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Weedums
07-09-2004, 08:22 PM
I have barely played it at all..... I went so far as to get the sub machine gun.

Do fully enjoy HL2 should I dig up HL and beat it?

All this G-man conspiracy and Xen I keep hearing about, I haven't experienced..... should I dust off HL?

Or can one of you be nice enough to summarize the events of the previous game.

westie
07-09-2004, 08:24 PM
You really should play it and complete it, Take at look at my sig, it is that good :)

DarkStar
07-09-2004, 08:27 PM
It's still the best FPS ever. Almost 6 years years later.

Terranboy
07-09-2004, 08:27 PM
Yes you should beat it.Good gosh its the best game ever made. I played it...probably 4-5 months ago for the hundredth time. Beat it in a week.

Varsity
07-09-2004, 08:30 PM
Good grief, you're not even 1/12 through the game! I though you were going to say you'd bugged out at Xen (understandable, I often do when I replay) or something.

Sgt_Shellback
07-09-2004, 08:31 PM
Watching the story line unfold is worth it IMO

Dr0ndeh
07-09-2004, 08:31 PM
you'll want to finsih it before hl2, there will undoubtedly be loads of referencial plot points, maybe even jokes about the whole black meda incident.

valdiorn
07-09-2004, 08:31 PM
I played through it in august last year ("one month" before HL2 was released... HAHA not funny :) ), it took me and my friend 16 hours to complete, from 10 am to 4 am at night :D played it through on one day.. it was the most boring day of my life... :smoking:

The game doesn't really have a storyline, and if you don't wanna spend all that time playing, here's a quick recap of the major issures:

Spoilers (I guess.. most of you know this stuff :)):


Shit goes wrong when you open a teleport gate, everybody dies, aliens come, government doesn't want the outside world to know, Commandos come and kill everybody, you kill them, you go to Xen where the aliens came from, kill the mother-alien and when you are coming back to earth G-man asks you to work for him, if you don't say OK he kills you :S
I suspect he was working with the aliens ;)

And there you have the HL 1 storyline :P

Varsity
07-09-2004, 08:35 PM
Shit goes wrong when you open a teleport gate, everybody dies, aliens come, government doesn't want the outside world to know, Commandos come and kill everybody, you kill them, you go to Xen where the aliens came from, kill the mother-alien and when you are coming back to earth G-man asks you to work for him, if you don't say OK he kills you :S
There's so much more to it than that.

CrazyHarij
07-09-2004, 08:35 PM
You really should play it and complete it, Take at look at my sig, it is that good :)

Whoa, man. Hardcore. Hardcore.

westie
07-09-2004, 08:38 PM
Whoa, man. Hardcore. Hardcore.

What's that all about???

Miker75
07-09-2004, 08:38 PM
I never finished it either. I remember getting up to a point where I was at the bottom of a (looked like a missile silo or something) and there were soldiers dropping down into it from a helicopter above. No idea how far along that was, wish I still had my save games :)

Jarman
07-09-2004, 08:40 PM
I have been playing videogames all my life long (I'm 29) and I can tell you I simply had never seen anything like that. Depending on how many FPS you played, it may not tell you much today... but give it a try. The story is interesting, the puzzles are great and the level design is superb. Moreover, you will be able to get the hang of the interface and this will be useful when you finally manage to play HL2.

Interl@ce
07-09-2004, 08:45 PM
half-life really was a gameplay revolution in it's time! i mean the best game at that moment (released around the same time i believe) was SiN. Well i don't know but half-life lasted much longer, was more fun and it just kicked (and still kicks) ass!
I especially liked HL deathmatch. the entire atmosphere it breathed out made me an addict :P i still think it rocks

Mechagodzilla
07-09-2004, 08:52 PM
Hell, don't stop at beating Half-Life.
Beat Blue Shift and Opposing force while you're at it. :D

Yellonet
07-09-2004, 08:54 PM
Yes, beating HL is a must in order to fully appreciate HL2. And this forum ;) If you don't there will undoubtedly be things in HL2 that wont make sense or that you just don't understand. I guess.

Beating HL is whole-heartedly recommended. It's a nice experience.


- Yellonet

Terranboy
07-09-2004, 08:54 PM
I don't see how you could be excited about HL2 if you haven't played HL1. Visuals are NOT the point.

poseyjmac
07-09-2004, 08:55 PM
You really should play it and complete it, Take at look at my sig, it is that good :)

ehhh, theres no desert eagle in hl

DigiQ8
07-09-2004, 08:55 PM
I don't see how you could be excited about HL2 if you haven't played HL1. Visuals are NOT the point.
Yea, its the story !
cant wait to see what will happen in HL2 !

westie
07-09-2004, 09:01 PM
ehhh, theres no desert eagle in hl

No desert eagle in HL, yes but there is in Opposing force and i played HL through opposing force (HL game with opposing force weapons).

himself
07-09-2004, 09:07 PM
i finished it like 3 times. its really worth it. i cant understand how somebody can say hl has a boring storyline... well, whatever.

Some_God
07-09-2004, 09:18 PM
PLAY IT! Then play Opfor and BS to get the full story. :O

jimbones
07-09-2004, 09:23 PM
I have barely played it at all..... I went so far as to get the sub machine gun.

Do fully enjoy HL2 should I dig up HL and beat it?

All this G-man conspiracy and Xen I keep hearing about, I haven't experienced..... should I dust off HL?

Or can one of you be nice enough to summarize the events of the previous game.

You, my good Sir, disgust me!






j/k :cheers:

Roland Deschain
07-09-2004, 09:26 PM
There are going to do a lot of mentioning of HL in HL2, so, although not really necessary to play HL before HL2 to enjoy the game, you'll get a much deepter experience of the story line of HL2 if you can begin it with some knowledge of HL, OF, and BS.

Annihilator_91
07-09-2004, 09:57 PM
I have completed all three HL games! I bought HL Generation early this year! It's just best!!! Don't stop playing! Rock on!

westie
07-09-2004, 10:01 PM
I had HL when it first came out and opposing force but unfortuantly not blue shift. My original HL was scratched so i had to get Half life generations so i have 2 opfors.

ZeeM
07-09-2004, 10:21 PM
You really should play it and complete it, Take at look at my sig, it is that good :)

wow that date in your sig is my birthday :D

iamaelephant
07-09-2004, 11:01 PM
Play it for the game, not the story. It is an exceptional game and even today you should enjoy it. But if you go out to play it for the story (which people on this forum blow way, way, way out of proportion) you will be dissapointed. The story really is mediocre at best.

oldagerocker
07-09-2004, 11:09 PM
Play it for the game, not the story. It is an exceptional game and even today you should enjoy it. But if you go out to play it for the story (which people on this forum blow way, way, way out of proportion) you will be dissapointed. The story really is mediocre at best.

it's not the story itself that everyone loves, it's the way it's told in half-life that makes it sound so good.

marksmanHL2 :)
07-09-2004, 11:12 PM
I agree its the way it is told. Not the story itself...


But isnt that really just a way of saying the story. I mean there are loads of books with the same storylines (More or less) but only one or two are actually a good read..

Kiwistrike
07-09-2004, 11:13 PM
I bought half-life in anticipation of half-life 2, but it wouldn't install, so I recently (about a week ago) downloaded the latest version off of Steam. Now, whenever I get to the end of the tram ride and the security guard is supposed to open the door, he's not there! I tried using noclip to exit the tram, but it must break the scripting sequence or something because there is no way to progress.

Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance!

By the way, this is my first post, nice to meet you all!

bodhi
07-09-2004, 11:14 PM
You really should play it and complete it, Take at look at my sig, it is that good :)

desert eagle? in half-life? do you mean magnum? you somehow managed to complete the whole game with that one gun, how did you get enough ammo? and its not like you start the game with the magnum....can anyone else smell bullshit? :hmph: :rolleyes:

sup2069
07-09-2004, 11:14 PM
You really should play it and complete it, Take at look at my sig, it is that good :)

Have you seen the HL speed demos? One guy beat it in 45 minutes! Extreme bunnyhoping

desert eagle? in half-life? do you mean magnum? you somehow managed to complete the whole game with that one gun, how did you get enough ammo? and its not like you start the game with the magnum....can anyone else smell bullshit? :hmph: :rolleyes:

Maybe when he obtained it, he stuck only to that weapon? The ammo part im still puzzled on

Kiwistrike
07-09-2004, 11:18 PM
You answered your own question, Sup.

You don't need that much ammo, just look at the speed demos. How much ammo do you think that guy used? Maybe 1/100 of what is in the entire game, I would guess.

UltimaGecko
07-09-2004, 11:21 PM
desert eagle? in half-life? do you mean magnum? you somehow managed to complete the whole game with that one gun, how did you get enough ammo? and its not like you start the game with the magnum....can anyone else smell bullshit? :hmph: :rolleyes:


I actually play the game using a mod called Counter-Life (not sure which version it's up to now), it just seems a lot more fun than the original way (bit easier though). It lets you import the weapons from counter-strike and use them in Half-Life (where med stations and HEV rechargers become stations where you can buy guns, grenades and health - and dropped weapons are money instead).

The CS weapons are kindof skinned badly, so I replace most of them, but rest assured that you can use a desert eagle if you use this mod. I'm not sure which version is the newest, but the one I have only works with WON and doesn't have the berettas, the TMP, the galil or the famas.

Actually, it's the only time I use CS based stuff :p .



Off that topic, has anyone ever done the opposite of what the G-man says? If you just stand there for a bit, you get the 'alternate ending'. I never realized you could do that until I did it my 4th time through. Too bad they don't let you fight the fight you have no chance of win-ning (hey, he says it like that :p ).

iamaelephant
07-09-2004, 11:45 PM
Bah, alternate ending? Can you post it in spoiler tags? I've never heard of it...

KagePrototype
07-09-2004, 11:48 PM
Bah, alternate ending? Can you post it in spoiler tags? I've never heard of it...
If you just stand there and do nothing, G-man eventually says "looks like we won't be working together" and the teleporter closes. He then teleports you to a huge canyon full of alien grunts and stuff. It's not much of an improvement over the other ending really.

Weedums
07-09-2004, 11:48 PM
Wow, I read all three pages. And then I started the game up, and on the train in... seeing the G-man on an opposite train.. then seeing him later in the game on another train :O. I've just have to finish it now.. kinda ancy that i have to go from the beginning (like 6 formats after my first time through). I'll work my way through just for seeing all the dedication to the plot... and just the general game itself, I never knew that half-life (no mods) was admired so much for the game itself, and not for all the mods that we're so easily produced and distributed to please the masses.

I will post another thread when i'm done to see if it lives up to the hype you guys have broiled inside me ;)

PS: I bought Half-life about a month after its release.

fatpie
07-09-2004, 11:59 PM
Everyone needs to play Half Life once in their life, it should be a law! ..ahem

..outburst over...

NeonSpyder
08-09-2004, 01:38 AM
i'd have to agre with fatpie on this. if you don't play Half-Life at least once in your life... your a bleedin communist! :D

bam23
08-09-2004, 01:41 AM
I got as far as the train tracks where you have to get off the train every so often and flip a switch or something.

I just got lazy.

Platinum
08-09-2004, 01:55 AM
I started playing it ... It was kinda cool ... Really freakin boring though ... but this thread has convinced me to pick it up again : D

AMPED
08-09-2004, 06:23 AM
You don't miss that much besides the ending... which is where I think HL2 starts with the G-man.... "Wake up Dr. Freeman, Wake up and smell the ashes" When HL2 is released that's what you will hear world wide!! Anyways the only other thing fun part about hl beside cheating at the begining and using the rocket launcher on the LONG train ride to your stop (they made that part way to long) is trying to find out what's with the man in the blue suit and the breif case all about?? It wounldn't matter if the graphics were upgraded in HL2 I would still enjoy it just for the story. If you don't want to beat the game at least watch the ending! Everytime I see it I want to know more! Like what the hell is going on WHO IS THE G-MAN!!! ayaya G for goverment man but that really doesn't say much. I want to know how he is tied into all of this... is he working for someone else.. and WHY!!! so many unanswered questions....

UltimaGecko
08-09-2004, 06:49 AM
You don't miss that much besides the ending... which is where I think HL2 starts with the G-man.... "Wake up Dr. Freeman, Wake up and smell the ashes" When HL2 is released that's what you will hear world wide!! Anyways the only other thing fun part about hl beside cheating at the begining and using the rocket launcher on the LONG train ride to your stop (they made that part way to long) is trying to find out what's with the man in the blue suit and the breif case all about?? It wounldn't matter if the graphics were upgraded in HL2 I would still enjoy it just for the story. If you don't want to beat the game at least watch the ending! Everytime I see it I want to know more! Like what the hell is going on WHO IS THE G-MAN!!! ayaya G for goverment man but that really doesn't say much. I want to know how he is tied into all of this... is he working for someone else.. and WHY!!! so many unanswered questions....

I'm pretty sure if you start on Hard that you skip the train ride and just start at the transistion that enters you into guard checkpoint at the desk.

...which makes me wonder if the G-man might have had something to do with the server crash - since the guy had messages for Gordon that got lost...

maybe one was like, "Gordon, I'm from the future, don't push the crystal into the reactor!" :p .

dkelly
08-09-2004, 06:54 AM
I'm pretty sure if you start on Hard that you skip the train ride and just start at the transistion that enters you into guard checkpoint at the desk.

...which makes me wonder if the G-man might have had something to do with the server crash - since the guy had messages for Gordon that got lost...

maybe one was like, "Gordon, I'm from the future, don't push the crystal into the reactor!" :p .

Even on hard you go through the train (I had to check it). :P

iamaelephant
08-09-2004, 08:02 AM
The train ride was really cool the first time through, but got old if you ever decided to play again. Maybe a tad too long, but still there was alot of cool stuff.

Rog
08-09-2004, 08:13 AM
Have you seen the HL speed demos? One guy beat it in 45 minutes! Extreme bunnyhoping


I just watched that! its crazy. He does it all in 48 minutes without dying once. But he does use some sly tricks as glitches on the cliffs and jumping on tripmines to reach places earlier. But still the guys skill is amazing. He needs to do some for blueshift and opposing force!

QUiCKSILV3R
08-09-2004, 01:44 PM
it took me 4years to bet it, 1st i started play hl with out the cd **borrowd from a friend in middle school**,then got hooked on MP, then i only got so far because i did ihave the cd. then my pc !@#$%^ up had to format, so i started all over got 2 the same place and was stuck, hookd on MP again then ifound my friend from middle school in highschool borrowd his cd again.. bet it then burn acopy 4 my self :)

Chris_D
08-09-2004, 01:45 PM
Just for everyone's information:
We've decided that all threads relating to Half-Life and its mods should be posted in the General Gaming forum for the time being.

Moved to General Gaming :)

westie
08-09-2004, 03:00 PM
desert eagle? in half-life? do you mean magnum? you somehow managed to complete the whole game with that one gun, how did you get enough ammo? and its not like you start the game with the magnum....can anyone else smell bullshit?

I did answer a question like this earlier, I completed HL through Opfor (Half life game opposing force weapons) but the only way to get enough ammo for the desert eagle was to cheat. (So i had the desert eagle from start to finish and when i ran out of ammo i used a cheat to get more). :thumbs:

TripleB-SM-
08-09-2004, 07:41 PM
I beat the game a LONG time ago... I should probably play it one more time before HL2 comes out just so I don't miss the little fun details that I know VALVe is going to put into the game.

Puzzlemaker
08-09-2004, 09:34 PM
Hmm... the G-man drives me crazy. In op force, he saves you, tries to kill you, then imprisons you. What the hell is up with him?

It seems like hes messing with the events, changing what is going to happen so things happen a current way. Is his suitcase a teleportation device!?...

I SO want to find out who the G-man is, and HL has SO Many little hints ALL over the place.

Oh, and HL is an awsome game.

Logic
09-09-2004, 03:50 AM
I started playing it ... It was kinda cool ... Really freakin boring though ... but this thread has convinced me to pick it up again : D My guess would be that people who found HL boring will likely never appreciate it all that much, and might also find HL2 boring. The game is incredible for the atmosphere it creates, and the way even a cheezy storyline is presented in such a way that it becomes plausable and can be taken seriously. If Half-Life's atmosphere doesn't get you totally hooked, then it's probably just not your sort of game.

Kind of like 2001: A Space Odyssey... those who love it (myself included) think it's an absolute masterpiece, find it compelling right from word go, and can watch it over and over again. Those who dislike it tend to be asleep within the first ten minutes.

Personally I've played Half-Life through many, many times, though not once this year, I might have another run through it after the gold announcement. I'd have to say HL is my all time favorite game, with 'The Dig' by Lucasarts being a close second. That game also creates an amazing sense of atmosphere, and funny enough, is also a game more than a few people find boring. Unlike Half-Life, it's severely underrated, because most people judged it by what they expected from Lucasarts - another comedy, and what they got was a serious, contemplative sci-fi.

Edit: But yes, HL (and the expansions) should be required playing for anyone interested in HL2. It just won't be the same experience without knowing Gordon's past.