Bad news for france.

[Death.Trap]

http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/africa/11/06/ivorycoast.ap/index.html


This doesn't look to good.

Discuss.

[K e r b e r o s]

Where is the Ivory Coast located?

[ShadowFox]

West Africa. It is officially called the Cote D'avoir (or something to that effect)

And it is a very unstable area. This happens to a lot of nations, and Americans and Brits anyway should realize it isn't a problem unique to the French.

[Death.Trap]

Where is the Ivory Coast located?

http://us-africa.***********/ivorymap.jpg

[Hapless]

Africa. Odd that the French would be involved militarily somewhere they weren't wanted.

[chimpmunk]

West Africa. It is officially called the Cote D'avoir (or something to that effect)

And it is a very unstable area. This happens to a lot of nations, and Americans and Brits anyway should realize it isn't a problem unique to the French.
Cote d'ivoire actually. :farmer:

[The Monkey]

This is where Ivory Coast is located. (http://www.cnn.com/EARTH/9705/13/ivory.coast/ivory.coast.abidjan.lg.jpg)

[The Monkey]

Africa. Odd that the French would be involved militarily somewhere they weren't wanted.

I think they are there beacouse they signed some treaty that they would help their old colonies. Not sure though.

[CptStern]

Africa. Odd that the French would be involved militarily somewhere they weren't wanted.

no, the ivory coast has been a protectorate of france since 1842. They're independent but in 1961 they made an agreement with france to supply them with weapons and capital ...kinda like what the US was doing with saddam since the early 80's. France has had troops deployed in the Ivory coast since 2002

[Hapless]

no, the ivory coast has been a protectorate of france since 1842. They're independent but in 1961 they made an agreement with france to supply them with weapons and capital ...kinda like what the US was doing with saddam since the early 80's. France has had troops deployed in the Ivory coast since 2002

I was being facetious.

[hasan]

Just because france is opposed to the America invasion of Iraq doesn't mean they are peacefull hippies.

They just don't like the idea of the US controlling evrything in the world. that's all. otherwise, they're not that much different.

[ShadowFox]

They just don't like the idea of the US controlling evrything in the world. that's all. otherwise, they're not that much different.
They also had economic interests in Iraq. I'm no France basher, but I'd be willing to bet principle wasn't their main reason for opposing the war.

[MadHatter]

Just because france is opposed to the America invasion of Iraq doesn't mean they are peacefull hippies.

They just don't like the idea of the US controlling evrything in the world. that's all. otherwise, they're not that much different.


One word: Napolean. Though besides him, French military history doesn't compare to other nations.

[Kangy]

Nah, the gauls had Rome at it's knees once, which is impressive.

Still, anyone rebelling is screwed. If I were them, I'd lie down and wait for a French warplane to bomb my ass.

Response to question below:
The people of Gaul became the people of France

[Hapless]

One word: Napolean. Though besides him, French military history doesn't compare to other nations.

Napolean was Corsican. The last time the French had a great military was when a Corsican was in charge. By the way, does anyone know at what point in history Gaul became France, and how that happened? I've been looking for awhile now, can't seem to find anything.

[Kangy]

Anyway, France isn't going to lose against some militias with sticks and planks.

[CptStern]

Napolean was Corsican. The last time the French had a great military was when a Corsican was in charge. By the way, does anyone know at what point in history Gaul became France, and how that happened? I've been looking for awhile now, can't seem to find anything.

france was called gaul during the roman era, but became the Frankish Kingdom in 485 AD from which came the name France ...


now that I've answered your question maybe you can answer mine: why do americans despise the french?

I beat you shadow :E

[ShadowFox]

I'd say the Gaul families of the Merovingians and the Carolingians helped lay the foundations, and once the Empire of Charlemagne was split up, it was only a matter of time until Frankish decendants formed the French culture.

[gh0st]

why do americans despise the french?

because they smell like cabbage.

[CptStern]

that's dumb, that's like saying americans smell like ...tyranny :E

[gh0st]

that's dumb, that's like saying americans smell like ...tyranny :E
or canadians smell like whale blubber?

[CptStern]

HAHAHAHAH :upstare: ..never seen one, although I'd like to


edit: btw the obvious choice would be cheese, le fromage!!! as in:

Havarti: ...that sounds mildly french lets call it "American Havarti"

blue cheese: hmmmmm could be spelled "blu" lets call it "red white and blue cheese"

:E

[gh0st]

HAHAHAHAH :upstare: ..never seen one, although I'd like to


edit: btw the obvious choice would be cheese, fromage! as is:

Havarti: ...that sounds mildly french lets call it "American Havarti"

blue cheese: hmmmmm could be spelled "blu" lets call it "red white and blue cheese"

:E
youve never seen a whale? come to seattle, and see some. or dont, you might find the tyranny opressive.

i was making an austin powers reference with "cabbage."

by the way, nice sig, thats a good quote.

[CptStern]

youve never seen a whale? come to seattle, and see some. or dont, you might find the tyranny opressive.

thanks but I'll just head to bc


[QUOTE=gh0st]i was making an austin powers reference with "cabbage."

yes well that's all fine and dandy but we all know how you feel about the french: to you they're all croissant-eating-beret-wearing-american-hating-surrender-monkeys :P

[gh0st]

yes well that's all fine and dandy but we all know how you feel about the french: to you they're all croissant-eating-beret-wearing-american-hating-surrender-monkeys :P
i like the french people, i havent met many but those i have are very nice people. the french government is the words you used.

stern.. i must confess i was hoping that this thread had some news of france falling into the sea, or into a volcano or something.

[CptStern]

i like the french people, i havent met many but those i have are very nice people. the french government is the words you used.

stern.. i must confess i was hoping that this thread had some news of france falling into the sea, or into a volcano or something.

if france fell into the sea more than the just the government would die

[cronholio]

HAHAHAHAH :upstare: ..never seen one, although I'd like to


edit: btw the obvious choice would be cheese, le fromage!!! as in:

Havarti: ...that sounds mildly french lets call it "American Havarti"

blue cheese: hmmmmm could be spelled "blu" lets call it "red white and blue cheese"

:E

Isn't Havarti Danish? I'm just a dumb American, but a big fan of cheese. I could swear it's Danish.

[CptStern]

Isn't Havarti Danish? I'm just a dumb American, but a big fan of cheese. I could swear it's Danish.

silly american ALL cheese is american ..I was being sarcastic

[gh0st]

if france fell into the sea more than the just the government would die
yes but most importantly the government would die

[CptStern]

yes but most importantly the government would die

so you admit you hate all french, not just the government as you earlier claimed

[Hapless]

why do americans despise the french?


Perhaps it's their inordinate fondness for Jerry Lewis.. :eek:

[gh0st]

so you admit you hate all french, not just the government as you earlier claimed
i admit i hate the french government. i lied when i said i liked the french people. i have nothing against them, i just dont like them as a nationality.

[CptStern]

i admit i hate the french government. i lied when i said i liked the french people. i have nothing against them, i just dont like them as a nationality.

which makes you a bigot

[gh0st]

which makes you a bigot
everybody hates something, i bet even you do.

[CptStern]

everybody hates something, i bet even you do.

so you're openly admitting you're racist?

[Tr0n]

He is not being racist.

[PeeWee]

hate doesnt alwyas go to race, do you u know how to read?

[Korgoth]

Wow you guys are defending hatred for an entire country of people for no good reason other than "because they are french"...

And then you guys are the same ones who turn around and cry whenever someone bashes americans... Double Standard.

[MadHatter]

france was called gaul during the roman era, but became the Frankish Kingdom in 485 AD from which came the name France ...


now that I've answered your question maybe you can answer mine: why do americans despise the french?

I beat you shadow :E


I'm a yank and I love the French. France is a great place and Parisians are awsome. Instead of saying, "Why do Americans despise the French?", next time say, "Why do some Americans despise the French?" Sorry, don't mean to nit-pick, but I think the anti-French crap and the boycotting people like Bill O'Reilly do is so stupid and silly.

[CptStern]

I'm a yank and I love the French. France is a great place and Parisians are awsome. Instead of saying, "Why do Americans despise the French?", next time say, "Why do some Americans despise the French?" Sorry, don't mean to nit-pick, but I think the anti-French crap and the boycotting people like Bill O'Reilly do is so stupid and silly.

I've said "some" in the past :E. My comments were mostly directed at a certain type of american in our community

[gh0st]

so you're openly admitting you're racist?
race? being french is a race? is being canadian a race? i didnt think so. i cant believe everyone is all uppity about people hating the french. no one hates the french, its an urban legend. even i dont hate the french, im just trying to initiate conversation between myself and stern.

innervision.. there is no double standard. i just retaliate against countries (if you think im serious about the french in this instance, see above) who show such hate of my own. i dont even particularly like bush, im just willing to take the "unpopular" viewpoint, because its fun.

I've said "some" in the past :E. My comments were mostly directed at a certain type of american in our community
OMFG U RACEIST

[MadHatter]

race? being french is a race? is being canadian a race? i didnt think so. i cant believe everyone is all uppity about people hating the french. no one hates the french, its an urban legend. even i dont hate the french, im just trying to initiate conversation between myself and stern.

innervision.. there is no double standard. i just retaliate against countries (if you think im serious about the french in this instance, see above) who show such hate of my own. i dont even particularly like bush, im just willing to take the "unpopular" viewpoint, because its fun.


OMFG U RACEIST


Sooooo..... Basically... you're saying you're just debating and saying, "I don't like the French, they suck", for sh¡ts and giggles out of sheer bordem? Well, if that's the case, must be the end of this discussion.

[gh0st]

Sooooo..... Basically... you're saying you're just debating and saying, "I don't like the French, they suck", for sh¡ts and giggles out of sheer bordem? Well, if that's the case, must be the end of this discussion.
to tell you the truth i enjoy seeing sterns reaction.

[CptStern]

race? being french is a race? is being canadian a race? i didnt think so i cant believe everyone is all uppity about people hating the french. no one hates the french, its an urban legend.

oops sorry, Francophobia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-French_sentiment_in_the_United_States)

[gh0st]

oops sorry, Francophobia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-French_sentiment_in_the_United_States)
whatever wikipediea has to say (im not going to bother reading it, the title says enough) does not mirror my own opinion.

[Hapless]

C'mon, man, French bashing is almost like a National Pastime here in the States. It's good, harmless fun. I mean, just look at them, they have funny accents, they look down their noses at Americans, they have an annoying habit of surrendering without provocation, and they think Jerry Lewis is a comedic genius. There's just too much material there NOT to poke fun. Get a grip.
I actually would like to visit France, lots of history there.

[trizzm]

i don't see how this is "bad news for france". since when does the whole african continent hold a chance against france?

oh and- french people have a funny accent? here's the news: it's totally possible for a frenchman to learn english and sound like he was born in an english place with no accent whatsoever which is my case, or at least would be if i had the occasion to speak english outside the internet more often. but the opposite in impossible. don't believe me? go talk to someone who knows french good, and tell him to pronounce the letter U in french. then try to say it. just a letter. i bet that you'll give up before succeeding :)

maybe it's not impossible but i don't think i have ever saw an englishman without a huge-ass accent when attemping to speak french. however when we speak english it's barely noticeable that we are french.

YOU have a funny accent :)

by the way it's really alright that americans make fun of France. seems quite fair since the whole damned world now has America as it's primary joke target :D

[gh0st]

i don't see how this is "bad news for france". since when does the whole african continent hold a chance against france?

france sure had its hands full with trying to colonize africa back in the day, im fairly sure countries like egypt, or libya, or south africa, hold a decent chance against... france

[Hapless]

i don't see how this is "bad news for france". since when does the whole african continent hold a chance against france?

oh and- french people have a funny accent? here's the news: it's totally possible for a frenchman to learn english and sound like he was born in an english place with no accent whatsoever which is my case, or at least would be if i had the occasion to speak english outside the internet more often. but the opposite in impossible. don't believe me? go talk to someone who knows french good, and tell him to pronounce the letter U in french. then try to say it. just a letter. i bet that you'll give up before succeeding :)

maybe it's not impossible but i don't think i have ever saw an englishman without a huge-ass accent when attemping to speak french. however when we speak english it's barely noticeable that we are french.

YOU have a funny accent :)

by the way it's really alright that americans make fun of France. seems quite fair since the whole damned world now has America as it's primary joke target :D

I beg to differ, sir. I am from the Midwest, and have no accent. People from the northern states like Minnesota have an accent. People from the south, like Georgia, have an accent. I have none.
Trust me. :P

[Tr0n]

I beg to differ, sir. I am from the Midwest, and have no accent. People from the northern states like Minnesota have an accent. People from the south, like Georgia, have an accent. I have none.
Trust me. :PQuoted for truth.Even tho ours may sound funny....girls sure as hell like it! :thumbs:

[Spartan]

I will use my amazing psychic abilities to determine that in this thread, I will see kids from America crying: "omg teh freanch are teh suxorz lolllololl??+++"

... and I was partially right!