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[Matt]
09-12-2004, 01:43 AM
I think everyones seen this model by now...

http://mathus.myby.co.uk/d2_prison_040004.jpg
http://mathus.myby.co.uk/d2_prison_040003.jpg

Its a Human thats half way through the process of bieng turned into a combine soldier in nova prospekt. On closer inspection it seems to me like the larynx has been replaced with an implant that looks very much like a speaker. No wonder they talk like they do...

pAiNtHeAsS
09-12-2004, 02:19 AM
huh
i never saw that
what part of the game is that at?

[Matt]
09-12-2004, 02:43 AM
its in nova prospekt. You see it on a monitor so i just no clipped through the wall to get to it.

Hackman
09-12-2004, 02:56 AM
You can look at the model with the model viewer. 'Soldier-stripped' I think it's called
I wonder why their guts are covered in that chrome/bronzy stuff...

marshmallow
09-12-2004, 03:19 AM
Then how does Barney talk like them?

rum
09-12-2004, 03:33 AM
good point

[Matt]
09-12-2004, 03:36 AM
Then how does Barney talk like them?

Combine police and combine soldiers sound very different.

Mechagodzilla
09-12-2004, 04:22 AM
You can look at the model with the model viewer. 'Soldier-stripped' I think it's called
I wonder why their guts are covered in that chrome/bronzy stuff...

The bulge on the side implies that they had new organs added in. :O

theace55
09-12-2004, 04:22 AM
talking with a gas mask on your face probably makes you sound a little different..

They seem to use radios a lot so thats probably where the beeping comes from.

f|uke
09-12-2004, 04:29 AM
I wonder what the thing on his side is for tho,. looks like its attached to one of his kidneys,..

DesertChicken
09-12-2004, 04:34 AM
^Perhaps it's the power plug where they use all those power stations and batteries to juice themselves up.

About how barney sounds like that:
Oh come on. You don't think Barney would be smart enough to notice the CP's talking differently(for whatever reason) and find a way to augment the sound?

Steve
09-12-2004, 04:36 AM
Now, it may just be me...but it seem to me that a trachaeotomy would be detrimental to a person, not make them a "super soldier".

Bing_Oh
09-12-2004, 04:52 AM
I suspect that the Overwatch are implanted with a communications device, thus the modifications to the throax/larynx. "Throat mikes" are quite common in military and specialized law enforcement units for their reliability, clarity, and ability to transmit with only minimal sound. This would seem like pretty standard equipment if you wanted to create a supersoldier.

As for how Barney got away with impersonating one of the Civil Protection, I think that they are unmodified (or very minimally-modified).

f|uke
09-12-2004, 05:27 AM
Now, it may just be me...but it seem to me that a trachaeotomy would be detrimental to a person, not make them a "super soldier".Detrimental?! A trachaeotomy is the gift of life! You just try smothering one of these super solders with a pillow, or drowning them in a toilet, and see how far you get! And the chicks love it! .. at least the freaky percing s&m chicks do. Hey, the world opens up to you when you have a hole in your neck!
:D

DSDchemE
09-12-2004, 05:33 AM
I doubt its just a speaker, chances are that they also don't need to breathe (in the same way at least). This would make sense considering normal humans can't breathe combine air. And when they've replaced your lungs and internal organs, how can you use your vocal chords anyway?

Steve
09-12-2004, 05:52 AM
Detrimental?! A trachaeotomy is the gift of life! You just try smothering one of these super solders with a pillow, or drowning them in a toilet, and see how far you get! And the chicks love it! .. at least the freaky percing s&m chicks do. Hey, the world opens up to you when you have a hole in your neck!
:D
Hmm....

"QUICK, NED! THIN OUT THEIR NUMBERS!"

"nnn...*click* thin out their numbers nnnnn"

[Matt]
09-12-2004, 12:32 PM
I doubt its just a speaker, chances are that they also don't need to breathe (in the same way at least). This would make sense considering normal humans can't breathe combine air. And when they've replaced your lungs and internal organs, how can you use your vocal chords anyway?

Could be a device to help them breathe in other world environments also...

[Matt]
09-12-2004, 12:35 PM
Out of interest ive just played through the start again and barney sounds different to even the civil protection combine he is disguised as.

slightlyretarded
09-12-2004, 04:15 PM
yah he does

Lemonking
09-12-2004, 04:24 PM
maybe they take transformed Humans offworld thats why they need that thing on their throat
I remember that Chick saying:MISSION FAILURE WILL BE TREATED WITH PERMANENT OFF WORLD ASSIGHNMENT....

jimmyjam
09-12-2004, 04:53 PM
their voices are due to their masks and radios
marines in hl1 talked very similarly

Smoke
09-12-2004, 05:16 PM
for the love of f**k! its a frikkin rebepl halfway to becoming a stalker! look closer and youll see, look at the bloody trousers! then look at a rebels!
THE SAME I TELL YOU! THE SAAAAAAAAAAME!!

Steve
09-12-2004, 05:36 PM
for the love of f**k! its a frikkin rebepl halfway to becoming a stalker! look closer and youll see, look at the bloody trousers! then look at a rebels!
THE SAME I TELL YOU! THE SAAAAAAAAAAME!!
No, you silly goose, they're not.

They ARE exactly the same as the trousers on the combine soldiers. :P

Dasparov
09-12-2004, 06:21 PM
No, you silly goose, they're not.

They ARE exactly the same as the trousers on the combine soldiers. :P
..ye....yeYEAH!!!...TAKE THAT!!!!!!

jimmyjam
09-12-2004, 06:23 PM
plus the model is called soldier_stripped
and it's not in the process of being converted... the animation (it's static actually, but it's under anims) is called autopsy

Mouldy Punk
10-12-2004, 04:10 PM
I found that on a monitor there aswell, I also found another person...thing...on the same monitor
http://img51.exs.cx/img51/4505/d2prison0400004dq.th.jpg (http://img51.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img51&image=d2prison0400004dq.jpg)
First one of the stripped soldier

http://img51.exs.cx/img51/980/d2prison0400013dd.th.jpg (http://img51.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img51&image=d2prison0400013dd.jpg)
Second one of an unknown model...

f|uke
10-12-2004, 05:06 PM
Second one of an unknown model...Thats the Stalker,. you see that one all throughout the Citadel.

happyhappy
10-12-2004, 08:47 PM
what do stalkers do?

Ennui
10-12-2004, 08:53 PM
slave work, humans not strong enough to be overwatch.

AzzMan
10-12-2004, 09:12 PM
In raising the bar, when it talks about the stalkers it says their organs have been removed and replaced with a saline solution because its easier to maintain. I'm guessing the same is the case with these soldiers, I imagine the thing in the side could be to drain the old stuff out and refill them with new fluid or whatever they need.

lord dubu
20-12-2004, 08:05 PM
The chrome bit around the waste reminds me of the carapace from warhammer 40k. It's a a kind of second nervous system that is surgically added to the soldier, and then it grows under the skin to make them into the space-marines... probably something similar is going on here.

The eyes are also chrome... pretty cool if you ask me. I gotta whip up a fan-art demasked soldier now.