View Full Version : To buy or not to buy; far cry
i am seriously considering investing my money on far cry, i've beaten both of the demos that were released and had an absolute blast while doing so, the tension that escalades while i'm playing the games is incredible. but i've noticed a lot of you guys really don't like the game very much at all, i want to know what really turned you guys off on the game, and above anything else, how many people think it's worth buying and why?
herbster
18-07-2004, 07:01 PM
Well, I dont like the game because, well, I just dont like the atmosphere and my computer doesnt do it any justice, but if you liked the demos then I dont know.
could you be a bit more specific, what was wrong with the atmosphere, i like the tension that it brings....was it too scary for you :p
herbster
18-07-2004, 07:06 PM
Well, I am a bit of a pus... well, yeah that may have affected me but I dont know, also, the auto saves were annoying, you would have to load multiple times to kill enemies that were left after you saved. I found it an upward battle to get to each checkpoint.
simmo
18-07-2004, 07:07 PM
If you have the computer to run it then you will enjoy it..I am :D
KagePrototype
18-07-2004, 07:10 PM
If you liked the demo, you'll like the full game. :)
Asuka
18-07-2004, 07:13 PM
I got the game and its a must have.
Direwolf
18-07-2004, 07:14 PM
I plan on getting it myself.
snak3y3z1001
18-07-2004, 07:15 PM
You should def buy the game. Its great.
Mr-Fusion
18-07-2004, 07:16 PM
If you have really low standards in computer games you may enjoy it.
Harryz
18-07-2004, 07:16 PM
I personally would save your money and wait for Doom 3. It has not replay value what-so-ever and a pretty bad multiplayer. The first time you play it, its a great Single-player experience, but the ending is bad. I would give the game 8/10. Great graphics though.
Kschreck
18-07-2004, 07:17 PM
If your computer can handle it well then buy it. You won't be sorry. They are releasing patchesto the game that will implement even more awesome graphical features.
snak3y3z1001
18-07-2004, 07:18 PM
He could buy both farcry and doom 3 ;). But if you dont have cash to burn i would go w/doom 3 :D
Yep, you should get it. Very good game and surprising long. :)
If you have really low standards in computer games you may enjoy it.
exactly what aspect(s) of far cry did you specifically not enjoy?
a lot of people have problems with the auto-save feature, which i think is a pretty good idea b/c of the additional challenge and tension it adds, and from what i played of the demo it's pretty high rate, what do you mean by low standards?
Direwolf
18-07-2004, 07:45 PM
I wouldn't go in expecting a Deus Ex plot for instance. :D
i'll leave the the game stories to rpg's, can't say i played half-life for it's "riveting'" story
Snakebyte
18-07-2004, 07:50 PM
If your computer can run it and you liked the demos you'll love the game. Buy it.
Mr-Fusion
18-07-2004, 07:57 PM
exactly what aspect(s) of far cry did you specifically not enjoy?
I thought the following were totally crap with little to no thought behind them
-The story
-The dialogue
-The character design
-The AI
-The structuring of some potentially fantastic gameplay moments.
Like i've said elsewhere the game is jam packed full of B-grade efforts. Fantastic engine with a piece of shit game slapped on top. Of course if you have low standards and don't really care/notice things like what i'm acutely aware of you'll have a ball.
would you call your definition of a "b grade effort" a techinically bad game?
ShadowBlade
18-07-2004, 08:07 PM
I never understood why allot of people hate this game so much.. other than a few bits of cheesy dialogue its a very solid and very enjoyable game and well worth the buy.
i bust say that i love games. Especially good ones. And while playing far cry (i own the game btw) i can tell it is a good game.
But to me, it is rather boring. The levels show no inspiration... there are hardly any guns, the veichles are limites by the fact that there is only an island, and there is nothing to do.
whats the point in a huge, free roaming landscape if the only places of intrest are places that you are supposed to go? i mean, couldnt they have put a small hut on an island somewhene with a secret gun or something... or just soemthing interesting inside? but no, each level is as bland as anything.
i can see how it is a good game it just doesnt intrest me. even on my most bored of moments i cant be bothered to finish it. im about 2 thirds of the way through, but i just cant be bothered to play it...
basically, i would buy it if there are no games coming out soon / if you have lots of money, but if you dont have much cash and your looking forward to some imminent releases, i'd save your money.
singleplayer offers little replayability as the game is suprisingly linear, and multiplayer is appaulingly unbalanced, but assault is quite good... but only if you are an engineer. Far cry has its moments, but theres just not enough in there except a bland, linear, uninteresting campaign wich in my opinion is rather boring.
*edit* its a great game though :D
FictiousWill
18-07-2004, 08:09 PM
plus the save game thing isn't a problem. You can still quicksave with the console with no effort. Takes maybe three keypresses to quicksave.
Mr-Fusion
18-07-2004, 08:11 PM
Technically....hmm, in an artistic field such as gaming i can't call something good for meeting certain technical specifications.
I'll try to make my pov clearer. When I hear a stupid line of dialogue it just stabs right through me like an arrow and i'm totally drawn OUT of the game. When i see a stupidly designed character a similar thing happens. As i go through the game all these things start adding up and by the end it feels like a very mediocre experience.
The bad story point was not so much that the story is bad but how it is told. Many stories have a bad/simple premise but are delivered to the player in extraordinary ways much like Half-Life 1. I felt the way in which the far cry story was told was very boring. Kill lots of bad guys, chat on the radio to that guy to reveal the next mission/story plot, kill lots of bad guys chat on radio to that guy to reveal the next missions/story plot piece. Rinse repeat.
Thrills i got from Far Cry were basically centered around the graphics. When i became aware of what the engine was capable of seeing a huge amount of the environment, lovely looking trees and islands i thought it was really cool. Driving the dingy through those Apocalypse Now style rivers was also pretty damn cool. But for me personally, technicalities like graphics and game engine capabilities (vehicles) isn't enough to win me over.
so you purposely nitpick and nitpick until all your nitpicks add up and no matter how hard you try you can't enjoy the game anymore?
i can't say that's of the most healthy attitudes to bring into a game when your playing it, especially pc games which are known to have glitches and sorts.
i'm not saying that you shouldn't have high standards for a hyped up game, but the reasons you described that you didn't like far cry made me think you were bordering obsessive compulsive.
adulus
18-07-2004, 08:21 PM
Far cry is good game. Not great, but good. Kept me busy a lil while anyway. But it IS a lil difficult to some people(i don't see how, it was easy for me) I much prefer COD over FC, but i have been waiting for a realistic damage, team tactics WW2 game for a LONG time, and COD fitas those specifically. But Far Cry has it's own engine, and it is fun sneaking around the forest to pop a headshot into some unlucky guy. For some reason, FC felt like HL in a distant way. The story is a lil cliched, and the twist at the end was just a lil like WTF? But overall o decent game, and if they got rid of the bugs, it'd be a F***ing awesome game. So yeah, buy it if you want.
Mr-Fusion
18-07-2004, 08:25 PM
so you purposely nitpick and nitpick until all your nitpicks add up and no matter how hard you try you can't enjoy the game anymore?
i can't say that's of the most healthy attitudes to bring into a game when your playing it, especially pc games which are known to have glitches and sorts.
i'm not saying that you shouldn't have high standards for a hyped up game, but the reasons you described that you didn't like far cry made me think you were bordering obsessive compulsive.
Half-Life 1 is to Far Cry as Michaelangelo is to a 5 year old drawing pictures with his crayon.
I hope that sort of makes my opinion a little clearer. But as the old adage goes "everyones different". Some people may absolutely love the 5 year olds crayon drawings. But fans of Michealengelo may look upon the crayon drawings by the 5 year old and not be impressed.
brink's
18-07-2004, 08:37 PM
If you asked this a few months ago I would say buy it, cause I enjoyed the 3/4 of the gmae before it got really repetetive. But with the MOH demo coming out today and Doom3 so close I can taste it, I would recommend waiting for D3.
hers a little thing to rack your brains over.
if far cry had the graphics of, say- half lfie, would you like it?
i would think it is a pile of shit... because the graphics are the whole point of far cry, the rest is average.
:)
i am seriously considering investing my money on far cry, i've beaten both of the demos that were released and had an absolute blast while doing so, the tension that escalades while i'm playing the games is incredible. but i've noticed a lot of you guys really don't like the game very much at all, i want to know what really turned you guys off on the game, and above anything else, how many people think it's worth buying and why?
I liked both demo's alot - I loved the full game, it really is fun the people that dont like farcry are the ones that cant see the game for what it is. So it does'nt have a groundbreaking story and is a bit obvious but the gameplay does that justice. Gameplay > story.
SnowBall
18-07-2004, 09:45 PM
Far Cry is probably the best FPS we've seen in a while. The gameplay is solid, the graphics are revolutionary and beutiful, and its one of the longer shooters to come out recently. I acctually think I might go play it now. Now go! Buy it!! You wont be disapointed, especially if you liked the demo.
I got it free with my AMD 64 CPU :P
SupraRZ95
19-07-2004, 03:33 AM
Well, I am a bit of a pus... well, yeah that may have affected me but I dont know, also, the auto saves were annoying, you would have to load multiple times to kill enemies that were left after you saved. I found it an upward battle to get to each checkpoint.
If you're a bit of a puss, you can give me your copy of HL2. You're gonna wet your pants x10, almost literally.
h00dlum
19-07-2004, 05:58 AM
i think it had a weak storyline, and i only really enjoyed it the first 5 missions..
Neo_Kuja
19-07-2004, 06:09 AM
Okay, why the hell do people hate this game ?
The story, yes, it is cheesy, but the storyline isn't the major turning point in a FPS's. RPG's, yes storyline is *VERY* important. Far Cry's story gave you a simple task (Save Val), and you had to go through the works to do it. Blow up that wall ? Fine. If they had asked you to do it repeatedly, yes, I would've found it boring. But it was like a B-Grade film's story, with all the special effects of a A-Grade film ! The enviroments were rarely annoying, and the soldiers were brilliantly done, and were very hard at times. If you hate HARD fps's, yes, you probably will dislike this, but I find that those who hate hard fps's are often n00bs at fps genre anyway.
FictiousWill
19-07-2004, 06:14 AM
I got it free with my AMD 64 CPU :P
Same here hehe. Decent game, imho. Very pretty, showd it off to the folks. Then again, I'm the kind of player who oohs and aahs at speculars and normal maps and reflections and crap.
Kohman77
19-07-2004, 06:27 AM
i only liked it for its looks and ambushing stupid soldier guys
the moment those crazy monkey things come somewhat early on in the game, it sucked lol. if it was mroe liek a war game where u just kilkl soldiers n'stuff it'd be great. no monkey, more soldiers. well i didnt play that far inj so i could be wrong, ahhhh dont flame me farcry lovers
p.s. i would say save ur money for doom3 unless ur rich :)
one of the reasons i am buying far cry is b/c the price has gone down, that's the way i buy games, wait until the price goes down, i don't have the money for doom3 anyway
Soundwave
19-07-2004, 07:00 AM
hers a little thing to rack your brains over.
if far cry had the graphics of, say- half lfie, would you like it?
i would think it is a pile of shit... because the graphics are the whole point of far cry, the rest is average.
:)
The combat would still be better than Half-Life's, so yes I would still like it.
brink's
19-07-2004, 07:02 AM
The combat would still be better than Half-Life's, so yes I would still like it.
hahahahahaha...........no
Neo_Kuja
19-07-2004, 07:05 AM
Trigen (I'm assuming you've played the second demo), become more predominant throughout the game, which adds a survival ("Damn, what just moved behind me" and "Is that a Trigen shadow, or a human one ..... oh crap, it's getting closer ...... RUN !!!!!!") trait to the game. The merceneries would become boring (IMO), because you'd just run and gun most of the time.
Kohman77, yes, the appearance of the monkey trigen are quite annoying, but keep playing the Treehouse level (I'm assuming you're up to there), and go through the treehouse facility (Also infested with Trigen), and by then you'll have a pretty good idea of how to beat Trigen quickly. A few tips if you want them though :
!) NEVER, I repeat, NEVER reload when facing Trigen ! The few seconds that it takes for Jack to change the clip will be the death of you. Switch to another weapon, and use sprays of ammo in the general direction of them. The only time you should reload is when you've only got a long range weapon (Rocket Launcher, Sniper Rifle ... etc) in the remaining slot, and even then, you should try and get a long distance between you and the Trigen before you start.
2) Trigen-Killers. If you can, try and lure Trigen into merceneries, and they'll start fighting ! This is a good chance to reload, or run, and even if the Trigen kills the mercenery (VERY likely) it'll be a bit weaker, and take fewer shots to kill. Trigen CAN'T SWIM !! Try luring them into deep water, and they'll drown very quickly, saving you ammo and hassle !
3) Weapons. I always keep the P90 handy throughout the game, as it shoots fast, kills quickly, and reloads quickly. This is the ideal Monkey Trigen killer !! Later on, you'll stumble across a Jackhammer Shotgun. Save this for close-quarters combat with Trigen, but be aware it pauses for half a second between shots, so be on the move !
4) MOVE ! The most important thing is to move against Trigen, so continually backpedal away from them. Watching n00bs play the Treetops level, they just stand there until the Trigen is in striking range !!! Use the sprint key to quickly spring out of a Trigan's leaping range, and then fill them with lead. Don't get backed into a corner though ......
5) Treetops is quite a hard level to know when to move to the abandoned lab, so a general rule is to wait until the firing stops, and then cautiously move towards the fallen walkway leading to it. If anything growls, be very careful !. As soon as you reach the caged area in the lab, you're pretty much safe, so relax.
Hope those tips help ! :)
Soundwave
19-07-2004, 07:07 AM
hahahahahaha...........no
No for you perhaps. But I found Half-Life's actual combat to be pretty mediocre.
brink's
19-07-2004, 07:31 AM
No for you perhaps. But I found Half-Life's actual combat to be pretty mediocre.
Thats ok, we all have our opinions. :D
if you like fps's in general, this is a must have.
I grew up with doom, so anything thats better than run and shoot satisfies me, and boy was FarCry alot more than that, so i was very pleased.
I think alot of people's opinions about games really just stems from how they set their standards. For instance some people are turned off unless the game is oustanding in every aspect (story etc, dialogue.)
But I dont blame them, games these days are becoming very advanced and we should probably higher our standards a bit. But I can't help but feel that some people set them wayy too high and in the end are just setting themselves up to be disappointed. to each his own I guess.
Shuzer
19-07-2004, 07:55 AM
Okay, why the hell do people hate this game ?
There are alot of people who see FC as a threat to both HL2 and D3, I think. I'm not sure what type of threat could be involved here, but you know, it's there, in their minds ;)
plus, alot of people are devout fans to VALVe, and, if they play another game and enjoy it.. bad things could happen! :x
Roland Deschain
19-07-2004, 08:00 AM
Imagine these guys running through a hallway at you, a hallway that shimmers from the gas that's escaping. Also imagine the shadows playing across their skin and they jump. Imagine me puming my shotgun. Also notice the lever in the left hand corner. I'm about to pull it and those cases, well, use your imagination.
Neo_Kuja
19-07-2004, 08:04 AM
Is that in The Bunker ?
Roland Deschain
19-07-2004, 08:05 AM
Yeah, just when you start seeing them. By the way, the get bigger and learn how to use guns :).
Neo_Kuja
19-07-2004, 08:29 AM
Yeah, I've had the displeasure to meet all the types in the volcano crater, used the SAW most of all, I dunno why .....
I hate the way the human ones look though, with the gun and slap, they're a right bugger to beat. Don't even get me started on the rocket ones ........
Dr. Freeman
19-07-2004, 08:58 AM
should u buy it?
depends.. how is ur cash situation?
because if its limited.. than i'd say.. u have waited this long.. so u might as well stick it out and wait for Doom3/HL2/Bloodlines and choose from one of those titles.
if ur cash situation is nothing to worry about.. go ahead.. knock urself out..
yea, what the hell, i'll try going to some place today and buy it, i've heard both sides of the story, and what surprises me most is that people who dislike it complain about its difficulty, which is just not a very big issue for me. and some people who reccomend it say that if you have the computer to run it it'll be worth while, but i just don't at all find that true; you see i played the game at 600x480 with everything on medium except water and lighting which i put on low, i played the game with a 5200 and i still had an absolutely awsome time beating the demos, people keep stating and stating that the graphics are the only good thing about the game, take it from me; a guy with an outdated graphics card; graphics are not at all the reason why i am allured to the game.
ACLeroK212
19-07-2004, 06:48 PM
I bought the game and really enjoyed it, although it did trip up and became kind of a burden towards the last levels. The ending however was one of the more satisfying and challenging levels I've played in awhile.
If your skeptical I'd wait though for two reasons.
1) See if any good mods come out once they release the SDK. If so it will be worth your money.
2) If you wait and no good mods come out it will still be worth the wait as the game should be cheaper then. Especially once games like Doom3 and HL2 start coming out.
Personally though, I have no regrets buying it when I did. Yes the story is weak, but it was still worth playing through as there were some very enjoyable experiences and some very fun levels to play through.
edit:
yea, what the hell, i'll try going to some place today and buy it, i've heard both sides of the story, and what surprises me most is that people who dislike it complain about its difficulty, which is just not a very big issue for me. and some people who reccomend it say that if you have the computer to run it it'll be worth while, but i just don't at all find that true; you see i played the game at 600x480 with everything on medium except water and lighting which i put on low, i played the game with a 5200 and i still had an absolutely awsome time beating the demos, people keep stating and stating that the graphics are the only good thing about the game, take it from me; a guy with an outdated graphics card; graphics are not at all the reason why i am allured to the game.
Yes it is indeed playable on low settings and you'll still have fun, however, once you experience the game on a higher end rig and realize how beautiful the scenery and effects are you'll never want to go back.
Xenome
19-07-2004, 09:09 PM
A game with bad multiplayer is a non-buy for me... except if the singleplayer is VERY good..but far cry lacks enduring gameplay..
SubKamran
19-07-2004, 09:35 PM
If you don't like the demo, don't bother. My friend liked it, but his comp can't run it (he played it here).
Kazuki_Fuse
20-07-2004, 07:09 AM
I didn't like the game much. Ive voiced that a few times, but one of the reason's is because of the bloody crap mutants, man they suck big time. Especially those monkeys that kill you in two hits. I also loathe the general design of the game. I mean you canput as many specular highlights on a character, but that ain't gonna stop it from looking crap if the design is crap imo.
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