doom3 is weird

[pixartist]

this game is just SICK it's so scary and brutal and bloody..it CANNOT be healthy for the human psychology! I really hope this game will be COMPLETELY banned in germany so that some dumb kiddies wont get it into their hands to replay these massacres in scool.

the game graphics are nice but they are used for a very sick and mad game...

[Shuzer]

... :|

If any "dumb kiddies" kill anything but zombies (or demons) in schools over there, then they must have been playing something else. :)

[Asuka]

this game is just SICK it's so scary and brutal and bloody..it CANNOT be healthy for the human psychology! I really hope this game will be COMPLETELY banned in germany so that some dumb kiddies wont get it into their hands to replay these massacres in scool.

the game graphics are nice but they are used for a very sick and mad game...

Thats the dumbest thing i have ever heard. Those dumb "kiddies" will still be able to get the game.


Btw: DOOM 3 KICKSASS!!!!

[Adrien C]

Could you guys remind me about that school shooting in Germany ?

[Mr-Fusion]

Could you guys remind me about that school shooting in Germany ?
What does that have to do with anything?

[Adrien C]

so that some dumb kiddies wont get it into their hands to replay these massacres in scool.

If you had some culture, you would know that there was a school shooting in Germany caple of years ago ,just like Columbine.

[Mechagodzilla]

this game is just SICK it's so scary and brutal and bloody..it CANNOT be healthy for the human psychology! I really hope this game will be COMPLETELY banned in germany so that some dumb kiddies wont get it into their hands to replay these massacres in scool.

the game graphics are nice but they are used for a very sick and mad game...

It this sarcasm? Because thanks to the internet I seriously can't tell anymore. :/

I actually find the concept of demons more funny than anything.
Demons are just what would happen if someone combined an evil Jesus with The Mole People.

[ASnogarD]

I think the mods of these forums should consider creating a Doom3 section for all these threads, least till the fuss dies down a bit.

[pixartist]

If you had some culture, you would know that there was a school shooting in Germany caple of years ago ,just like Columbine.
ehm if I had some culture? i AM from germany and of course i do remember that. There are many very dumb people out there. If these people play such games too much AND at the same time have psychological proplems like paranoia and/or depression the chance of being inspired by such games or movies raises dramaticly...
if you don't think doom3 is scary and brutal, you should INSTANTLY stop watching too much TV and playing too much PC-Games!
Even though this is just an opinion, i am pretty sure that most of the non gamers and especially psychologists will share it.

[Kazuki_Fuse]

If these people play such games too much AND at the same time have psychological proplems like paranoia and/or depression the chance of being inspired by such games or movies raises dramaticly...

We have an expert ladies and gents. I saw a documentary on Black Holes once. It was real interest......Waitasec! I must be an expert on it! Woohoo! *gives high 5's all round*

[Shuzer]

if you don't think doom3 is scary and brutal, you should INSTANTLY stop watching too much TV and playing too much PC-Games!
Even though this is just an opinion, i am pretty sure that most of the non gamers and especially psychologists will share it.

Doom 3 is scary and brutal? The only thing I've found brutal in D3 is the chainsaw. Infact, D3 has less blood/gibs than Quake 3..

Hasn't been scary for me yet. Made me jump a few times, but it hasn't been scary.

[pixartist]

hey Kazuki_Fuse just because i know ONE FACT i do not claim i am an expert...if your mate in school tells you some interesting things...do you jump up and scream "WOW WE HAVE AN EXPERT OMG **** L33T HAXXOR"?
your reply was shit...it did not have anything to do with this thread
ah btw. my mother is psychologists and i often discussed about these things with her...
Infact, D3 has less blood/gibs than Quake 3..
:eek: HAHAHAHAHAHAHH sure
even crash bandicoot had more blood didn't it? ROFL

[Adrien C]

Pixartist, I wasen't referine to you, I was talking to Mr-Fusion.

[pixartist]

Pixartist, I wasen't referine to you, I was talking to Mr-Fusion.
ah ok..i was a bit confused bout that ;)

[EYEconfide]

Quake 3 did have more gibs, it's just that in Doom 3 they're more detailed.

Why don't you go preach your crap somewhere on a street corner, Pixartist? I'm sure plenty of people will listen to you there...

[Adrien C]

I agree with you, from what I read is just a Shoot-all-that-moves games, no story, no human side to it, just pure free violence, damn, I'm sounding like my mum.

[Shuzer]

:eek: HAHAHAHAHAHAHH sure
even crash bandicoot had more blood didn't it? ROFL

lol, let's see.. D3's "gibs" are zombies turning into skeletal frames and disintegrating. Yes, they're bloody, but.. it's not gibtacular like Q3. I will admit, there are headless zombies and such in D3 that are more .. grusome, but overall, enemies gib and bleed alot more in Quake 3.

Quake 3's are body parts flying into all directions with spurts of blood and squishing/crunching sound effects..

I will admit, that, in the grander scale of the game, Doom 3 is much more violent than Quake 3 (So, I'm not exactly sure what the intent of my original post was, other than the sake of argument).

[Kazuki_Fuse]

Yeah that's cool, I know you never SAID you were an expert. That would make it ok, it's that you act like one that bothers me.

[bliink]

Sure its violent, but if you are mentally unstable, then its probably not right in the first place for you to be playing that type of game ('kiddies' and so forth should be supervised somewhat when playing games, not to mention when displaying signs of depression/psychosis etc, it would be irresponsible for a parent to allow a mentally unstable child to go unassisted, or to allow any young child to play violent games)

[tokin]

I'm almost half way through the game. I think it's a great game, up there with the original Half-Life but to tell you the truth, I havn't "lunged" out of my seat once. I've flinched a few times but that's it. I guess it's because i grew up watching The Exorcist at age 7...damn dad. Anyways it's a great game, i installed the new Cataylst drivers 4.7 becaue Doom3 kept crashing, now it runs perfect. All you forgeiners are going to love this game, although no matter how much you don't want to believe it, this game is repetitive and you feel like you are doing the same stuff over and over. I'm not saying there are dull moments, but you will see what i mean. Anyways I'm back to play. Cheers to id.

[Mac]

I fail to see the connection between this game and a possible school shooting.
but meh, w/e floats your boat i guess.

[Shuzer]

I fail to see the connection between this game and a possible school shooting.
but meh, w/e floats your boat i guess.

What, you didn't hear about the school massacre where a kid took a plasma gun in and started mowing everyone down? ;)

[bliink]

I fail to see the connection between this game and a possible school shooting.
but meh, w/e floats your boat i guess.

well, you're just not looking hard enough ... you see... there is a weapon in doom 3 and monster's that look like humans, well, sortof, and.. as you can see, someone could easily say that those monsters could be training you on how to shoot unarmed children in a school...
Gun in doom3 = shooting up a school.. duh! </sarcasm>

[Element Alpha]

THIS IS THE EXPERT.


ALL HAIL THE EXPERT.


Comparing the relations between real life shootings and games is like comparing trafficaccidents and alcohol abstention. Did you know that 85% of traffic accidents are caused by people who DIDN'T drink alcohol! Better drink up before you take the weel ...

Children shouldn't play this game, but it's up to the parents to decide. If a kid goes insane, it's not the game's fault. There are definatly other reasons behind it. But truth sometimes lies in the eye of the beholder, since you have to face the facts to see them. Nighty night ...

ALL HAIL THE EXPERT.


THIS WAS THE EXPERT.

[bliink]

I agree with you, from what I read is just a Shoot-all-that-moves games, no story, no human side to it, just pure free violence, damn, I'm sounding like my mum.

I would have to disagree there... there is a human element there in the form of the desperate fight against the invasion that is constantly blaring through your radio.. before that, the fear and tension are so thick you could cut it..
Aside from humans, the games design and levels just leak character.. you can feel the base, its like all the backstory thats fed to you in about 20mins has been a part of you for years, just from walking around that place.

Its almost like you're in a movie.

And its not just violence for the sake of it, its a tired point, but when you play the game, you freak out, its almost like you were there, you're running on fear and adrenaline, if you kill anything, its because its running at you screaming :)

[CrazyHarij]

The doom 3 gibs are pretty cool but I honestly don't like them, I want to be able to riddle a zombie corpse with bullets just to show how much I hate him and maybe shoot a limb or two off. Not this way, you just have to shoot one extra tiny bullet at them and it happens, also with humans. :|

[pixartist]

ok ill make a list and you can state if you agree:
1. Doom 3 is EXTREMLY violent ( Reason: VERY much blood(not only from the monsters u shoot), human like enemys as well as monsters - all this with very realistic graphics, later in hell you can see masses of crazy deformed faces - yes thats a sort of violence too, enemy like little flying kids which you can shoot so they will scream like babys aswell,...much much more)
2. Violent games make you used to violence and less sensitive
3. Violent games CAN inspire people in a negative way (massacres...)
4. Doom 3 gets very boring after some time because it's all the time nothing but the same procedure ( shoot, turn, shoot, run, shoot, turn, shoot, run...)
5. This storyless killing can give naive people the feeling that killing is very normal and you can solve your problems by using violence...(subconscious)

btw: im SURE the game will be censored in germany and i believe it will be completly banned! (not many games are comp. banned ...)

[Dalamari]

Doom 3 is violent and if the kiddies can't take it then please feel free to go on a shooting spree.

[EYEconfide]

Games are only as violent as you are.

[pixartist]

Games are only as violent as you are.
AHHAAHAHAHAH thats so stupid
wanna be a philosopher?

[CrazyHarij]

Yeah, the graphics are very realistic aswell so it will not become further and further away from the real thing as we progress in the computer games business.

[Sparta]

ok ill make a list and you can state if you agree:
1. Doom 3 is EXTREMLY violent ( Reason: VERY much blood(not only from the monsters u shoot), human like enemys as well as monsters - all this with very realistic graphics, later in hell you can see masses of crazy deformed faces - yes thats a sort of violence too, enemy like little flying kids which you can shoot so they will scream like babys aswell,...much much more)
2. Violent games make you used to violence and less sensitive
3. Violent games CAN inspire people in a negative way (massacres...)
4. Doom 3 gets very boring after some time because it's all the time nothing but the same procedure ( shoot, turn, shoot, run, shoot, turn, shoot, run...)
5. This storyless killing can give naive people the feeling that killing is very normal and you can solve your problems by using violence...(subconscious)

btw: im SURE the game will be censored in germany and i believe it will be completly banned! (not many games are comp. banned ...)

Umm...i've been playing violent games since i was 5 and i've only thrown 2 punches in my whole life....It has nothing to do with the game, its more to do with the person's mental stability

[-JeZ-]

Forgive me if I'm wrong but doesn't the game have a 'M' rating? 'M' for MATURE? Kids should not even have access to the game and if they do it's the retailer/parent who is in the wrong, not iD. That's the problem with all this sensorship these days. It's the point of sale that should be targeted. How is it fair for a company's product to be banned becuase it is deemed unsuitable for kids WHEN THEY SHOULD NOT BE PLAYING IT IN THE FIRST PLACE?!?!

[Farrowlesparrow]

AHHAAHAHAHAH thats so stupid
wanna be a philosopher?

Actually he's right. No game is more violent than the human mind can be. Games can also make you no more violent than you have the capacity for...Although they can influence us, in that it breaks down the normal control we have.

[Deadly200]

ok ill make a list and you can state if you agree:
1. Doom 3 is EXTREMLY violent ( Reason: VERY much blood(not only from the monsters u shoot), human like enemys as well as monsters - all this with very realistic graphics, later in hell you can see masses of crazy deformed faces - yes thats a sort of violence too, enemy like little flying kids which you can shoot so they will scream like babys aswell,...much much more)
2. Violent games make you used to violence and less sensitive
3. Violent games CAN inspire people in a negative way (massacres...)
4. Doom 3 gets very boring after some time because it's all the time nothing but the same procedure ( shoot, turn, shoot, run, shoot, turn, shoot, run...)
5. This storyless killing can give naive people the feeling that killing is very normal and you can solve your problems by using violence...(subconscious)

btw: im SURE the game will be censored in germany and i believe it will be completly banned! (not many games are comp. banned ...)

Thats why germany sucks it will get banned and thats why over here in the usa the goverment can give a shit.

[pixartist]

Thats why germany sucks it will get banned and thats why over here in the usa the goverment can give a shit.
lol perhaps thats the reason germany has 385 murders with guns per year and the us has 11100...

[ACLeroK212]

I recently heard that the continent with the most murders per capita was Africa, and they're not nearly into video games the way America, Europe, and Asia are.

[Kiva128]

Hey pixartist, stop acting like an asshole. Whenever someone replies to you they're polite but when they say something that OBVIOUSLY proves you wrong, all you can reply with is "lolOLOLOLO!!!11!!! u r teh philoship0r!! OMGH4x!" and then throw in a good "hahahahaha" for no apparent reason other than to make yourself look stupider.

The only 'dumb kiddies' that I know you're talking about is YOU!

[SubKamran]

So far (as in, I just finished the first mission, *cough*scientist*cough*), it has now just turned scary for me. Everyone can handle different levels of "scariness" I must be a Level 1 dude because I am freaked out now. :D Hell, I got scared shitless on a Thief 3 mission only when I found out there was actually people to kill 30 mins into the mission. :P And they were zombies too! So it was like, "wtf, *flashbombs*".

As for pixartist, I know what he's talking about. There are retards out there.

[Earl Danish]

lol pixartist - do you work for activision marketing?

[pixartist]

I recently heard that the continent with the most murders per capita was Africa, and they're not nearly into video games the way America, Europe, and Asia are.
come on...there are civil wars in africa! you cannot count that!

[ACLeroK212]

come on...there are civil wars in africa! you cannot count that!

well if your so against violent video games and just promoting violence to children and society in general then how can you believe killing people in a war is any more justified than any other kind of killing? either way these people are being murdered.

it's not the video games that are the problem, it's the societies in which these killings are occuring in.

[Direwolf]

Yeah, I'm sure DOOMIII is gonna be the game that pushes everyone over the edge. :D
I actually think we're safer now that its out, since there won't be any roaming mobs looting and setting fire to stores because it got delayed again.

[Deadline]

Yea... doom 3 has yet to really impress me... *shrugs* Ok yea, so I have jumped alot, nothing real scary. Eh I didnt finish the game yet so this isnt my final opinion.

[pixartist]

well if your so against violent video games and just promoting violence to children and society in general then how can you believe killing people in a war is any more justified than any other kind of killing? either way these people are being murdered.

it's not the video games that are the problem, it's the societies in which these killings are occuring in.

okok i will rephrase:
IF games like Doom 3 are BANNED in a country there is a slightly lower chance that massacres like columbine or erfurt happen.
is that right?

[vetebulle]

ok ill make a list and you can state if you agree:
1. Doom 3 is EXTREMLY violent ( Reason: VERY much blood(not only from the monsters u shoot), human like enemys as well as monsters - all this with very realistic graphics, later in hell you can see masses of crazy deformed faces - yes thats a sort of violence too, enemy like little flying kids which you can shoot so they will scream like babys aswell,...much much more)
2. Violent games make you used to violence and less sensitive
3. Violent games CAN inspire people in a negative way (massacres...)
4. Doom 3 gets very boring after some time because it's all the time nothing but the same procedure ( shoot, turn, shoot, run, shoot, turn, shoot, run...)
5. This storyless killing can give naive people the feeling that killing is very normal and you can solve your problems by using violence...(subconscious)

btw: im SURE the game will be censored in germany and i believe it will be completly banned! (not many games are comp. banned ...)

You are so full of bull I don't know where to begin.

"Doom 3 is EXTREMLY violent ( Reason: VERY much blood(not only from the monsters u shoot), human like enemys as well as monsters - all this with very realistic graphics, later in hell you can see masses of crazy deformed faces - yes thats a sort of violence too, enemy like little flying kids which you can shoot so they will scream like babys aswell,...much much more)"

So if it were up to you all games and movies would consist of nothing but tea parties and bickering? Grow up dude, no ones is forcing you to play the game, so please stop enforcing your censorship on other people.

"2. Violent games make you used to violence and less sensitive"

So far I haven't seen a single scientific study that has actually come to the conclusion that violent games has that affect. As such, your statement is null. Unless you can back these things up with solid proof, I'll assume you're pulling all of this out of your ass.

"3. Violent games CAN inspire people in a negative way (massacres...)"

So can books, magazines, music, heck, I bet somewhere in this world there's some guy who'd flip and go crazy just because he saw a teddybear... do you want to ban all that too?

"4. Doom 3 gets very boring after some time because it's all the time nothing but the same procedure ( shoot, turn, shoot, run, shoot, turn, shoot, run...)"

Oh, so now you want to ban Doom 3 because it's boring?

"5. This storyless killing can give naive people the feeling that killing is very normal and you can solve your problems by using violence...(subconscious)"

Once again you seem to just make things up as they go. Just about every statement you've made here sounds like they've been copied from some propagandist schoolbook used by the government to scare away people from the "dangers" of being exposed to violence. I know how the climate is in Germany, they have to wait for special localized editions where humans have been remodelled to zombies or robots, and the blood is green instead of red. What a way to ruin a nice game.

It's the responsibility of the parents that is lacking. I mean, people go all "omg he just ran in and peppered them all with this machine gun, I bet he was inspired by some game". Hello? Shouldn't the fact that he got his hands on a gun be more worrying than the fact that he had played a game?

No, censorship doesn't solve this. There will always be nutjobs out there, and wether they get their inspiration from books or cracked teacups doesn't matter. They need help, not frickin' censorship.

[ACLeroK212]

okok i will rephrase:
IF games like Doom 3 are BANNED in a country there is a slightly lower chance that massacres like columbine or erfurt happen.
is that right?

That's pure speculation though. It can be argued that the kind of kid that finds it ok to kill people like that would have probably found some other type of violent outlet to influence their behavior had video games not been available to them. I don't think violent video games create violent people, rather violent people are just more attracted to violent video games than the average consumer. Either way these people are screwed up, but whether or not video games are the cause is complete speculation.

[Mr.Magnetichead]

okok i will rephrase:
IF games like Doom 3 are BANNED in a country there is a slightly lower chance that massacres like columbine or erfurt happen.
is that right?


No.

because if those same mentally ill people don't have those games to play then they'll just replace it with something else.

[DigiQ8]

Doom 3 is scary and brutal? The only thing I've found brutal in D3 is the chainsaw. Infact, D3 has less blood/gibs than Quake 3..

Hasn't been scary for me yet. Made me jump a few times, but it hasn't been scary.
same, its not that scary =\
when i read people reviews here about doom 3 , i thought im will need many pants :P ,but the game is'nt scary

[Alsi]

Doom 3 is already rated "USK18" in Germany - that means no "kiddie" will be allowed to buy it.
Even if it was banned in germany, the internet provides many sources if you want to play it :) So the only instance who is really in control are the parents.

In my opinion, people over the age of 18 can tell the difference between reality and games. And no healthy adult would go kill people because of a game. And only excessive playing would cause a change in a childs behaviour. So again, parents are responsible for their kids (that they don't play games, that are not for their age - and if they play games, that it won't be all day long).

The Massacre in Erfurt was really horrible, but it had nothing to do with violent games. This guy was in a gun-club (schützenverein - don't know the exact translation) and legally bought REAL guns. THAT was the problem(and his social-life/education). If he had not possed these guns, what had he done? Go to school and point with his mouse and say "bam, bam, bam"...

Blaming Games, Movies and Music is faaaaaaaar to easy.

[-TaNaKa-]

What in gods sake are u guys talking about? Even willing to discuss this is like ..... omg. Germany is the last country where they would ban a game lol. Gaming is so popular there, like they ever would do that.

Jezus, this thread starter ..... bleh i dont like to flame.

[Dalamari]

What in gods sake are u guys talking about? Even willing to discuss this is like ..... omg. Germany is the last country where they would ban a game lol. Gaming is so popular there, like they ever would do that.

Jezus, this thread starter ..... bleh i dont like to flame.

Are we talking about the same Germany here? The one that replaced human grunts with robots? I think this would be top on their list to ban.

[ACLeroK212]

What in gods sake are u guys talking about? Even willing to discuss this is like ..... omg. Germany is the last country where they would ban a game lol. Gaming is so popular there, like they ever would do that.

Jezus, this thread starter ..... bleh i dont like to flame.

Germany has much more strict censorship policies than other countries known to support the gaming industry. Heck, in the original Half-life they had to replace the marines and whatnot with robots because germany does ban games where violonce against other people is overly expressed.

[Direwolf]

Actually, Germany has had a long history or trying to keep certain games off the shelves, or at least until they've been altered. (HL had no marines, just robots)
So its not so farfetched.
I'd also suppose that the banning of all violent media would probably increase violence, since many people would lose their socially acceptable outlet for it.

[Farrowlesparrow]

You know...Bad influences aren't so obvious, just because a game is filled with gruesome killing doesn't mean you will go out and kill someone. You don't have to be mentally unstable (Where ever the line is) to succumb to to the influence of a game. If you are exposed to killing and violence(Be it real or fake) thorughout your life, you cannot say that will not have some kind of negative effect on you. Who knows, you may be a little short tempered, you may want to kill people, you could feel unhappy for what seems like no obvious or you might just be a little slow at certain things. Negative effects don't always translate directly across as what you might think, and nothing like a violent coputer game can be said to have no effect on a persons thinking. Often the changes are so gradual that we simpyl don't notice.

[Direwolf]

Having a bad experience in life is still about ten thousand times more effective at influencing people anyway.

[Farrowlesparrow]

But that really doesn't have anything to do with anything and its detracting from the whole point of, games can have a negative influence. (Yes they have positive influences, but its about weighing it up for yourself)

[pixartist]

You are so full of bull I don't know where to begin.

"Doom 3 is EXTREMLY violent ( Reason: VERY much blood(not only from the monsters u shoot), human like enemys as well as monsters - all this with very realistic graphics, later in hell you can see masses of crazy deformed faces - yes thats a sort of violence too, enemy like little flying kids which you can shoot so they will scream like babys aswell,...much much more)"

So if it were up to you all games and movies would consist of nothing but tea parties and bickering? Grow up dude, no ones is forcing you to play the game, so please stop enforcing your censorship on other people.
ehm in which way are you invalidating my point here? you do nothing else than flaming me because i don't like to kill kids with a saw...you think you are an adult when you are "hard" enough to watch this...
"2. Violent games make you used to violence and less sensitive"

So far I haven't seen a single scientific study that has actually come to the conclusion that violent games has that affect. As such, your statement is null. Unless you can back these things up with solid proof, I'll assume you're pulling all of this out of your ass.
if u talk on with me like this ill pull ur nuts out of your ass. i cannot prove this because i don't have an official statistic. If you had some common sense you would know that this is a fact...
"3. Violent games CAN inspire people in a negative way (massacres...)"

So can books, magazines, music, heck, I bet somewhere in this world there's some guy who'd flip and go crazy just because he saw a teddybear... do you want to ban all that too?
are you stupid? don't you think the risk is a bit higher with such a game as with a teddybear...
"4. Doom 3 gets very boring after some time because it's all the time nothing but the same procedure ( shoot, turn, shoot, run, shoot, turn, shoot, run...)"

Oh, so now you want to ban Doom 3 because it's boring?
no :E i just wanted to say that
"5. This storyless killing can give naive people the feeling that killing is very normal and you can solve your problems by using violence...(subconscious)"

Once again you seem to just make things up as they go. Just about every statement you've made here sounds like they've been copied from some propagandist schoolbook used by the government to scare away people from the "dangers" of being exposed to violence. I know how the climate is in Germany, they have to wait for special localized editions where humans have been remodelled to zombies or robots, and the blood is green instead of red. What a way to ruin a nice game.

and again your comment missed the point...


edit: I DON'T blame the gaming industrie! Most games have the right to exist, but parents with mentally instable kids or youths should keep them away from violence! I DON'T say that counter-strike or whatelse was responsible for this massacre! i just think , that people with a tendency to do such things (because auf social/mental problems) CAN be inspired by these games!

[FoB_Ed]

well you know, I like the violence in Doom 3. It caters to my primal instincts. Video games are the only place you can let that run free.

yes thats a sort of violence too, enemy like little flying kids which you can shoot so they will scream like babys aswell,...much much more)"

Yep, those were the most annoying enemies too. I cant stand babies IRL, and Doom 3 is the only place I can kill Demon Babies, so stfu. Doom 3 is a God-send. You get to be the savior of the world, how can that be an evil game?

[Alsi]

Are we talking about the same Germany here? The one that replaced human grunts with robots? I think this would be top on their list to ban.

since those days, laws have changed.
Formerly, there was no rating system for games like for movies(that are not censored or banned for >18), just a sticker with a "suggestion".
And all games that were what you call "mature" got banned or censored.
Since then the demmand for games, rated >18 has increased i guess ;)

NOW, games are clearly rated and not censored or banned anymore :)
(except for some celtic symbols and other things, that a well know german dictator used)

please correct me, if i'm wrong :dozey:

[Shuzer]

edit: I DON'T blame the gaming industrie! Most games have the right to exist, but parents with mentally instable kids or youths should keep them away from violence! I DON'T say that counter-strike or whatelse was responsible for this massacre! i just think , that people with a tendency to do such things (because auf social/mental problems) CAN be inspired by these games!

There. You answered your own thread.

It's the PARENTS responsibility to keep their mentally unstable/ill child away from violent games such as D3. Not the government.

[Sui]

ive only watched a few videos of doom3, and i was kinda on edge all that time. i havent played doom3, but to me it looks ****ing scary. Trust me, if I played this game, I would be scared...

still not sure about buying it or not. i have £200 - £250 (yay for birthdays :D) so i could easily buy it. dunno whether i want to sleep at night or not though...

*edit* btw im downloading 500mb of doom 3 videos from fileplanet :)

[DarkStar]

Dude.....Suicide.....buy the game. It's very awesome.

I actually almost just shat myself playing Doom 3. I always thought the game paused when reading PDA's.....I was wrong. I was listening to an audio log and was a little on edge because the dude was talking about satanic voices when suddenly the audio cuts out and the entire PDA jerks forward! I almost fell out of my chair before spinning around and blowing the brain out the back of a zombie's head.

I love this game.

[Xenome]

A healthy, normal average person knows the difference between reality and fiction, however some instable persons can't, and they are inspired by games/movies/books to kill..

It's been like that for years.. so why are you only talking about games?
MOVIES AND BOOKS DO THE SAME THING!

It's the person's fault, they do it, because they don't have a good background, are depressed, instable, etc..

Don't jjust blame the game/movie/book, there are alot more factors important in the life of a person 'inspired' by this form of entertainment

[Gossoon]

Maybe Germans are just more sensitive to this sort of thing due to their embarassment over their history...

[JonTheCanuck]

i had a friend who played quake wayyyy to much. what he ended up doing was kidnapping kids from the school, and built a big arena in his backyard, he then gave all the children weapons and forced them to have deathmatches with eachother until a champion was crowned. It was terrible.... videogames r a poison to society!

[pixartist]

There. You answered your own thread.

It's the PARENTS responsibility to keep their mentally unstable/ill child away from violent games such as D3. Not the government.
okok it was a misunderstanding!
i just wanted to ADMIT that games can have unforseen consequences when played too much or by instable personalities! I REALLY dont wanna blame the games! I'm pretty sure that watching cnn can do the same! And i wanted to say that I! think, that doom3 is way to violent! (for me!) i just do not think that games like doom3 are NEEDED! ID could have made something less violent instead!
other people can have another opinion of course...

[kidrock450]

If you had some culture, you would know that there was a school shooting in Germany caple of years ago ,just like Columbine.


There are school schools everyware..

[DarkStar]

There are school schools everyware..

Kidrock.....my God. You know there is an edit button right?