WoW = definately NOT "wow" [Archive]

VirusType2

12-03-2005, 10:26 PM

Well I've been playing the game for hours.

The game isn't really hooking me.

I prefered everquest for PS2

The graphics are not very good

the sound effects, while more realistic than everquest for PS2 don't really sound cool - everyquest was small low quallity samples but they really sounded right satisfying

the animation isn't very good

the weapon animation and moves is dull and the special attacks are wierd and choppy.

I hope I find a character I like soon, I've got a level 6 hunter and a level 4 shaman.

I hate to think how much I spent on this game that cannot be played offline and is 15$ a month

I think I want to try a character with a wooden weapon - it sounds cool when they hit the mobs

I think I was expecting way too much from this game

Maybe I should have got EQII or guild wars

Harryz

12-03-2005, 10:28 PM

Can't you cancel your subscription?

simmo

12-03-2005, 10:30 PM

Have you got a spare friends key ?! :O:O...ill be your friend :D

Ive played in the WoW beta and loved it, need one more go to decide if its worth it :P

The Mullinator

12-03-2005, 10:32 PM

Try to at least get your hunter to level 10. A hunter is really quite boring up until then because that is when you get to have a pet and a hunter really starts to shine.

Also if you are playing a Night-Elf hunter try to leave Kalimdor and go to Stormwind soon after hitting level 10. I personally found doing quests in Stormwind and Ironforge much more interesting than the ones in and around Teldrassil.

Warbie

12-03-2005, 10:33 PM

Are you playing on your own?

What settings are you using?

With everything maxed out, at a decent resolution, WoW looks excellent (breathtaking sometimes). It's also a game that's infinitely better when played with friends (get on comms, and go adventuring) Soloing gets boring fast

The longer you play, customise your charatcer, develop skills, and see the world, the more enjoyable WoW becomes. Judging it after a day or two's play is very premature - you haven't even begun to find the tip of the iceberg ;)

BHC

12-03-2005, 10:44 PM

EQ2 might be your bag, I personally enjoy both. Though I dont subscribe to EQ only WoW atm. But yes WoW is slightly overated, it doesent take many chances at all and I cant seem to get past the 20's without getting really bored with long trekking and endless hunting on mindless deliver my paper to this house quests.

gh0st

12-03-2005, 10:45 PM

I thought wow sucked too, dont worry.

StardogChampion

12-03-2005, 10:45 PM

the animation isn't very good
It's pretty good actually.

I hope I find a character I like soon, I've got a level 6 hunter and a level 4 shaman.
Try a human paladin, and level them until at least lvl10 before creating more characters.

Maybe I should have got EQII or guild wars
Stop putting guild wars in the same category as EQ and WoW. Personally I didn't like EQII at all. Try the free trial and see what you think.

WoW takes what's already in current MMORPGs and does them twice as well.

BRODIEMAN2k4

12-03-2005, 11:05 PM

Yeah, you will be disappointed with EQ2. Personally before release, i had no intrest in WoW what so ever, but i was dieing to try EQ2. I thought that EQ2 would own WoW on all levels. Then i was in the beta for EQ2. I thought it wasn't fun. I heard that WoW was really good so i bought it, best buy i've made in ages.

CTTcrew_MrBlue

12-03-2005, 11:16 PM

WOW > You.

End.

RRunner

12-03-2005, 11:22 PM

Since i discovered that i couldent for some pervers reason buy WoW (they need more servers up be4 new releases, 1. time in my life i´ve heard anything this moronic, but hey blizzard is known 4 their speed *sarcasme intended*). I downloaded EQ2 (the trial), i must admit i like it, very good looking, like the tradeskills, not as static as EQ1, looks pretty good 2 me.

Sui

12-03-2005, 11:23 PM

From what I hear, you're just judging WoW buy it's graphics. If you play a game for graphics, fluidity and animation alone, you probally won't like any game before HL2. Like Warbie said, this game isn't about graphics or how good the quests are. It's simply about the atmosphere that you play with. A quest that simply requires you to enter a dungeon and slay an ogre can be made as fun as possible if you're questing with really good mates, while listening to loud music and laughing your arse off at the jokes being flung over guild chat.

KagePrototype

12-03-2005, 11:27 PM

With MMOs, you're going to get VERY bored VERY quickly when doing things on your own. The most fun comes out of partying up with others, joining guilds, and having a damn good time doing stuff together. Especially in dungeons and instances; spending upwards to 3 hours on a quest with your mates is an unbeatable experience. Hell, even with complete strangers it's great fun. :)

And WoW, not good looking? :O You must be running on some low settings, WoW looks incredible.

Septih

12-03-2005, 11:40 PM

A quest that simply requires you to enter a dungeon and slay an ogre can be made as fun as possible if you're questing with really good mates, while listening to loud music and laughing your arse off at the jokes being flung over guild chat.

amen to that. I did loads of the gameplay stuff during the beta, i didn't have to get retail but i will because i made some really good friends over that period and had a lot of fun. The fact that i like the atmosphere as well helps :P

BRODIEMAN2k4

12-03-2005, 11:55 PM

I wish i was in the beta, i hear warriors used to be useable :(

ButtHoleMcGee

13-03-2005, 02:26 AM

I wish i was in the beta, i hear warriors used to be useable :(

Level 60 Warriors annihilated areas where they would normally need a full group. :(

BRODIEMAN2k4

13-03-2005, 02:30 AM

Now level 60 warrior need groups for that other classes would normally solo :(

Warbie

13-03-2005, 03:12 AM

I just finished a good 3 hour WoW session with 4 mates - excellent fun, with plenty of aimless chat and laughing over comms. Our posse of dwarfs is getting quite tough :)

Playing solo simply can't compare - it's like choosing a wank over a good shag.

Foxtrot

13-03-2005, 03:19 AM

Nid Banikeri

13-03-2005, 03:28 AM

Well I've been playing the game for hours.

....you have to play for more than a few hours to appreciate it. Hell, most people love WoW from the start.

Either way, your wrong. WoW is the best of its kind out there.

With regards to the graphics and animations...MMORPGS do not have the best because of the scale of them, and WoW's graphics are still dam good.

Get to level 30+ and you'll enjoy it, you may have to find a class that you enjoy playing. I love em all :)

VirusType2

13-03-2005, 03:41 AM

Im not saying its not a deep, quality game- im saying I think I may have enjoyed EQ II more becuase that is the game I spent almost a year playing non-stop almost didnt stop to pee or order pizza - it hooked me so much i kind of miss it

I made a human warrior - i got to level 7.. i liked using him the most so far but now its just ok - kinda bored.

I have been playing it ever since I woke up today so Its obviously a fun game I was just expecting to never want to leave my room again

/pizza

Its just a few things are bugging me

why is it when Im walking forward its smooth as ice (about 60 fps), but whenever i turn, its really choppy.. 15 fps?
-is it my computer? i think its the way they programed it to keep the game from crawling when there is alot of people -

Is there a way to change this?

Also the character animations - is there a way to increase them?
- whenver I do my moves it's like 5 frames of animation . i know its not my computers fault

Also I have tried grouping but when i grouped once it was kind of cool, but with my warrior no one ever invited me to group I kept asking everyone my level - but i finished my quest by running past all the corpses people were leaving to get to my goal.

Does anyone use a controll pad to play this game? -i was thinking maybe if I had anologue controll over my movement, It wouldn't be choppy when i turn

Warbie

13-03-2005, 03:44 AM

The animation certainly isn't like that for me.

Everything looks fluid, and the graphics are fantastic.

Nid Banikeri

13-03-2005, 03:46 AM

Yes, its your computer. You need more ram by the sounds of it

VirusType2

13-03-2005, 03:50 AM

Yes, its your computer. You need more ram by the sounds of it
Its probably my video card and processor becuase i have 1024 MB and a 256 MB video card

Letters

13-03-2005, 05:51 AM

You need to at least least get to level 20 and do either the Wailing Caverns if you're Horde or the Deadmines if you're Alliance. That'll actually give you a taste of the grouping yet to come... ans while it's best to either join a guild and group with them or make some friends, they can still be done with random people...

Calanen

13-03-2005, 06:10 AM

I thought WOW sucked - but heaps of people liked it. Horses for courses I guess.

Duracell

13-03-2005, 06:13 AM

WoW is the first game that has hooked me since Ultima Online which = wow. :)

VirusType2

13-03-2005, 06:18 AM

It's too bad that robes (one of my favorite things about RPG's)..

its too bad that they take the chest slot - so you can either wear chest armor or a robe -and for warriors and such there really is no option.

I guess if you could wear a robe over top of your full set of armor then everyone in the game would be wearing a robe ........

blahblahblah

13-03-2005, 06:58 AM

WoW has some of the more "expressive" character animations I've seen in a game. They are exagerrated, but I've only seen HL2 and Doom 3 (which uses a lot of character animation if you look closely) rival the character animation in WoW.

I think the graphics in WoW are amazing. They have a unique style all there own. They don't look bland like a Doom 3 or Everquest 2 style graphics. I'm surprised you don't atleast appreciate the colors involved in WoW.

Most importantly, get your character above lvl 10. You can't even comment on a class until level 10. Most classes don't even get their signature abilites until level ten. In addition, at lvl 10 you get your talent points to spend which is a nice way to customize your character.

If you still don't like WoW, I suggest you go back to EQ 1. The people who prefer EQ2 to WoW are exceedingly rare. Honestly it sounds like you want WoW to be Everquest for you. WoW isn't Everquest, it is something so much more "refreshingly" fun.

PS - it sounds like you are having video problems with WoW as well. You might want to play with your settings. WoW is silky smooth most of the time (unless I'm doing a 40 man raid on the crossroads :p).

VirusType2

13-03-2005, 07:20 AM

yea the characters look great. a few of the women are really nice looking.

I made a warlock and invited another level 1 warlock female human to my group and she proceeded to start dancing for me..
then i asked her how, she told me.. so i was dancing with her- it was awesome dance moves-alot of variety.

then she started to take off her clothes while she was dancing

at first I was like - wow, nice chest.

then she went all out- stripping all the way down to her underwear while dancing! It was like she was strip teasing me!!! man they really put all the polygons in the right place!

I said "wow"

I said"puts money there"

and her character actually started laughing

it was a blast

let me tell you it reminds me of KOTR were once the princess was in my team she was always in her underwear- she didn't wear armor anyway - just a robe that offered no protection.

anyway - beatiful character models! :naughty:

BRODIEMAN2k4

13-03-2005, 07:32 AM

http://img209.exs.cx/img209/3459/captainnaked5mk.jpg

VirusType2

13-03-2005, 08:44 AM

:dozey: :eek: rofl :D :o :hmph: :D :laugh: :rolleyes:

seinfeldrules

13-03-2005, 09:21 AM

PS - it sounds like you are having video problems with WoW as well. You might want to play with your settings. WoW is silky smooth most of the time (unless I'm doing a 40 man raid on the crossroads ).

Yeah its smooth for me too, unless I'm suffering under a 40 main raid at the XR that is! You damn Alliance cant give me a moment of peace. :laugh:

Alig

13-03-2005, 10:14 AM

Well....you know what they say, everyone to his own.

WoW for me really is WoooooooW because its everything a game should be and EQ2 just...isn't. Plus i don't have time to spend so much time getting a half high level in EQ2, i can barely play WoW anymore. My hunter is level 26. The graphics for me are something different, i didn't expect HL2 realism or Doom3 CGI style graphics, i expected a cartoon type of graphics and they really work for the game, unlike EQ2's unpolished graphics that you require a super computer just to turn up, and they still don't looke very good.

WoW for me is smooth as butter unless i'm with a massive group of people or flying into a a main city on a bird (bat ...etc..) and i run it at 1280x1024 max settings 6xaa/16xaf with my X800 pro.

Neutrino

13-03-2005, 10:34 AM

I'd suggest getting to a bit higher level before doing anything. I enjoyed the game from the very start, but I didn't really start having a blast until around 30 to 40 when I could start to join raids and get in on all the PVP action.

Edit: Hi Blah :)

kungfucheez

13-03-2005, 12:38 PM

Meh, I skipped over WoW, nothing interesting for me in it to be honest. Guild Wars is more up my alley,

KagePrototype

13-03-2005, 03:29 PM

http://img191.exs.cx/img191/6677/16au.th.jpg (http://img191.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img191&image=16au.jpg)

http://img153.exs.cx/img153/5184/27ia.th.jpg (http://img153.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img153&image=27ia.jpg)

http://img153.exs.cx/img153/32/35ys.th.jpg (http://img153.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img153&image=35ys.jpg)

How is this not beautiful? :)

jimbo118

13-03-2005, 03:33 PM

these type of games interest me,a whole big world etc to explore etc,they look like they have insane longevity but the whole ogre,trolls etc isnt really my thing ;(

Lemonking

13-03-2005, 03:38 PM

WOW kicks major ass
I love it

Jimmeh

13-03-2005, 03:52 PM

Still haven't installed this yet - it's just sitting there collecting dust. I'll install it during "Study" leave, I'll have plenty of time to waste then! :D

blahblahblah

13-03-2005, 04:00 PM

Sieg

13-03-2005, 04:09 PM

If that guy dares to come to a town near me,I'll be the first one to blast his ass with a shotgun.

Anthraxxx

13-03-2005, 04:32 PM

Bleh. Soooo much EQ2 bashing.. ;( It makes me sad to see the people in this community constantly bashing a great game just because it's not the type of MMO that they prefer to play.

The thing that I think sets most people off of EQ2 is because it is meant to be there for the long haul. EQ2 requires time and commitment if you want to play the whole game all the way through(which will never happen because they keep adding a rediculous amount of content). Also, WoW is much more newbie friendly. So the people that have never played a MMO or other casual gamers can easily get into the game. The action is fast paced and it is extremely easy to level.

As far as graphics goes, I don't think that WoW can get any better. All of WoW's graphics is mostly simple textures, yet the rich and vivid design of the world makes it very pleasing to the eye. The simple textures also helps keeps framerates smooth. EQ2's graphics are extremely detailed, and while the world design doesn't exude the art and style that WoW does, EQ2's world does have it's own charm. For now, it will take a super computer to run eq2 with maximum graphics settings. This is because SOE is planning for the future. As graphics technology advances, they'll keep making the graphics better and better...

I love both games, and regularly play both. It just so happens to be that EQ2 is my personal preference of MMO.

simmo

13-03-2005, 05:01 PM

Still haven't installed this yet - it's just sitting there collecting dust. I'll install it during "Study" leave, I'll have plenty of time to waste then! :D

ZOMG!, that must mean you have a friends key spare ? :O:O

VirusType2

13-03-2005, 05:17 PM

Im starting to love WoW, I played it for about 20 hours straight and I'm about to fall asleep.

I made a priest and got to level 8 was in a team and finished like 3 quests in about an hour - couldn't have done it without help.

The game is great. The thing I'm trying to say . I don't know which game came out first but the games are SO similar that you would think that Wow IS Everquest. The game play mechanics are almost exactly alike EQ. Even the layout of some parts of the maps is like de ja vu. EQ with more toony graphics.

By the way I fixed the video choppy problem by reducing the distance draw in. now its smooth

In certain areas of the game where they decided to make things round but they turned out hexagons. it detracts from the graphics. And the trees just look so toony. ah well.

\_/ <------ WoW circle, real circle --------> O

RANT: The thing I always say "don't make something a circle or rounded unless you absolutely have to. Try to reduce the polygons not only for performance, but becuase you can't make something round with polygons unless u use like a million. It just looks like shit. A hexagon. I don't mind square rooms - hell thats just like real life. thats what makes the game run smooth.END RANT

The thing I miss about everquest is the training points that you can apply to your stats every level.

The thing I don't miss about everquest is that the quests can be REALLY HARD. I mean just don't even bother hard. U wont see me helping anyone on that game

so far I haven't encountered a quest that couldn't be completed by delivering something to someone or by sheer power- when your level is high enough or when u are grouped well.

EQ quests are so difficult to find where you need to go. To me its just bad directions. Thats my biggest gripe about EQ

In Wow there are so many quests but they are usually aranged so they are "on the way" finish 2 or 3 quests in one trip.

I remember EQ had you backtracking which blows and they would always say.. "one more thing before I give u reward - walk all the way to the other side of the world and kill some leet mob"

Anyway the priest is cool- in EQ i never played a healer. I had one of each of the 4 melee class levels 30-50 and a couple casters around level 30.

I kind of like being a priest. I saved my M8's life a few times from some viscous creatures. I need sleep bye

KagePrototype

13-03-2005, 05:22 PM

The thing I miss about everquest is the training points that you can apply to your stats every level.

For god's sake, can you PLEASE just play a character to LV10!? :p You get talent points and can upgrade certain skills and stats depending on class.

Jimmeh

13-03-2005, 05:27 PM

ZOMG!, that must mean you have a friends key spare ? :O:O

Dude! Sorry if I knew a week a go I would've gave it to you! :( Already gave it to mate of mine :o

Sorry man :(

VirusType2

13-03-2005, 05:27 PM

KagePrototype

13-03-2005, 05:31 PM

i know but in eq u get them every level gives u something to go for

Same with WoW, you just have to get to lv10 first. :p

What about wow?

I remember playing a new character after playing my Warlock to lv24, and I was pleasantly suprised as to how fast I was levelling up. It was so easy in comparison! At lv24 all I had were elite quests I couldn't do. At lv1 I levelled up 3 levels in 20 minutes :D

KoreBolteR

13-03-2005, 07:17 PM

wow = turns you into an extreme introvert.

ktimekiller

13-03-2005, 07:59 PM

i say its all easy until 40, lvl 50 rogue myself here

StardogChampion

13-03-2005, 08:00 PM

If you do the quests in WoW you will level up easily. You're probably just going around killing everything you see.

dorrus

13-03-2005, 08:31 PM

http://img233.exs.cx/img233/6489/wowscrnshot031305110154copy7do.th.gif (http://img233.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img233&image=wowscrnshot031305110154copy7do.gif)

Whirlwind weapon at lvl 34. You know how much fun I'm having. :)

By the way, as long as you know what you are doing, leveling in WoW is easiest and fastest of all MMOs I've played so far.

blahblahblah

13-03-2005, 08:41 PM

BTW i edited my last post alot

yea i know .. levle 10 ;)

i know but in eq u get them every level gives u something to go for

but the main reason I wanted to post is to say....

It takes forever to level up in WoW

i know i need to stick witha character but in EQ I could get to level 6 in like 15 minutes... of course it gets longer and longer every level after.

What about wow?

EDIT: I made a female human priest BTW. and I was tanking the level 2 and 3 mobs in my underwear . everyone would stop and stare. lol The priest is sexy as hell the way she stands to cast the holy spells... Highly recommended. PLus i need a twink(free items characer ) ;) :E (gold digger)

I think its safe to say, just cancel your subscription. You don't understand WoW enough to enjoy it. Frankly you complain about everything. If its not like EQ you complain about it, and things that are like EQ you complain about those things as well. Its obvious you don't like it so quit. That means less lag for people who want to play and enjoy the game.

Really, just go back to EQ and do yourself a favor.

PS - WoW has the fastest leveling process of any MMORPG.

staticprimer

13-03-2005, 08:47 PM

I like WoW, but I've got a lock-up problem that just wont go away, it just randomly locks up, which really sucks if I'm in combat at the time. The thing is, I had this problem a couple of months ago, and I solved it with a defrag and reinstall. Then, with the new patch which did absolutely nothing for me this problem came back. I've tried the defrag and reinstall, changing drivers, deleting the config folders, everything they suggest. I am not the only one who has had this problem after the patch, however. If I am to pay $15/month this is completely unacceptable.

VirusType2

13-03-2005, 09:11 PM

You know how I said it was really choppy? Well I just noticed that the factory setting for vertical sync was on. ERG . so I had vertical sync on. DUH. and I reduced the distance draw-in and now its very smmmmooooth.

I think its safe to say, just cancel your subscription. You don't understand WoW enough to enjoy it. Frankly you complain about everything. If its not like EQ you complain about it, and things that are like EQ you complain about those things as well. Its obvious you don't like it so quit. That means less lag for people who want to play and enjoy the game.

Really, just go back to EQ and do yourself a favor.

PS - WoW has the fastest leveling process of any MMORPG.

Aw stop. Im merely noticing the differences after everyone on the forum told me it blew EQ 2 out of the water. There are things I like better on both. Its much slower to level up for me. I played non stop for like 20 hours and got only 8 levels and I was doing the quests. granted I was soloing but thats slow. well I just hit level 9 , now im going to sleep.

Im addicted to this game man, you need to keep up with my latest post before you reply. After all I had only played the game for a few hours with screwed up video settings and didn't even know the controlls the first couple times I posted.

dorrus

13-03-2005, 09:16 PM

You know how I said it was really choppy? Well I just noticed that the factory setting for vertical sync was on. ERG . so I had vertical sync on. DUH. and I reduced the distance draw-in and now its very smmmmooooth.

Aw stop. Im merely noticing the differences after everyone on the forum told me it blew EQ 2 out of the water. There are things I like better on both. Its much slower to level up for me. I played non stop for like 20 hours and got only 8 levels and I was doing the quests. granted I was soloing but thats slow. well I just hit level 9 , now im going to sleep.

Im addicted to this game man, you need to keep up with my latest post before you reply. After all I had only played the game for a few hours with screwed up video settings and didn't even know the controlls the first couple times I posted.
Even a priest can hit level 10 in 3 hours, tops.

If you just got the game, play the damn game instead of posting here. Hell, I was playing it the whole day when I first got it.

Eg.

13-03-2005, 09:41 PM

ok so im installing it, all i have is the game. they guys at the store said all i needed was the game to create and account, is that true?

simmo

13-03-2005, 09:44 PM

ok so im installing it, all i have is the game. they guys at the store said all i needed was the game to create and account, is that true?

Yup, pretty much...you also need some form of payment info to succesfully get an account.

Btw, did you get a friends key with your package ? :D
(Sorry, i'm asking everyone this ;))

Baal

14-03-2005, 06:43 AM

I have a 46 Human Warrior and a 40 Night Elf Rogue...and my god am I having fun with this game.

Rogues are so fun to play. At level 40 I got safe fall, so I had just finished doing Scarlet Monastary and I decided to go to STV. I took the Goblin Zepplin to Grom'Gol and I jumped off before it got there. It was exciting.

If anyone is just starting, I recommend creating a rogue. So...fun :)

Can't wait until I get to level 60 and I can just stealth into horde cities or whatever :o

VirusType2

14-03-2005, 08:42 PM

Is there any character that should be good for unarmed combat?

I was a priest but I'm thinking from EQ caster classes couldn't swing as many times in 1 turn.

During normal attacking, when you get to a certain level can you strike more than once?

for example on EQ when you get to level 20 you swing your weapon 2 times and when you get to level 35 you swing your weapon 4 times for each turn

Does WoW incorporate something like this?

What levels can you begin?

Are their any classes that can't double and quad and attack?

For example in EQ the casters, paladins, and shadowknights could hit twice after level 20 but never learn to attack 4 times in one turn. Only the melee classes like warrior/rogue/bard/ranger/monk

In everquest they have a monk class that can fight hand to hand really well, along with kicks

I want to pick a character that can fight hand to hand combat well and be able to hit 4 times per turn-assuming that is possible. is it?

Also I read in the instructions that there are Fist Weapons in the game - Will they be able to strike 4 times still?

Warbie

14-03-2005, 09:07 PM

I want to pick a character that can fight hand to hand combat well and be able to hit 4 times per turn-assuming that is possible. is it?

It sounds like you want EQ ;)

There is hand to hand fighting in WoW, I haven't tried it yet though (more or a knife man :))

They're different games, and have different rules. Time to forget EQ and see what WoW has to offer (trying to make one emulate the other isn't going to work)

VirusType2

14-03-2005, 09:24 PM

Well I was fighting without a weapon for a while and your unarmed skill raises and u get better but I wasn't really doing much damage.

It says in the instructions the priest may fight unarmed and the rogue does well with Fist weapons later in the game.

But i assumed the rogue needs a short sword/dagger to be able to backstab and most of his moves would be useless.

The only ones I saw that might be good were a paladin or mage, or posibly a priest - not sure about hunter or warrior.

I guess you don't see anyone going hand to hand.

I assume if u continue to use it for the whole game you will become very good without a weapon.

Any ideas which character to go with. Im waiting for someone to tell me how many times u can strike with some of the characters so I know which one to play with.

Thanks!

Foxtrot

14-03-2005, 09:25 PM

I was a priest but I'm thinking from EQ caster classes couldn't swing as many times in 1 turn.

There were no turns in combat, you swung as fast as your weapon and they swung as fast as theirs, no turns.

VirusType2

14-03-2005, 09:33 PM

There were no turns in combat, you swung as fast as your weapon and they swung as fast as theirs, no turns.

If you attack a monster with just plain old attack, there is a time in between each swing. This is on a timer (your turn)

I was wondering if there are combos that will allow you to strike more than once per turn, once you get higher level?

your specials activate instantly, or as soon as have finished your current attack- this is governed by weapon speed.

By the way I realize that weapons have for example 1.2 damage per second, and that speed the factor here

Mr. Redundant

14-03-2005, 09:40 PM

If you attack a monster with just plain old attack, there is a time in between each swing. This is on a timer (your turn)

that is true for PVE, as no matter what you do, you will get your attack, and the mob will get theirs... however

in PVP a weapon attacks at a certain speed, although you could call it a turn, in essence you can attack multiple times before they attack, simply by moving around in combat...

for instance regardless of how slow my weapon is, I can whack you, ran backwards frost you, whack you from behind etc, before you get 1 hit in on me.

turns would indicate that no matter what you do, each person would get their's in, and this is not the case.

which IMO is awesome, since I continually take out mutliple people, and higher (much higher in some cases) level people than me, simply because I can get behind them constantly.

silly non-fps people... using a keyboard to turn LOLz @ them :D

(again, moving around in PVE is pointless, get to dancing in PVP!)

KagePrototype

14-03-2005, 09:50 PM

VirusType2, sounds like you want to play the Rogue class. The Rogue is best for pure damage output when it comes to melee, and is also blindingly fast due to it's nifty combo abilities. :)

VirusType2

14-03-2005, 10:25 PM

VirusType2, sounds like you want to play the Rogue class. The Rogue is best for pure damage output when it comes to melee, and is also blindingly fast due to it's nifty combo abilities. :)

Yea I made a rogue about a half-hour ago and they are devastating. with their specials and combo finishers they attack repeatedly.

I just run up and stab them to death stabbing them like 2-3 times per second - or so.

Pretty cool.

I made a night elf rogue so I can be more stealth. Its cool how you can almost disapear with the rogue so u can rest

I had a level 50 rogue in EQ when the level cap was 50

PvtRyan

14-03-2005, 10:47 PM

(again, moving around in PVE is pointless, get to dancing in PVP!)

I've contracted the nasty habit to jump in the air with monsters if they're taller than me, I'm just a tiny dwarf and I want to hit them in the head with my hammer.

Alig

15-03-2005, 12:39 AM

You know how I said it was really choppy? Well I just noticed that the factory setting for vertical sync was on. ERG . so I had vertical sync on. DUH. and I reduced the distance draw-in and now its very smmmmooooth.

Aw stop. Im merely noticing the differences after everyone on the forum told me it blew EQ 2 out of the water. There are things I like better on both. Its much slower to level up for me. I played non stop for like 20 hours and got only 8 levels and I was doing the quests. granted I was soloing but thats slow. well I just hit level 9 , now im going to sleep.

Im addicted to this game man, you need to keep up with my latest post before you reply. After all I had only played the game for a few hours with screwed up video settings and didn't even know the controlls the first couple times I posted.

It does'nt take 20 hours to get 8 levels, especially not the first 8 levels for sure. In 20 hours i could get any class to 10+ easy.

VirusType2

15-03-2005, 01:41 AM

It does'nt take 20 hours to get 8 levels, especially not the first 8 levels for sure. In 20 hours i could get any class to 10+ easy.

Yea with the rogue I leveld up to level 6 in an hour. But the rogue is an assasin he doesn't waste any time killing you.

But with the priest it takes much longer, even though I was learning becuase I only had WoW 1 day.- but I found it more memorable and fun experience to use the priest.

oldagerocker

15-03-2005, 04:02 AM

Sounds like your finally having fun, keep grouping, you kill quicker, get more exp and more drops to sell or wear/use... and ofcourse in groups its more fun, watching each others back and taking out people/mobs higher level than you in pvp/pve.

Such an excellent game :D

VirusType2

15-03-2005, 04:05 AM

(again, moving around in PVE is pointless, get to dancing in PVP!)

Actually after reading what you said I made a rogue and tried evading some Enemies.

If you back up right as they begin a swing at you, you may have time to back out of the way.. depending on the Enemies speed of swing (sword, etc.)

I was using a rogue though. I think I read in the instructions that they move faster. -In combat at least it seems. I know they are great at low levels.

I think the fighting could be better. It's still a really great game to play. After spending 80$ for 3 months of it. Im going to play it alot for 3 months. Then I may look into Everquest II [EQ2].

I may just need to get used to it. Its not everquest. Its WoW.
Lets see how my opinions change over the course of 3 months.

Foxtrot

15-03-2005, 04:12 AM

If you attack a monster with just plain old attack, there is a time in between each swing. This is on a timer (your turn)

I was wondering if there are combos that will allow you to strike more than once per turn, once you get higher level?

your specials activate instantly, or as soon as have finished your current attack- this is governed by weapon speed.

By the way I realize that weapons have for example 1.2 damage per second, and that speed the factor here
In WoW you can use a spell(instant cast) in the middle of an attack(auto attack) and it will cancel the attack and the spell will go. Also the rogue is a good class to start off with, it is like having the game on easy mode.

VirusType2

15-03-2005, 04:29 AM

Foxtrot

15-03-2005, 04:32 AM

I never liked being a healer in EQ.

I liked it some in Phantasy Star Online (PSO)

Well I love it in WoW.

There is such a good feeling healing a teamate that got jumped and then peeling the mobs off of her/him.

Priests are great characters - in a team they are the heart, like shamans.
They are also the best duelers in the game, so they aren't pussies like in most other MMORPGs. Like most others though there is a lack of them.

Deadly200

15-03-2005, 04:51 AM

Get in a PvP server wait till 20 thats when the fun begins =D and im a 45 hunter i love him.

Mr. Redundant

15-03-2005, 04:51 AM

It does'nt take 20 hours to get 8 levels, especially not the first 8 levels for sure. In 20 hours i could get any class to 10+ easy.

my alt lowbie is lvl 11

use the
/played

command to see how long you have played the character for

took me 6 hours to get to lvl 11.

VirusType2

15-03-2005, 04:59 AM

Get in a PvP server wait till 20 thats when the fun begins =D and im a 45 hunter i love him.

I tried some PVP servers and i don't have a great connection in them! =(

I started at the top of the list. Thats where they put the Server with the Best Connection. Right?

(left out of PVP) =(

VirusType2

15-03-2005, 05:12 AM

Sorry for the double post.

I wanted to say that I like the warrior and the mage alot so far.

The warrior is just fun to use.

The mage has the best looking/sounding projectile and has the highest damage ablilities in the game.

Im still working out what character I want to take to level 60.

Burn

15-03-2005, 06:17 AM

Love her.
http://img94.exs.cx/img94/2972/warrior2vl.jpg
My Night elf warrior. Got a human paladin on the same server, but pretty low level so no point taking a screenshot as she is wearing basic starting stuff.

poo poo head

15-03-2005, 06:34 AM

http://img25.exs.cx/img25/8397/wowmount7wa.th.jpg (http://img25.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img25&image=wowmount7wa.jpg)

Looks good to me :E

Jintor

15-03-2005, 06:53 AM

I wish i had it... i've had to restort to using my friend's account to play with a Tauran Druid.

awww, look at the ickle druid disembowel plainstriders! W00t! yay!

WoW is "wow", anyway. At least they don't have to resort to calling Everquest II everwait II or something. Or Evershit II. Jeez, stupid ad.

(If you don't know what i'm tlaking about, there's an ad for EQII with letters going "why play WoW?" and then "WoW" is revealed to be "World of Waiting")

THe reason it's a world of waiting is because their subscriptions are going through the roof, stratosphere and cat.

"what cat?"

VirusType2

15-03-2005, 07:48 AM

Meh. Everquest ownz everything.

The only characters WoW has are the ones I never wanted to play on EQ. Are they going to release anymore classes/races?

They have a hunter but that is just like a ranger on EQ.

The mage is like a mixture of the EQ magician and EQ wizard.

The Warlock seems to be like EQ's necromancer. done that.

The game play is so similar though so I can jump right in and thrive.

WTT WoW for EQII PST

lol

the priest is like EQ's cleric with no armor and slow-cast heals... not sure how WoW ballanced for those short-comings

Ill probly use the hunter or something cuz i never did get far with my ranger on EQ.

EDIT: but i have discovered guns and Taurans . see next post

VirusType2

15-03-2005, 08:56 AM

I finally found my character!!

No more complaining from me

I picked a Turan Hunter.

His name is fitting for a Turan. "Descusting"

lol thats his name!

You can find me on Llane server

Hes got a rifle [cool] and he has cooler weapon animation then the dark elf i think.

HE is going to be LE33T!

Im going to level to 60. watch how fast I do it

Jintor

15-03-2005, 11:16 AM

Tauran are not Disgusting! Wah!

VirusType2

15-03-2005, 11:25 AM

Nice chain mail Ritz. Looks shiney,sharp and beatiful. All my characters have holes in thier clothes and shit. lol Im so pooor .

Someone put a gun in Descustings mail box OK? :naughty:

VirusType2

15-03-2005, 11:29 AM

Tauran are not Disgusting! Wah!

****in shit man! I spelled it wrong! That bites. Im never going to get anywhere in this game if I keep starting over. LMFAO. :(

Thanks for pointing that out... boy I would be pissed if i got alot of levels. :sleep:

Don't create a character when u have a buzz, you will spell the name wrong and begin to think that its right.

Alig

15-03-2005, 06:23 PM

Stop comparing WoW to EQ and nit picking things out that 'EQ' has...or just quit WoW and go back to a dying game known as EQ1 and 2.

Oh and while all this spelling correction is going on, its "Tauren" not Tauran or Turan :P. I play a Tauren Hunter, currently only level 27. Hunters rock for gameplay and PvE. /moo

Sorry for the double post.The mage has the best looking/sounding projectile and has the highest damage ablilities in the game.

Not really. The Hunter has the highest 'overall' DPS. The Mage is good for DPS right at the start of attacking and quickly slows down, the Hunter has amazing DPS with the pet combined at range all the time. However, PvP is a different matter..A Hunter will kill any class in PvP if they don't move into melee range (then there DPS quickly goes to shit), except maybe a mage, depending how clever they are.

simmo

15-03-2005, 06:25 PM

***K yeah :D

My new best friend Eg gave me a friends key :D...just wondering does it ever expire ?, cause i'm gonna reg with it this Saturday cause i'm on holiday for 2 weeks:)

Also, I dont have to enter any payment info for this trial do i :(

Alig

15-03-2005, 06:31 PM

It lasts 10 days so don't register it before your holiday :P

Yeah you need to enter a form of payment to register. After the 10days are up you need to go out, pay £30 for WoW and carry on from where you left off (with the 10 day account characters - or new ones if you wanted to).

Letters

15-03-2005, 06:33 PM

Yeah, have fun with the hunter... I know I am... I started one on one of the new servers (Firetree) a little over two weeks ago and I'm level 48 already... have to post a picture of her later when the maintainence is over. ;)

simmo

15-03-2005, 06:45 PM

Yeah you need to enter a form of payment to register. After the 10days are up you need to go out, pay £30 for WoW and carry on from where you left off (with the 10 day account characters - or new ones if you wanted to).

Anyway to bypass the payment info ?, I heard you can by using a gamecard or something ? :)

Mr. Redundant

15-03-2005, 08:21 PM

I love my character too :) (well the one Im currently playing)

http://img219.exs.cx/img219/7461/gasva25du.jpg

http://img219.exs.cx/img219/1971/wolf13kk.jpg

http://img234.exs.cx/img234/9378/wolf22wv.jpg

Mr. Redundant

15-03-2005, 08:56 PM

last two, just looked nice :)
http://img173.exs.cx/img173/5207/fr239kv.th.jpg (http://img173.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img173&image=fr239kv.jpg)
http://img179.exs.cx/img179/4504/fr1225lg.th.jpg (http://img179.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img179&image=fr1225lg.jpg)

Letters

15-03-2005, 10:31 PM

Here's Hippy! :P (with pet, Spoonman)

http://www.missouri.edu/~jpg9p4/hippy.jpg

Sparta

16-03-2005, 12:10 AM

Foxtrot

16-03-2005, 01:10 AM

Quite true. I'm a lvl 36 Hunter and i took out a lvl 40 Rogue the other day when i caught him with a trap that stuck him just inside of my ranged attacks. I got something like 110 DPS. It was great.
Hunters suck in PvP, that is about the only class you exceel against, but you still have nothing to stop him from getting to you unless you are really good at kiting. My brother is a hunter and I am a Shaman, that should make for a very good combination in PvP.

PvtRyan

16-03-2005, 01:20 AM

When you have Blessing of Protection and Blessing of Freedom as a pally it isn't hard getting into melee range of a hunter. I dont think their pets are very effective either, they're good to distract NPC's and let it take the damage, but players simply ignore them.

VirusType2

16-03-2005, 04:33 AM

I've been using a Pally (Paladin) all day and They are great tanks. I took on 4 bandits the same level or 1 level lower than me at once no problem. they do good damage and don't take alot of damage.

A little boring so far becuase they don't have any extra melee attack abilities.

Darkknighttt

16-03-2005, 07:43 AM

100th post!!!!!!!!!!! owned!!!!!!!!!!

EDIT: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

VirusType2

16-03-2005, 08:34 AM

Spam?

The paladin gets a buff (temporary stat improving ability)that among other positive effects, it boosts attack speed 40% for 30 sec.

Most his spells are instant cast.

I can charge into anywhere knowing that I have his armor and abilities. He is a tough character.

This is a cool character to use - maybe my favorite so far

VirusType2

16-03-2005, 08:36 AM

Sparta

16-03-2005, 10:26 AM

Can someone please enlighten me as to how I can equip a weapon that has its weapon type in red?

for example, the paladin starts with a hammer.

I want to equip a 1 handed sword and a gun/rifle!

How?
You need to learn how to use the weapons at various weapon trainers. For example, you can't learn how to use Maces anywhere, its a class trait only. And Rogue's get the ability to dual wield at level 10. And so on

VirusType2

16-03-2005, 11:18 AM

You need to learn how to use the weapons at various weapon trainers. For example, you can't learn how to use Maces anywhere, its a class trait only. And Rogue's get the ability to dual wield at level 10. And so on

I haven't come across any weapon trainers yet. :(

What classes can dual wield?

Rogue
Warrior
Hunter

Paladin cannot?

Foxtrot

16-03-2005, 01:23 PM

I haven't come across any weapon trainers yet. :(

What classes can dual wield?

Rogue
Warrior
Hunter

Paladin cannot?
Paladins can not dual wield, you should be using a shield when you can too. That class is known as doing the least damage in the game.

VirusType2

16-03-2005, 05:07 PM

Paladins can not dual wield, you should be using a shield when you can too. That class is known as doing the least damage in the game.

Im familiar with the life of a tank from playing EQ obsesively.

They are to act as a meat-shield and absorb all the damage for the team at the same time doing the least amount of damage outside of maybe the shaman or priest - whos job it is to heal the tank.

My Paladin hit level 10 and I spoke with a weapons trainer so now I use 2 handed swords instead of unarmed.

He is strong at this level, his buffs are probably the best in the game for groups especially, and probably perfectly compliments a group with or without a healer.\

For example, at level 10:

- 20 minute buff for 55 more armor for everyone in the party
- 5 minute buff 21 more attack power for everyone in the party
- 30 second pally buff that increases attack speed by 40%
- ~60 HP heal to any player character.
- spell to make you invincable for 6 seconds but you cannot use any abilities or attack
- others...

Most of his abilities are instant cast, and have no cool-down, also they don't use alot of mana.

Now I just need to save up a little more and find the gun trainer so I can use my rifle to pull mobs with.

KagePrototype

16-03-2005, 05:20 PM

Now I just need to save up a little more and find the gun trainer so I can use my rifle to pull mobs with.

Paladins can't use guns.

VirusType2

16-03-2005, 05:25 PM

Paladins can't use guns.

Damn.

Can they use bows?

Or do they get an ability to pull with? How am I supposed to be a tank without being able to pull?

When will I get my taunt or whatever they call it in WoW?

IMO: Paladin is fun once you train to use a 2 handed sword or even a one handed sword

VirusType2

16-03-2005, 05:27 PM

Paladins can not dual wield, you should be using a shield when you can too. That class is known as doing the least damage in the game.

You can increase the amount of damage they can do by using a 2 handed sword. The thing is they are like a brick wall to take down.

They should be able to do pretty fair damage.

I like them cuz they probably have the highest armor class in the game or at least on par with a warrior

Bad^Hat

16-03-2005, 05:35 PM

Someone once said that you only get out of WoW what you put into it.

And... wooden weapon? Are you serious?

Letters

16-03-2005, 06:28 PM

Haha, Virus, for being a so-called 'EQ Vet', you don't really have a clue do ya? :P

Alig

16-03-2005, 06:52 PM

You can increase the amount of damage they can do by using a 2 handed sword. The thing is they are like a brick wall to take down.

They should be able to do pretty fair damage.

I like them cuz they probably have the highest armor class in the game or at least on par with a warrior

Paladins suck for damage. They are probably the weakest class for damage actually...the only reason they are good for pvp is because they are similar to cats, not 10 lives but 3 lives. I can't remember the spells but they have spells that give them protection against anything and can cast heal spells while its on meaning they can heal back to full...then after that they have another spell that does the exact same thing and heal back to full.

They have high armour but not as much as a warrior and they can't wear Plate armour till level 40 either. Highest Warrior on thottbot has 7250 AC and highest paladin has 6500.

Damn.

Can they use bows?

Or do they get an ability to pull with? How am I supposed to be a tank without being able to pull?

When will I get my taunt or whatever they call it in WoW?

IMO: Paladin is fun once you train to use a 2 handed sword or even a one handed sword

They can't use bows/guns what-so-ever.

They can't pull...they are shite for tanking, thats where warriors come in.

What do you mean taunt? my pet has taunt to take aggro from me even if i'm outdamaging my pet 3:1. Paladins don't have any taunt as far as i know like that (or if they do, it won't be that good...Warriors will have a good taunt if paladins have one to).

Tbh, paladins suck for the most part of pvp, only in actual combat they do well, but for going round killing people they suck. I was teasing a level 38 paladin with my level 23 hunter (when he was level 23) because i KNEW he'd never in a million years catch me yet he still chased me for about 5 minutes while i ran in circles.

PvtRyan

16-03-2005, 06:57 PM

I'm curious, if a Paladin does little damage per second, how much exactly does a Warrior do per second at lvl 35 with all damage enhancing skills on?

My profile btw:
http://wow.allakhazam.com/profile.html?68565

Alig

16-03-2005, 07:00 PM

I used to think "how can a warrior be much harder than a paladin as they both use melee weapons" but i've been told its the warriors spells/abilities that add loads to there DPS and there attributes are more towards the things that add to damage (i think).

Tupper

16-03-2005, 10:18 PM

The graphics are not very good

http://img51.exs.cx/img51/5778/WoWScrnShot_031305_125528.th.jpg (http://img51.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img51&image=WoWScrnShot_031305_125528.jpg)

http://img51.exs.cx/img51/9265/WoWScrnShot_031305_143038.th.jpg (http://img51.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img51&image=WoWScrnShot_031305_143038.jpg)

http://img51.exs.cx/img51/6200/WoWScrnShot_031305_143112.th.jpg (http://img51.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img51&image=WoWScrnShot_031305_143112.jpg)

You must have a horrible computer to say the graphics arn't very good.

B.Calhoun

16-03-2005, 10:55 PM

Not really. The Hunter has the highest 'overall' DPS. The Mage is good for DPS right at the start of attacking and quickly slows down, the Hunter has amazing DPS with the pet combined at range all the time. However, PvP is a different matter..A Hunter will kill any class in PvP if they don't move into melee range (then there DPS quickly goes to shit), except maybe a mage, depending how clever they are.

Mage easily outdamages a hunter. And the only slowing down of damage is done to not take the agro, which a mage can easily do if they nuke the mob. I have yet to see a hunter in a full party take the agro while everyone else is attacking it aswell(with or without a pet).

And im a very clevar mage myself and i can easily beat hunters. All i have to do is poly the hunter, kill the pet, jump with in 7 yards of the hunter and nuke him while keeping him forzen in place. When im 7 yards away from him he can melee me or shout his ranged weapon.

BTW im a lvl 50 mage.

VirusType2

16-03-2005, 11:21 PM

Haha, Virus, for being a so-called 'EQ Vet', you don't really have a clue do ya? :P

The characters classes are played differently when it comes to WoW and EQ.

I had all the characters between level 20-50. several at 35

In Eq the cleric was the highest armor class. and thier heals were instant heals, not charging heals like the priest.

So far the paladin and mage are the only ones that feel familiar, yet new of course they still have different abilities than EQ, but,

the fact remains.

paladin = tank. Priest = healer. The abilities are 100% different, but the roles are the same

just add 2 melee or casters or preferably a mix for perfect group.

Ask me anything.

Foxtrot

17-03-2005, 12:18 AM

Mage easily outdamages a hunter. And the only slowing down of damage is done to not take the agro, which a mage can easily do if they nuke the mob. I have yet to see a hunter in a full party take the agro while everyone else is attacking it aswell(with or without a pet).

And im a very clevar mage myself and i can easily beat hunters. All i have to do is poly the hunter, kill the pet, jump with in 7 yards of the hunter and nuke him while keeping him forzen in place. When im 7 yards away from him he can melee me or shout his ranged weapon.

BTW im a lvl 50 mage.
You can beat a hunter in PvP, grats, I don't think there is anyone who can't beat a hunter. My brother plays a hunter and at 36 he can get his DPS up to 70 and when he uses his ability that has a cooldown of 5 minutes he can get it up to 90, just wondering how it compares.

slider3005

17-03-2005, 02:20 PM

hunters are so very fun to kill blessing of freedom > wing clip then you die

Letters

17-03-2005, 04:17 PM

Mage easily outdamages a hunter. And the only slowing down of damage is done to not take the agro, which a mage can easily do if they nuke the mob. I have yet to see a hunter in a full party take the agro while everyone else is attacking it aswell(with or without a pet).

And im a very clevar mage myself and i can easily beat hunters. All i have to do is poly the hunter, kill the pet, jump with in 7 yards of the hunter and nuke him while keeping him forzen in place. When im 7 yards away from him he can melee me or shout his ranged weapon.

BTW im a lvl 50 mage.
Uhhh, why don't you just polymorph my pet and kill me? That's what the 50 mage I dueled last night did (I'm 50 as well). :x

And my pet can hold the aggro off of two mages nuking and a priest healing so I dunno what yer talking about there (specifally, talking about the giants before princess in Maraudon where my pet tanked one while the paladin held the other at bay until that one was dead). In fact, the only one who ended up getting a little too much hate was me, but a disengage or feign death fixes that... either your hunters have been dumb or your mages have, 'cause hate control is one of the hunter's strengths.

WaterMelon34

17-03-2005, 04:21 PM

Mr. Redundant

17-03-2005, 08:43 PM

WoW not wow?
look again..

feralas owns jo gfx box!
http://img12.exs.cx/img12/2724/fer18bq.th.jpg (http://img12.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img12&image=fer18bq.jpg)
http://img12.exs.cx/img12/7153/fer28lz.th.jpg (http://img12.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img12&image=fer28lz.jpg)
http://img12.exs.cx/img12/6065/fer30oy.th.jpg (http://img12.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img12&image=fer30oy.jpg)
http://img12.exs.cx/img12/3792/fer42be.th.jpg (http://img12.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img12&image=fer42be.jpg)

B.Calhoun

17-03-2005, 10:29 PM

Uhhh, why don't you just polymorph my pet and kill me? That's what the 50 mage I dueled last night did (I'm 50 as well). :x

And my pet can hold the aggro off of two mages nuking and a priest healing so I dunno what yer talking about there (specifally, talking about the giants before princess in Maraudon where my pet tanked one while the paladin held the other at bay until that one was dead). In fact, the only one who ended up getting a little too much hate was me, but a disengage or feign death fixes that... either your hunters have been dumb or your mages have, 'cause hate control is one of the hunter's strengths.
If your pet was holding the agro off two mages then there werent nuking it, casting spells doesnt mean they are nuking it.

And the reason i would kill the pet first is cause once the poly breaks its so annoying to try and cast a spell (although i could kill ya quick without even touching the pet, but thats not really dueling its more of an ambush in real pvp when you doint want to stick around for too long)

You can beat a hunter in PvP, grats, I don't think there is anyone who can't beat a hunter.

I was saying that because people were talking about being a clevar mage.

Letters

17-03-2005, 11:14 PM

If your pet was holding the agro off two mages then there werent nuking it, casting spells doesnt mean they are nuking it.
Ah okay... so my pet can hold aggro off of smart mages, not the idiots that 'nuke' it so they can commit suicide...

Alig

18-03-2005, 12:13 AM

Mage easily outdamages a hunter. And the only slowing down of damage is done to not take the agro, which a mage can easily do if they nuke the mob. I have yet to see a hunter in a full party take the agro while everyone else is attacking it aswell(with or without a pet).

And im a very clevar mage myself and i can easily beat hunters. All i have to do is poly the hunter, kill the pet, jump with in 7 yards of the hunter and nuke him while keeping him forzen in place. When im 7 yards away from him he can melee me or shout his ranged weapon.

BTW im a lvl 50 mage.

Mage don't "easily" outdamage a hunter, infact i don't even reckon they get close...i could kill 10 mobs of the same level as me twice as fast as any mage could of the same level. I was in a team in BFD yesterday and i could take aggro from anything in there quite easily over the level 30 rogue and level 29 mage while i was level 29.

Oh and all a hunter needs to do is crit strike you with Aimed Shot and you're dead instantly.

B.Calhoun

18-03-2005, 10:43 PM

Ah okay... so my pet can hold aggro off of smart mages, not the idiots that 'nuke' it so they can commit suicide...
Exactly.

Mage don't "easily" outdamage a hunter, infact i don't even reckon they get close...i could kill 10 mobs of the same level as me twice as fast as any mage could of the same level. I was in a team in BFD yesterday and i could take aggro from anything in there quite easily over the level 30 rogue and level 29 mage while i was level 29.

Mages outdamage the hunter BY FAR.

Now as to you killing 10 mobs faster than a mage, i completely agree. If your talking about killing 1 mob, a mage will beat you everytime. A mage completly depends on mana, which they have to use wisely because if they nuke one, theres nothing left to kill the other 9 (or anything for that matter) mobs.

A hunter on the other hand uses mana but also can still put up decent damage by just shooting its bow/gun, plus they have a pet which the mobs could attack while you regen some mana.

So yes, mages EASILY outdamage a hunter.

Darkknighttt

19-03-2005, 06:14 AM

don't worry. i played wow for abit and hated it. quit. then i started playing it again and loved it for some reason...........

Sparta

19-03-2005, 07:14 AM

Mage don't "easily" outdamage a hunter, infact i don't even reckon they get close...i could kill 10 mobs of the same level as me twice as fast as any mage could of the same level. I was in a team in BFD yesterday and i could take aggro from anything in there quite easily over the level 30 rogue and level 29 mage while i was level 29.

Oh and all a hunter needs to do is crit strike you with Aimed Shot and you're dead instantly.
No not really. A critical shot with Aimed Shot only gets close to 300 damage. but it also takes another 3 seconds to use so its almost not worth using.

Alig

19-03-2005, 10:50 AM

Sparta

19-03-2005, 11:02 AM

My bro hits for about 1400 damage one shot of aimed shot (critical shot) and that wasn't the level 60 aimed shot either. The level 60 one hits (critical) for around 1800 damage...which is most of a mages health at level 60.
Oh ok, i'm only at lvl 37, so....yeah that makes sense

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Thats "Opus" on the Crushridge server, don't forget it :thumbs:

Foxtrot

19-03-2005, 03:58 PM

My bro who is a 38 Hunter hit for 971 damage yesterday on an even con mob with aimed shot, his average crit seems to be about 700, as a Shaman my highest spell crit is 511(elemental specced too).

B.Calhoun

19-03-2005, 06:52 PM

My bro hits for about 1400 damage one shot of aimed shot (critical shot) and that wasn't the level 60 aimed shot either. The level 60 one hits (critical) for around 1800 damage...which is most of a mages health at level 60.
At lvl 50 my HP is around 2500.

It all depends on the gear your wearing.

Oh and BTW, incase you guys are getting the sense that i dont like hunters that isnt it at all, infact Hunter is one of my favorite classes. I have an Orc hunter but hes only lvl 14. I wanna just get my mage to lvl 60 before i start working full time on the hunter because i want to be all set for Battlegrounds. Although the hunters are going to be amazing in Battlegrounds IMO, so we will just have to wait and see what happens.

BTW once i gain another level (15) im going to tame one of those barrens hyena. What pets are you all using?

Alig

19-03-2005, 08:47 PM

I did'nt think you hated Hunters at all :P It's just my highest character i've ever had since i first started playing WoW in the beta's back last year so i'm protective over him, even though i know they are'nt a 1v1 class in PvP. They work best for raiding definately over solo.

I don't hate Mages either :P infact i've got a mage too but he's only level 13 and like you i don't wanna level mulitple guys at the same time (well...i do sometimes log him on to burn his double XP to nothing, then log back to my main). I'd rather level one and get good gear for my next one.

Edit/ Oh, my Hunter is using a Twilight Runner (a cat in north Stonetalon mountains) which is pretty quick chasing people down. Soon as i'm level 35~ i'm taming a Swamp Jaguar, a cat almost as fast as King Bangalash ...another cat, but level 46 elite, not even the 1000G mount can outrun it, my bro's 59 Hunter has it. Check http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-hunter&t=77035&p=1&tmp=1#post77035 it's a good thread for checking out fast pets.