Game informer mag info (hl2 details) + halo 2 comparison.

[lans]

Ok, so let's do this in detail:

*rubs hands*

HL2

Concept-
Make the definitive PC first-person shooter, even if it took more than five years to make.

Graphics-
This is a very strong contender for the best-looking game made to date - HL2 is more fun to watch than a lot of movies.

Sound-
NPC's are well voiced, and the sound of a strider firing will make you know fear.

Playability-
Even issac newton would be amazed at the things this does with the physics, but the vehicles are a pain to drive.

Entertainment-
This does little to dissapoint the freakishly high expectations of the audience.

Replay-
High

Overall score- 9.5/10

Halo 2

Concept-
Take Halo, Then add a "2" and a whole lotta kick ass!

Graphics-
It may not be the best looking Console game ever made, but it is close.

Sound-
From Steve Vai's guitar heroics to the classic Halo chant, this soundtrack rocks.

Playability-
Silky smooth play control.

Entertainment-
To date, Halo 2 is the best FPS console game ever made, hands down.

Replay-
High

Overall score - 10/10

From the looks of it HL2 got OWNED by halo 2. :afro: :naughty:


Halo 2 and GTA got overall Game of the month (shared). HL2 got pc game of the month award.

BUT!

Game informer rated RTW 7.5/10, and I was like WTF! - it seems their general scores given to pc games were lower than those given to console games. I smell a bias...

FFS, they gave ratchet and clank 10/10 and ps2 game of the month. Other pc games scored in 7s or 8s.

They do not, however say that hl2 is not as good as gta or halo 2 or eligible for GOTY award (don't know who spread that rumour) - infact they rated hl2 one of their highest pc game scores.


Anyway facts about HL2 from the review:


- HL2 has excellent AI like far cry
- The animation technology is highly praised
- HL2 is very linear, there is always a "correct" or "best" method to solve a problem
- The barrel blowing effect is cool, the surface of the barrel gets deformed, then it catches fire and then blast with a satisfying sound. Wood splintering is cool
- physics. nuff said
- The ending is "admittedly awsome".

[BladeTurbo]

Yawn Yawn......

[CyberPitz]

yeah, something tells me bias...but really, it's just a bunch of opnions, much like yours and mine. Only difference is they get paid big bucks..we get jack shit :P Just remember what YOU think is better and the universe won't collapse!

[Sub_Lon]

Yawn Yawn......

zzZZZzZzZZzzZzzzZZzzz....

Does it matter which game is better? If you know HL2 will rock, then what's so bad about having a game that's even better? Seems like you'd be happy having HL2 and then a slew of shitty games. :rolleyes:

[DarkSonic]

Biased as crap. He says one bad thing about Half-Life 2 and one bad thing about Halo 2, yet gives Halo a 10. Also, I played the leak and drove the buggy around...I had no problem.

[bayaraa_us]

I have a subscription but when is that issue coming out?

[kakagar]

Cool thx, I don't think Halo 2 can compete with HL2 if you put them in the fps realm , with no pc or console divisions in the middle

[Bait]

Game informer rated RTW 7.5/10, and I was like WTF! - it seems their general scores given to pc games were lower than those given to console games. I smell a bias...


7.5 for R:TW???????

Thank you for sharing that with me. Know I realize this magazine has lost all possible credibility and its editors should be launched headfirst into a unit of Phalanx spearmen.

[lans]

Yawn Yawn......

Right, I think I should get some credit for typing all that stuff. :hmph:

Anyway bayaraa - I got my copy today in mail! :D

[Bolleh]

To date, Halo 2 is the best FPS console game ever made, hands down.

There is the answer.

[Harryz]

I'll personally judge which one is better.

[Sub_Lon]

Right, I think I should get some credit for typing all that stuff. :hmph:

Anyway bayaraa - I got my copy today in mail! :D

Yeah good job. I read it. However I think the little war going on between Halo2 and HL2 is pretty stupid. How about "Yay! Two great games!" ??? And what's the difference if some homo gives one a 10 and one a 9.5 ???????

[Yombi]

I'll personally judge which one is better.

same here.. oh and I normally listen to friends too, even though they have some bad taste sometimes.

[PvtRyan]

Game informer rated RTW 7.5/10, and I was like WTF! - it seems their general scores given to pc games were lower than those given to console games. I smell a bias...

Any magazine that rates RTW a 7.5 is not worth my attention.

[lans]

Yeah good job. I read it. However I think the little war going on between Halo2 and HL2 is pretty stupid. How about "Yay! Two great games!" ??? And what's the difference if some homo gives one a 10 and one a 9.5 ???????

Well I had to show that I'm a denizen of mainstream by saying

From the looks of it HL2 got OWNED by halo 2. :afro: :naughty:

;)

[killerteoz]

console review have EVER much high votes.... :afro:

[guise]

lol they didnt fault hl2 and still gave it 9.5 while giving a 10 to halo 2

they could have provided a reason at least

[ShadowFox]

I agree with the above person. Unless they changed the vehicle controls from the beta, then I think they are just fine.

[lans]

Reasons:

1) The buggy was hard to drive for them - they hate 1st person driving, and like 3rd person driving like a little game called...ahem - "halo"


2) Halo 2 rocks their world

3) halo 2 rocks their world

4) CS:S is great - but not of the same calibur of halo 2 mp.

[guise]

ah i see

the vehicles in halo are great, but hl1 wouldnt work with 3rd person views since were not allowed to see gordon :(

i wouldnt agree with them about general halo mp though, man i hate these freakin space age laser guns. gimme an m4 any day :E

[PoeticRocker]

Its not right!! HL2 deserves more credit!! (crying)

[bayaraa_us]

Any new screens on the Mag?

[Lobster]

What the fudge is game informer? people get so worked up over the opinions of one magazine!

[The Mullinator]

What the fudge is game informer?
A magazine that gave a 7.5/10 for Rome Total War. :x

[PoeticRocker]

well said

[lans]

Any new screens on the Mag?

Nah.

They are just different shots of the same stuff we've seen.

[Silent_night]

what did far cry and doom 3 get on gameinformer ? anyone?

[dkelly]

Regarding to the above post.
Am I the only one that absolutely hated Far Cry?

[BuBu]

Any mag that gives RTW anything less than an 80% should not be listend to

[CTTcrew_MrBlue]

Halo 2 does not deserve 10/10 , HL2 on the other hand...

And there RTW score is absolutly ridiculous.

[Dougy]

Any magazine that rates RTW a 7.5 is not worth my attention.

Agreed.

RTW is simply the best rts ever.

so unless the highest score a rts can get is 7.5 that review system is BS.

[UltimaGecko]

R:TW at the moment deserves a 7.5. It's not balanced very well and it's overly simplified for the masses (most of which wont buy it anyway...so they changed it for nothing). After a patch and some fixes - then it can be 90%+.



Otherwise, Halo 2 is not the same real playing genre as Half-Life 2 and they're both worthy of purchase (...so far...I mean, you can't really judge without buying them). Both will be good in respective play styles :p .



So, don't rely on reviews...because the reviewer isn't you :p .

[Sp00kyb0y]

I cant wait for Half-life 2, but sorry guys Halo 2 also looks hot.

Trailer>> (http://download.microsoft.com/download/2/9/7/297aa5f8-6ebe-498b-b0a5-bc692dc08cc8/Halo2_AlreadyHere_60s_Textless_1Mbps_640x480.wmv)

I don't know much about the review scores and all, but I watched a video the other day on what Bungie did for the MP component for Halo 2 and was quit impressed on the effort they put into it for the MP community for XBOX live.

What Valve is to PC, Bungie is to XBOX. They both support and listen to the MP community.

Halo 2 MP Documentary>> (http://download.microsoft.com/download/7/a/a/7aa5f21b-09d6-41b6-a647-b3f2da348db2/Halo2_Multiplayer_2mb.wmv)

The only reason I can see why Halo 2 scored higher is because of the MP effort that Bungie put into it. Check out the links above and decide for yourselves.

Both I'm sure have excellent SP modes. And I will be enjoying both games this month.

sp00ky

[BRODIEMAN2k4]

Well both games will be excellent
but yes GI is console bias

They gave Vice City a 10/10 which it didn't deserve


Plus Hl2 will have mods which will make it a hell of a lot more wirth it than halo 2, so HL2 will win in the end

Also, alot of the people i know only like Halo's MP. I've never met a person who didn't like HL

And, unlike Halo 2, playing online with HL2 is free

[RooM]

halo2 is the worst game ever thats all ^^
no gmaeplay physics copied from hl2 and nothing new all stolen from pc games
nuff said

[maximus0402]

I dont know if you guys know this but Game Informer is made by the gamestop company who sells games and is just about as big as EB. So are they biased??? hmm lets see...if they rate everything high, everyone will buy, and more money in there pocket from game sales. They suck

[**CENSORED**]

In my opinion, RTW deserved a 5.

[Envi_81]

I've been playin Rome Total War since it came out...

Im still hooked, it just takes a life time to beat all the factions...

I beat the Red Roman's which i think is called Juli...

and now im starting the Briton's (yes it's spelled "Brit"o"n's") campaign.

Rome should've gotten a 9/10; 7.5 just isn't deserving for such a high

quality / extremly packed with content game such as itself...

[Rocketman9mm]

just understand that GI is owned by the game store, gamestop. console games are a much larger product for them and console games always bring them more business. They have big lines, midnight openings for the big console games like GTA:SA and halo 2, and not for pc games. The console market is just larger. so hyping up the console games deliberately over the pc games are no suprise. Or the reviewer is just more of a console guy in the first place.

[Goombatommy]

I've never played and RTS game before, ever, nor was I ever interested in them. But when I played RTW, mother of God that game was great.

And someone stated it was unbalanced? Well, if you want to re-create history, do you think that there was balance between two sides on a war? Do you think theres balance between two sides of a war even now? Think about it.

But yea, I think each game (Halo 2 and HL 2) will have it's own strengths and weaknesses. This is why I don't listen to what critics and reviewers have to say, because they're paid to just bullshit half the time. I mean they make it sound as though as if Halo 2 has absolutely no flaws, which I'm sure it does.

Regardless, I'm buying both Halo 2 and HL 2, so I support both sides. I'm in no competition between the two.

[DarkSonic]

Aww, was driving in 1st person too hard for dem? Aww, poor them, their wittle brains just couldn't figure it out...oh wait, that's right, they drive a damn car in first person everyday! Gah...idiots...

[<RJMC>]

I played Halo2 and it deserves high scores

but I think Half-Life2 is better

but the things that worrie me is that they saud that HL2 is not so entertaining

[kaf11]

i know it has to be because of my loyalty to HL and HL2, but why do the halo 2 fanboys seem like they have blinders on all the time to HL2's greatness? i really detect a lot of denial about just how good of a game it is. im not going to single out this article, but halo fans are really defensive. i can admit that both games will be great in different regards, but not many halo 2 fans will.

edit: and another thing, every single reviewer ive ever read says that the physics in combination w/ the vehicles make for some incredibly fun driving and realism. imo halo vehicles blew.

[A True Canadian]

HL2

- The ending is "admittedly awsome".


Anyone else just get hyped by that? :bounce:

[<RJMC>]

Anyone else just get hyped by that? :bounce:

dam I hope that be true :bounce:

everibody bounce :bounce:

[<RJMC>]

Aww, was driving in 1st person too hard for dem? Aww, poor them, their wittle brains just couldn't figure it out...oh wait, that's right, they drive a damn car in first person everyday! Gah...idiots...

LOL...

[Yogibbear]

hmmm..... i really don't mind if halo2 gets a better score than hl2...

i mean he did say it was the best console FPS ever.... which brings me to say that they probably don't review their pc games v. console games... as it just isn't a fair playing field.... in anyone's honest opinion... you just can't compare them... yes hl2 is awesome...and yes halo2 will probably be one of the best xbox games ever... so it should get 10/10 compared to other xbox games... half-life2 on the other hand could only get a 9.5/10 as pc's are always improving...and there is always better.... it's sort of like trying to judge pc games by saying that there's this metaphorical brick wall that games try to get to... but they can never get there because by the time they are released that brick wall has already moved further away....whereas the xbox will always be just the xbox.....

[Ames]

Aren't the Half-Life 2 driving controls really close to BF1942? If so, those guys are idiots...:|

What about the custom controls? Too lazy to change them aren't they?

</crazy HL2 fanboy mini-rant>

[wayne white]

now someone plz tell me why,and dont give me that full inmersion bullshit,why the **** we cant see gordon in third person view riding the buggy like master chief?

[Ownzed]

now someone plz tell me why,and dont give me that full inmersion bullshit,why the **** we cant see gordon in third person view riding the buggy like master chief?

Because that would ruin the game and his character. Is isn't suppose to be able to be seen.

[Ames]

now someone plz tell me why,and dont give me that full inmersion bullshit,why the **** we cant see gordon in third person view riding the buggy like master chief?

Mod it in.

[Chiefi]

now someone plz tell me why,and dont give me that full inmersion bullshit,why the **** we cant see gordon in third person view riding the buggy like master chief?
Why does it matter?

Edit: Ownzed couldn't have said it better.

[Kazuki_Fuse]

HL2 will be better than Halo2. i read that review, and the reviewer sounds like the type of guy that gets excited easily by bright lights and loud noises. I've put at bet on at work for the game of the year between halo2 and halflife2, my poor foolish workmates, they hardly know what HL2 is. Easiest bet I've ever made.

[solideliquid]

For the record you DO get to see gordon! In Opposing Forces you see Gordon running into the portal at the end of HL1!

[B_MAN]

Yawn Yawn......
im sick and tired of these games being compared
they're both great titles in totally different realms
leave it be :flame:

[Homer]

Rome total war is a 10. anyone who gives it a 7.5 needs a knife to the eye.

[mrlangenakker]

yes leave it be and just be happy hl2 didnt something lower
plus you dont need to listen to reviewers to like a game, if you a game that is all that should matter

[el Chi]

zzZZZzZzZZzzZzzzZZzzz....

Does it matter which game is better? If you know HL2 will rock, then what's so bad about having a game that's even better? Seems like you'd be happy having HL2 and then a slew of shitty games. :rolleyes:
Here here.
Not to mention the fact that in that one singular magazine/reviewer/whatever, the distinction was 0.5; not to mention that they aren't yet on the same platform so why compare them?

[Asuka]

Game informer is mainly a console mag.

[Direwolf]

As a long time Game Informer reader, I know that you need to know who is reviewing the game. Their methods for PC and Console reviews are different, and the ratings are usually scaled differently. They even have seperate games of the month for PC and consoles. Compare HL2 to other PC games they've reviewed and you'll see that it comes out on top.

[Mountain Man]

To date, Halo 2 is the best FPS console game ever made, hands down.
Note the qualifier, "best FPS console game ever made". This may be true.

- HL2 has excellent AI like far cry
* shudder * I hope it's better than Far Cry's craptastic AI.

[Direwolf]

I don't know what it is. For some reason some people see the bad guys in FarCry do crazy stuff (I know I have). Others just see them stand around and run foward.
I believe they intended that to mean that they work as a team, are aware of their surroundings, are capable of complicated manuevers such as baiting and flanking, and are generally convincing.

[Wesisapie]

i finally got around to playing far cry with an air of optimism, but i played it and its lame.
too bad i was looking forward to it.

[Narcolepsy]

I really like Far Cry. I don't understand why members of this forum engage in such unceasing hatred of the game. It makes me worried that many are going to be really disappointed in HL2, for no other reason than the fact that it can't dance in circles on your desk while singing all five parts of a barbershop quartet while simultaneously curing cancer.

[ecchi]

I really loved Far Cry, too. What difficulties did you guys play on that the AI acted dumb? They're quite smart in Veteran, and I haven't even tried Realistic yet.

[Ownzed]

Farcry was ok.

[Eon Blue]

Consoles still dominate when compared to PCs - at the time, the original PlayStation did things a PC of similar age couldn't dream of (without spending a few thousand dollars).

The fact of the matter is, consoles appeal to a far broader audience. Halo 2 may very well be the best console shooter, and Doom 3 may be the most amazing looking game currently, but HL2 is just... beyond those limitations.

Am I right?

[trizzm]

absolutely eon blue. i'm 100% sure that half-life2 will directly inspire a shitload of great games for many years just like it's predecessor, i'd much like to see halo2 do that. the half life games are in a category of their own. no one has come even close of fitting in that category yet.

[BrimStone04]

i played halo 2 today and it was good, really good....but FPS will always be best on PC and i know hl2 will own it, glad i got a pc and xbox though

[phantomdesign]

10/10 is simply a blind fanboy bias. I admit I'm a Half Life 2 fanboy...but I'm certainly not a blind fanboy. The reason I am a fanboy is because Half Life 2 deserves my fanboy status. I might have been convinced if it was 9.7 to 9.5, but this is just stupid.

Frankly, I couldn't give Half Life 2 or GTA-SA a 100%, because that's not honest or realistic. I might give HL2 98% and GTA-SA 95% (due to Console graphics & bugs), but unless you pass out 100%'s regularly, it's rediculous to give a game that isn't super-innovative a 100% rating.

[Prone]

Wow, 7.5 for R:TW? Are we talking about the NEW GAME FROM ACTIVISION WITH THE FULL TITLE ROME: TOTAL WAR? Shame on my fellow journalists, we gave it somewhat 90ish (I didn't review it but played it)...

[phantomdesign]

About Farcry's AI - I was completly unimpressed. Maybe I just killed them too fast & didn't let them out of sight, which didn't allow them to do their 'impressive' manuvers.

Also, if you hide in a bush, often you can have the AI running INTO you & still not see you...and it didn't take long to figure out considering I discovered it while playing the demo for the first time.

[Spartan]

From the looks of it HL2 got OWNED by halo 2. :afro: :naughty:

How tragic.

ZzZZzz.....

[lans]

How tragic.

ZzZZzz.....

;)

I'm a denizen of mainstream, I'll say whatever microsoft brain washes me with.

[Bad^Hat]

- HL2 has excellent AI like far cry

There's your -0.5 right there ;)

Challenging maybe, but hardly impressive. Farcry I thought was a pretty cool game but it got old fairly fast. Besides the graphics, the killing, the vehicles, the vastness of it (pretty cool in itself) and to a much lesser extent the physics, there wasn't much going for it (IMO).

Hmm... I haven't heard a single bad thing about R:TW, I'd be interested to hear what they disliked about it to give it such a craptastic score.

[Bad^Hat]

Also... you harp on for 4 pages about how HL2 got half a point less than Halo 2, and they're the fanboys? :P

[Prone]

Someone said that the scales are different and that it was not directly compared to each other. So why care?

[pblse]

Do Halo2 even have a storyline ? As I remember from the first one (which I got tired of REALLY quick) it was just a lot of shooting all the time, like Quake or something.

I guess it all depends on what kind of games you like, to put Halo and HL2 in the same category I think is a bit missguided so I agree with Prone, why care ?

[Prone]

Do Halo2 even have a storyline ? As I remember from the first one (which I got tired of REALLY quick) it was just a lot of shooting all the time, like Quake or something.

I guess it all depends on what kind of games you like, to put Halo and HL2 in the same category I think is a bit missguided so I agree with Prone, why care ?

Not to be flamed but yes, Halo and Halo 2 have a story, also a story what happened before Halo (the game) started...pretty good aswell, many speculations aswell as it was with HL2

[pblse]

Well, it didnt feel like it had a story, it was just running and shooting but like I said I got tired of it so I didn't really play it through.

[Homercidal]

Holy Crap!! Halo 2 has Steve Vai playing guitar?? I need to buy me a Xbox NOW!! 8-O

I wasn't that impressed with Halo, but thought it was pretty fun. until I realized that I was walking down the same corridors like a hundred times.

I liked Far Cry, but haven't gotten that far in it yet. I've been goofing around with the vehicles and stuff.

I've checked out a review of RTW and was amazed! THAT looks like the best RTS ever made IMO. Anything less than 9 is just plain wrong.

[Prone]

How far did you all play that you say "same corridor"? The first part is on a spaceship then on Halo it all changes...just wondering.

[Homercidal]

I can't remember that i finished the game, but I got real far.

It seemed like at every section of the game, the corridors and much of the insides of the buildings look nearly identical. There's only a couple of themes and a lot of repetition in each.

Plus, I didnt' like that they had to place an arrow on the floor to tell you where you had to go. Like when they made the buildings, they knew in advance that you were going to be following a specific path.

Other than the same walls and floors and basically a lot of the same thing, I thought the game was pretty good.

Halo 2 Looks even better. I may have to buy it for my brother-in-law and give it to him after I borrow his Xbox and beat it.

[SoSorry]

Note the qualifier, "best FPS console game ever made". This may be true.


* shudder * I hope it's better than Far Cry's craptastic AI.
No. They then compared Half-Life2 directly to Halo2 and Grand Theft Auto and gave those two games game of the month, which means they considered those two better than Half-Life2

[Homercidal]

Even though Halo 2 may be the best thing to compare with HL2, it can't possibly even come close IMO.

Which reinforces my opinion that console players smoke more weed.

[A.I.]

Ok, so let's do this in detail:

*rubs hands*

HL2

Concept-
Make the definitive PC first-person shooter, even if it took more than five years to make.

Graphics-
This is a very strong contender for the best-looking game made to date - HL2 is more fun to watch than a lot of movies.

Sound-
NPC's are well voiced, and the sound of a strider firing will make you know fear.

Playability-
Even issac newton would be amazed at the things this does with the physics, but the vehicles are a pain to drive.

Entertainment-
This does little to dissapoint the freakishly high expectations of the audience.

Replay-
High

Overall score- 9.5/10

Halo 2

Concept-
Take Halo, Then add a "2" and a whole lotta kick ass!

Graphics-
It may not be the best looking Console game ever made, but it is close.

Sound-
From Steve Vai's guitar heroics to the classic Halo chant, this soundtrack rocks.

Playability-
Silky smooth play control.

Entertainment-
To date, Halo 2 is the best FPS console game ever made, hands down.

Replay-
High

Overall score - 10/10

From the looks of it HL2 got OWNED by halo 2. :afro: :naughty:


No. The reviewers got pwned by themselves. Just read again. To me it seems that HL2 was at least a bit more critically reviewed than Halo2 which. From the words you wrote down, I'd say that Halo2 review was written by a 6 year old kiddo (it's far less argumentative than HL2 review). Halo2 fanboys... :rolleyes:

[Raidea]

Holy Crap!! Halo 2 has Steve Vai playing guitar?? I need to buy me a Xbox NOW!! 8-O

Yea, you can download a clip of it from some Halo2 website...I did, sounded great!

Still, don't get many great guitarists playing soundtracks to games, it's pretty awesome that Bungie did, got to give credit where credits due!

[Alig]

Its a magazines opinion just their's is higher than mine would be.

My rating of Halo (i have no higher expectation of halo2 either) would be about 3/10, its an average/poor game IN MY OPINION! and you take his review of halo2 serious by saying "looks like HL2 is getting owned by halo2".

These HL2 Vs Halo2 threads are annoying to me....if your gunna make a Vs thread at least make one on a fair level like Halo2 Vs Breed (i played Breed and i think it plays almost identical to Halo1).

@Mountain Man - FC still has the most advanced AI to date until HL2 is released (that is, IF, HL2 has better AI). I'd like to see you bring up another game that comes close to most of FarCry's engine capabilitys, including AI.

[Liam]

Something doesn't add up... the game summaries are obviously tilted towards HL2 being the better game, yet the scores don't match.

The Halo2 summery almost sounds disappointed.

Concept-
Take Halo, Then add a "2" and a whole lotta kick ass!AKA: Halo Fixed?
Graphics-
It may not be the best looking Console game ever made, but it is close.Console games normally look pretty low res and crap compared to PC, so to be the best looking console game isn't that great a title. Oh wait, it didn't even get first.
Playability-
Silky smooth play control.
The controls are nice? Is that all he could think of? What about the Gameplay?
Entertainment-
To date, Halo 2 is the best FPS console game ever made, hands down.Well seeing as console FPS are rare, and there are only a few that are actually playable (Golden-eye of course), that's not exactly a great title to hold is it?

[Prone]

roflmao breed vs. Halo2...almost identical *chokes to death laughing, dies*

[Warbie]

This thread proves that screaming fanboys aren't limited to console forums (and then some)

[Alig]

roflmao breed vs. Halo2...almost identical *chokes to death laughing, dies*


....Exactly. My opinion and yet its laughed at because you think different yet you'd most probably agree if a big time magazine said the same thing.

And anyway, breed vs halo is probably about right. Breed was crap PC FPS and halo is (not my opinion) a good console FPS...they add up to the same thing.

Like liam said about playability "The controls are nice? Is that all he could think of? What about the Gameplay?" I don't look at gameplay as "oh its got GREAT controls...a must buy!" but then they talk about HL2's playability as "physics - something issac newton would be impressed with" YET AGAIN physics have got **** all to do with gameplay, sure they are more important than the controls of a game but it sure isn't a reason why i'll be buying HL2. I'm buying it because it promises to be a good game, not because its got a manipulator gun.

[Homercidal]

Yea, you can download a clip of it from some Halo2 website...I did, sounded great!

Still, don't get many great guitarists playing soundtracks to games, it's pretty awesome that Bungie did, got to give credit where credits due!

I got a sample from vai.com, but wasn't that impressed. The quality was pretty low so I'll try and find a better sample. It was a bit thin. The theme was cool, but really doesn't show Vai's ability in the least. I'm hoping the soundtrack has more. Plus, the list of appearances was very impressive. I might have to pick up the soundtrack. I think it could have been better if Vai had produced it himself

There's a few Vai CD that I'm lacking. Need to get caught up. Just about got all the Satriani now.

[silverstealth89]

true does it matter which game is better we all know that HL2 beats all
lol

[mutt]

:)

let those little 12 year olds go play halo, we all know which game is actually the best and will have the longest life :)

[Homercidal]

At least Halo 2 will have it's own MP.

[Warbie]

This is ridiculous - ppl are basing their opinions on the pros and cons that appear at the end of the reviews.

Even more ridiculous, ppl are comparing which is better out of two games they haven't played yet.

And let's leave Breed out of this - it's complete shite .... by anyones standards. (you may not like Halo ....... but feeling it's on par with Breed puts you in the vast minority. I for one have played every decent PC shooter since Wolfenstein - and persoanlly think Halo is up their with the best the pc has to offer. This is all subjective - stating any opinion as fact is just a waste of everyone's time)

[Raidea]

I got a sample from vai.com, but wasn't that impressed. The quality was pretty low so I'll try and find a better sample. It was a bit thin. The theme was cool, but really doesn't show Vai's ability in the least. I'm hoping the soundtrack has more. Plus, the list of appearances was very impressive. I might have to pick up the soundtrack. I think it could have been better if Vai had produced it himself

There's a few Vai CD that I'm lacking. Need to get caught up. Just about got all the Satriani now.

I never got the clip I listened to from Vai.com, I got it from somwhere else (I think it was the guy that wrote the musics site) and it was crystal clear from there.

Haha, not many songs would show Vai's ability, especially not a videogame theme tune.

[Eon Blue]

At least Halo 2 will have it's own MP.
pwnt
sixcharandallthatnonsense

[Direwolf]

I don't believe those are even the pros and cons given by the mag, unless they've changed their format with this issue. This is the threadmaker's summary.

[GWalker]

Something tells me we have another HALO fanboy...

[wayne white]

to anyone that says that console games look like crap ,take a look at an OLD game called metroid prime.

[Raidea]

to anyone that says that console games look like crap ,take a look at an OLD game called metroid prime.

They don't look crap, but compared to PC games they do.

Sorry, but you can't argue that, but graphics arn't everything by an stretch.

[Warbie]

They don't look crap, but compared to PC games they do.

Sorry, but you can't argue that, but graphics arn't everything by an stretch.

Of course you can ...... it's all about art direction.

Some ppl think UT2004 looks good. I think it looks terribly cluttered and messy. I also think Metroid Prime 'looks' better than Far Cry and prefer the visuals of, say, Viewtiful Joe to games like Doom 3.(Of course, this doesn't make me right)

PC games do not 'look' better than console games, and vice versa.

[ukfluke]

lol @ the people who havnt played HL2 saying its better than halo 2 which theyve probably not played either.

play them both then decide!

[alehm]

ROTFL at people regardless.

[Alig]

And let's leave Breed out of this - it's complete shite .... by anyones standards. (you may not like Halo ....... but feeling it's on par with Breed puts you in the vast minority. I for one have played every decent PC shooter since Wolfenstein - and persoanlly think Halo is up their with the best the pc has to offer. This is all subjective - stating any opinion as fact is just a waste of everyone's time)

I'm in the vast minority by saying Halo1 is comparable to Breed.

Your in the vast minority by saying Halo1 is near the top of PC FPS's.

So lets agree to disagree...i think Halo is complete shite, 'nuff said. You think it competes with top PC FPS's, 'nuff said.

[KurtCobain]

At least Halo 2 will have it's own MP.

Is that s'pose to insult any hl2 fans ? lol

In a way it is good because it will show that it has gr8 story in sp mode. and will be better than Halo2, even without its MP

[Warbie]

Your in the vast minority by saying Halo1 is near the top of PC FPS's.

Maybe in 'PC circles' .... but to be fair, games like CoD get hailed as great here :/ Certainly not in general gaming.

So lets agree to disagree...i think Halo is complete shite, 'nuff said. You think it competes with top PC FPS's, 'nuff said.

Oki :) - you're right, of course.

[Asuka]

At least Halo 2 will have it's own MP.

and hl2 will have cs:s/hl:s/dod:s/ and about 300 mods (10+ that look better then halo 2 the game itself). Eleet!
:laugh:

[Alig]

and hl2 will have cs:s/hl:s/dod:s/ and about 300 mods (10+ that look better then halo 2 the game itself). Eleet!
:laugh:


I agree. I also don't see whats so bad about CS to most people, except the usual idiots that play it, but thats the same for any MP game on any uncontrolled server and apart from that its the most addictive MP game i've played since goldeneye. Sure new MP comes along and makes CS look shit (like UT2004's Onslaught mode - i thought i was in love with that, but it was just lust :P) yet i always go back to CS because of the addictiveness ;)

Maybe in 'PC circles' .... but to be fair, games like CoD get hailed as great here :/ Certainly not in general gaming.

I've never played CoD. I dont like war games since MOH:AA.

[ShinRa]

Is there really 3 full pages (i use show 40 posts per page) where people are ranting over halo 2 or hl2? Face it, halo is console noob mainstream garbage, and hl2 is more underground. Micro$oft loves to promote its products and show how AMAZING they are. I wouldn't be surprised if the mag was paid to give the ratings it gave. Oh and before you halo noobs flame me to death, i played HALO all the way through, both xbox and pc version, the game is trash. You walk through endless miles of the same bland textured empty corridors killing the same gay ass convenant homosexuals with one of your 10 "uber" weapons that all do the same thing. The story, is just a more complex way of saying "single handedly you must save the world."

edit - Oh and the characters are SO original......

Starcraft(way before halo's time) - Halo
Terran - Cheif
Protoss - Covenant
Zerg - Flood

[KurtCobain]

Is there really 3 full pages (i use show 40 posts per page) where people are ranting over halo 2 or hl2? Face it, halo is console noob mainstream garbage, and hl2 is more underground. Micro$oft loves to promote its products and show how AMAZING they are. I wouldn't be surprised if the mag was paid to give the ratings it gave. Oh and before you halo noobs flame me to death, i played HALO all the way through, both xbox and pc version, the game is trash. You walk through endless miles of the same bland textured empty corridors killing the same gay ass convenant homosexuals with one of your 10 "uber" weapons that all do the same thing. The story, is just a more complex way of saying "single handedly you must save the world."

I second that halo trash talk. Ive played i all the way thru on xbox and twice thru on PC. I just hated it, its just dull ;D

[Chiefi]

Half-life 2... underground? :|

First it was Hl2 vs Doom 3 now Hl2 vs Halo 2. I always thought i was a fanboy, but most people here give a new meaning to the "fanboy" expression.

Unbelievable.

[Homercidal]

Is that s'pose to insult any hl2 fans ? lol

In a way it is good because it will show that it has gr8 story in sp mode. and will be better than Halo2, even without its MP

Don't get me wrong. I think HL2 will absolutely rule Halo 2, but it still won't have it's own MP. That's just one plus I see for Halo 2. And, I think the commercial (And preview) for Halo 2 look amazing. It def. looks like an improvement to Halo. Well, Halo would have been much better IMO if it would have had a bit more variety in the level designs. Overall it was a very solid shooter with pretty good MP. Wish it had a level editor though.

[subtlesnake]

Oh and before you halo noobs flame me to death, i played HALO all the way through, both xbox and pc version, the game is trash. You walk through endless miles of the same bland textured empty corridors
Well a good third of the game is outdoors, and the level design and sense of scale in the outdoor sequences was absolutely amazing. The repetitive indoor levels you speak of are a result of the one year development process, not any lack of talent on Bungie's side.

killing the same gay ass convenant homosexuals
Come on, how about some actual arguments?

with one of your 10 "uber" weapons that all do the same thing.
What, you mean shoot at the enemies? I was under the impression the shotgun and sniper rifle worked differently.


The story, is just a more complex way of saying "single handedly you must save the world."
A la HL2

[Warbie]

Everyone knows HL2 is underground!!1 - for the more intelligent and discerning PC gamer ;)

Consoles are for kids! and anyone who likes Halo has an awful taste in video games!

I played Halo (Xbox) on Legendary and beat it first time, co-op is rubbish - and all the weapons are the same!!!111

[Bait]

Bah, there is a simple way to resolve this issue. I think it's pretty evident there are Different STROKES for different FOLKS. People may flock toward HL2 just because they have a stronger PC backround (Me for example). But, with the hype Halo 2 has, gamers might just expect it to split apart the Red Sea. While it probably won't do that, it still stands to be a very good game. But which will be better?

Well, it sure as hell won't be clear. It really depends where your biases are. For arguments sake, let's say that HL2 surpasses Halo 2, but not by much. A Halo 2 fanboi may play both games, but the fact that HL2 is truly a better game doesn't click in, because of his backround as a console gamer, or maybe just the redicoulous hype following up with the game. Said fanboi will proceed to fight to the death the fact that Halo 2 is better in this area, and that aspect, and that regard etc etc. Even if HL2 proves to be the better product, those fanbois will still remain steadfast in the idea that Halo2 is truly better than anything else. Ever. This works vice versa as well.

Anyways, not everyone is going to have the same opinion which game will be better, or even what the GOTY will be. Not that it matters, since the more good games are released, the better it is for everyone. But so long as HL2 or Halo2 doesn't completely fail and turn out to be a poor excuse for a game, there will always be those who think the other is a far inferior product.

[Sp00kyb0y]

Bah, there is a simple way to resolve this issue. I think it's pretty evident there are Different STROKES for different FOLKS.


What-choo talken bout Willis?