masters or study anatomy which is what everyone tells you to do but I think the most worthwhile thing to do is "Draw lines, lots of lines"- Ingres.

Yeah actually 90% of my drawings are from reference. Only the woman on this one, but I figured I should post one of each for variety.

It's funny because for months I was telling you to improve your line quality, and now it's your new obsession :upstare: .

Just playin' with you.

<3

If you have criticism on the drawings though, don't hesitate! I really appreciate it.

eatbugs
01-08-2005, 08:48 AM
lol, my "new obsession" I love it:laugh:

In the end I think it comes down to which direction you want to take in drawing and painting because there are alot of different ways of doing things keep posting your stuff though it makes mine look good J/K :D :D now we're 1 all.

TheSomeone
06-08-2005, 06:55 PM
4 Drawings today, although 3 are older than a week :).
From now on I'm including personal critique and commentary on each drawing I'm posting.

3-Mafia: These are two character concepts for a fun party game based on the role-playing game most everyone knows (the one where you sleep every turn and there's a spy and blabla). The reason I'm fairly satisfied with those is because I was going for a comic-book, see cartoony, feel. If I was going for realisim, the proportions are a little off, but they satisfy their purpose IMO.

4-BeautifulFace: is pretty much exactly what it says :). This one is very weak on tone and shading, but fairly succesful in capturing shape and outline.As always, I'm too lazy to draw the hair.

5-QuickSketchofaGirl: This one was done in about 5 min. TOne is pretty weak in that one again, but I think the shape is pretty much down.

6-ManatStaircase: This one was done two days ago, the most recent one. As you can see, I'm starting to work on my tone and shading a lot more. TH is one didn't turn out so great, but I'm not drawing to show right now, I'm drawing to improve :).

SO PLEASE! CRITCISM IS 200% WELCOME!

eatbugs
07-08-2005, 06:31 AM
You know, you and I have completely different drawing styles, yours is light and shaded mine is dark and shows a mastery of line! anyway I really think the Manatstaircase looks great but doesn't have depth of tone if you know what I mean, its all done in mid tone. That one is easily the best though keep it up

ktimekiller
07-08-2005, 06:31 AM
good stuff, but im still stunned at the fact that i found out shippi is a girl only a week ago 0_o

TheSomeone
07-08-2005, 07:46 PM
You know, you and I have completely different drawing styles, yours is light and shaded mine is dark and shows a mastery of line! anyway I really think the Manatstaircase looks great but doesn't have depth of tone if you know what I mean, its all done in mid tone. That one is easily the best though keep it up

Thanks eatbugs, I agree with you on pretty much everything you said. I think I also need a darker pencil, I'm just using regular HB right now.

ktimekiller: LOL! Good job being out of it :P. Thanks.

Shippi
07-08-2005, 10:55 PM
good stuff, but im still stunned at the fact that i found out shippi is a girl only a week ago 0_o

:laugh: :laugh:

TheSomeone, your latest pieces are good. But in the Staircase one in particular your shading's very rough and there's no depth to it.. vary your tone a little more and things'll look a lot better

TheSomeone
07-08-2005, 11:34 PM
Thanks for the tip shippy :).

TheSomeone
08-08-2005, 07:25 PM
2 drawings based on shippi's tip (and using a 6B pencil) and since eatbugs inspired me with his endless love for concept art, two drawings of imaginary beats, both done in about 5 minutes.

CptStern
08-08-2005, 07:36 PM
some nice work, good technique

a few points:

always always always use a reference when drawing humans/animals ..even the best artists use models and references ...memory only provides an incomplete picture ..better to go tot he source

need work on porportions ..your bodies are often out of porportion ...which is ok if you're drawing comics/video game stuff (just keep in mind that the porportions are exagerated to a degree ...look up any concept from U3 ..all the heads are always small in comparison to the bodies)


try to vary your tones ....try work on images that have shadows from the darkest dark to the lightest light ..good example (http://www.isle-sur-sorgue-antiques.com/fun/concerts-shows/clair-obscur-chiaroscuro-photo-cello.jpg)


edit: your first 2 images above are much better at varying from dark to light


all in all good work that will improve the more you work at it

Jimmeh
08-08-2005, 07:42 PM
Nice work :) I like the Minotaur.

The only thing I can see is even with that 6B you're still not pressing hard with pencil at all. Just a HB pencil is great for both dark shading and finer details, don't be afraid to press hard and build up shaded areas, at the moment your drawings seem to lack contrast and depth. You should try and vary your tone a little bit more to give things depth and make them look three-dimensional. Focusing on the Jesus pic, the whole drawing isn't very defined, maybe by using lines around the edges to bring out the shapes (although using them is just a personal preference).

;) Keep it up though, they still look good :)

personally I like your work much more than eatbugs' stuff

Edit - damn you Stern!! But great advice ;)

TheSomeone
08-08-2005, 07:53 PM
CptStern: Thanks for the comments, I really do appreciate pointers and criticism :). I will try using reference for my concept art as well from now on. I'll keep working on my rendering. I also started a sketchbook at conceptart.org and now I'm getting double the criticism :D, I'm so excited about learning. I've been reading a lot of loomis too and will try to apply his tips on shaping and anatomy.

JiMmEh: Thanks Jimmeh :). In addition to me not pressing hard enough, my scanner is also a $10 piece of crap, the darks on the jesus pic are much darker than on the scanned picture. But I agree about bringing out the shapes, which is coincidently exactly what I'm working on :D. I did a few sketches where I really blocked out the forms and planes. They turned out pretty ugly but I'll keep practicing :).

TheSomeone
09-08-2005, 05:05 AM
Finally got around to studying anatomy, and it'st he most fun I've ever had drawing. (all in pen)

http://img131.imageshack.us/img131/5480/12muscles24tn.jpg
http://img131.imageshack.us/img131/9587/11arms1vo.jpg

C & C encouraged :).

eatbugs
09-08-2005, 08:23 AM
This is the kind of stuff that I should probably do..... . I'll post something tommorow that might speed things up for you a little bit. By the way, are you copying those from a book or master? or some....thing?

TheSomeone
09-08-2005, 07:43 PM
From somewhere on this site: www.saveloomis.com

(and those were done entirely in pen, no pencil underlining)

And what do you mean by " I'll post something tommorow that might speed things up for you a little bit." ? :confused: (<- imagine this is a confused smiley :P)

EDIT: Oh I got it, I'm assuming you have some scans/links to anatomy stuff.

Shippi
09-08-2005, 07:58 PM
Good stuff, TheSomeone :) Anatomy study is something I really need to do more of. It kind of bores me, tbh. I look at anatomy pictures quite a bit so I know something, i can never bring myself to sit down and actually draw it out it like that though. I will, though, i know i should.

Keep it up :)

TheSomeone
09-08-2005, 08:12 PM
Thanks SHIPPI, give it a try and you'll love it :D.

I'm getting really obsessive over art ever since I posted my work at conceptart, they're such a nice bunch over there!

CptStern
09-08-2005, 08:17 PM
Good stuff, TheSomeone :) Anatomy study is something I really need to do more of. It kind of bores me, tbh. I look at anatomy pictures quite a bit so I know something, i can never bring myself to sit down and actually draw it out it like that though. I will, though, i know i should.

Keep it up :)

the absolutely best way to learn to draw the human figure is to do life drawing ...you know, a model, one pose, 2 minutes to do the gesture sketches in conte ...you guys still do that in art class right? take a semester of that and you'll see your artwork vastly improve

Shippi
09-08-2005, 10:54 PM
the absolutely best way to learn to draw the human figure is to do life drawing ...you know, a model, one pose, 2 minutes to do the gesture sketches in conte ...you guys still do that in art class right? take a semester of that and you'll see your artwork vastly improve

We don't do anything like that in art lessons at school, would love to do it tho. I'm not sure if there are any life drawing classes (outside of school i mean) near me, I might have a look

Crushenator 500
10-08-2005, 01:07 AM
The arm is actually supposed to be foreshortened since its going backwards, I definetly need to work on that :P.
Shading

Don't try and copy things exactly, and your own work will look better because of it. put things where they look right on the page, not where they are exactly in a picture. Photocopiers and scanners were made to achieve perfection, you should draw so it looks right, not so it is :)

I hope that made sense... :E

TheSomeone
10-08-2005, 01:51 AM
Yes it does (make sense) crushenator :). It's what I'm trying to learn. It's coming slowly, but I'm dedicated to it.
:).

chu
10-08-2005, 02:10 AM
Anatomy, drapery, and hands are my weak points right now. I picked up several books of amazon.com and plan to dive into them soon.

Though since I have been working out i've been developing a little more knowledge in human muscles.

StardogChampion
10-08-2005, 03:17 AM
Ahhhhhhh, don't use biros to draw things.

I would also say press harder with the 6B pencils, but that's already been explained.

TheSomeone
10-08-2005, 04:07 AM
What are biros?

CptStern
10-08-2005, 04:51 AM
We don't do anything like that in art lessons at school, would love to do it tho. I'm not sure if there are any life drawing classes (outside of school i mean) near me, I might have a look

assumption 1. ..you're in unviersity? if so, the art courses should have life drawing

if you're not you could always visit the nearest university/college and see if they have open drawing classes

sometimes they offer sort drop in centers were you pay $5 to draw models for an hour ..the models usually run it to make some spare cash in between classes ...no instructors, so the school doesnt mind if people drop in

TheSomeone
10-08-2005, 04:57 AM
I'm pretty sure Shippi is younger than that.

eatbugs
10-08-2005, 06:17 AM
A bit off topic but I have heard bad things about university art courses. The nude model was writing his opinion on how the teacher taught the students. Its a long story but later on he went round the class when everyone had left and it was worse than the stuff we are doing!!

TheSomeone
10-08-2005, 06:46 AM
Well that might be a university in particular. I'm sure there are some good art teachers out there.

eatbugs
10-08-2005, 06:55 AM
I can't believe you don't know what a biro is lol its a pen. Even Kenith clark wrote, something along the lines of, "They come out of a 4 year course and don't even know how to draw!" this is the top American art institute he is talking about too.

ktimekiller
10-08-2005, 07:53 AM
Looks great, now, only if it was colored/finished :P shippi, me dont like your new vatar =(

eatbugs
10-08-2005, 09:12 AM
Thesomeone I was having a look at your drawings that I missed and I know you'll take this the wrong way but your line quality isn't as great as all that. It needs to flow more you need to show precision in your line but at the moment I think you've reached a point where you need to incorporate these things into your drawing. I always try to think when doing my drawings. "Would anyone want to buy the finished piece?"- Lear.

TheSomeone
10-08-2005, 09:33 AM
Thesomeone I was having a look at your drawings that I missed and I know you'll take this the wrong way but your line quality isn't as great as all that. It needs to flow more you need to show precision in your line but at the moment I think you've reached a point where you need to incorporate these things into your drawing. I always try to think when doing my drawings. "Would anyone want to buy the finished piece?"- Lear.

I totally agree with you about my line quality, it's something I'm trying to work hard on. I thought using a pen, or as yall crazies call it a "biros" in order to gain confidence in my strokes. I still use pencil, but the pen is a nice change. :)

I'm not too sure what you mean by that last part though. Right now I'm working to improve, not to please.

Peace.

EDIT: I skipped over the part where you said that you knew I would take it the wrong way. I don't think you would ever be able to find a post where I have not whole-heartedly agreed with and taken in constructive criticism such as this. Unless, by your definition, "taken the wrong way" means "being very pleased by such criticsm" you are off by a mile.

You have a big misconception about what offends me, here it is in a bottle:

Criticising an entire community of artists: very bad.
Criticising my work: very good.

eatbugs
10-08-2005, 10:00 AM
I don't know if I can keep critiquing you on and on forever but some things I've learnt are
1. Don't use biro, apparently.
2. when you start a drawing don't rush ahead start with dots to indicate
3. Draw lots of lines, in this way you will become a good artist

4. who is your favourite painter ?

Sparta
10-08-2005, 01:15 PM
Anatomy, drapery, and hands are my weak points right now. I picked up several books of amazon.com and plan to dive into them soon.

Though since I have been working out i've been developing a little more knowledge in human muscles.
Yeah drawing hands can be a total bitch sometimes. Sometimes i can't draw them to save me, sometimes i can draw them perfectly.

Shippi
10-08-2005, 01:36 PM
assumption 1. ..you're in unviersity? if so, the art courses should have life drawing

if you're not you could always visit the nearest university/college and see if they have open drawing classes

sometimes they offer sort drop in centers were you pay $5 to draw models for an hour ..the models usually run it to make some spare cash in between classes ...no instructors, so the school doesnt mind if people drop in

I'm 16, we've nothing like that in school. We're not taught how to draw in art lessons at all. They suck. But I'll see if the college here has any open drawing classes :)

And I like drawing with biros, I do it quite often :P

Crushenator 500
10-08-2005, 02:35 PM
I'm 16, we've nothing like that in school. We're not taught how to draw in art lessons at all. They suck.
Yeah, we aren't taught art, we're just told to draw. It's not too bad though I guess, lets you get on with it instead of someone looking over your shoulder telling you what you're doing wrong constantly. :p

TheSomeone
10-08-2005, 06:08 PM
I don't know if I can keep critiquing you on and on forever but some things I've learnt are
1. Don't use biro, apparently.
2. when you start a drawing don't rush ahead start with dots to indicate
3. Draw lots of lines, in this way you will become a good artist

4. who is your favourite painter ?

1. I find that to be wierd :-/.
2. Yeah, I alwalys do that on portraits for reference points.
3. :P

4. Touch decision: Michelangelo, Ingres, possibly Van Gogh.

CptStern
10-08-2005, 06:25 PM
Yeah, we aren't taught art, we're just told to draw. It's not too bad though I guess, lets you get on with it instead of someone looking over your shoulder telling you what you're doing wrong constantly. :p

okay well that's not really an art class ...more like a general art class so that people with absolutly no talent can still participate. College/university courses are completely different ..you cant get in without showing a portfolio ...and it better be good

eatbugs
11-08-2005, 05:50 AM
1. I find that to be wierd :-/.
2. Yeah, I alwalys do that on portraits for reference points.
3. :P

4. Touch decision: Michelangelo, Ingres, possibly Van Gogh.
If Michelangelo is your favourite artist maybe you should try to copy some of his stuff I copied work from all of those painters and I've got so many paintings along with women :P in my pictures file

TheSomeone
13-08-2005, 06:42 PM
http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/3983/16perfumedude9ct.jpg
Images more contrasted than they appear due to crappy scanner.

C & C super-encouraged as always.

eatbugs
16-08-2005, 07:57 AM
From friendship to a kill or be killed realtionship, and Matt Hardy will not die!!

Alright TheSomeone if you're going to call me mentally handicapped then I'll say what I really think about your drawings things that I thought I shouldn't say because you'll eventually figure them out. That was 4 months ago!! you haven't improved a bit since then in fact you've probably gone backwards!!

The free flowing lines..well there are none.:laugh:
The shading is highly average:O
The featues show a complete lack of understanding, I mean look at the lips!!:D :D
Is there depth....nope:naughty:
You have done some things well though like keeping the entire picture an exciting monotone.
If you really want to be an artist start listening to what people are saying instead of critiquing other works yourself because, you don't know what you're on about:D :laugh:

The truth can hurt but denial can be an ugly thing!

Cheers we all had a good laugh at your expense:cheers:

You're not the someone you're the noone!
Now who rules???:D That my former friend is ownage!!!!

TheSomeone
16-08-2005, 08:17 AM
"This message is hidden because eatbugs is on your ignore list."

lol pwnt.

pinoyako
16-08-2005, 08:36 AM
staircase drawing is a little too simple, i like mafia though

TheSomeone
16-08-2005, 08:38 AM
What are you talking about pinoyako :/

Sparta
16-08-2005, 08:46 AM
From friendship to a kill or be killed realtionship, and Matt Hardy will not die!!

Alright TheSomeone if you're going to call me mentally handicapped then I'll say what I really think about your drawings things that I thought I shouldn't say because you'll eventually figure them out. That was 4 months ago!! you haven't improved a bit since then in fact you've probably gone backwards!!

The free flowing lines..well there are none.:laugh:
The shading is highly average:O
The featues show a complete lack of understanding, I mean look at the lips!!:D :D
Is there depth....nope:naughty:
You have done some things well though like keeping the entire picture an exciting monotone.
If you really want to be an artist start listening to what people are saying instead of critiquing other works yourself because, you don't know what you're on about:D :laugh:

The truth can hurt but denial can be an ugly thing!

Cheers we all had a good laugh at your expense:cheers:

You're not the someone you're the noone!
Now who rules???:D That my former friend is ownage!!!!

And yet, he's still much, much better than you.

TheSomeone
16-08-2005, 08:50 AM
And yet, he's still much, much better than you.

Stop it, you're making me cry *tears of joy and humility*.

:D

btw, you guys need to find a way to carry on ignored posts to quotes, because now I read eatbug's post and I'm even more hateful towards him, and hate is not a good thing ;(.

<3<3<3

eatbugs
16-08-2005, 09:56 AM
And yet, he's still much, much better than you.
well that's been subject to public debate but alrighty, sympathy can't hurt. I had hoped that things didn't have to go to that level of posting. Hey I tried to get you moving with your art and if that is the only way to get it done then so be it. Hey you punked me the first time I posted my stuff, take this as overdue payback.

Sparta
16-08-2005, 10:07 AM
Are you talking to me or TheSomeone? And in either case, what overdue payback? A tongue lashing?

eatbugs
16-08-2005, 10:15 AM
I have nothing against anyone on this entire site except TheSomeone so you're right, and more what I like to think of as a wake up call than anything else

I changed my avatar as well, I think it works don't you?

Sparta
16-08-2005, 10:18 AM
Yes actually its a good avatar. Lets get back on topic now though, otherwise this thread will be closed

eatbugs
16-08-2005, 10:22 AM
lol, you know that doesn't concern me,, and we were talking about how hatred is the lifeblood of this site, I mean look at all those bannings that were dished out!

Crushenator 500
16-08-2005, 11:56 AM
No offence, but this speaks for itself tbh, eatbugs...

http://www.halflife2.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=18338&d=1123576050

Shippi
16-08-2005, 01:55 PM
Eatbugs.. when you can draw, you can critique others. I don't know how you've developed such a high opinion of yourself, because there is nothing special about your mediocre 'artwork'.

And eatbugs... when I read this, it really did sound as if you were describing yourself:
If you really want to be an artist start listening to what people are saying instead of critiquing other works yourself because, you don't know what you're on about:D :laugh:

The truth can hurt but denial can be an ugly thing!

Cheers we all had a good laugh at your expense:cheers:

Anyway, let's stop this argument now. I won't close this thead because of eatbug's idiocy, lets get it back on topic

Erestheux
16-08-2005, 05:31 PM
TheSomeone, I think you're on your way, as long as you keep drawing. I suggest not making drawings solely for the purpose of posting on HL2.net or any other art forum, otherwise it will be time-consuming and mostly dissappointing. Just draw and draw and if you want to show some of the better stuff off, post it. But I don't think these forums are really the best for critiques, nor any of the internet. Mostly because everyone is a lot more of a dirty asshole on the internet. I dunno if you already go there, but www.conceptart.org has some great forums, but you won't get much attention unless you have a ridiculously amazing piece.

And I'm sure you don't already, but listening to any of eatbug's posts would be pretty... stupid. I was going to say that a long time ago, but I didn't feel it would do anything besides start a flamewar. I'm glad that guy is finally banned, I hope its for good. If there is one sort of member that I hate on these forums, its an untalented arrogant moron who tries to bring others down because its the internet and no one can beat the shit out of him. ;)

TheSomeone
16-08-2005, 07:54 PM
Hey Erestheux, I actually only bother scanning and putting up less than half of my stuff, so the things I post are the ones I feel have more potential for constructive criticism. For example, I wouldn't post something that has obvious mistakes that I can see, rather something that looks wrong but I can't put my finger on it. :)

And yes, I do have a concept art sketchbook which I update about every 2 days and I've gotten some great criticism, they're extremely friendly over there.

Lookie at my sig :stare:

Erestheux
16-08-2005, 11:07 PM
Hey Erestheux, I actually only bother scanning and putting up less than half of my stuff, so the things I post are the ones I feel have more potential for constructive criticism. For example, I wouldn't post something that has obvious mistakes that I can see, rather something that looks wrong but I can't put my finger on it. :)

And yes, I do have a concept art sketchbook which I update about every 2 days and I've gotten some great criticism, they're extremely friendly over there.

Lookie at my sig :stare:Sorry, I'm just too lazy to read or... look at things. ;) It's good to hear though. :)

Vegeta897
16-08-2005, 11:29 PM
Eatbugs.. when you can draw, you can critique others.This is completely untrue and I disagree wholeheartedly. Are you saying a person who can't draw doesn't know how to point out things that don't look right? Or make suggestions?

However, I am not defending Eatbugs either. He was really a jerk about it.

Crushenator your post made my choke on my soda :laugh:

TheSomeone
17-08-2005, 12:51 AM
This is completely untrue and I disagree wholeheartedly. Are you saying a person who can't draw doesn't know how to point out things that don't look right? Or make suggestions?


I agree with you vegeta, but eatbugs told me the exact same thing. All i've been trying to do by critiquing is helping others, and I've ALWAYS been open to criticism, unlike some. :(

mindless_moder
17-08-2005, 05:58 AM
though it is true that an un trained eye wont be as efficient as the eye of a master ...i think its safe to say that as humans we are capable of discerning significant deformation in shape and form.

chu
17-08-2005, 06:02 AM
To be able to criticize you have to be able to take criticism yourself. eatbugs could not do this.

TheSomeone
20-08-2005, 03:05 AM
Progress report.

http://img384.imageshack.us/img384/5849/17manportrait6mq.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Kamikazie
20-08-2005, 03:31 AM
is that david hasselhoff?
anyways the hair on the right looks a little to dark..
the nose and lips are good

evil^milk
20-08-2005, 03:32 AM
very nice, i like the shape of the mouth and lips. although you have to analyze and identify what's giving the eyes a rather slanted look (taking into account the bottom part of the face, so that the eyes are symmetrical according to the rest of the face)

TheSomeone
20-08-2005, 04:25 AM
Kamikazie: Jim Morrison, but nice try ;) And actually he has black hair, I was just too lazy to color it in on one side.

Evil^milk: Yeah the eyes are effed up, I didn't take enough time with the inital outline. Thanks for the compliment :).

TheSomeone
24-08-2005, 02:46 AM
Shibidibapabadapalapop

http://img399.imageshack.us/img399/6946/18hawke0gs.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Kamikazie
24-08-2005, 02:52 AM
whats the words in the top right...

TheSomeone
24-08-2005, 02:54 AM
whats the words in the top right...

It says "Wouan! Erase smudge"

Kamikazie
24-08-2005, 03:14 AM
really nice...i like the way you made the mustache...
nice one! :thumbs:

i know that im not supposed to give "mommy" words but couldnt really see much wrong

TheSomeone
24-08-2005, 03:25 AM
:), It's still always appreciated. Thanks.

TheSomeone
01-09-2005, 02:01 AM
I purchased two bridgman books, so here are some hands...
http://img108.imageshack.us/img108/5273/24bridgmanhands0hv.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

...and figures!
http://img108.imageshack.us/img108/6475/23bridgmanfigures0vz.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

For art class (I do so much extra homework for that class, most people don't even do the one that's assigned, plus my teacher kicks ass)
http://img118.imageshack.us/img118/6180/22soldier3eq.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Art Class still life (they were fake birds)
http://img123.imageshack.us/img123/2841/21birds3rs.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Trask
01-09-2005, 10:40 AM
They look too "blocky" to me

TheSomeone
02-09-2005, 02:17 AM
They look too "blocky" to me

That's because they are blocking practice. So if you think that, they are succesful. Thanks for the comment.

Kamikazie
02-09-2005, 03:44 AM
gun looks a little wierd imo...like its too short or something

TheSomeone
02-09-2005, 05:31 AM
gun looks a little wierd imo...like its too short or something

You're right :). I trashed that sketch (not literally) and opted for this one:

http://img397.imageshack.us/img397/9640/26potentialpainting2cb.jpg

CptStern
02-09-2005, 05:30 PM
I cant stress this enough ..use models ..if you dont have access to real live models (friends, family etc) google a picture till you find something that helps you (example: drawing hands ..find a photo of a hand) ..I use photos/models for everything I draw ..and I've been drawing for over 30 years. Just remember that you're not copying the phot ..you're just using it for a reference


btw your hands sketch shows improvement ..gj

Trask
03-09-2005, 06:04 AM
That's because they are blocking practice. So if you think that, they are succesful. Thanks for the comment.
block practise for what?

TheSomeone
03-09-2005, 08:31 PM
block practise for what?

Blocking is an important excersise in drawing.
http://d538518.u320.bigcrawler.com/FigureDrawing/68.htm

And thanks sterny for the advice. I will try looking for similar photographs, or take one if I have to :).

TheSomeone
22-09-2005, 11:06 PM
And today, for the first update in god knows how long:

This is what happens when you're bored in math: distorted proportions and makeshift anatomy:
http://img92.imageshack.us/img92/2568/31boredinmath3fy.jpg

Trying to understand faces:
http://img92.imageshack.us/img92/2708/32attemptingheads9sz.jpg

I was surfing the web when I saw a screenshot from the upcoming game DoD:Source. Since I had a pen in hand, I quickly sketched it for reference on german soldier's clothes during WWII:
http://img92.imageshack.us/img92/425/33pensoldier6zn.jpg

If you scroll up a bit, you'll notice I had a sketch of a soldier sleeping that I was planning to paint. Well, I've been painting it for two weeks and I just decided to start over even though I only have a week left until the deadline. I think it was just impossible to make a proper painting from it, it's way too liny and I'm not such a great painter at all. I actually feel good about starting from the drawing board. So here is the sketch for the new painting I'm going to do. This one was quickly done in 10 minutes with a flat graphite pencil:
http://img92.imageshack.us/img92/8679/34potentialpainting25cn.jpg

ktimekiller
23-09-2005, 03:01 AM
very nice.

TheSomeone
23-09-2005, 03:30 AM
Thank you :)

venturon
02-10-2005, 01:15 PM
I think someone needs to update their thread, not to mention their sketchbook

baron insig
02-10-2005, 06:47 PM
venturon piss off.

that is not constructive critiscism
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Fit pencil work i wish i could do whole faces!

i prefer drawing buildings :)

venturon
07-10-2005, 09:05 AM
I was only expressing my interest and reminding him to update, but thanks anyway for being rude Joims. Maybe you should follow your own advice, especially considering that you didn't actually offer any constructive criticism either.

Vegeta897
07-10-2005, 09:24 PM
I'm going to have to agree with Venturon, Joims :|

TheSomeone
20-10-2005, 01:25 AM
I think someone needs to update their thread, not to mention their sketchbook

I know :(, I'm a terrible human being.

venturon piss off.

that is not constructive critiscism
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Fit pencil work i wish i could do whole faces!

i prefer drawing buildings :)

Aww Joims, I appreciate your defense but I really don't need it, I agree with venturon 100%


This is a doodle I did in math today, I will be posting a larger update soon I promise. Just to remind you, I go to an extremely hardcore private school, and we have piles and piles of work every night.

[IMG]http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/8823/35potentialpainting21zc.jpg (http://imageshack.us)[/img

Vegeta897
20-10-2005, 02:34 AM
Awesome! WW2 for the win. :)

Will you be adding to it? Or more WW2 doodles/sketches/whatever?

Only crit, looks like he's holding the Garand a little too close to him.

Que-Ever
20-10-2005, 02:56 AM
I like the yeller paper, goes with the style, I think. Got a "da vinci" thing goin' on.

TheSomeone
20-10-2005, 03:33 AM
Awesome! WW2 for the win. :)

Will you be adding to it? Or more WW2 doodles/sketches/whatever?

Only crit, looks like he's holding the Garand a little too close to him.

Thanks man, :D, I don't really know how soldier usually hold their rifles :P. I don't think I'll keep on drawing it, it was just something to keep me awake in class.

I like the yeller paper, goes with the style, I think. Got a "da vinci" thing goin' on.

:D, it's my folder.

Que-Ever
20-10-2005, 06:42 AM
:D, it's my folder.
Your folder is indeed awesome.

TheSomeone
22-10-2005, 05:01 AM
Two new ones today. No ref for these because I've been too lazy to find any :zzz:. Comments and crits please!

http://img484.imageshack.us/img484/5337/36angel5xp.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img489.imageshack.us/img489/7/37athena7ru.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Shippi
22-10-2005, 11:09 AM
Some awesome stuff :)

Showcased!

TheSomeone
22-10-2005, 08:40 PM
Some awesome stuff :)

Showcased!

Awww, thanks :o ... When I saw "moved" I was wondering where it could have gone :rolleyes: , very pleasantly surprising :D

That motivates me, expect an update as soon as I finish my math. :D

Kamikazie
22-10-2005, 08:45 PM
so..much..detail..cant take it all in...

Shippi
22-10-2005, 10:45 PM
Awww, thanks :o ... When I saw "moved" I was wondering where it could have gone :rolleyes: , very pleasantly surprising :D

That motivates me, expect an update as soon as I finish my math. :D

Yay :) I look forward to seeing it

Derwen_Llewelyn
03-11-2005, 12:53 AM
....wow...

and holy shit!!!

...*aahs* so bright and nice!

TheSomeone
07-11-2005, 01:37 AM
Thank you Derwen :)


Been doing nudes in art class, did some of my own at home (wink nudge). Each woman is done in less than a minute. I'll have more and better ones soon hopefully. (oh yeah, and I keep cutting them off, I need full body ones but they're hard to find)

http://img158.imageshack.us/img158/7725/38nude18dc.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img45.imageshack.us/img45/7235/38nude29ny.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


http://img45.imageshack.us/img45/8135/38nude32ok.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Sparta
07-11-2005, 03:27 AM
Love the first and third ones. You're getting alot better.

Derwen_Llewelyn
07-11-2005, 11:10 AM
TheSomeone....you know i really like your drawings.

The pure simplicity.

Very few people can draw so clean like you.
(and i saw other people's work in this forum..wow those are also great!)

Trust me..its a rare type of talent. :P

TheSomeone
08-11-2005, 02:07 AM
Thank you Derwen, I'm extremely flattered. I remember you from a long time ago in your gallery, I must have posted in it back then. I hadn't even posted any of my art at the time ,I don't think (considering this one got showcased a week ago :P)

What I always dreamed I could draw as a kid ^_^

http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/7664/41cavalier8dy.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


Too many things wrong with this one to count:

http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/5194/42angel2lt.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

EDIT: Yup, I did post in it, page 1 :)

ktimekiller
09-11-2005, 12:35 AM
gladiator looks superb, but the lady looks... i dunno

TheSomeone
09-11-2005, 01:25 AM
gladiator looks superb, but the lady looks... i dunno

Off :P. Nothing about her is right really. Thanks for the comments. :)

Derwen_Llewelyn
09-11-2005, 05:53 PM
Off :P. Nothing about her is right really. Thanks for the comments. :)

Naah...just a tiny thing about the woman..

You should move her mouth to the left a little bit more.

Other than that...its great and looks soo lovely! :P

Qonfused
09-11-2005, 07:48 PM
Drawing faces has to be the one things that most artists aren't very good at just because we can critique then so much. Drawing a face... requires talent. You have that talent.

TheSomeone
12-11-2005, 03:49 AM
:o

What else can I say.

TheSomeone
21-11-2005, 04:44 AM
20 min photoshop.

http://img368.imageshack.us/img368/1397/43hitman0gf.jpg

Derwen_Llewelyn
23-11-2005, 01:32 AM
The simplicity of black and white.

*claps* More please!

TheSomeone
28-11-2005, 03:54 AM
WIP from ref. Any suggestions before I go on?
http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/6845/wip19rg.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Erestheux
28-11-2005, 07:10 AM
WIP from ref. Any suggestions before I go on?
http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/6845/wip19rg.jpg (http://imageshack.us)It needs more depth. And the composition leaves something to be desired. Also, it looks flat--

:laugh:

Kidding. That looks great dude. I envy your determination. That isn't done over a transparent layer of a photo, though, is it? By "ref" you mean you looked at something and not traced it. Right? Her right side of the face could be sharper since it doesn't match the left. And maybe you could define the nostril a little more, although if you're going for that bright-lights look, its fine. Can't really tell yet.

Anyways, keep it up. :thumbs:

TheSomeone
28-11-2005, 04:46 PM
:D

Woah, good spotting about the nostril, I don't know how i totally skipped over that. An no it's not traced, I put them side by side on the same document. Thanks for the post Erestheux :).

Erestheux
28-11-2005, 10:16 PM
An no it's not traced,Good, there's a lot of that in these forums...

TheSomeone
01-12-2005, 02:17 AM
Really? Who?

Finished (for now):
http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/1764/44flowergirl6dc.jpg

Glirk Dient
01-12-2005, 02:28 AM
Wow very nice. I wish I had some artistic talent to do something cool like that. I can't even do stick figures correctly.

TheSomeone
13-12-2005, 04:05 AM
Wow very nice. I wish I had some artistic talent to do something cool like that. I can't even do stick figures correctly.

:)

Two drawings both doodled in class.

http://img370.imageshack.us/img370/6439/45arnolphe1cf.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/7054/46arnolphe7mr.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Puzzlemaker
24-12-2005, 02:01 AM
Did you doodle that second one on the back of your assignment?

And now I want to learn how to draw... I probobly should...

Puzzlemaker
24-12-2005, 02:02 AM
Did you doodle that second one on the back of your assignment?

And now I want to learn how to draw... I probobly should...

Edit: Oops, computer borked on me, accidently posted twice.