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Jeehde2
24-10-2004, 07:53 PM
You are in some sort of train and suddenly you see another train on the other side, theres a doctor inside and someone else... he wears a nice suit, looks at you and looks very different from the rest..
Later on, you see him again, standing behind a window, looking again... You have no clue who he could be, but you meet him again and again, until he starts talking to you, about some sort of job....
Every Half Life fan should know that Im talking about the mysterious G-Man. Somehow, he is one of the most important characters in Half Life. But why? You meet him sometimes and he starts talking about a job at the end.
But what do we know about him... He works for the government, he is very mysterious and wears a nice suit...
Thats about everything we know... But what will be his function in Half Life 2?
Im asking you to post an idea, what will be his role, will we see him more than in part 1, will we know more of him, will we know why he is so important...
Illegal Amigo
24-10-2004, 07:56 PM
He's "your employer," and is taking you to City 17 for details that will be revealed later.
Petabyte
24-10-2004, 07:58 PM
A magazine mentioned a minor spoiler about the G-man.
In Half-Life 2, the G-man will follow you around and stalk you just like in the original Half-Life.
I myself think he WILL betray you in the end. I think he is using you for his own sick agenda.
Like getting Gordon alone in the prison and raping him.
Jeehde2
24-10-2004, 07:58 PM
Well Amigo.....
That looks pretty clear to me.... Im not stupid you know ;)
But does anyone have an idea, why Valve included this man,
or can anyone guess what will happen to him..
koopa
24-10-2004, 08:00 PM
I'm hoping he's gonna be like:
'Hi there! Sorry if I creeped out you there before Gordon - just had a bit of a sore throat! You know how it is. Hey, check this out - I can speak Chinese now!'
Platinum
24-10-2004, 08:01 PM
I think he is using you for his own sick agenda.
Like getting Gordon alone in the prison and raping him.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAH!!! that made me laugh ...
i think the gman will betray gordon as well ... i think the gman will do something that SURPRISES us ... :laugh:
Petabyte
24-10-2004, 08:01 PM
I'm hoping he's gonna be like:
'Hi there! Sorry if I creeped out you there before Gordon - just had a bit of a sore throat! You know how it is. Hey, check this out - I can speak Chinese now!'
HAHA, nice. I can speak Chinese now, that was great.
I dont have an answer to your question, but does anyone recognise the symbol that is on the gman's briefcase?....
Ownzed
24-10-2004, 08:09 PM
'Mr. Freeman, it is time to face the consequences.'
Jeehde2
24-10-2004, 08:10 PM
which symbol?
nice idea... does someone have a screenie of it?
Yeah, betraying would be cool... HL2 ends with it, or something
like that... just like part 1 :D
here is a pic, not that good, i 'll try to find a better one, http://www.halflifexpert.com/hlworld/images/pak/gman.jpg
Jeehde2
24-10-2004, 08:14 PM
Maybe at the end.... the Gman tells Gordon that everything was a lie... the world is not real... MATRIX hahahaha that would be great.... he is just like smith... :laugh:
Absinthe
24-10-2004, 08:15 PM
If a topic is made over and over and over again, it usually gets criticized.
Why is this never the case with the weekly G-Man topics?
IRTT
I believe the G-Man is an intergalactic male stripper that puts on a facade of seriousness only to later strip off his suit and reveal a pink thong and a butterfly tattoo on his right buttock. At this point (by the end of HL3), the player has the choice of running off into the sunset with the G-Man or putting a revolver in their mouth and blowing their brains out.
Petabyte
24-10-2004, 08:16 PM
here is a bad pic, not that good, i 'll try to find a better one, http://www.halflifexpert.com/hlworld/images/pak/gman.jpg
Interesting. It looks like a limp penis.
Edgar
24-10-2004, 08:17 PM
That symbol is the black mesa symbol.
Jeehde2
24-10-2004, 08:18 PM
Well,
I cant recognize anything in the symbol, maybe well know more
in HL2
Maybe no one criticises a ,,weekly" thread about this character,
because he is just to interesting...
You gotta talk about something and well... the Gmans just cool
koopa
24-10-2004, 08:27 PM
It could be an elephant's trunk, or a handgun pointing downwards.
better pic
http://www3.telus.net/public/mapatter/gman.jpe
KagePrototype
24-10-2004, 08:30 PM
Definately the Black Mesa symbol.
koopa
24-10-2004, 08:32 PM
They look like two different symbols on those pictures to me. I don't think it means anything. It's probably just a logo.
The Monkey
24-10-2004, 08:37 PM
We know that he has two papers and a gun in his briefcase. If you hold your target in a certain position when G-man's around you can see through his briefcase.
Jeehde2
24-10-2004, 08:46 PM
A gun? Well, you never know :D
What about his name? G-Man, G for what?
Did I miss something?
Samon
24-10-2004, 08:46 PM
No one ever said he works for the government
Jeehde2
24-10-2004, 08:48 PM
I thought I read it somewhere, something about the government...
maybe that explains his name too.... Government Man :E
Samon
24-10-2004, 08:49 PM
People shouldnt think he does, because there aint no details
deathscent
24-10-2004, 08:50 PM
Assuming he does work for the government, why would the SWAT storm Black Mesa and TRY to kill you in the original? Damn people, thinkg straight for once!!
crabonhead
24-10-2004, 08:50 PM
That symbol is the black mesa symbol.
no it isnt. its probably "the administration"s symbol. isnt the balck mesa symbol lambda?
Vegeta897
24-10-2004, 08:51 PM
No one ever said he works for the government
Well considering the Grunts in HL don't shoot him... And he is around them and stuff..
And the G most likely stands for Government..
Anyway.. Did Cr0m let you take his avatar?
Crabonhead: No. We see that symbol in the very beginning of the game, on the world map in the BM lobby.
It is also on those big metal crates.
MiccyNarc
24-10-2004, 08:52 PM
It's a Yin Yang, only place I've seen it in HL1, too...
B.Calhoun
24-10-2004, 08:54 PM
Interesting. It looks like a limp penis.
LMFAO!!
Jeehde2
24-10-2004, 08:55 PM
Uuhhhh looks like one big conspiracy....
No one has a real clue... this could get very exciting... they wouldnt put symbols like this in HL for nothing...
:rolleyes:
no it isnt. its probably "the administration"s symbol. isnt the balck mesa symbol lambda?
The symbol for Black Mesa is (surprisingly!) a black mesa. The Lambda symbol is the symbol for the Lambda Complex.
Shodan
24-10-2004, 08:57 PM
It is definatly the black mesa symbol on his brief case, check in HL1 in the reception area as soon as you get off the train, there is a large map on the back wall you can see the same symbol on there.
Jeehde2
24-10-2004, 09:07 PM
He stalks Gordon because of an offer.... for a job...
Job? What kind of job? What could Gordons new job be?
Any more ideas for ,,G" man?
Esquire
24-10-2004, 09:09 PM
As far as i know, gman is just a government man. Seems to me that he was sent in to make sure there was no increminating evidence left at the BMRF and/or to take some stuff out of there with him.
shark
24-10-2004, 09:09 PM
I read the first post and thought, was the gman on another train at the begining? or somewhere else along the line. i don't remember seeing him.
test :)
Jeehde2
24-10-2004, 09:13 PM
He was on another train, on the other side... just before you arrive... :O
standing next to a doctor
So Gman stands for Government Man... at least I think so...
I couldnt think of anything else...
maybe G stands for Gay man, stalking Gordon all the time :naughty:
I only saw him much at the beginning of Half Life...in the first hour... after that he got rather rare, or I didnt look well enough
Jeehde2
24-10-2004, 09:23 PM
Hahaha, look at this!
I entered Government Man in Google (pictures)
look what i got (second line)
http://images.google.com/images?q=government+man&hl=nl
Well, now it looks pretty clear to me :rolleyes:
DEATH eVADER
24-10-2004, 09:24 PM
The reason why he did stalk you is because he's simply got too much time on his hand, which in a way, is rather Ironic in the game :)
Absinthe
24-10-2004, 09:26 PM
The only time he's actually referred to as the G-Man is in the OpFor manual.
Also, G-Man was a term that existed long before Half-Life. If he actually does work for the government, then Laidlaw certainly wouldn't make it so unbelievably freakin' obvious with such a name, now would he?
If you ask me, he's just called the G-Man because he looks like one. I wouldn't look into it any further than that.
Esquire
24-10-2004, 09:35 PM
Unless it doesn't matter if you know if he works for the government or not.
It's just that that's all we can call him because we know nothing else about him. He's a guy sent from the so called government.
Jeehde2
24-10-2004, 09:35 PM
Because he looks like one? You tell us that Government would be tooo easy, but you think he just looks like one... well, that looks much easier to me..
There has to be a better explanation than that.
It surely matters if we know if he works for the government...
, that could lighten up some things about Gordons new job I think
Absinthe
24-10-2004, 09:42 PM
Because he looks like one? You tell us that Government would be tooo easy, but you think he just looks like one... well, that looks much easier to me..
There has to be a better explanation than that.
What looks easier? If he just looks like one, then it's actually more difficult to figure out his origin and his purpose as opposed to assuming he works for the government (BECAUSE OF HIS NAME, DUH).
As I've stated before, the only time he's actually referred to as the G-Man isn't even in the game. It's in the manual for an expansion pack. Even then, it's not even a big deal. It's just something along the lines of "There's some guy checking us out. Some G-Man from the look of it".
If there was some big importance in his name, then you would have found more focus on it. As it currently stands, "G-Man" is just a term for that guy we all know.
Esquire
24-10-2004, 09:42 PM
To decipher Gordon's new job, it would help to look at why he was "employed" by the gman in the first place...
(i would continue but i cant be bothered)
Jeehde2
24-10-2004, 09:50 PM
The Gman had to know what was going to happen, or else he wouldnt be there... maybe we are going way to far... maybe he
just was there, then it happened and he figured that Gordon might be usefull for another job, helpings against the aliens in HL2
Thats the easiest way to explain how Gordon got his job...
Brian Damage
24-10-2004, 09:52 PM
Actually, I believe the source code of the original HL refers to him as "G-Man", as well as Agent Coomer, IIRC.
Absinthe
24-10-2004, 09:55 PM
Actually, I believe the source code of the original HL refers to him as "G-Man"...
Well, what would you rather have his model called? "cancerpatient"? "mysterydude"? Again, I don't believe this really has any importance. His model was called "gman" because they needed to call it something. Thus, you have something that you and the community can identify him as.
Robert
24-10-2004, 09:56 PM
Every Half Life fan should know that Im talking about the mysterious G-Man.
Or you just read the threads name: The G-Man.
shark
24-10-2004, 10:00 PM
http://www.half-life2.com/overview.html
Look. you'll see what i'm refering to
Brian Damage
24-10-2004, 10:08 PM
Hey, yeah, even the official site calls him the G-Man.
[daniom]
24-10-2004, 10:14 PM
So many question to be answer! Hope they reveal a few in Half-life 2...
Jeehde2
24-10-2004, 10:30 PM
Well, there are two ways it could go:
1. The Gman really is mysterious and his name really has a function. He has an important role in the game and we will get to know more about him in the second Half Life.
2. The Gman is just a person to make any sense to the game. His name is just used to identify him. We wont hear anything new of him in the second game.
I really, really hope that we will hear more ,,mysterious" facts in Half Life 2 and that Valve will uncover more information...
Well, his face is on the box, next to Gordon and Alyx...
That should mean that he is important. They could have picked Barney too...
And, just like said before, we will see him now and then, appearing and dissappearing...
shark
24-10-2004, 10:32 PM
We should play the game "Who can spot him the most".
Absinthe
24-10-2004, 10:37 PM
2. The Gman is just a person to make any sense to the game. His name is just used to identify him. We wont hear anything new of him in the second game.
WTF?
Just because his name isn't of significance doesn't mean he can't be a mysterious character and that there will be no new revealing information regarding him in HL2. I don't know why you thought otherwise.
Jeehde2
24-10-2004, 10:41 PM
Haha, yes, that would be a great idea...
I think Half Life 2 begins with that train, just like in part 1, we should be able to see him there somewhere... :rolling:
That had to be a lot harder for Valve... in part one, he appeared behind windows, on high ceilings, or...
But Half Life 2, look what we have... City 17, where would you put such a man??? You cant look through a window in the city, on the streets, so it would look rather stupid if there was one window with the Gman behind it... In Ravenholm (the horror part) you wont be able to see him, that just wouldnt fit... and then there is the whole buggy part...
Well, im very curious how Valve solved this..
But maybe he just isnt there, maybe we only see him in real conversations, just like Alyx and Eli...
Cause in part one, he stalked Gordon to see if he was up to the job, but he now had the job, so why would he stalk him again? If it is true what has been mentioned before, then there had to be another reason...
Jeehde2
24-10-2004, 10:43 PM
Well, I think, if the Gman is a mysterious man, then there has to be something cool with his name... thats my point of view...
Kamakazie
24-10-2004, 11:02 PM
he's an alien that taken over a goverment reps. body and is controlling the situtation to allow the alien to get a stronghold on Earth........ because they have an unexplainable love for bunny rabbits.
Jeehde2
24-10-2004, 11:07 PM
Hahaha, well I think you watched Men in Black a little tooo often.
But apart from the funny side, the Gman really looks like one of them... He suddenly appears, offers you a job and it all has to do with aliens! But well, his suit isnt black and he doesnt wear any sunglasses... Ah, hard point :O
AJ Rimmer
24-10-2004, 11:09 PM
Hahaha, well I think you watched Men in Black a little tooo often.
But apart from the funny side, the Gman really looks like one of them... He suddenly appears, offers you a job and it all has to do with aliens! But well, his suit isnt black and he doesnt wear any sunglasses... Ah, hard point :O
He's cigarette smoking man! Not a MIB.
Jeehde2
24-10-2004, 11:38 PM
Well, I still dont figure how Valve will show the Gman now and then... In HL2 almost everything played inside, its easy then, but Half Life 2 just is an outdoor game...
Well, we will see about that in the game..
I thought the Black Mesa incident was all set up as a 'test', and the G-Man was sent in to evaluate the findings. Obviously he decided that Gordon was the winning candidate.
Esquire
25-10-2004, 12:20 AM
Haha, yes, that would be a great idea...
I think Half Life 2 begins with that train, just like in part 1, we should be able to see him there somewhere... :rolling:
That had to be a lot harder for Valve... in part one, he appeared behind windows, on high ceilings, or...
....
...But maybe he just isnt there, maybe we only see him in real conversations, just like Alyx and Eli...
Cause in part one, he stalked Gordon to see if he was up to the job, but he now had the job, so why would he stalk him again? If it is true what has been mentioned before, then there had to be another reason...
I agree with your idea of the start of H-L2. I'm guessing Gman will be on a train moving in the opposite direction to you, or he will be getting on a train just as you got out of your train.
And yes, i think it would be hard to implement that norm of seeing the gman everyso often around the game. But, we havent seen all the levels in the game yet, from what we have seen the maps are quite open, but still there could be the more enclosed ones where we might see him again.
I wouldn't say Gman was stalking Gordon in HL1..
I always got the impression that it was Gman that was one step ahead Gordon.
Gman did say to Gordon, "I'll see you up ahead". From this i got the idea that Gman meant he'd see Gordon when he had caught up with him physically as in location (at first i thought the portal at the end of HL1 was time delayed, so gordon ended up on earth later than gman). But there is the possibility of the Gman meaning catch up in the more mental sense, as in find out what's going on in the world, and what your purpose is, and then we'll be at the same level.
DavE0r
25-10-2004, 12:48 AM
personally..i think its just gonna start with some music.. then the hl2 logo will come in.. then remeber that white ritin at the end of hl2?? i rekon that wil come up saying
Subject :- Gordon Freeman
Status:- Awake (or something like that..maybe Active)
then you will start the game, or just happen to end up
in the station with Dr Kliener speaking to you on that screen!
MaStA
25-10-2004, 01:08 AM
i think that the Gman will reveal "GORDAN I AM YOUR FATHER"
personally..i think its just gonna start with some music.. then the hl2 logo will come in.. then remeber that white ritin at the end of hl2?? i rekon that wil come up saying
Subject :- Gordon Freeman
Status:- Awake (or something like that..maybe Active)
then you will start the game, or just happen to end up
in the station with Dr Kliener speaking to you on that screen!
That's not Keliner talking to you on the screen...it Breen.
As for how the game is going to start, I think it's going to be the same as in the E3 2004 vid, with the whole "Wake up and smell the ashes" thing by the G-Man, then the train ride to City 17.
Hectic Glenn
25-10-2004, 01:51 AM
What about the whole other rumour, that...
G-man is Gordon from the future. (G)ordon Free(man)
i would have thought that was a possible/ crap story, but would make some sense.
Esquire
25-10-2004, 03:09 AM
What about the whole other rumour, that...
G-man is Gordon from the future. (G)ordon Free(man)
i would have thought that was a possible/ crap story, but would make some sense.
:frown: I'd be enfuriated if that rumour became reality. I'd probably cry.
MiccyNarc
25-10-2004, 03:21 AM
:frown: I'd be enfuriated if that rumour became reality. I'd probably cry.
Same here. It'd be a terribly lame cliche.
f|uke
25-10-2004, 03:26 AM
Gman is not Gordon. Its impossible. Absolutly impossible. I'm not even going to bother with spoiler tags the idea is so f'n stupid.
1) Gman saved Gordon from the fire at the end of HL1, by teleporting him away from Nihiliths lair. This is technically impossible if he was Gordon from the future, because he would not have survived the incident in the first place in order to live on and come back and save himself.
2) GMan has Gordon killed if he doesn't agree to work with him. Kill his past self? Not bloodly likely.
3) You are Gordon,. so how are you supposed to believe that GMan is you?!
Oh, and HL2 will start as HL1 did. The curtain will rise, and it will fade in from black. No music or build up,. just straight into consciousness.
Maybe some narrative text, and most likely in the presense of GMan.
RakuraiTenjin
25-10-2004, 03:53 AM
no it isnt. its probably "the administration"s symbol. isnt the balck mesa symbol lambda?
No, the Lambda Labs symbol was Lambda
BLACK MESA is a mesa inside a circle
The symbol on the GMan's briefcase is the symbol of the Black Mesa Research Facility.
Griever
25-10-2004, 04:27 AM
1) Gman saved Gordon from the fire at the end of HL1, by teleporting him away from Nihiliths lair. This is technically impossible if he was Gordon from the future, because he would not have survived the incident in the first place in order to live on and come back and save himself.
2) GMan has Gordon killed if he doesn't agree to work with him. Kill his past self? Not bloodly likely.
3) You are Gordon,. so how are you supposed to believe that GMan is you?!
4) The G-Man isn't human.
Nihilanth: You are man. He is not man. For you he waits, for you...
I think it's safe to assume he was talking about the G-Man. Unless of course he can see into the future and was talking about someone in HL2 or 3, but, given the circumstances, I don't think so.
sniper wolf
25-10-2004, 04:48 AM
maybe the gman was possessed by the xen and is really one of them.
Jeehde2
25-10-2004, 11:28 AM
As said before, I think hes going to betray Gordon.... that would also just end the rumour of the Gman being Gordon...
But wouldnt that be exciting somehow?
I think everyone has a different opinion about that, but still...
If you play Oppossing Force, theres this guard, the fat barney as I call it, he wears the same symbol on his chest as the Gman on his briefcase.. I dont think it means anything very special
Brian Damage
25-10-2004, 11:36 AM
The "fat Barney" is Otis, I believe.
SsmitzZ
25-10-2004, 02:10 PM
OK GUYS HERES A BREAKTHROUGH ----- in da opposing force manual your character states hes being looked at buy a man in a suit he also sez "COULD HE BE THE G-MAN" and he was looking at them before the black masa incedent accured (scuse me spelling) did the gman no about the incedent b4 it happend *xfiles music play* WE NEED MULDER AND SCULLY :o
Yogibbear
25-10-2004, 03:17 PM
Maybe the "g"-"man" isn't "g"ordon free"man" but he's alyx from the future? He's gone and had a sex change...... physical change etc etc..... like Miriam...... AHAHAHAHA
:cheers:
we11er
25-10-2004, 04:00 PM
Quite.
No, the g-man is in fact the late great Bob Monkhouse himself.
Aceallways
25-10-2004, 04:05 PM
He is Gordon Freeman from the future. Don't believe me? Wait until you play it.
$niffy
25-10-2004, 04:07 PM
No one ever said he works for the government
No but he did. Says it at the end. "I need to take back your guns, some of them are Goverment property" and he says something else that clearly indicated hes a Goverment man, hence the name G-man anyway.
Look it up
Absinthe
25-10-2004, 04:45 PM
No but he did. Says it at the end. "I need to take back your guns, some of them are Goverment property" and he says something else that clearly indicated hes a Goverment man, hence the name G-man anyway.
Look it up
I wouldn't look too heavily into the "government property" bit. The G-Man was quite cryptic at the end of HL. With the way he delivered that part, it just came off to me as the G-Man being sly.
1.) He does not sound human.
2.) The G-Man obviously has great control over teleportation. Are you going to tell me that he himself has the perfected technology for teleportation when Black Mesa itself is still doing research on it?
3.) Are you also going to tell me that a mere government employee is going to be able to frolick freely around a hellish and dangerous Black Mesa complex unarmed without even taking notice from the aliens?
4.) If he works for the government and can infilitrate and move around Black Mesa so easily, then why would they need to send in troops and Black Ops?
5.) The Nihilanth comment. I'm positive that it's in reference to the G-Man, seeing as how you finally meet him after defeating Nihilanth. In the progression and context of the game, it only makes sense.
6.) Putting Gordon into stasis for how many years? It smacks me of alien. If he was under government possesion Surely they can put a brilliant scientist/ass-kicker to better use during that time, no?
And there are a slew of other things as well, including the train ride through that space-like environment by the end of the first Half-Life, and the Osprey on Xen that Adrian is placed on. Again, it smacks me of alien.
If it turns out that the G-Man is in fact a government employee, then I will be completely shocked. But I doubt it will turn out that way.
Xrenity
25-10-2004, 05:00 PM
Gman did say to Gordon, "I'll see you up ahead". From this i got the idea that Gman meant he'd see Gordon when he had caught up with him physically as in location (at first i thought the portal at the end of HL1 was time delayed, so gordon ended up on earth later than gman). But there is the possibility of the Gman meaning catch up in the more mental sense, as in find out what's going on in the world, and what your purpose is, and then we'll be at the same level.
I thought that was just to the audience of the video. More like 'You WILL play the game and meet eachother again'.
GWalker
25-10-2004, 05:18 PM
He is Gordon Freeman from the future. Don't believe me? Wait until you play it.
Yeah, have you noticed they both have green eyes... :thumbs:
Esquire
25-10-2004, 05:20 PM
But wouldn't Gman being an alien be almost as bad as Gman being Gordon's pops or Gordon himself? It'd be bad like one of those stories where at the end the character says "i woke up, it had all been a dream!"
Instead, Gman simply being a devious smeaky whatever-u-wanna-call-him human would be more interesting and more cerebral than him being an alien. Besides, we've already seen many an alien, we dont need to see any more.
Though, if the Gman is an alien idea was done well ( i dnt kno how), then it could work and i wouldnt be offended, but i cant see that happening.
I'm really hoping H-L2 surprises me with it's plot. My only idea of what Gman could be up to is that he is working for/with some people who have allowed the aliens (Xen) to come to Earth so that Earth is weakened and then Gman n co can take over the world and they need gordon to help do it. But that's just another crappy "madman takes over the world story". so **** knows.
Absinthe
25-10-2004, 06:02 PM
But wouldn't Gman being an alien be almost as bad as Gman being Gordon's pops or Gordon himself? It'd be bad like one of those stories where at the end the character says "i woke up, it had all been a dream!"
Instead, Gman simply being a devious smeaky whatever-u-wanna-call-him human would be more interesting and more cerebral than him being an alien. Besides, we've already seen many an alien, we dont need to see any more.
Though, if the Gman is an alien idea was done well ( i dnt kno how), then it could work and i wouldnt be offended, but i cant see that happening.
I'm really hoping H-L2 surprises me with it's plot. My only idea of what Gman could be up to is that he is working for/with some people who have allowed the aliens (Xen) to come to Earth so that Earth is weakened and then Gman n co can take over the world and they need gordon to help do it. But that's just another crappy "madman takes over the world story". so **** knows.
The problem is that everything so far points to him NOT being human. At least not a human from that time period/dimension.
And the other problem is that you and others would apparently be disappointed with practically any explanation of the G-Man. OMG G-MAN IS AN ALIEN HOW CLICHED. OMG G-MAN IS GORDON FREEMAN HOW STUPID IS THAT. OMG G-MAN WANTS TO CONTROL THE WORLD THAT'S DUMB.
Can you not just trust the writer? I don't have a problem with any of those above possibilities, so long as it's done effectively and satisfies me.
Teta_Bonita
25-10-2004, 06:21 PM
Why would the Gman have to be an ailien?! He probably just works for them... I mean, does he look like an alien to you?!
piggy
25-10-2004, 07:27 PM
gman stands for government man.
dont belive me?? check in the opfor manual!
Absinthe
25-10-2004, 07:43 PM
Why would the Gman have to be an ailien?! He probably just works for them... I mean, does he look like an alien to you?!
"The problem is that everything so far points to him NOT being human. At least not a human from that time period/dimension."
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In any case, he does not necessarily look alien. Then again, neither do the Combine.
Just because he doesn't look like an alien doesn't mean he isn't one. His speech, his ability to teleport himself and others with ease, his relative comfort with the paranormal, and his cryptic messages do have me leaning towards the possibility of him being extra-terrestrial. And, as I said before, there's the Nihilanth line.
If he worked for the ****ing government, then he'd be out with it already, if you ask me. Instead, he tends to be hesitant whenever he references his "employers". If his allusions are to (DUN DUN DUN) the government, then it's rather stupid. That particular kind of revelation certainly doesn't warrant the kind of secrecy it's been regarded with.
Megalomaniac
25-10-2004, 08:03 PM
First off, from everything been said, he isn't with the goverment...that isn't to say he isn't human, he could just be with some small group that know way more then the goverment.
And as for what the G stands for, I think it's obvious it's (G)ordon's Man :P
Brian Damage
25-10-2004, 08:08 PM
I don't think we've seen the Combine yet, only their Overwatch soldiers.
And the G-Man actually looks pretty weird if you stare at him long enough. He looks like he wasn't put together quite right. I'm pretty sure his eyes are even on slightly different levels. Which isn't actually unusual in humans, but it seems particularly exaggerrated in his case.
Megalomaniac
25-10-2004, 08:26 PM
Oh and I think the first thing he will say will probably be along the lines of "We've been rather busy in your absence Mr.Freeman"
Jeehde2
25-10-2004, 09:40 PM
Maybe....he is an Illuminati !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I hope Valve gave him some important role in part two...
or else this whole thread wouldnt be good for anything...
but I really want to thank all of you for posting and answering my
questions as far as possible... at least everyone can see now that theres a lot going to happen...
Keep going!! :D
Peqkx
25-10-2004, 09:45 PM
You know the guy that was in the forgotten? That's the G-Man.
Murray
25-10-2004, 09:49 PM
The link in my sig says it all.
(It is a joke BTW (Not the gold part))
HolySdrJR
25-10-2004, 10:58 PM
1.) He does not sound human.
2.) The G-Man obviously has great control over teleportation. Are you going to tell me that he himself has the perfected technology for teleportation when Black Mesa itself is still doing research on it?
3.) Are you also going to tell me that a mere government employee is going to be able to frolick freely around a hellish and dangerous Black Mesa complex unarmed without even taking notice from the aliens?
4.) If he works for the government and can infilitrate and move around Black Mesa so easily, then why would they need to send in troops and Black Ops?
5.) The Nihilanth comment. I'm positive that it's in reference to the G-Man, seeing as how you finally meet him after defeating Nihilanth. In the progression and context of the game, it only makes sense.
6.) Putting Gordon into stasis for how many years? It smacks me of alien. If he was under government possesion Surely they can put a brilliant scientist/ass-kicker to better use during that time, no?
7.)And there are a slew of other things as well, including the train ride through that space-like environment by the end of the first Half-Life, and the Osprey on Xen that Adrian is placed on. Again, it smacks me of alien.
8.)If it turns out that the G-Man is in fact a government employee, then I will be completely shocked. But I doubt it will turn out that way.
1)Someone has to do his voice, man... Someone sounds like him.
2)If he's from the future he can control the technology they are learning in the past...
3)Yeah, actually I am. Somehow he always "gets away". Remember he's got those teleports!
4)The G-mans objective is not to get rid of the aliens. I think that he's only there to watch himself... He has a fondness for survivors, remember? Plus, he wants to change the future a little (more on that later).
5)Nihilanth comment? About how G-man isn't human? If this is what you mean, I think that further convinces me G-man is you (us/me/whatever). Nihilanth doesn't understand how one person standing in front of him can actually be two entities. One of them must be fake, right? So one is human, one is not. You do all the damage to Nihalanth, so you must be the human (G-man just watches...)
6)Sorry, no. If my theory is correct, G-man "saved" you just for this moment. He obviously thinks that NOW is the time to rid the aliens...
7)I don't remember the ospray, but obviously G-man can fly around in space... He's got control over other future technologies, why not that one?
8)I wont be shocked, ('cause I think it's true) but I will be pissed...
Gman is not Gordon. Its impossible. Absolutly impossible. I'm not even going to bother with spoiler tags the idea is so f'n stupid.
1) Gman saved Gordon from the fire at the end of HL1, by teleporting him away from Nihiliths lair. This is technically impossible if he was Gordon from the future, because he would not have survived the incident in the first place in order to live on and come back and save himself.
2) GMan has Gordon killed if he doesn't agree to work with him. Kill his past self? Not bloodly likely.
3) You are Gordon,. so how are you supposed to believe that GMan is you?!
4)Oh, and HL2 will start as HL1 did. The curtain will rise, and it will fade in from black. No music or build up,. just straight into consciousness.
Maybe some narrative text, and most likely in the presense of GMan.
1)I don't think G-man actually saved you. There are other portals, you just have to make it to one. I think you are able to survive on your own, but perhaps you loose something that makes it difficult for you to fight. This is why G-man comes and helps you to make it through easier. He knows that he is a survivor...
2)No, not likely. But you didn't choose that one did you? If you did, you can't play HL2, 'cause you're dead. I know we all saved before we jumped, and reloaded to find out what happens if we don't (or visa versa), but if you decided that you like the death ending, you can't play HL2.
Plus, G-man knows what you'll decide, you're a survivor, you want to live. He knows you wont choose to die.
3)You survived a lot, I know, it's hard to comprehend, especially after fighting for so long... Just take some time, relax, let it sink in.
4)Yeah, I think so too. There will be no cinematic of you coming out of a tube (Halo)...
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I'm just putting my thoughts down... I (long ago) thought to myself what if G-man is you? From the future, or maybe just a representation of you (from the future). I have been thinking about it for a long time. Then I notice eye's are the same (no one else has green eyes, they're always brown...) the shape of the face and nose is the same... He's definately about 15-20 years older (slightly grey hair and a bit darker)... Then all them stinking rumors and spoilers (friggen maggots) kinda sealed the coffin. My problem is that they "cheated" and peaked instead of thinking for themselves...
This is not a flaming post... Just some of my thoughts, what are yours?
Kel Thuzad
25-10-2004, 11:15 PM
uff...this thread is too much
Absinthe
25-10-2004, 11:23 PM
1)Someone has to do his voice, man... Someone sounds like him.
Somebody voice acts him. The same person who does Barney, in fact.
I was referring to his pauses, the way he draws out "S" sounds, and the way he always seems to be choking when he speaks. In no way does it sound natural.
2)If he's from the future he can control the technology they are learning in the past...
Questionable. If he's from the future and he's altering the past, then he risks destroying himself. After all, if he's changed the future, then he has no reason to be in Black Mesa, and... Urk, time travel is ****ing confusing.
3)Yeah, actually I am. Somehow he always "gets away". Remember he's got those teleports!
No shit. My emphasis was on him being a mere government employee.
4)The G-mans objective is not to get rid of the aliens. I think that he's only there to watch himself... He has a fondness for survivors, remember? Plus, he wants to change the future a little (more on that later).
He has more part in Black Mesa than you'd realize. He was monitoring Adrian Shepard during Boot Camp. Mere coincidence that both of these characters met once more at Black Mesa? Or how about the fact that he personally armed the nuke that the BlackOps failed to set off?
5)Nihilanth comment? About how G-man isn't human? If this is what you mean, I think that further convinces me G-man is you (us/me/whatever). Nihilanth doesn't understand how one person standing in front of him can actually be two entities. One of them must be fake, right? So one is human, one is not. You do all the damage to Nihalanth, so you must be the human (G-man just watches...)
Possible. But even you have to admit that you're stretching quite a bit.
Actually, I find it unlikely. If he is your future self, then why would he execute you for not joining him? Theoretically, he would also die. Chances are, the G-Man is not you.
6)Sorry, no. If my theory is correct, G-man "saved" you just for this moment. He obviously thinks that NOW is the time to rid the aliens...
My comment was against the idea of G-Man being a government employee. And if I was the government, I'd have him kicking alien ass AS SOON as shit started hitting the fan worldwide. There's no plausible reason for the world governments to WAIT to be destroyed and ONLY THEN release Freeman.
I'm not entirely sure if you're arguing for G-Man being a government employee.
7)I don't remember the ospray, but obviously G-man can fly around in space... He's got control over other future technologies, why not that one?
I'm not entirely sure if you understand what I was even arguing about.
2)No, not likely. But you didn't choose that one did you? If you did, you can't play HL2, 'cause you're dead. I know we all saved before we jumped, and reloaded to find out what happens if we don't (or visa versa), but if you decided that you like the death ending, you can't play HL2.
Plus, G-man knows what you'll decide, you're a survivor, you want to live. He knows you wont choose to die.
But you CAN choose to die. Furthermore, you know that the G-Man would have killed you had you not joined him. Just because you didn't make that choice according to Half-Life 2 doesn't mean that the alternative was still a very real possibility.
Then all them stinking rumors and spoilers (friggen maggots) kinda sealed the coffin. My problem is that they "cheated" and peaked instead of thinking for themselves...
Those rumors have been said to be fake.
Petabyte
25-10-2004, 11:26 PM
uff...this thread is too much
Agreed. From mere to Prison Rape jokes to flame wars. What has this world come to?
DevgruSeal
25-10-2004, 11:27 PM
Because his face looks like an angry white paper bag?
Mr.Headcrab
26-10-2004, 12:58 AM
Hmmmm in blue shift there is a neuclear bomb on a tank that you must diffuse and then go all the way around to another room with a window looking at the diffused bomb, only to see the G-Man re-activate it. Also in Blue Shift (i think this one) you see a zombie in front of a flashing TV, he is in a seizure. what would be cool is if you could get a big strobe light and put all the zombies into seizures and just walk around them to get to something more worthy of your bullets.
Am I the only one who would like to split G-Man open with the crowbar, in the first one, you could put on noclip and hit him but he appeared to be shielded in some way. Maybe Gman is the one who will get stuck in the prison and get raped. Also i think with all the the radiation, and that little thing in the phsyche video, i think gordon will die at the end. It says something about muscular degeneration, a 30 ml sample of something, alpha activity, and a seizure.
Esquire
26-10-2004, 01:15 AM
I thought that was just to the audience of the video. More like 'You WILL play the game and meet eachother again'.
Nah he also said this "see you up ahead" business at the end of Hl1.
Back onto Gman's job and Gordon's job...
I get the idea that Gman's employees are indescribable. Remember how he struggled to identify them to Gordon at the end of Hl2... his hesitation when he said "employees". Also, pay attention to the plurality of it, He has more than one employee.
The fact that gangsta-man cant describe his employees suggest that they are of some form Gordon cannot comprehend or they are people/something Gordon doesnt need to know about yet.
Gman seems to be a negotiator or a business man. He was sent into BMRF to keep an eye on things and to make sure everything went according to plan. When things ended balls up, Gman went about his business and cleared up the mess. Gordon helped a fair bit with this since he took care of Nihilanth, so Gman hired him (Why let such potential go when you can have the person who holds it as a powerful tool in your organization instead?).
Most people on this forum go on about how mysterious the gman is... and i agree he is... but when he finally spoke to us at the end of hl1, the focus was not on him, it was on his employees. When he struggled to find the best way of describing them, portraying them in a way Gordon could understand, he hesitated, and made them stand out markedly.
I understand that we really have no info on Gman's employees, but for me they are way more intriguing and mysterious than Gman.
If we are indeed on Earth, and it has been overrun by alien forces, then my only idea for the function of Gordon is as a part of a cleanup squad (or simply a 1man cleanup).
Gman puts gordon on a path where he'll end up meetin his old homies and together the scientists find a way to repel the combine and/or aliens.
I dont like this idea, because i'd expect my manager to be frantic when telling me that the business is in trouble and he needs my help to sort it out. But instead, Gman seemed to be revelling in it.. "wake up and smell the ashes", The guy sounded turned on!
So yeah, Gman, enjoying the destruction and rape of planet earth.. i cant be bothered continuing this.
BTW, shouldnt this thread be in 'rumours and speculation'?!
RakuraiTenjin
26-10-2004, 01:43 AM
Hmmmm in blue shift there is a neuclear bomb on a tank that you must diffuse and then go all the way around to another room with a window looking at the diffused bomb, only to see the G-Man re-activate it. Also in Blue Shift (i think this one) you see a zombie in front of a flashing TV, he is in a seizure. what would be cool is if you could get a big strobe light and put all the zombies into seizures and just walk around them to get to something more worthy of your bullets.
The nuke was in OpFor and the seizuring zombie from the screen strobe like light flash was in the start of Half Life
HolySdrJR
26-10-2004, 03:08 AM
Possible. But even you have to admit that you're stretching quite a bit.
I'll admit that I stretched a whole lot on almost all of it :thumbs:
I just figured everything out. the Gman is a reptilian. :P
reasons:
-holds a high power position
-his eyes and voice
-bullets and stuff con't affect him
-can teleport from and to anywhere even without teleport machines around
It fits perfectly with the "theories" that describe reptilian aliens :P
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