What would new weapons would you like to see in Aftermath?

[Harryz]

What new weapons would you like to see in Aftermath? I personally want to see the gauss gun. I had loads of fun with it in Half-Life, especially multi-player. Its a good way to get around.



p.s This isn't an excuse to get the second thread in this forum.:p

Edit - Can a mod edit the title please. =/

[D.L]

i would like to see a harpoon gun or some form of live ammo...
oooh a bullsquid gun

[Rafa 5.0]

i think we'll get the psygun.... it hinted at that in the PCGamer article

[FoB_Ed]

Snarks!

[Jandor]

No bullsquid gun, that's silly.

Manhack Grenades (The same as the Metrocop ones)
Sniper Rifle (The combine one)
Snarks (Like the ones from HL)
Guass Gun (Like the one on the buggy)

I think thats it, I dont want to see the OICW.

[specialmax]

How bout the alyx gun lol?!

[D.L]

No bullsquid gun, that's silly.

i know i get over excited when i don't take my pills,
but seriously as i said b4 somesort of live ammunition gun, that maybe you find in an experiment lab on the way out of the citadel, or a remote control weapon like the rpg but with more control.

[riomhaire]

Is it confirmed officaly that you are Gordon. I hope not.
If not you look up at the citadel exploding and you see a black dot rushing towards you and it hits Cubbage in the head. Voila grav gun.

Besides that an unmounted Combine machinegun and a gauss gun.

[MarcoPollo]

How bout the alyx gun lol?!


Not so lol it actually is possible we will get to use a suped up machine pistol!

[short recoil]

An electro thermal (plasma) anti material auto loading rifle.
.50 calibre explosive shells, decent scope (thermal, night vision or something)

Or a Needle rifle.

[Rafa 5.0]

night vision would own... since it is getting dark by the time you blow up the citadel..

[Fliko]

Nah it isn't confirmed

I would like to, see, a gun, that has a huge explosive, or the gun is really huge..... don't ask, I wonder.

[MarcoPollo]

Rail gun anyone?

[short recoil]

Rail gun anyone?
Kinda the thing in my idea, i think rail gun is a bit cliche now.....and they arn't very effective even in theory.

A gun that uses electro thermal plasma to propel the slug would be much cooler, and unique.

[riomhaire]

Alyx's hacker tool.

[Rafa 5.0]

that tool that the Hunter Chopper has, the plasma thing... don't know what is called

[Jandor]

The same one thats on the Airboat, that would be cool. but a bit overpowered.

[Rafa 5.0]

I think it would be hard to control, cuz it looks like it has quite a bit of recoil

[michaelsil1]

I would like to see the crossbow have an exploding arrow that sends guts and gore flying everywhere.

[MarcoPollo]

Kinda the thing in my idea, i think rail gun is a bit cliche now.....and they arn't very effective even in theory.

A gun that uses electro thermal plasma to propel the slug would be much cooler, and unique.


They have real rail guns that work. There are some that they are testing that can put a 30 ft Diameter hole in an aircraft carrier!
But i like ur idea its like a cooler railgun.

[Op For Guy]

I would LOVE to be able to use the Alyxgun

YA HA HA FULL AUTO!! :sniper:

[Computer5k]

A brickbat :P
Not sure what it is, but theres a weapon ent for it in HL2DM :D

[Jandor]

did Stunstick and Slam ever go into HL2DM? I dont play it.

[Computer5k]

Yea, they're in. but the SLAM is only on steamlab, and custom maps.

[CMEast]

I think they should have something to fill the rocket launcher niche ala Quake and UT. So far there is no (relatively) slow medium damage weapon with a blast radius except for using the grav/gren combo.

There is also no beam weapon i.e. gluon/link gun.

They'll probably put a sniper rifle in too but I really wish they wouldn't, don't forget these weapons will end up online and sniper rifles are always bad for gameplay.

I would personally like to see the manhacks become the new snark although rather than drop them in front of you it would be better if you could throw them so they deploy in midair.

Another movement tool would be nice too. If not the long jump module/tau (which I'm sure people will be clamouring for) then maybe some form of grappling hook... or a hoverboard! :D

Speaking of which, I reckon there will be more vehicles. Do you reckon they might try for a flyer of some sort? Would be interesting but I think it will most likely be a ground based vehicle.

[hellboy900]

Yes who wouldn't like to see new weapons i know i want to see some new kickass weapons and some more fun stuff.....like being able to use the combine terminals.

[Nephtis]

The hand weapon you get off the Alien Grunts in the first game which shoots little bees at people. That would look cool source style.

[MarcoPollo]

yeh but that gun sucked.

[Nephtis]

No it didn't it could shoot around corners.
Also the Opfor sniper rifle, I love that bloodspray!

[Illusion]

Mines / Proximity Bombs.

[Laivasse]

A large fish to slap people with.

[avraell]

Hmm, it's strange that no one thought of this, so I made an account just for this thread. So, my weapon idea: A 3 barrel grenade launcher, because one of the most effective weapons is throwing down a grenade, picking it up with the grav gun and tossing it somebody for an air burst with a large radius. Also there are lots of grenades around. This gun would allow you to set two ranges for airbust, for primary and secondary fire. Should get it in the end to use against quick enemies, which lacked in half life 2.

[special-ed]

How about a crowbar....!!!!?? I mean what kind of fps uses a crowbar?

[oldagerocker]

I'd like to see the Super Grav Gun... best damn thing ever :)
and Avraell....
Welcome to the forums!! :thumbs:

[Latin_Jones]

Blowtorch anyone?

[RSiitonen]

I wish gaussgun would come to this expansion. So much fun to shoot combine through walls even with the one in buggy =)

[Samon]

Gauss gun
P90
Ice pick
Sniper Rifle

[Jintor]

Oh, i know!
Nuklear Armmegedon!
Or maybe a super sheep!

Seriously though, i want another launcher. And the ability to turn the danged laser on the rpg off for DM. And a grappling hook would be nice... but it would get the OFLC on Valve's case... if you could use it on live people.

[RaBiD WeAzEL]

Baseball bat, shovel, tear gas, XXL staple gun.


Sounds like a riot.

[Rafa 5.0]

I'd like to see the Super Grav Gun... best damn thing ever :)
and Avraell....
Welcome to the forums!! :thumbs:
okay, this is really obvious, but I just have to blurt it out cuz it came to mind...

you still have the blue grav gun!!!! which means you'll be throwing stalkers and anything else that gets in your way around!!! haha

*Gordon and Alyx running down the citadel as stuff is exploding all around*

Alyx: Oh no Gordon, what are those things?? (stalkers) there's too many of them!!

Gordon: .......

*Aims gravity gun and fires at the bunch of stalkers*

Alyx: Well that was fast

:cheers:

[RaBiD WeAzEL]

I think that the blue grav gun will probably end up being destroyed during the explosion.

After the explosion and the G-Man talks to you and leaves through his magic door... You don't have a weapon at that moment... You probably lose it, and maybe they'll find it's parts later and convert it into the .... [one gun that was originally in E3 but they took out, but it allowed you to swing things around]....

Just a thought...

[Burky]

gluon gun, it's just nuts and halo 2 riped it off
that or a grapple hook

[riomhaire]

HEV mark VI.

[kupocake]

Sorry, I've just been throught 3 pages and I must be blind... where are the masses whineing about the OICW? Despite the great annoyance that people were over that gun, it'd be nice to see it in HL2:A I suppose. I believe it's the only weapon featured in a video that didn't make it into the game? I believe that it has a good chance of getting in this time round.

- Crowbar will be back rather than putting in the Ice Pick. Stun Baton is a posibility mind you...
- Grav-Gun will definately be back. It'd be criminal to leave it out.
- The Pistol? I reckon it will stay. It's not a significant enough "wow" gun to replace.
- Magnum is more likely to be replaced, but what for? Desert Eagle perhaps? Maybe even the AlyxGun..
- MP7 I can see being taken out and replaced, partly because people weren't very happy with it. Perhaps it'll be replaced with the MP5 seen in early development? The MP7 was a bit crap, but it looked great at the same time...
- The Combine Plasma rifle... I think it will stay, simply because it's hard to make a standard issue rifle simply disappear!
- Shotgun - It'll stay, though it'd be interesting to have a flak-cannon like twist on the idea with a new experimental weapon type thing.
- Crossbow - I think this is a very good candidate for replacement , given that it's a slightly oddball weapon in the first place. I'm thinking OICW or a straight down the middle Sniper Rifle (which be boring as hell). Potentially, they could to a twist on the Guass - give it a scope and a chargeable sniper attack.
- Grenades - Very likely to stay
- RPG - Can't see them getting rid of this either, though there is scope for a multi-barrel experimental UT type weapon with no laser dot (which would be a shame to loose and makes you wonder what you'd kill striders etc. with)
- Bug Bait - Antlions are back and it'd make sense for bugbait to be there too.

Other weapons I'd like to see it. The Gauss should be in there in some form, even as the aforementioned sniper type weapon. I'd also like to see the Hivehand or something similar - the original Hive Hand was a good idea (bullets that turn corners) but it wasn't pulled of quite right. "Bullets" that make a wimpy crunching noise remind me of rice crispies which isn't very satisfying. That gun should be retooled and made more beefier. I reckon the SLAM will be in, but if Valve were to come up with some new and exciting stuff (eg. different physics guns?), i wouldn't be complaining...

[Mechagodzilla]

I'd like the Combine sniper rifle. As long as that's in, with the kickass laser, I'm a happy pappy.
Of course, I can be appeased with any alien weaponry, be it of Xen or Combine origin. :P

It'd be dumb not to put in the SLAM, since it's right there and ready to go.
The flare gun, cremator head and alyx's gun are also good candidates, since they were all shown but not useable. (I'd also like to know wtf the cremator head actually does. Plus, including the head means that the body would have to be included too, along with his flamethrower deelie and fun-time combats. :p)

[Jandor]

Don't put the OICW in please. It's been cancelled if I remember correctly, so it wouldn't make sense for them to be floating around in Eastern Europe.

The Cremator Gun (Immolator?) would be cool.

[Sloth]

We need some BMRF weapons, like the gauss, or the teleporter gun??

[riomhaire]

A new grav gun that will act as a shield as a new fire mode but has a limited charge that goes up slowly.

[jondy]

Yeah, some advances in zero-point energy, along with associated sweet-ass shader effects, would be noice.

[Flyingdebris]

i just want the weapons to behave a little more realistically

as in

no more crazy spin/wobble to the nade launcher nades

no more crazy double shot for the spas 12. (in rl the spas 12 can be put into semi auto mode, do that instead)

model a grenade launcher for whatever the submachinegun is this time

model a speed loader for the 357


of course thats never gonna happen so i'd like to see some sort of return of the incendary rifle aka flare gun.

[The Monkey]

Gauss gun
Stunstick (in single-player too)
Some powerful hand weapon (Like a mobile Airboat gun)
Sniper Rifle
Snarks

[special-ed]

You should pick up a stunstick and a desert eagle from some dead combine and work your way up to emp rifles and overwatch plasma shotguns

[Samon]

P90!!!

[LordPomposity]

*Displacer (Opposing force).
*The scoped machine gun that was cut from Half-Life2, possibly as a replacement for the current smg.
*Combine sniper rifle; the fact that it emits a blue laser, giving away your position would prevent it from becoming the next AWP.
*Gluon gun, maybe mounted on some new vehicle? Speaking of vehicles, driving a Combine APC would be fun.
*Rat flail.

Remember that we're going to be fighting much tougher enemies in the expansion. The new weapons in Opposing Force would have been overpwered, but they were balanced out by enemies much tougher than anything Gordon had to deal with on a regular basis.

[OmegaX]

A sniper rifle similar to the one in Opposing Force.

[special-ed]

Rat flail? How about all the same weapon with the slam and some new combine toys.

[GiaOmerta]

The Cremator Gun (Immolator?) would be cool.
:)
Immolator is basically a flame/plasma thrower right? That would be great.

[special-ed]

keep dreaming guys

[Jandor]

Yeh. It disolves organic matter, used by Cremators to clear the streets after uprisings and fighting has ended.
Can also be used on living matter, disolving Combine, oh yes.

[GiaOmerta]

It goes for a bad day when you spill some of that solution on yourself during the job. :)

[Jandor]

I dont think Cremators are Human based, I was under the impression there Synth, seeing as during the original story, when Eli was telling you about the 7 hour war, there one of the troops that comes flooding out of the Citadel.

[CMEast]

You can't get rid of the crossbow, best weapon in the game!

Realistic weapons suck, I want a lascannon!

[specialmax]

The alyx emp tool would be the first weapon you get...

"beep beep boop"
"hiiiyaaa"
ZAP!

[Dowie]

What about all the cut weapons from HL2, and some of the OF ones

[Dinkleberry]

They have real rail guns that work.
Do they? our British rail network doesn't work, with what sourcery did they manage that one??

[Zeus]

Welding gun such as the one in jbmod/garry's mod

also a real sniper rifle (not to down the crossbow, a great weapon, but hl2 needs a sniper rifle)

[Dirk Pitt]

(7) v(muz)=(2DF/m)^.5=(2DILB/m)^.5=I(2DLu/m)^.5

v(muz)=Muzzle velocity (Meters/Second)

D=Length of rails (Meters)

F=Force applied (Newtons)

m=Mass of projectile (Kilograms)

I=Current through projectile (Amperes)

L=Width between rails (Meters)

B=Magnetic field strength (Teslas)

u=1.26x10^-6 (The magnetic permeability of free space, Henries/Meter)

These calculations ignore friction and air drag, which can be formidable at the speeds and forces applied to the rail gun slug. Top rail gun designs currently can launch a 2kg projectile with a muzzle velocity of close to 4km/s on roughly 6 meter rails. To reach this kind of velocity, the power source must provide roughly 6.5 million Amps. Ouch.

[Sargeras]

Crossbow must be replaced with the combine sniper rifle imo.

[Lemonking]

a decent rifle
M4 or M16 or better G36

[kaf11]

i support the idea of a G36. however, i would be upset if we get any living or organic weaponry. valve seemed to have left it out of HL2 for a reason and i hope they stick to that decission.

[CMEast]

Sniper rifles are really bad, really boring. You can't be scared of an enemy if he is so far back that a sniper rifle is useful. Plus they involve no skill at all, crossbow takes prediction to use.

[kupocake]

Sniper rifles are really bad, really boring. You can't be scared of an enemy if he is so far back that a sniper rifle is useful. Plus they involve no skill at all, crossbow takes prediction to use.
Couldn't agree more. What game doesn't have a sniper rifle? - Few games have 'sniper' rifles that are actually unique and HL's crossbow is one of these merry few. I do think that they'll put a sniper in place of the Crossbow though - it's just such an odd thing for the player character to stumble across. Three times. This assumes that the loadout is stripped from Gordon at the end of HL2, which is probably a safe assumption...

[Jandor]

Yeh, stumbling across crossbows, and ammo for crossbows, all the time is a bit wierd.

[Rafa 5.0]

They should have a flame thrower, maybe you walk into the combine armory in the way down and get to take all their goodies

[kaf11]

Sniper rifles are really bad, really boring. You can't be scared of an enemy if he is so far back that a sniper rifle is useful. Plus they involve no skill at all, crossbow takes prediction to use.
i agree. i hate it when a game throws in a sniper rifle simply to have a sniper rifle. case and point: max payne. amazing game, but why the hell would you have a sniper rifle for close quarters urban combat? i think sniper rifles should only be included when it is incorporated into a fun aspect of the gameplay or in multiplayer.

[Comrade_Jerkov]

an M8 would be nice

[fenner]

I'd like to see the MP5k (with burst fire mode) and OICW from the pre-release screenshots, and maybe the tau canon in hand-held form.. Plus a crossbow that shoots flaming iron rods! or not.

[MarcoPollo]

I miss the link gun from hl1 I loved charging it up and shooting my self across a hall.

[Dalamari]

All the guns the leaked alpha had but we didn't get to use, such as....

Sniper Rifle
Flare Gun
Mine Launcher
Tau Cannon
OICW

[Antlion Hunter]

BFG and chaingun.

[jmjneary]

Rail gun and the hacker tool

[Flyingdebris]

worst game to have a sniper rifle is Aliens vs predator 2. the sniper rifles sees just as much if not more CQC than any other human weapon in the game. You wanna know why?

instant hit, 1 shot kill, no deviation, no recoil

[Adabiviak]

worst game to have a sniper rifle is Aliens vs predator 2. the sniper rifles sees just as much if not more CQC than any other human weapon in the game. You wanna know why?

instant hit, 1 shot kill, no deviation, no recoil

Yeah - AVP2 is one of my all time favorite games, but online games with too many sniper rifles became lame quick. I think people liked that for the same reason they like to use cheats/bots in games - they're looking for high, easy kill counts as opposed to a challenging engagement.

I liked the barnacle weapon from OF. It wasn't the best against anything but a headcrab, but it could be fun if it were adapted to do different things in Source.

[Dr. Freeman]

i would like to see the return of snarks, spore launcher and the displacer ball (the last two weapons mentioned are from Opposing Force) as they were fun to use. :)

[The Mexican]

No, no snark. I hated them and i hate it when they decide to chase you and not the enemy.

[Qwert93]

I would like to see a flamethrower. It would be totally RAD.

[Mechagodzilla]

Oooh, I forgot:

With HL2 showing that barnacles can pick up and spit out the smaller physics junk, applying that concept to the OP4 B-gun would give us a wacky face-biting rudimentary grav-gun. :P

Me wantee!

[DEATH eVADER]

The Gluon Gun (Egon Gun) and the Cremator's chem spray

[KoreBolteR]

the weapons in farcry! with the sound too them, and the echo..

[Sprafa]

I'm afraid that Valve won't commit to making any new more guns. And I'm pretty much fine with it.

They won't bring stuff like the Cremator Gun or anything too alien.

They won't bring cutout stuff. My guess is they could add 1 or 2 minor things like the Flare Gun.

[KurtCobain]

I want to see the OICW (like in the very old videos)

Also and XM8 rifle wuld be nice ;)

nm if u dnt know what im on about. :D

[Polaris]

- Tool from first wall with Alyx and Gordon
- Hacker thing
- Alyx Gun
- P-90
- mayby M-29 OICW
- Bio Gravity gun (blue manipulator)
- some alien bio weapon (like Shock Roach from OpFor)
- dual pistols

[Samon]

You will not see the OICW. The program in real life was scrapped, it would be ridiculous to have it in half life 2, since it dont exist.

Polaris...NO!!

[Polaris]

You will not see the OICW. The program in real life was scrapped, it would be ridiculous to have it in half life 2, since it dont exist.

Polaris...NO!!

OK, you right, but P-90 is great isnt ? With laser sight. :naughty:

[Samon]

OK, you right, but P-90 is great isnt ? With laser sight. :naughty:

P90 - yes, that is a MUST. Its gorgeous. When I said NO!, I was referring to your sig!!

[wadee]

I'd love to see a gaussgun
or any hi-tech weapon
they should add a sniper too
alien weapon would b nice
PLZ DONT INCLUDE THE OICW IN THIS!!
:bounce:

[Jandor]

Join the anti-OICW brigade!

Standard Issue Overwatch Flare Gun
Standard Issue Overwatch Sniper Rifle
Standard Issue Overwatch Manhack Grenades
Immolator
Guass Gun

I'm happy, but just in case:

Snarks
Antlion King Spores
EMP Tool
Alyx Gun
Hopwire

I'll be ecstactic, I dont even care if there not all in the game, so long as they can go into maps :) .

[Samon]

I just want a P90 :(

[short recoil]

I just want a P90 :(
Mp7 is superior to the p90 in my opinion, it was afterall designed to solve the problems of the p90/compete with it.....like if you drop the p90 with a part loaded mag all the stacking buggers up and it will jam to such an amount its rubbish.

p90's are pretty cool, but i don't think it would be a good addition with the mp7 being in hl2

[Dr. Freeman]

I just want a P90 :(

go play Doom3 :p

[oni_666]

Katana to replace the crowbar! (this is a joke, but it would rock, anyways!).

G36 with grenade attachment.

Detacheable Laser, That can be attached to all projectile firing weapons.

The Predators spinning disc, outta Predator 2 and A vs P (the game).

MP5-SD3

[Samon]

go play Doom3 :p

I did. I only found a neon lit spud gun :p

[Lincoln]

There's no reason why the OICW couldn't be in here. Just because the program was put to a stop doesn't mean that there wouldn't be one lying around, and that a gun couldn't theorectically use the same type of ammo, huh?

[Jandor]

I doubt there would be an experimental U.S. weapon just 'lying around' in Eastern Europe. If it dosn't make sense it shouldn't be in the game, unless its incredibly fun, which the OICW isn't, it's just another automatic gun with a grenade launcher at the end of the day.

Now the Immolator with acid spraying nozzle and body disolving capabilities is another matter ;) .

[Lincoln]

I doubt there would be an experimental U.S. weapon just 'lying around' in Eastern Europe. If it dosn't make sense it shouldn't be in the game, unless its incredibly fun, which the OICW isn't, it's just another automatic gun with a grenade launcher at the end of the day.

Now the Immolator with acid spraying nozzle and body disolving capabilities is another matter ;) .
Ever wonder why the Immolator wasn't in the game in the first place? It got cut because it didn't work well, just like the OICW. And you forget that many characters in Half-Life 2 came from a U.S. experiments base. Maybe one of the scientists used one while escaping Black Mesa.

[xiphrex]

I want an ak, or some sort of rifle that is accurate and powerful long range. I want the element of aim put back into the game, and actual recoil that needs skill to control.

[fenner]

But the OICW has a huge nightvision scope and a fricken cannon! come on :p

[Icarusintel]

f*ck the OICW, put in the XM-8 and allow the player to change the parts, like add a grenade launcher, or turn it into a sniper rifle or a full-on heavy machinegun, like you can do to the XM-8 in real life, you could add the changing feature in like it is in SC:CT, which was a pretty neat part of the game, would add a lot of utility to the gun

[wackywack101]

the oicw or whatever can be put into hl2 even if its not real because- hl2 is science-fiction there could be a toilet juice gun 4 all i care. HL2's storyline is screwed up anyways..

Flamethrower
DUAL MINIGUNS!!
BFG
The (BIG) gun in hl that looks like a back pack with a hose attached and shoots massive laser stuff.
NO snarks they suck
Dual uzi's (sven)
More of the old guns.
That funny spore gun in op4 that makes funny noises when u "feed" it.
Heavy duty mg's
Laser type guns.
at least twice as many guns that are in hl2 and they hold twice as much ammo.(remember this game doesnt havew to be realistic)

[JNightshade]

I agree with a lot of what's being said... except for the whole "lots of ammo" part. It took me a while, but I finally realized that the scarcity of ammo in HL2 just makes the player more resourceful, and actually makes the game more fun. So yeah, new weapons/characters/vehicles would (or will) kick ass, but I think they should keep ammo limits low.

[Agent G-Man]

1. AK-47
2. P-90
3. minguns
4. OICW (I don't care, the gun would look frickin awesome in HL2)

[Polaris]

Please no Ak-47, its f**** russian weapon. I really hate it.
P-90 rules !

[Samon]

Heh, everyone wants to see the P90 - Oh valve!

[kupocake]

Please no Ak-47, its f**** russian weapon. I really hate it.
On that basis, the AK-47 would be a good gun to put into City 17 because it's an eastern european setting. However, i'm sick of AK-47s and they should be confined to Counter Strike ^^

OICW in the game? Well perhaps the Combine just restarted the weapons programme after they came to earth. Convuluted I know, and I hope that Valve have the sense to make new guns rather than solely falling back on those that they developed in the run up to HL2...

[Urbanebula]

The God Damned Sniper Rifle!

[Polaris]

The God Damned Sniper Rifle!
Yes sniper rifle could be good, my favourite is HK - G3.

[Flyingdebris]

get rid of mp7, swap it out for gun with actual nade launcher.

make the nade launchers not shoot all retarded like they do now. (i.e. if the nade is rifled, it will not fly out only 40 feet with a backspin to it)

Introduce some element of controlling recoil. I'd like to have some reason to crouch other than moving through hero sized airvents.Or to have to fire in bursts.

Get rid of shotgun double blast. It makes no sense. it makes baby jesus cry. It gives me cancer! Its not an extra barrel valve, its the tube mag where the shells are held!

Immolator!

This game would be so much better with the real world weaposn being treated accurately. I don't have any problem with the sci fi weapons. but at least get the real world stuff right. sheesh.

[kupocake]

This game would be so much better with the real world weaposn being treated accurately.
I guarantee you that 95% of people who played Half-Life 2 would not have noticed the real-world problems that gun freaks go into labour over. Valve probably doesn't know what they've done wrong either, but it's highly unlikely they'll make any changes even if they did. The bottom line is: who cares? Charlton Heston? :P

[DEATH eVADER]

Mp7 is superior to the p90 in my opinion, it was afterall designed to solve the problems of the p90/compete with it.....like if you drop the p90 with a part loaded mag all the stacking buggers up and it will jam to such an amount its rubbish.

p90's are pretty cool, but i don't think it would be a good addition with the mp7 being in hl2


Except the MP7 is in actual fact, unreliable, compared to the P90 (It also has a similar problem with jamming when knocked around). Surprised the combine deemed the weapon worthy in their stores.

[Beerdude26]

I just want a P90 :(

Lol they're built here, right in Belgium. Want me to get you one? :P

[Beerdude26]

the oicw or whatever can be put into hl2 even if its not real because- hl2 is science-fiction there could be a toilet juice gun 4 all i care. HL2's storyline is screwed up anyways..

Flamethrower
DUAL MINIGUNS!!
BFG
The (BIG) gun in hl that looks like a back pack with a hose attached and shoots massive laser stuff.
NO snarks they suck
Dual uzi's (sven)
More of the old guns.
That funny spore gun in op4 that makes funny noises when u "feed" it.
Heavy duty mg's
Laser type guns.
at least twice as many guns that are in hl2 and they hold twice as much ammo.(remember this game doesnt havew to be realistic)

Oh, of course, after ragdolls, physics, realistic faces and a great storyline, who needs realism?

Just to point out that not all of your ideas will be executed :P

[Lahire149]

[QUOTE=short recoil]An electro thermal (plasma) anti material auto loading rifle.
.50 calibre explosive shells, decent scope (thermal, night vision or something)
QUOTE]
that'd be sweet...
But i'm content with having a regular sniper instead of the crossbow.

[Agent G-Man]

self-loading or bolt-action?

[Flyingdebris]

I guarantee you that 95% of people who played Half-Life 2 would not have noticed the real-world problems that gun freaks go into labour over. Valve probably doesn't know what they've done wrong either, but it's highly unlikely they'll make any changes even if they did. The bottom line is: who cares? Charlton Heston?

i care :(

Now don't get me wrong, I don't want hl2 to behave like Rainbow 6 or Americas army or anything like that.

I'd just wish that the real life weapons that i mentioned didn't quite defy all logic and reason so much. I mean really, EXPLAIN to me how a shotgun fires an extra round through its magazine tube. Thats the equivalent of giving the 357 revolver some crazy secondary fire mode that involves firing all 6 rounds at once without needing the barrel.

aaaahhh i'm making my head hurt.

[BlackDahlia]

A Nerf Ballzooka.

:P

[Qwert93]

I'll like a sonic thingy gun. It'll make people suffer in agony from the loud sound it makes, but will be ineffective to you because of your HEV suit.

[kupocake]

I'd just wish that the real life weapons that i mentioned didn't quite defy all logic and reason so much. I mean really, EXPLAIN to me how a shotgun fires an extra round through its magazine tube.
Sure it's silly, but it's not something I've actually thought of long and hard. From a gameplay perspective, the two fire modes are good and I guess that's what matters. In future Valve should be a little more accurate - it seems strange that for all their on-site research for realistic european locations that they can't understand the inner workings of the guns in a shooting game. But really people shouldn't let it bother them too much ^^

[scarecrow1]

OICW man...high caliber assault rifle...YEAH

[Flyingdebris]

oh well such is life, thats what i get for being a military accuracy geek as well as an FPS player

[Jintor]

A gravity bomb...


what?


If you can get a Zero-Point-Energy manipulator, what's so rediculeous about a grav bomb?

[piggy]

A gravity bomb...


what?


If you can get a Zero-Point-Energy manipulator, what's so rediculeous about a grav bomb?


ill tell u. the difference is that a grav gun accually can be made, a grav nade cant.

if u check out a bit of particle physics and string theory, u see that there is a thing called zero-point energy in real life. the prob is that is uses shitloads of juice to power it.
that is a reason that they havent dev'd it yet.

EDIT: (i know im nerdy, im born to it)

[Cunni]

You know the original Tunnels video from E3 2003? The flare gun that Gordon was shooting flares at the combine with? THAT is what I want.

[Gordon's Brother]

snarks on steroids!THAT WOULD PWN

[Rafa 5.0]

snarks on steroids!THAT WOULD PWN
Snarks are bad enough as it is...

[Joe]

i care :(

Now don't get me wrong, I don't want hl2 to behave like Rainbow 6 or Americas army or anything like that.

I'd just wish that the real life weapons that i mentioned didn't quite defy all logic and reason so much. I mean really, EXPLAIN to me how a shotgun fires an extra round through its magazine tube. Thats the equivalent of giving the 357 revolver some crazy secondary fire mode that involves firing all 6 rounds at once without needing the barrel.

aaaahhh i'm making my head hurt.

Well, you have to give Valve some credit. They did atleast make the reload and, aside from the double barrel, the shotgun operates fairly realistically. IE: Gordon doesn't "pump" the action if you reload with rounds still in the gun, like every other game on the planet. And if you fire a shot, and quickly reload before he has a chance to "pump" the action, he'll reload, and then cycle it to eject the empty shotgun shell.

[Angry Lawyer]

ill tell u. the difference is that a grav gun accually can be made, a grav nade cant.

if u check out a bit of particle physics and string theory, u see that there is a thing called zero-point energy in real life. the prob is that is uses shitloads of juice to power it.
that is a reason that they havent dev'd it yet.

EDIT: (i know im nerdy, im born to it)

If people actually made a "zero point energy manipulator", it's probably be the size of a house, and only be able to move really small things.

Science has only just started believing in the zero point energy stuff. They're not exactly in a position to harness it.

-Angry Lawyer

[Flyingdebris]

this is SUPER science though

and yeah you are right they did get the reloading sequences right for most of their stuff. but if someone would make a realistic weapons mod for hl2 i would hop on that and never look back

[Angry Lawyer]

I wouldn't. I'd rather not have the worst aim on the planet, the inability to hold more than one weapon, and having guns jam on me/having to perform maintenance on them.

-Angry Lawyer

[Spoonoop]

Heavy Machine Gun and Alien/Experimental weaponry, maybe an actual Sniper Rifle too.

[Jintor]

Haha, and you'd have to fill in form E-18HGF9354-587DBC84HR, as well.

[Top Secret]

To be God honest, I think a 1903 Springfield would be awesome. It would just... make me feel all warm inside. I like bolt action. And it would feel so *resistance* like too. Combines patrolling the street, a lonely resistance fighter peeks out of an alley way, and get's a shot off going right through a combine guard's chest. And then quickly ducking back into the alley to blend back in to the surrounding rubble.

[DoctorWeeTodd]

i agree. i hate it when a game throws in a sniper rifle simply to have a sniper rifle. case and point: max payne. amazing game, but why the hell would you have a sniper rifle for close quarters urban combat? i think sniper rifles should only be included when it is incorporated into a fun aspect of the gameplay or in multiplayer.

Hey, that was the coolest sniper of them all. With the camera following the bullet and what not and the best zoom feature as well.

[MikeL15]

To add on to what was posted ealier in the thread: Last time I read about the MP7, if you dropped it, it would start shooting... untill the clip was gone I guess. And the p90 is already in that one HL2 mod, substance i think it was.

And the AK47 would not be a good choice for the game. For lots of reasons, first to start off, there is a newer version. The AK74, which is more accurate would probly be included if an ak was to be included at all. Also, only terrorists use the AK47 now and HL2 is in the future, so the AK47 would probly take over. Along with that, this is in or near Russia(there are posters on the walls with russian writing on them) so the AK74 would obviously already be there.

But I think they will only add a few more not-so-important guns, nothing huge. This is an expansion pack people, not HL3. But I still would like to see a few guns like a heavier machine gun than the MP7 and also Alyxs gun. I only want Alyxs modded colt because it looks awsome. Maybe the HK53(or a gun like it) because I just love how it looks.

On to my last part. Accuracy. Has anyone but me noticed how unaccurate the guns are? For example, the pistol rarely hits what your aiming for if your more than a few yards away. Same for the MP7... and the combine assalt rifle(cant remember the name). It may be like that for gameplay reasons but it still annoys me. Also, the amount of tracers the guns have, or how well you can see them in the light, may be one reasons I think the accuracy is off, because I can actually see where the bullets are going. But I dunno... its still fun and all...

[TheSomeone]

An electro thermal (plasma) anti material auto loading rifle.


You have no clue what you just said do you?

I want to see something original, painkiller had some really original guns. Not some super-zorg-plasma-laser-super(again)-gonnorhea-thermalvision-scoped megarifle.

How about a wave rifle? It shoots invisble radio waves and makes people's head explode because of pressure :D.

To be God honest, I think a 1903 Springfield would be awesome. It would just... make me feel all warm inside. I like bolt action. And it would feel so *resistance* like too. Combines patrolling the street, a lonely resistance fighter peeks out of an alley way, and get's a shot off going right through a combine guard's chest. And then quickly ducking back into the alley to blend back in to the surrounding rubble.

To my knowledge, they haven't used those guns for over 50 years :dozey: . Plus, you could do the same thing with a regular sniper rifle. Have you seen "Enemy at the gates"? You probably have, but if you haven't it'll be your next favorite movie. Guaranteed.

[TheSomeone]

ill tell u. the difference is that a grav gun accually can be made, a grav nade cant.

if u check out a bit of particle physics and string theory, u see that there is a thing called zero-point energy in real life. the prob is that is uses shitloads of juice to power it.
that is a reason that they havent dev'd it yet.

EDIT: (i know im nerdy, im born to it)

Well there's obvioulsy a difference between being nerdy and having some common sense. A mini grav-gun like that is quasi-impossible, and really, who cares if they have grav-bombs? It's not realistic? I guess it wouldn't fit in with all the super realistic stuff like combine hover crafts and randomly placed barrels full of explosives and alien headcrabs. An anti gravity field bomb would be tight, like, it explodes and creates a small field of no gravity for a short amount of time so you can jump really high in it :D.

Edit: They should have an AK-X which is some sooped up AK-47 with HL2 style recoil control, 4x scope and a gangsta design.

[MikeL15]

Actually the springfield was used in Vietnam, I think. Im not really sure. But I never really liked it anyway. As you said, you can play ww2 games with noramal snipers too...

And the gravnade, I picture would be more of a riot like weapon. It would just send out a giant wave, knocking stuff over, but not causing the damage of a noram nade. But the anti-grav idea makes more sence and I think thats what he meant... but I still like my idea : P

[Dsty2001]

A couple of ideas

1) Thermal Grenade - Grenade ignites anything within 20m on fire
2) Pulse rifle - Emits a large pulse wave that blasts anything in front of it backwards several feet, killing it.
3) ICRECR (Individual Combat Ready Electrical Charge Rifle) - Launches several small electrical rounds that fly through the air, sending an intense blast of electric shock to anything it passes by.
4) Area Cleaner Grenade - Once its activated, the grenade creates an intense area of gravity which pulls anything within a certain radius towards it, squeezing every object it affects to the point of breakage, then once the area of gravity is full, the grenade detonates throwing everything that it sucked in at an extremely fast velocity

[MikeL15]

One thing to remember... while an idea may sound cool, source cannot do unlimmed things you know. Another simple gun would be easy, but making something that does things not already done would require them to code it into the source engine which would take longer time to make.

And remember, this isnt like SoF2, peoples lims cannot get blown off, melted, squeezed, etc.. so try not to suggest weapons that do that sort of thing.

[TheSomeone]

Mike L15, save your "you can't do that with the engine" comments for when Valve actually takes a look at our suggestions.

[Rafa 5.0]

a sound wave weapon like the one in Minority Report

[MikeL15]

Mike L15, save your "you can't do that with the engine" comments for when Valve actually takes a look at our suggestions.
Well, its pretty much a given that they wont include guns that melt you, blow you apart, etc, unless they added that kind of damage system into the game which Im pretty sure they wont, or they would have already...

[Top Secret]

LMAO, yeah. I know there are newer sniper rifles than the 1903 Springfield. :) It's just my second favorite bolt action rifle, and has that whole "resistance" feel about it. As for favorite bolt action rifle, that would have to be an M40A3. :D

[Spas12]

I would like to see the guns that valve took out of the half-life 2 beta, like the gauss gun, the OICW, the sniper, and other weapons like that. Hope it has a better G-gun :p

[Eaglebird]

I'd like to see something relevant to dog's ball, so that when you throw it, dogs jumps out of nowhere and kills everything and tosses a random car...
Kinda like the pheropods for the antlions, but for dog

[MikeL15]

Actually, thinking about how this is in the future some, how bout an automatic shotgun? They look pretty cool, and balances itself with low accuracy, but high rate of fire. Something like the usas12, spas15, saiga12k(sence its in Russia) or HK Caws.

But, that might disapoint some people since the spas12 has been in the game sence the 1st Half-Life...

[Spectre01]

How about that really long pistol that the joker used in Batman?

[riomhaire]

here's an idea for a weapon. Like the shock roach from OP4 (but it shoots spikes) it would attack you but instead of you getting it as an invintory item it would actualy attach to your arm and drain you health for a few seconds before you could use it. The best bit would be it might sometimes attach to your weapon. It would attach to the barrel of your shotgun (secondary fire=super source gibbing). Or it would attach to your RPG launcher and when you shoot it would attach to the RPG. The funniest thing would be if it it attached to your arm while you throw a grenade and it would force you to hold the armed grenade in your hand and kill yourself. The only way to detach it would be to get out your crowbar which would automaticaly hit it off (doing yourself minor damage).

[michaelsil1]

We already have a great weapon the .357, it just needs more ammo.

[Marx! II]

The sniper rifle would do nicely, and be a decent replacement for the crossbow as well.
Not that I dislike pinning combine folks to walls or anything, but white-hot rebar makes for some wierd ammo. Apart from which, the sniper shoot really slow, so it's not that much of an improvement.

[GonzoBabbleshit]

I'd like to see the crossbow taken out actually, it doesn't really fit in with the whole game...imo

[riomhaire]

I'd like to see the crossbow taken out actually, it doesn't really fit in with the whole game...imo
How dosn't it? It is a resistance made weapon to take shots at the Combine from a safe distance.

[GonzoBabbleshit]

well, compare it to the rest of the weapons...just seems a little more crude

[riomhaire]

well, compare it to the rest of the weapons...just seems a little more crude
That's because it's resistance made, function over fashion

[GonzoBabbleshit]

alright, I get it...you like the crossbow. I don't...well, I'd prefer something else

[MikeL15]

How can you not like it? It takes one shot to kill, and it pinns em to the walls... its awsome... plus, its tradition... all the guns that were in HL1 are in HL2... maybe a little upgraded but they are still the same...

Well, exept the experimental weapons were replaced by the combine weapons... why did Gman take all your weapons?? Who cares if they were "government property"?

[sroom2]

:naughty: ßFG 500¡¡¡ Lï3k ïn d00m¡¡ :naughty:

[Dag]

Egon Gun, Teleportation Gun, Something that lives, like the hive hand, shock roach, spore launcher. Somewhere along those lines.

[sid_burnd]

Definately, a lazer gun, from that boring movie "Congo". A good clean swipe should take their little masked heads off.

[Curator]

I would like to see at least one of the following:

-Portable Gauss gun
-Portable strider anti-matter cannon
-Egon gun
-Elyx gun (fully automatic USP handgun)
-Something akin to the handheld rail gun used in the arnold movie The Sixth Day
-Alternate mode for the gravity gun, ability to stop most projectiles in mid air ala Matrix style
-remove grenade launcher alternate fire from MP7 as it just didn't make any sense. The MP7 does not have a grenade launcher option in real life.
-add OICW with grenade launcher and accurate burst fire or explosive rounds
-Some new type of powerful alien weapon would be nice.

In all honesty I hope Valve adds one new weapon at the very least, something futuristic would be nice.

[DoctorWeeTodd]

I would like to see Gordon use one of these. (http://www.hkpro.com/gmg.htm)

[Samon]

Which idiot bumped this bloody thread. :|

[jondy]

a sound wave weapon like the one in Minority Report

Yes, god yes! With pixel shader effects in abundance!

[MarcoPollo]

Some type of booby trap you could set up, like the combine jumper mines...That would be cool.

[15357]

A mini-thermonuclear device.

[RecklessSneak]

Most of all i'd like to see more magnum ammunition. I'd prefere they scrapped the assualt rifle and replaced it with something like an M4. The alien assualt rifle looked dung.

[Victor2]

all the wepons that were cut out from the final version, some soviet era weapons, since this game takes place in eastern Europe, it´s kinda hard to believe that H&K has taken over the weapons market before the 7hrs war

[kupocake]

all the wepons that were cut out from the final version, some soviet era weapons, since this game takes place in eastern Europe, it´s kinda hard to believe that H&K has taken over the weapons market before the 7hrs war
Ahh... but is it so hard to believe that H&K were the only gun-manufacturers on the Combine pay-roll after the 7 Hours War? Perhaps their management was the easiest to influence or perhaps the Combine genuinely felt that H&K made the best guns on Earth? ^^

[Hunter_8472]

This isn't necessarily a weapon, but its killage related:

Accurate locational sliceage of enemies hit by flying blades. Also, all enemies can be sliced, not just zombies.

But if I had to pick a gun, something with lots of electric arcs and sparks.

[Rocketman9mm]

a true assault rifle that packs a punch. not just an smg you have to sit there and uload an entire mag on to kill a combine.

[PhantomReality]

1) Sniper
2) Assult Rifle
3) More attacks for grav gun
a) use the primary to hit enimes
b) blades spin when held
c) more types of blades

also the alyx gun is actually available to use, i forget how exactly but if you spawn an alyx in a level where she is not critical you can actually kill her and pick up her gun. However it has no first-person model so its a big black block that takes up half the screen but it does shoot and kill

[DoctorWeeTodd]

Ahh... but is it so hard to believe that H&K were the only gun-manufacturers on the Combine pay-roll after the 7 Hours War? Perhaps their management was the easiest to influence or perhaps the Combine genuinely felt that H&K made the best guns on Earth? ^^

Hmmm...I seem to agree with the Combine on a lot of things. Scary...... :O

[thethingexe]

The G-Man Gun... =P

[Victor2]

Ahh... but is it so hard to believe that H&K were the only gun-manufacturers on the Combine pay-roll after the 7 Hours War? Perhaps their management was the easiest to influence or perhaps the Combine genuinely felt that H&K made the best guns on Earth? ^^


but.......looking at this from another point-of-view, it would be kinda cool to see ALL of HK´s famous weapons such as the Mark.23, the X-M8, X-m29, MSG-90, the G-36 K

[Jack_Karverboy]

A Plasmatizer gun, it would dissentegrate anything you shoot at

[Samon]

A Plasmatizer gun, it would dissentegrate anything you shoot at

Bit like the Pulse rifles secondary fire really. Or the cremator hose.

[Black Mesa corp]

A combine pistol.... no i really mean a 'combine' pistol. You can add features to it that enable it to do new things, like dodge objects to hit an enemy, or heat seeking lol :borg:

[riomhaire]

A glowing orbs that destroys all the stupid overpowered or just plain idiotic gun ideas already posted on this thread.

[Samon]

A glowing orbs that destroys all the stupid overpowered or just plain idiotic gun ideas already posted on this thread.

I concur.

[Angry Lawyer]

A glowing orbs that destroys all the stupid overpowered or just plain idiotic gun ideas already posted on this thread.

That's a winner for me.

-Angry Lawyer

[Bob_Marley]

A Bren gun! Every game needs a Bren gun!

[riomhaire]

I'm afraid to ask but what the hell is a Bren gun?

[Bob_Marley]

its one of these: http://world.guns.ru/machine/mg10-e.htm
havent you ever watched lock, stock and two smoking barrels/a bridge too far/the longest day/ any war film featureing british troops ever?
ne way it was just a joke, a WWII LMG probubly dosent have a place in a sci-fi game set in the future (tho it would be kool).

[special-ed]

Well if Aftermath will be a quarter of hl2 I doubt we'll be seeing much new weapons.

[jimmyjam]

op4 was like half of hl? something like that? it had an almost entirely new set of weapons

[Grigori]

To use Annabelle legitelly :D?

[FoB_Ed]

I'd like to see another melee weapon..like an Iceaxe.

Also, a Homemade flamethrower (can of hair spray + lighter?) :naughty:

[Que-Ever]

http://img234.echo.cx/my.php?image=alphaanyone7kw.png&tc=img234/8016/doomguy1jn.png
compilation of textures I found in the hammer editor. I'd like to see any of these... I numbered them in the pics, and here's are the names, by number...
1: CROWBAR
2: PISTOL
3: ICEAXE
4: FLAREGUN
5: BINOCULARS
6: SMG1 (mp5k)
7: STUNSTICK
8: SMG2 (mp7)
9: ASSAULT RIFLE 1(?)
10: HEAVY MACHINE GUN
11: ASSAULT RIFLE 2 (OICW)
12: S.L.A.M.
13: SHOTGUN
14: GRENADE
15: SNIPER RIFLE
16: MANIPULATOR
17: TAU CANNON
18: MISSILE LAUNCHER
19: MOLOTOV
20: THEROPOD
21: PULSE… THING

and, then of course, there's the arsenals from the other games:
crowbar
glock 18
some sort of magnum
mp5/m16
spas 12
crossbow
trip mine
grenade
snarks (:))
gauss gun
tau cannon
RPG launcher
hornet gun
shock roach
spore launcher
barnical gun
sniper rifle
SAW
probably others that I don't remember. Then there were the spore grenades the shock troops in Op4 had....

[sinkoman]

I want to see a handgun, that shoots a lazer beam.

Now don't get all excited and all, "OMFG TH4T5 ST00PID SC1 F1!!!", i'm not finished yet.

I think it'd be cool if it was a dog controller. Primary fire gets dog into that position, or gets him to attack if you selected something attackable, and secondary fire gets him to pick up whatever you shot. So you get him to pick up that dumpster with secondary fire, and then, just like the grav gun, primary fire on that combine squad and he throws the dumpster on them.

I think that'd own.

[Que-Ever]

oh, here's a suggestion a guy made in PHL a while back, I thought it was pretty cool.
Yuo have like a remote sort of thing, and you aim it at something, and a combine sattelite brings down a suppression beam or the like in the area. Like a missile caller, or seomthing. But with the suppression beam. oh daer, I'm afraid I haven't explained myself very clearly...

[Roma FreshmaN]

I don't know what exactly weapon Valve must add in play, but its must be much, at least as in thieved versions HL2 :sniper:
excuse me for my english:angel:

[kupocake]

oh, here's a suggestion a guy made in PHL a while back, I thought it was pretty cool.
Yuo have like a remote sort of thing, and you aim it at something, and a combine sattelite brings down a suppression beam or the like in the area. Like a missile caller, or seomthing. But with the suppression beam. oh daer, I'm afraid I haven't explained myself very clearly...
Epic Megagames called, they want their Ion Cannon back.

I want to see a handgun, that shoots a lazer beam.

Now don't get all excited and all, "OMFG TH4T5 ST00PID SC1 F1!!!", i'm not finished yet.

I think it'd be cool if it was a dog controller. Primary fire gets dog into that position, or gets him to attack if you selected something attackable, and secondary fire gets him to pick up whatever you shot. So you get him to pick up that dumpster with secondary fire, and then, just like the grav gun, primary fire on that combine squad and he throws the dumpster on them.

I think that'd own.
The second bit kind of negates the first... why do we need a laser handgun that is in fact not a laser handgun? I like the idea of commanding dog, but all they really need to do is have the "C" button context sensitive rather than having a whole new gun for it all.

[BlackMesaDude]

I would like the OICW or just a better assault rifle with a bigger clip and a nice zoom.

[Samon]

You won't see the OICW. That was scrapped because the project in real life was scrapped as well.

[Salad22]

Hmm.. why not some more powerful weapons? perhaps some weapons from cs? hehe ;) it would be awesome if you had m4a1 in HL2.. or the paramachinegun..
I mean the weapons in HL2 sucked.. really

MP7 was a bad gun... the 9mm pistol wasn't that good either..
hey how about the SG3000 sniper?? lol

[Samon]

M4 is starting to become too cliched for my liking