View Full Version : A Perfect Circle -- eMOTIVe
KagePrototype
11-10-2004, 03:28 PM
I'm practically at bursting point waiting for this album. It's only been just over a year since Thirteenth Step was released, and already we've got new A Perfect Circle. This really suprised me, because I thought Maynard was going to focus on Tool's new stuff for the rest of the year. :D I know it's just a covers album, but if these songs are as good as their cover of "The Nurse Who Loved Me", it should be worth just as much as an album full of new material.
Along with Eighties Matchbox B-Line Disaster's new stuff (The Royal Society), this is the album I'm most looking forward to this year. Any other APC fans around?
oh, for those who don't know the track listing:
1. "Annihilation" (Matthew Borruso, Christopher Douglas, Sothira Pheng)
Crucifix - "NOT SO QUIET ON THE WESTERN FRONT" (1982)
2. "Imagine" (John Lennon)
John Lennon - "IMAGINE" (1971)
3. "(What's So Funny 'Bout) Peace, Love And Understanding" (Nick Lowe)
Elvis Costello & the Attractions - "ARMED FORCES" (1979)
4. "Counting Bodies Like Sheep To The Rhythm Of the War Drums" (Billy
Howerdel, Maynard James Keenan)
A Perfect Circle - "eMOTIVe" (2004)
5. "What's Going On" (Renaldo Benson, Al Cleveland, Marvin Gaye)
Marvin Gaye - "WHAT'S GOING ON" (1971)
6. "When The Levee Breaks" (John Bonham, John Paul Jones, Memphis Minnie,
Jimmy Page, Robert Plant)
Led Zeppelin - "UNTITLED" (1971)
7. "Freedom Of Choice" (Gerald V. Casale, Mark Mothersbaugh)
Devo - "FREEDOM OF CHOICE" (1980)
8. "People Are People" (Martin L. Gore)
Depeche Mode - "PEOPLE ARE PEOPLE" (1984)
9. "Passive" (TK)
A Perfect Circle - "eMOTIVe" (2004)
10. "Gimmie Gimmie Gimmie" (Greg Ginn)
Black Flag - "EVERYTHING WENT BLACK" (1983)
11. "Let's Have A War" (Philo Cramer, Lee Ving)
Fear - "THE RECORD" (1982)
12. "Fiddle And The Drum" (Joni Mitchell)
Joni Mitchell - "CLOUDS" (1969)
Bad^Hat
11-10-2004, 04:16 PM
The Nurse Who Loved Me was a cover? :S
Cover album... yay .. eh :|
seriously.. :|
i heard imagine... and my god..
what have they done to this song?
damn.. and i liked APC
Zerimski
11-10-2004, 05:59 PM
I've not heard Imagine yet, I keep meaning to watch the streaming video but never get round to it. I'm really looking forward to this album.
KagePrototype
11-10-2004, 06:15 PM
The Nurse Who Loved Me was a cover? :S
It's a cover of a song by Failure.
And I really like APC's take on Imagine. Which is why I'm pretty damn excited. :)
Delicious Bass
12-10-2004, 04:49 AM
when i first heard imagine on the radio i recognised maynard's voice but it didnt sound like something he would write. but i cant wait for this new cd, APC kicks so much ass. I saw them live in Salem, Oregon a few months back, ****ing kicked ass!
Once this album is done I believe Maynard will be focused on the new Tool CD, right now they are just toying around.
TMPer Tantrum
12-10-2004, 01:14 PM
I love APC's stuff. I have a great live APC cover of them doing Ashes to Ashes by David Bowie. Great stuff too. I am a bit hesitant over a cover album by them though, it just seems so naaasty.
Naaasty.
colin4444
15-10-2004, 08:24 AM
I love APC. I had no idea that this album is coming out. Thanks for the info. Where can I find that Imagine cover? I haven't heard it yet.
KagePrototype
15-10-2004, 08:59 AM
http://aperfectcircle.com/
colin4444
15-10-2004, 09:27 AM
Whoa, the website shows the peace sign and turns into the APC logo, showing the way in which the logo actually does make a perfect circle. I thought I was really smart when I found out about 2 months ago that the logo was the shading of one outside edge and one inside edge of a 3d circle. Now I know that is in fact what it is.
neptuneuk
15-10-2004, 07:39 PM
the bassist for A perfect circle kicks ass, geordie white (aka twiggy ramirez, bassist from marilyn manson) :D:D
Thought I'd bump this for a little review..
The album is incredible, although, it's very soft, it's kind of like Opeth's Damnation of APC albums.
Lots of great melodies and sounds.
I wasn't a big fan of their earlier work but this is awesome.
Zerimski
22-10-2004, 09:41 AM
Incredible.
KagePrototype
22-10-2004, 09:02 PM
Just got it myself, "Incredible" is the perfect word to describe it. :) A perfect Circle were always better at ambient, mellow songs, and I'm glad they focused on that sort of music for this album. "Peace, Love And Understanding", "Let's Have A War", "Annihilation" and "What's Going On" are my favourites.
Nostradamus
22-10-2004, 09:27 PM
Crazy I was just about to post about this!
Just pre-ordered my cd, including an exclusive tshirt! :D
http://aperfectcircle.com/ check out the videos for "imagine" and "counting sheep...."
Zerimski
23-10-2004, 12:10 AM
"Passive" just became my favourite.
KagePrototype
23-10-2004, 12:13 AM
Passive seems to be an old Tapeworm (project involving NIN members, Tool members, Phil Anselmo and various others) song with a few changes here and there. I remember APC performed it live, when it used to be called "Vacant". I guess after Tapeworm died off, it was free to use.
ironklaw
23-10-2004, 09:27 AM
I don't know what is bothering people so much about this album. It's not a cover album, it's an album of re-interpretations which I really enjoyed. The 2 APC originals on it (Passive and Counting Bodies Like Sheep to the Rhythm of the War Drum--A remix of APC's "Pet") were phenomenal.
The problem I'm finding is that people are approaching this album with a fixed idea of what APC is in their minds. You have to let that go and appreciate the artistic genius of the album. They're conveying a message with the album and don't want to mess around.
Imagine is different, sure, and I liked the original. But the new version takes a song which was originally agressive with passive tones and decides to put some fight into it.
Counting Bodies Like Sheep(...) is a really powerful song, with a grinding, plodding sort of mechanical feel to it that I really enjoy and really agressive lyrics.
I'm not a diehard APC fan. Hell, I didn't even buy Thirteenth Step, but I really, really loved this album. A couple of songs I didn't like but overall I enjoyed it.
So say what you will, but try to approach the album with an open mind. It really is quite interesting.
f|uke
23-10-2004, 10:40 AM
I never really got into Thirteenth Step,.
I do think Mer De Norms was brilliant tho.
I'll definitly give this new album a listen, though I really dont like the cover of Imagine :/ I mean, I get the message, I get where hes coming from with the dark minor tones,. but it just seems too overbearing.
Zerimski
23-10-2004, 01:27 PM
Passive seems to be an old Tapeworm (project involving NIN members, Tool members, Phil Anselmo and various others) song with a few changes here and there. I remember APC performed it live, when it used to be called "Vacant". I guess after Tapeworm died off, it was free to use.
I knew about Tapeworm, but I didn't know about this particular track.
On an almost related note, have you heard REV 20:20 from the Underworld soundtrack?
And fluke, Thirteenth Step can really take some listening to get into, but it's so worth it.
theGreenBunny
23-10-2004, 02:32 PM
I liked the Imagine cover, but that's about it. I'll check out their two older albums sometime soon, although I may simply not be an apc-person.
KagePrototype
23-10-2004, 02:43 PM
I don't know what is bothering people so much about this album. It's not a cover album, it's an album of re-interpretations which I really enjoyed.
Heh, what's the difference exactly? :p
Yeah, that REV 20:20 song was a phenomenal track. I swear, Maynard James Keenan and Danny Lohner have some sort of Midas Touch.
And Thirteenth Step is a brilliant album, you just have to give it a chance. it's a lot more organic and progressive than Mer De Noms.
f|uke
23-10-2004, 05:29 PM
Heh, what's the difference exactly? :pJudging by "Imagine", lots of key changes.
Bad^Hat
25-10-2004, 05:42 PM
And fluke, Thirteenth Step can really take some listening to get into, but it's so worth it.
Yeah, it took me ages to warm to it. A friend of mine kept insisting it was brilliant and played it around me every opportunity he got, but it never really clicked with me, it was a little too ambient and progressive. Then I got my own copy and it's one of my favourite albums, right up there with Deloused In The Comatorium :D
Actually, it's taking longer for me to warm to Mer De Noms, having heard this one first. It's too heavy!! >_<
Anyway, as soon as I get payed back the money I'm owed, I'm gonna go out and get Emotive and the new Dream Theater DVD :)
KagePrototype
25-10-2004, 06:20 PM
OK, Emotive is done. Now will someone get Maynard to finish that bloody Tool album already!? :laugh:
Wraith
25-10-2004, 07:10 PM
**** that, lets hear some tapeworm
;( ;(
KagePrototype
25-10-2004, 07:26 PM
Tapeworm is dead, let it go! :p
Zerimski
30-10-2004, 01:15 PM
Has anyone else pre-ordered from play.com? I placed an order as soon as I saw that they had the version with the bonus DVD available, and now it's showing as "Sold Out", but my pre-order status is still pre-ordered :| I've had to order it from the US now.
Ennui
02-11-2004, 02:57 AM
Haven't heard it yet myself, but my friend is disappointed in it.
I'm more of a Tool fan than APC myself.
Delicious Bass
02-11-2004, 07:08 AM
gotta love em both, maynard said in an interview that the reason he started APC was cuz he ran out of things to write for Tool and didnt want to end up like every other band on the planet writing shit. But after eMOTIVe is released (TOMARROW) he is going back into the studio with Tool to make a new cd!
I love teh Maynard
Bad^Hat
02-11-2004, 05:28 PM
The way I heard it, APC's origin came about when Maynard and Josh Freese (drummer) were flatting with Billy Howerdel (lead guitar/composer), who'd been touring with NIN as the guitar tech. Josh told Maynard that Billy had been writing some pretty insane stuff while on tour, so Maynard proposed they confront him about it and offer their assistance and thus APC was born. Feel free to correct me.
Zerimski
06-11-2004, 09:13 AM
http://www.play.com/play247.asp?searchtype=allproducts&searchstring=amotion&page=search&Go.x=0&Go.y=0
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Delicious Bass
07-11-2004, 01:49 AM
i just got the cd and its amazing! there is no reason to take away points just cuz most of the songs on this album are covers. APC makes every song their own :cheers:
Bad^Hat
12-11-2004, 02:16 PM
Got the CD. Was dissapointed first listen, despite making my best efforts to leave any pre-concieved ideas at the door. But the more I listen to it... wow, this is a brilliant album :D
Tropico
12-11-2004, 04:38 PM
I have only heard Imagine and i must say i didnt much like what they did with it.
I like apc and Tool but that song should have been left alone.
Its like using paint shop pro on the sisten chapel or guernica
Bad^Hat
13-11-2004, 02:43 PM
It wasn't a cover, they were giving their own interpretation, you don't have to like the original to enjoy it and vice versa :)
Delicious Bass
26-11-2004, 08:58 AM
everytime i listen to this cd the more i like it! it is one of those cd's you have to listen to more than once to really like it :cheers:
Zerimski
26-11-2004, 06:29 PM
I still don't have my copy of the CD from the States :( I do however have the aMOTION DVD, which rocks hard.
Edit: I just got home, and it was waiting for me on the kitchen table! With it's holographic cover and everything, to go with my version of Aenima :D
Dr. Freeman
28-11-2004, 06:09 AM
the song Imagine... it gives me.. this empty feeling that i have felt so many other times...its depressing but i love the tune and its the only one i have heard so far..
Delicious Bass
29-11-2004, 01:53 AM
passive is such a good song, i think its their own not a cover. damn good cd
C-O-N-Spiracy
29-11-2004, 02:10 AM
I'm practically at bursting point waiting for this album. It's only been just over a year since Thirteenth Step was released, and already we've got new A Perfect Circle. This really suprised me, because I thought Maynard was going to focus on Tool's new stuff for the rest of the year. :D I know it's just a covers album, but if these songs are as good as their cover of "The Nurse Who Loved Me", it should be worth just as much as an album full of new material.
Along with Eighties Matchbox B-Line Disaster's new stuff (The Royal Society), this is the album I'm most looking forward to this year. Any other APC fans around?
oh, for those who don't know the track listing:
A Perfect Circle is an awesome band..
However, they blew it with eMOTIVe.
I mean, cmon.. a remake of Imagine?
KagePrototype
29-11-2004, 09:19 AM
passive is such a good song, i think its their own not a cover. damn good cd
It's a retooling of a Tapeworm song called Vacant, a project that involved Maynard (as well as Trent Reznor, Phil Anselmo, Danny Lohner et al.), but eventually died. They played it live once as a a tapeworm cover.
Delicious Bass
02-12-2004, 07:42 AM
oh i didnt know that, still a good song. i dont think apc failed at all with this cd, sometimes you just gotta accept what the artist has done, and youll eventually see why they did it and enjoy it
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