View Full Version : Gordon Freeman main character in Aftermath?
wilka91
16-04-2005, 01:50 AM
Here is a shot from that, the continuation of Gordon Freeman’s adventures that we'll be releasing as an episode later this summer.
I think that's pretty significant. :bounce:
TheSomeone
16-04-2005, 01:55 AM
Yeah. I say booo.
From the screenshot he's still in the citadel too apparently.Maybe you have to help Alyx escape with you. Hmmm...
DigiQ8
16-04-2005, 01:58 AM
but ... the explosion ?!
how he's still in the citadel ?
GonzoBabbleshit
16-04-2005, 01:58 AM
excellent news! :D
MarcoPollo
16-04-2005, 02:00 AM
well seeing as it has been out for a while that you are gordon in aftermath....NO
Mechagodzilla
16-04-2005, 02:00 AM
Well, that settles that.
Not that it was really a mystery though, since who else was at the top of the citadel with a strong relationship to alyx? :p
Edcrab
16-04-2005, 02:02 AM
No, it was never a mystery, it's just that fantasists like myself kept clinging to the hope that the ending wouldn't be screwed up.
That said, it is Valve's game (in case no one noticed), and I guess it's a safe bet that they'll find a way to shape the story without knackering their own dramatic conclusion.
MarcoPollo
16-04-2005, 02:04 AM
Maybe Gman wont let him out, He will accidentily get out.
wilka91
16-04-2005, 02:08 AM
Maybe Gman wont let him out, He will accidentily get out.
no spoilers :dork: lol
riomhaire
16-04-2005, 02:08 AM
If it's Gordon I'll sue Valve. I won't believe it's Gordon unless Valve confirm it.
MarcoPollo
16-04-2005, 02:10 AM
^^ they did sry start your killing!
UndeadScottsman
16-04-2005, 02:11 AM
Uhh, they did confirm it. link on Steampowered.com (http://www.steampowered.com/Steam/Marketing/April15.2005/?l=english)
We also promised a sneak peek into work on Half-Life 2: Aftermath. Here is a shot from that, the continuation of Gordon Freeman’s adventures that we'll be releasing as an episode later this summer.
wilka91
16-04-2005, 02:12 AM
If it's Gordon I'll sue Valve. I won't believe it's Gordon unless Valve confirm it.
dude that news was posted by Valve!
MarcoPollo
16-04-2005, 02:13 AM
Maybe if we dont tell him he wont notice
GonzoBabbleshit
16-04-2005, 02:14 AM
If it's Gordon I'll sue Valve. I won't believe it's Gordon unless Valve confirm it.
why wouldn't you want it to be Gordon!?
Edcrab
16-04-2005, 02:17 AM
I'd say it's pretty obvious why some people don't want to be Gordon- they're at a loss to explain exactly why HL2 ended like it did if Gordon is just going to be thrown back into the action at the drop of a hat. I bet Valve can do it though...
And yes, unless Valve suddenly rewrite their storyline Gordon will be the player's character in Aftermath. It's pretty obvious they've made this announcement to cater to the disbelievers like myself, so I'll shut up now.
MarcoPollo
16-04-2005, 02:17 AM
because gordon is mute! who likes cripple people (joking, no offense cripples people)
pomegranate
16-04-2005, 02:30 AM
Gman: Ah, ahem, I know this might seem a little...contradictory, Mr Freeman, but in actual fact myself and your... employers have determined that you will continue your.. mission from where I... interupted.
Gordon: confused expression = what?! why?!
Gman: You see, your employers have decided to arbitrarily continue the game from where it left off, breaking the logic of the story. Very... impressive, I'm sure you'll agree
Gordon: outraged expression = whaddya mean it's a game?!
Everybody else: GO VALVE!! NICE WORK WITH THE IMMERSION!!
UndeadScottsman
16-04-2005, 02:33 AM
I fail to see how it's contradictory to the storyline. The Gman had to save Gordon from the reactor explosion otherwise he would have died and no more Gordon. He could have just replanted gordon whereever he wanted right away but instead he decides to taunt Gordon first, once again demonstrating his control.
Edcrab
16-04-2005, 02:37 AM
HL2- Gman: I trust it will all make sense for you in the course of- well, I'm not at liberty to say.
HL2:AM- Gman: Now, in fact. Because the game demanded an expansion. So I was just being all dramatic and sensationalist for no good reason. Sorry.
:P
EDIT: Come to think of it, he mentions offers made for Gordon's services (ones that he normally wouldn't consider in less exceptional circumstances), so perhaps the twist is that the new "employer" wants Gordon to start work on what's left of the Citadel. Or something.
special-ed
16-04-2005, 02:43 AM
Omfg I Can't Wait For Freaken' Aftermath!!!
wilka91
16-04-2005, 03:29 AM
Can't wait!
This thread's getting funny
Lincoln
16-04-2005, 03:34 AM
Well, here's more proof for you. My friend went to Valve today, and went on a tour lead by Gabe Newell. During the tour Gabe discussed part of Aftermath, and specificallly said that you play as Gordon. Hopefully I'll be able to post my friends entire email later, complete with additional information about the Lost Coast and Team Fortress 2.
SFLUFAN
16-04-2005, 03:35 AM
^^^
Eh?
Megalomaniac
16-04-2005, 03:50 AM
It didn't say you are playing as Gordon, it says continuing his adventure...like if you finish someone elses work...but i want it to be Gordon im just throwing it out there.
pomegranate
16-04-2005, 03:59 AM
I read the PC Gamer (UK) article yesterday. I forget exactly what it said, but it's definitely Gordon...
Megalomaniac
16-04-2005, 04:03 AM
I Want A Quote That Says It So I Can Believe It!!!
Lincoln
16-04-2005, 04:03 AM
^^^
Eh?
I'll post it later. Right now he's writing it up as a newspost style thingy.
BRODIEMAN2k4
16-04-2005, 05:41 AM
This isnt going to stop the "character speculation" threads
Samon
16-04-2005, 10:09 AM
Its Gordon. Just get over it :|
J_Tweedy
16-04-2005, 10:15 AM
I cant really tell how this is going to end in a conclusion of 3 main chapters. So he saves the world from the Combine, so what? He saved the world from Xen, that didnt help, i hope there are more than 3- a fool's hope probably
AIDisabled
16-04-2005, 02:02 PM
Hey, I'd rather play Gordon than Adrian Sheperd. Case closed. :)
Jintor
17-04-2005, 04:21 AM
Dammit, i've formed a useless opinion and i'm sticking to it: Valve won't pwn themselves.
Puzzlemaker
17-04-2005, 04:56 AM
Its like pandoras box. You open it up, and there is no putting it back.
He opened up the way to new dimensions.
Now humanity has to live with it somehow.
T.H.C.138
17-04-2005, 05:08 AM
I know this thread is about Aftermath,but it got me thinking...
the other offers...hmmmm
the dude in the lighthouse with the Gman..maybe the lost coast is one of those other offers in a playable form?
probably not,but hey the lighthouse scene IS on the coast..
Wraithen
20-04-2005, 07:28 PM
and if it all works out, maybe we can finally pay to see the ending of Halo 2.
The only thing I have against AM is that it feels too much like something they snipped off the end of Half Life 2 as an attempt to justify Steam by providing this "quick" expansion pack. Otherwise, bring it on. so to speak.
mime genocide
21-04-2005, 10:28 PM
they could be trying to fool you in to thinking that its gordon when its not really him. when they made metal gear solid 2 they didn't tell anybody about the new charicter till the game shipped. they even redid all the cut senes for snake. but its most likly gordon because the flashlight recharge thing in the sewers
MiccyNarc
22-04-2005, 02:31 AM
I refuse to believe that it is Gordon until I sit down in front of my computer on the day of Aftermath's release and Alyx calls me "Gordon". Until then I pray that Valve has some common sense to not completely screw up their plot.
Those who don't see how it would screw up the plot, go play the last mission of HL2 and watch the end cinematic. Then tell me it makes sense for Gordon to be dropped right back to where he was.
I swear you'll be playing mossman -_-
Besides, it'd be way too easy, you'd start off with the uber grav gun for t3h win. :rolleyes:
Jintor
22-04-2005, 03:37 AM
Same as above.
wilka91
22-04-2005, 03:45 AM
It will be Gordon, whether you like it or not!
special-ed
22-04-2005, 03:45 AM
Well it is suppost to be a logical continuation of that ending.. however the hell valve will manage that..
UndeadScottsman
22-04-2005, 03:57 AM
I refuse to believe that it is Gordon until I sit down in front of my computer on the day of Aftermath's release and Alyx calls me "Gordon". Until then I pray that Valve has some common sense to not completely screw up their plot.
Those who don't see how it would screw up the plot, go play the last mission of HL2 and watch the end cinematic. Then tell me it makes sense for Gordon to be dropped right back to where he was.
It makes perfect sense. Gman had to save Gordon anyway, and so he decided to mess with his pawn's head and reassert his control before putting him back into the world.
Feath
22-04-2005, 11:52 AM
I refuse to believe that it is Gordon until I sit down in front of my computer on the day of Aftermath's release and Alyx calls me "Gordon". Until then I pray that Valve has some common sense to not completely screw up their plot.
Those who don't see how it would screw up the plot, go play the last mission of HL2 and watch the end cinematic. Then tell me it makes sense for Gordon to be dropped right back to where he was.
I swear you'll be playing mossman -_-
Besides, it'd be way too easy, you'd start off with the uber grav gun for t3h win. :rolleyes:
Suprisingly enough, I think Valve is well aware of their plot. They aren't going to suddenly think "Oh Gordon Bennet, we've forgotten the end of Half-Life 2! It doesn't make sense now. How could we not realise what many people in the world took two seconds to realise?!?"
There are definately different lines the plot can go down? Who's to say that the G-man's control over you is absolute? Maybe the need to rescue Alyx will make Gordon escape the G-man's chains and go to try to rescue Alyx. Maybe someone else will hire Gordon. Maybe the Combine would've hired him straight after. Maybe Gordon will go in statis for ages but then go back to the end of Half-Life 2 when he's awaken.
You can't just decide that being Gordon doesn't make any sense. Valve are not idiots.
AND, people wanting a quote from PC Gamer that you play Gordon: http://www.halflife2.net/forums/showpost.php?p=1340866&postcount=53
That guy works for PC Gamer UK. They didn't put any quotes in their article for the same reason that you didn't happen to read "The new Pope, Benedict XVI, is a catholic". It's not really headline worthy news.
hi_ted
22-04-2005, 06:21 PM
This discussion makes me think back to when we were having discussions about the end of Half Life 2. GMan seemed to concentrate on the word 'time' strangely enough. Will this be part of the puzzle?
Crash Happy
22-04-2005, 07:32 PM
It's certainly true Meglomaniac that if, for instance, someone got halfway through writing a novel before you came along and completed it for them it could be said that you were completing their work. I think it's fair to say though that since an adventure that you may experience is entirely personal and therefore cannot be completed by anyone other than you. I think that means it's Gordon in Aftermath. IMHO IIRC etc etc.
Captain M4d
22-04-2005, 07:33 PM
Some of you guys just can't be satisfied. It's sad. Greedy basturds.
Beppe
25-04-2005, 09:25 AM
Will we ever see Adrian Shephard again?
AIDisabled
25-04-2005, 09:42 AM
...basturds.
I don't normally comment on typos, but the word "basturds" is doubly funny. Not because of its mispelling, but because it means both bastard and turd.
Ah, but I guess that's what you intended, right? :)
Captain M4d
25-04-2005, 07:00 PM
I don't normally comment on typos, but the word "basturds" is doubly funny. Not because of its mispelling, but because it means both bastard and turd.
Ah, but I guess that's what you intended, right? :)
But of course. :cheers:
inferno-prime
26-04-2005, 09:57 PM
is hl2 aftermath going to be free for download or am i going to have to buy it
You're going to have to buy it................................................................................................................................ .............................................................................................................................
Lost Coast is free to download however.
AIDisabled
27-04-2005, 01:44 PM
But you'll still have to download it, I suppose. No CDs this time. Or am I wrong?
Rennmniscant
29-04-2005, 03:34 PM
Maybe the combine still stand even though their energy generator has been screwed.
Maybe Gordon does break the Gman's rules and comes back for Alyx. They could maybe work the plot a bit to move back time a bit to save Alyx from the blast?
A little birdy told me that you'd play Alyx for a while...
AIDisabled
29-04-2005, 05:23 PM
A bit like playing Mona Sax in max Payne 2, eh?
Rennmniscant
30-04-2005, 04:10 AM
Too true...
Maybe the G-man gives Gordon the portal trick again, like the end of HL1. He may help Alyx, or just wait until HL3 comes out
aztecsaxwarrior
30-04-2005, 06:38 AM
Definetely think that G-man will take his little teleporter in his briefcase and when the series ends, he will send Gordon back before the portal storms to save his child (you can see the little guy in Gordon's locker in Half LIfe 1). Like how he trapped him in a slow time warp, he will probably use it to send him back. The ultimate Oprah, sniff. Man I need to watch more Chappelle's show. Oh and, I got word that there is already a Half Life 3 plot forming with a secured cliffhanger ending. Although that may be rumor at this point.
Gman-Mr. Freeman, It appears your services are asked for once again. The terms of your service are of courssse, left to my discretion, although, I could simply refuse these offers in exchange for continuing your present course of employment. Now...I may consssider these, although the conditions may be more brutal than anything you may have experienced thusss far, but I require a further compreheeension of your most fatal flaw..your compassion for those less fortunate. However, we-by which I mean to say I-will attempt to regard this iiidiosyncracy as a, how to say, a trait to be purged from your system. I believe that if you are to witness the aftermath of your actions you will realize that to rely on emotion so much is pure folly, and if I feel at any time that you fail to recognize this...well let's us not part with harsh words. Although that may not be applicable in your predicament. My apologies, let us meet again as...colleagues.....
Gordon nods in assent and reappears beside Alyx.
lonestar
30-04-2005, 03:05 PM
Oh and, I got word that there is already a Half Life 3 plot forming with a secured cliffhanger ending. Although that may be rumor at this point.
i think the plot for hl3 was already completed a long time ago. laidlaw got several years to do so. maybe it will still be polished a bit, but the main work should be done, imo.
Samon
30-04-2005, 05:17 PM
is hl2 aftermath going to be free for download or am i going to have to buy it
Whose avatar have you nicked.... :sleep:
valve have said you play as gordon. they have not, however, ruled out you'll be playing as someone else as well. time will tell
gabriel
03-05-2005, 07:49 AM
yeah. maybe youll play as alyx first or something, then later play as gordon when appropriate. but my guess is that youre just gordon the whole time. either way, you know valve will make it work.
AIDisabled
03-05-2005, 08:55 AM
I'm gonna get bonked on the head: what do you think about playing as GMan for a level?
wouldn't like it. g-man is the ultimate npc. he is unplayable. the sheer mystery of the "man" would kill you if you touched the keyboard.
its sorta like the playing as alyx situation. i "know" alyx, therefore i dont want to play as her. this is half-life.
Jintor
03-05-2005, 10:29 AM
/me bonks AIDisabled on the head
jverne
03-05-2005, 02:39 PM
For crist sakes does nobody read the weekly steam news!!!!
Of course it will be gordon they've already confirmed!!!
I'd rather have shepard but anyway...
Pai-Mei
03-05-2005, 04:50 PM
You guys know me, I'm always logical. I'd actually like to play as Gordon more than anyone else, but I am not entirely convinced, yet, that you play as Gordon Freeman.
Please, allow me to explain my point. If you disagree or can offer counter evidence, go for it.
First of all, all of those "I HAVE A FRIEND WHO WORKS AT PC GAMER HE WENT TO VALVE ITS GORDON FREEMAN!!!!!!!!!!1111111111111" ...'quotes' are useless to me. Give me something from Laidlaw's mouth or a press release or at least a reliable quote from a real PC Gamer employee.
Let us examine the "PROOF."
http://www.steampowered.com/Steam/Marketing/April15.2005/?l=english
If you wish to analyze everything as scrutinous as you are, we should also critically analyze the screenshot. And the first time I saw this, I hadn't heard ANYTHING about HL2AM. And my first reaction was "Oh. You don't play as Gordon." You know why i thought that? Because the screenshot character is standing right next to a Combine soldier and the soldier is not shooting him. Either the overwatch soldiers and Stalkers become allies as a result of the explosion, or you play as a combine soldier... which playing as the "opposing force" would not be anything new. Then again, perhaps the G-Man leases Gordon out to the Combine and that's why you appear to be on their side.
Perhaps it is just a "sloppy" screenshot without the AI enabled in which case "continuation of Gordon Freeman’s adventures" might just be a sloppy quote where they are only really meaning to say that you're continuing Half-Life, which is always just the story of Gordon Freeman from one point or another.
Let us notice that it says that we will be continuing Gordon Freeman's Adventure... not necessarilly as Gordon Freeman. Let us also realize that all of the HL exapnsion packs did not pick up where HL left off. One started before it and the other started well into it.
I theorize that this expansion pack starts at least a little bit before the Dark reactor explosion and that you play as an Overwatch Elite of somesort. This would explain why the citadel is intact, why the Combine guard isn't shooting at you, and how you are still a part of Gordon Freeman's adventures. You probably run into the Teleporter Room right as he and Alyx are teleporting away from Nova Prospekt or some other way to allow you to see Gordon Freeman and be "part of his adventure" without him slaughtering you or vice/versa. Perhaps "aftermath" refers to the Aftermath of that teleporter explosion, the repurcussions of which "were felt far and wide" according to Dr. Kleiner.
Just speculation. If you care to comment, please do so constructively.
Samon
03-05-2005, 04:55 PM
I'm gonna get bonked on the head: what do you think about playing as GMan for a level?
I think thats an awful idea.
GonzoBabbleshit
03-05-2005, 05:33 PM
Because the screenshot character is standing right next to a Combine soldier and the soldier is not shooting him.
There's no HUD on that shot either. There's no weapon or hands there either. It's not an 'in-game' or 'live in-game' shot
And if you were playing as Combine, it wouldn't be 'continuing Gordon Freeman's adventures' in any way, shape or form.
I think you're reading far too much into a quote and trying to pick something out. We'll play as Gordon, simple as.
Feath
03-05-2005, 06:56 PM
You guys know me, I'm always logical. I'd actually like to play as Gordon more than anyone else, but I am not entirely convinced, yet, that you play as Gordon Freeman.
Please, allow me to explain my point. If you disagree or can offer counter evidence, go for it.
First of all, all of those "I HAVE A FRIEND WHO WORKS AT PC GAMER HE WENT TO VALVE ITS GORDON FREEMAN!!!!!!!!!!1111111111111" ...'quotes' are useless to me. Give me something from Laidlaw's mouth or a press release or at least a reliable quote from a real PC Gamer employee.
Let us examine the "PROOF."
http://www.steampowered.com/Steam/Marketing/April15.2005/?l=english
If you wish to analyze everything as scrutinous as you are, we should also critically analyze the screenshot. And the first time I saw this, I hadn't heard ANYTHING about HL2AM. And my first reaction was "Oh. You don't play as Gordon." You know why i thought that? Because the screenshot character is standing right next to a Combine soldier and the soldier is not shooting him. Either the overwatch soldiers and Stalkers become allies as a result of the explosion, or you play as a combine soldier... which playing as the "opposing force" would not be anything new. Then again, perhaps the G-Man leases Gordon out to the Combine and that's why you appear to be on their side.
Perhaps it is just a "sloppy" screenshot without the AI enabled in which case "continuation of Gordon Freeman’s adventures" might just be a sloppy quote where they are only really meaning to say that you're continuing Half-Life, which is always just the story of Gordon Freeman from one point or another.
Let us notice that it says that we will be continuing Gordon Freeman's Adventure... not necessarilly as Gordon Freeman. Let us also realize that all of the HL exapnsion packs did not pick up where HL left off. One started before it and the other started well into it.
I theorize that this expansion pack starts at least a little bit before the Dark reactor explosion and that you play as an Overwatch Elite of somesort. This would explain why the citadel is intact, why the Combine guard isn't shooting at you, and how you are still a part of Gordon Freeman's adventures. You probably run into the Teleporter Room right as he and Alyx are teleporting away from Nova Prospekt or some other way to allow you to see Gordon Freeman and be "part of his adventure" without him slaughtering you or vice/versa. Perhaps "aftermath" refers to the Aftermath of that teleporter explosion, the repurcussions of which "were felt far and wide" according to Dr. Kleiner.
Just speculation. If you care to comment, please do so constructively.
Reliable quote: http://www.halflife2.net/forums/showpost.php?p=1340866&postcount=53
And he's pretty much been confirmed as being an employee of PC Gamer UK.
I have nothing really to say about the screenshot other than it doesn't even look like it's from the prespective of the player. You are looking for evidence to support your conclusion, instead of drawing a conclusion from the evidence.
valve have said that we will play as gordon.
they would not make the mistake of lying to the public again...
i would be very surprised if we didnt play as gordon, for some or all of AM
tss it would be like hl3 if we played as gordon, i hope its adrian or whoever but not gordon.
Pai-Mei
07-05-2005, 06:36 PM
valve have said that we will play as gordon.
Again, they really haven't to the public. They said we will be "continuing Gordon's adventures."
There's no HUD on that shot either. There's no weapon or hands there either. It's not an 'in-game' or 'live in-game' shot
True enough.... unless the character we play as doesnt have an HUD yet, at this point in the game. Heh... maybe you play as a Stalker. Just kidding, good point.
You are looking for evidence to support your conclusion, instead of drawing a conclusion from the evidence.
Honestly, before I saw the screenshot, I had no impression or conclusion about Aftermath at all. I saw the citadel, alive and well, and I saw a combine not shooting me. I figured we would play as a combine this time around, some time before Gordon destroyed the reactor (which I thought destroyed the Citadel).
Reliable quote: http://www.halflife2.net/forums/sho...66&postcount=53
And he's pretty much been confirmed as being an employee of PC Gamer UK.
Uh huh. And even if he is telling the truth, that is a 3rd hand quote. Its a quote of a guy who talked to a guy who talked to a guy at Valve.
I'm not saying I disagree with you all... I do agree... mainly because the other Aftermath screenshots show an HEV suit HUD, not because some random poster said he new a guy who knew a guy whos former roomate's uncle works for valve.
FRESCO_SUPREME
07-05-2005, 07:03 PM
i wont be taking it for granted that we'll b playing as gordan until valve confirm it either, which they very much havent.
where can i find aftermath screenshots ?
Feath
07-05-2005, 08:05 PM
Uh huh. And even if he is telling the truth, that is a 3rd hand quote. Its a quote of a guy who talked to a guy who talked to a guy at Valve.
I'm not saying I disagree with you all... I do agree... mainly because the other Aftermath screenshots show an HEV suit HUD, not because some random poster said he new a guy who knew a guy whos former roomate's uncle works for valve.
Why would he lie? That "random poster" has been confirmed as working for PC Gamer UK. And the PC Gamer UK article has numerous references to Gordon Freeman.
Feath
07-05-2005, 08:06 PM
i wont be taking it for granted that we'll b playing as gordan until valve confirm it either, which they very much havent.
And the Vatican hasn't confirmed that the new Pope is Catholic, either. But that's no reason to doubt that he is.
what a bad comparism , the pope has to be catholic cos the pope is the head of the catholics :/
Feath
08-05-2005, 02:53 AM
what a bad comparism , the pope has to be catholic cos the pope is the head of the catholics :/
You miss the point. The point is that noone has specifically said that the new Pope is Catholic. That doesn't mean that you should doubt that he is Catholic.
pomegranate
08-05-2005, 03:00 AM
Wouldn't they have used those exact words on the news? "Bob Ratzinger is the new pope" ?
I get your point tho.
No, I don't remember his name...
Marx! II
08-05-2005, 03:11 AM
If I may jump in on what Pai-Mei said, I think the reason for the stalker not attacking the soldier explains itself.
Firstly, the armaments of either side.
Soldier: Gun
Stalker: Lack of appendages
Now the brainwash factor, if the combine can pull out organs and run a fellow off saline solution, they can screw with his mind to the point of making him not attack soldiers with what force he could muster. Maybe, weld on them or something.
Jintor
08-05-2005, 11:25 AM
Skipping from the first page to this page looks more like you've changed threads, honestly.
I'm still against Gordon being the hero of aftermath... I really hope Valve dosn't pwn itself.
Samon
08-05-2005, 11:51 AM
Skipping from the first page to this page looks more like you've changed threads, honestly.
I'm still against Gordon being the hero of aftermath... I really hope Valve dosn't pwn itself.
It's Gordon and you know it ;)
Don't worry, they will think of something as to it making sense.
Feath
09-05-2005, 03:18 PM
such a bullshit ..
I beg your pardon?
Pai-Mei
09-05-2005, 08:16 PM
If I may jump in on what Pai-Mei said, I think the reason for the stalker not attacking the soldier explains itself.
Firstly, the armaments of either side.
Soldier: Gun
Stalker: Lack of appendages
Now the brainwash factor, if the combine can pull out organs and run a fellow off saline solution, they can screw with his mind to the point of making him not attack soldiers with what force he could muster. Maybe, weld on them or something.
What the? Did you even read my post?
I'm not complaining that the Stalker isn't attacking the soldier (we've seen Stalkers and soldiers together before), I'm complaining that the soldier isn't attacking the player whose perspective this screenshot is from.
And the Vatican hasn't confirmed that the new Pope is Catholic, either. But that's no reason to doubt that he is.
How is that any argument for your point at all? Basically you are saying that we are playing as Gordon Freeman "because its just so bloody obvious."
Well you know what? In ALL of the expansion packs released for the original Half-Life, none of them had us playing as Gordon Freeman!! If anything, the trend would indicate that we will not play as Gordon Freeman.
That "random poster" has been confirmed as working for PC Gamer UK. And the PC Gamer UK article has numerous references to Gordon Freeman.
How has he been confirmed as working for PC Gamer? And quote some of that PC Gamer UK article rather than just point and say "I'm sure its in there somewhere."
Now look. The fact of the matter is, I wholeheartedly believe that HL:AM will have Gordon Freeman as the main character. I just do. But my point is that you have not shown me proof for it, so stop citing it as such. You may beleive it because of rumors and because the HL:AM screenshots show Gordon's HUD (could just mean they havent updated the HUD yet), but you don't have proof.
Feath
09-05-2005, 09:14 PM
How is that any argument for your point at all? Basically you are saying that we are playing as Gordon Freeman "because its just so bloody obvious."
Well you know what? In ALL of the expansion packs released for the original Half-Life, none of them had us playing as Gordon Freeman!! If anything, the trend would indicate that we will not play as Gordon Freeman.
What I'm saying is that it's pointless to go "Oh, I'm not going to believe it's Gordon until Valve say so" because they're proabably never going to say it before the next preview of the game. Valve haven't said a lot of things, that doesn't mean it's false. Everytime anything happens about 20 people go "I'm not going to believe it until Valve say so.",
How has he been confirmed as working for PC Gamer? And quote some of that PC Gamer UK article rather than just point and say "I'm sure its in there somewhere."
Well, The Funker has also mentioned some other things, and the staff members haven't once deleted his posts or say that he's lying. And he e-mailed an high res version of a PC Gamer UK cover to Chris_D recently, I believe.
Despite the fact that I didn't just say "I'm sure it's all in there somewhere". and I s, here are two quotes from PC Gamer:
"With the Citadel erupting, even the Metrocops are going to need to reach safety. Could this be a chance for Gordon to co-operate with the soldiers..."
"As the Citadel erupts, Gordon and Alyx will need to find some..."
Now look. The fact of the matter is, I wholeheartedly believe that HL:AM will have Gordon Freeman as the main character. I just do. But my point is that you have not shown me proof for it, so stop citing it as such. You may beleive it because of rumors and because the HL:AM screenshots show Gordon's HUD (could just mean they havent updated the HUD yet), but you don't have proof.
Obviously I don't have absolute proof, because it's difficult to prove given the information we have. Likewise there is no proof. But the evidence for playing Gordon far outweighs the evidence for not being Gordon (which is basically, that a Combine soldier isn't firing at the player in one screenshot)
Jintor
10-05-2005, 09:08 AM
Well, I'll just fall back on my fail-safe plan and claim Valve is lying to us.
Either that or they'll make some sort of coherent thingy time-space contininininium that means Gordon can come back.
Xen RoughKnight
10-05-2005, 02:57 PM
Hmm...cool....
I think Valve will definitely figure out SOMETHING to make the story *make sense*. Maybe it'll be some sort of rescue mission ? I dunno...I'm not good at making guesses...
I'm thinking about the ending of HL2...Gordon(me) blast the Dark Reactor one last time with the energy ball...the whole "hole in the sky" thingy dissappears...Alyx said something to congratulate Gordon...then the reactor suddenly goes critical...shaking the platform that Gordon is standing on...Alyx told Gordon to escape...or something like that...and then the reactor exploded...slowly...very slowly....and then everything froze...and Gordon can see the explosion's gas thingy...and then...his pal(not) 's voice appears..."Time...is it that time again...?" something like that....and he walks out from the explosion !! (Freaky...don't you think ?) Talks a lot of crap...and then becoming something blur and then expands and stuff....(blah blah blah)...
ok....from all that....I can see that Gordon is saved...from the explosion...and Alyx is in no way safe....so what can happen ? Is After Math going to continue from there ? Possibly not...since every expansion starts off some where else....where it makes no sense at all at first...but as you play, you know what happend and stuff....But...maybe After Math is different ? Maybe it continues Gordon's adventure from HL2...maybe Gordon argues with G-Man...to save Alyx...or...judging by the name....AFTER MATH....maybe it continues after all that crap....maybe years later ? and Alyx could be dead by then(duh)....or maye not....it's a wild guess....but here goes....G-Man's time stopping device somehow malfunctioned...maybe becaused of all that energy that's still in the air...the result of opening a portal to another dimension....and Alyx somehow got zapped by the energy and the time around her moved and she escaped in time ?
it's all a mystery...
and I have no idea why I just wrote all that crap....knock me in the head if you all got dizzy from reading all that crap.....
Xen RoughKnight
10-05-2005, 04:41 PM
ahaha....thx...
Fliko
24-05-2005, 04:17 AM
RoughKnight, perhaps it will be like that, but without the Gman sequence, to create a "smooth" start IMO.
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