How to speed that torrent up!

[hool10]

I noticed that we are all at 36% with 2 kb or 7kb for speed. This is because no one is seeding. To seed all you have to do is keep the torrent window up. You will act like a content server and people will eat up your bandwith. This will speed things up immensly. So do the hl2 community a favor and keep that torrnt up after downloading! :D

[Reaperman]

what, praytell are you torrenting?

[Sai]

what, praytell are you torrenting?

the "new and improved" e3 2004 vid

[Bicka]

Nobodies gotten the f'ing thing yet because its just one guy uploading the whole thing at 8kb. Read the f'ing thread......

*p.s sorry for rant but seriously.....

*p.p.s toned down rant a bit :P

[Intamin]

I think it's cool how were all in on a "communistic" download. No one shall get it before anyone! Hail HL2!

[brink's]

I wants it but I'm not at my comp. :frown: :D

[ShadowFox]

What should have been done is the guy should have given the torrent to one person with a high upload speed and then when he was done downloading it distribute it to everybody else.

[Liam]

I noticed that we are all at 36% with 2 kb or 7kb for speed. This is because no one is seeding.

Wrong. There is one person seeding (superseeding), the person that has the file.

No-one else has the complete file yet, so no-one can seed.

Keep you file seeding after completion is the the number one rule of bit torrent anyway.

[Sai]

I think it's cool how were all in on a "communistic" download. No one shall get it before anyone! Hail HL2!

hahahahahhahahaha

OH GOD ALL HL2 FANS HAVE BECOME MARXISTS!!! :eek:

[hool10]

This torrent stuff works by the person with the highest % done stops with the downloading right? Then other people speed up, this is because their feeding off his bandwith. Thus P2P networking. Brian Cohen invented this software and is helping, as you know already, Steam. The reason why you go fast on Steam is because Steam has lots of seeds so you go fast. It also helps when 30+ people are downloading the same file. So whoever gets the full file KEEP THE TORRENT OPEN AFTERWARDS! And other people should do it too. Now I will go back twiddling my thumbs. :dozey:

[Sai]

that's kind of a "no duh" statement for the fact is that no one has the file done so we really can't "keep the torrent open after downloading is done" simply b/c no one has it finished, kind of pointless advice at this point if you ask me

[hool10]

No im just saying if anyone sees this message while waiting for the file keep it open after downloading. Keep ur comp running overnight (it will keep on downloading and seed once its done while ur sleeping :naughty: ) So when you wake up tommorrow you can watch the new video!

[deathryuu]

this may help some ppl understand how BT seeds work..

http://homepages.nildram.co.uk/~acidburn/ninemil/bittorrent.jpg

[hool10]

perfect example thankx!

[FictiousWill]

That wacky intarnet.

[Lep]

The trick is to not have your upload so high that it cripples your download.

[B_MAN]

use bit tornado
great BT program
anyways im uploading to 6 people at 40k/s
downloading at 40

[Impulse147]

never understood BT, why would i wanna take 17 hours to dl a 500 mb file when i can do it in 2 hours with http.

[Foxtrot]

never understood BT, why would i wanna take 17 hours to dl a 500 mb file when i can do it in 2 hours with http.
Because a lot of the time it will only take about 10 minutes to download it and you don't have to wait in line.

[Impulse147]

i used to use BT quite a bit but i found overtime that ppl stopped seeding, so instead of 600-1000 ppl seeding there would be like 40, so it just wasn't worth the wait, anything i've tryed to dl with BT never gets past 20kb per sec. it just seemed awhile ago it used to reach 300-400 kb per sec.

[adulus]

I only recently heard of BT, and anything i try to DL with it starts out at 20 kb/s, then goes down to <1 kb/s.

[iamaelephant]

Torrents were good at first, but, just as with Kazaa, people just dont upload anymore.

I have never and will never upload after I have finished downloading. I'll be damned if I'm going to pay for someone else to download the damn file.

[SMT]

The trick is to not have your upload so high that it cripples your download.

No, the trick is to understand how BitTorrent works, unlike some people. Whoops, that's you!

Right now there's only .487 distributed copies on the torrent, with 0 seeds. That means the most anyone currently on the torrent has downloaded is 48.7 percent. That means it's effectively dead in the water unless someone with a completed download leaves it going overnight.

Iamaelephant, I couldn't care less if your country has ancient, non-flatrate broadband billing. People like you who throttle upload bandwidth and don't seed for others are the reason BitTorrents suffer premature death. Congratulations, jerk.

[Sedako]

Actually, one peer is at 48.8% :sniper:

Edit: ok, now there are 5 or six

[adulus]

This is seriously making my head hurt. Why cant we stick to what works...
If it ain't broke, you're not trying.

[ShadowFox]

i used to use BT quite a bit but i found overtime that ppl stopped seeding, so instead of 600-1000 ppl seeding there would be like 40, so it just wasn't worth the wait, anything i've tryed to dl with BT never gets past 20kb per sec. it just seemed awhile ago it used to reach 300-400 kb per sec.
Thats because all the leechers started using it.

[antimatter]

i used to use BT quite a bit but i found overtime that ppl stopped seeding, so instead of 600-1000 ppl seeding there would be like 40, so it just wasn't worth the wait, anything i've tryed to dl with BT never gets past 20kb per sec. it just seemed awhile ago it used to reach 300-400 kb per sec.

Are you behind a firewall?

[iamaelephant]

Iamaelephant, I couldn't care less if your country has ancient, non-flatrate broadband billing. People like you who throttle upload bandwidth and don't seed for others are the reason BitTorrents suffer premature death. Congratulations, jerk.

Okay, how about this - you send me a check for $50, and I'll seed whatever I download for the next 2 or 3 months.

Sound fair?

And yes, my country does have "ancient, non-flatrate boradband billing," and there isnt a whole lot I can do about it.

Jerk.

[Estevan]

can someone post a link to the torrent? i really dont want to search through 39 pages

[RogueShadow]

never understood BT, why would i wanna take 17 hours to dl a 500 mb file when i can do it in 2 hours with http.

becouse you don't understand networking or bandwidth.

It's so people like iamaelephant can upload something really huge and let a thousand people download it without costing him ten thousand dollars.

Works for small companies too, and big one's. everybody needs to save. And those of us with flat fee broadband can afford to use our sparsly used upload streams once in a while.

[Hoppe]

Here you go:

http://bickabic.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/files/hl2e32004.zip

[antimatter]

Torrents were good at first, but, just as with Kazaa, people just dont upload anymore.

I have never and will never upload after I have finished downloading. I'll be damned if I'm going to pay for someone else to download the damn file.

You keep doing that and trackers will start banning you. Many trackers nowadays are starting to ban people with a share ratio lower then 1.0.

[iamaelephant]

antimatter - I upload just as much (actually usually more) than I download, but I dont leave the torrent open after I finish the download.

[Estevan]

is your avatar an eraser?

[ScopeD]

Some advice:

- Don't use any fancy torrent programs, the standard one is faster in most cases!!
- Don't use bandwith limiters, they eat up others downloads!
- While downloading, go out and breath fresh air :)

[BBMcGinty]

I have never come accross two topics on a forum that have done my head in as much as these two! Arrgh :D

So I'll recap for those sat in the back...

1) We only have one seeder so far (the guy who was kind enough to rip and distribute the file), but we don't see him 'cause he's superseeding (do a search, it's been explained about 40 times already).

2) You will get good speeds up 'till the point you catch up to everyone else, then you will drop to a near stand-still, it's the nature of BitTorrent. However, once the seeder has seeded the file 100%, everyone DLing right now will quickly become seeders themselves (if they keep their BitTorrent client open after reaching 100%). Once everyone who is leaching right now become seeders, watch the DL speed of people just starting to leach, their connection will max out for the entire download!

3) We will actually get the file quicker this way! We would not get the file any faster if he uploaded to a server first. Think about it, he has a total upload bandwidth of 8k/sec. Even if he uploaded to a server that sits on the fastest OC pipe, he couldn't upload that file any faster than 8k/sec. As a result, he spends hours and hours uploading the file to the server, but in the meantime everyone here slowly develops yet another reason to go crazy with "delay fever".
At least with the BitTorrent method, we are actually grabbing the file as he's uploading!
In fact, just think of it as your fastest download ever: *Theoretically* he finally finishes the upload to that ficticious server on the OC pipe (it took 9 hours say), posts the link to that server, everyone says "finally," jumps onto the server to download, and that 300meg file dowloads to everyone simultaniously in a blink of an eye - remember this is a fantasy, you don't have a download speed cap, and the OC server could send the file to everyone at 600meg/sec - Fantastic eh? The fact remains the same though, even if you had the access to that kind of DL speed on a furiously fast server, it would have sill taken *many* hours for the guy to up the original file to that server at his 8K/sec upload limit. Oh aye, and don't forget you don't have unlimited download bandwidth, so you would still be grabbing the file at the cap your ISP has imposed on you.

So to recap, guess what, you're getting the file faster now with BitTorrent than if he were to upload to a server first. Easy mate.


My first post! "woo" and "yay"!

[Estevan]

woot thanks. i have always wanted to know how it worked.

[hool10]

I noticed when your very close to the end you speed up tremendously. I've been downloading now for 15hrs lol. I have 82.6% done too. REMEMBER PEOPLE SEED IT DONT BE GREEDY! KEEP IT OPEN AFTERWARDS!!!

[RogueShadow]

Hehe, I have nothing against bandwidth limiters. It's the only way you can leave the torrent open without preventing you from using the internet for the next week until you manage to get a 1.0 or higher ratio.
Guess it depends on a few things.

[Burn]

Do we really need anouther thread on this?

[hool10]

Whoah now I'm going at 20kb and im at 84% done. Its going to be done soon!

[SubKamran]

What should have been done is the guy should have given the torrent to one person with a high upload speed and then when he was done downloading it distribute it to everybody else.

/dumbass mode

Oh, I see...so he's supposed to upload it to ME with his 8KB upload then?! w00t! SAVES A WHOLE BUNCH OF TIME, NO?!

/end

Sorry...it just...it's OK, when I first thought that the thought didn't cross my mind that his upload speed would be the same :D

[Eejit]

Someone esle did have it finished at one stage but didn't keep uploading :|
Oh well.

[SubKamran]

Some advice:

- Don't use any fancy torrent programs, the standard one is faster in most cases!!
- Don't use bandwith limiters, they eat up others downloads!
- While downloading, go out and breath fresh air :)

I didn't like the standard one...way too bare. Azureus is the best :D

[Impulse147]

Well maybe i'll start getting back into BT, but all i got is 9 gb left on my HD, next pc i buy is gonna have dual 200 gb HD's.

[SubKamran]

Well maybe i'll start getting back into BT, but all i got is 9 gb left on my HD, next pc i buy is gonna have dual 200 gb HD's.

Psssh, you should buy two WD Raptors 74GB versions...10K RPM dude :D

[Varsity]

never understood BT, why would i wanna take 17 hours to dl a 500 mb file when i can do it in 2 hours with http.
BT comes into it's own for popular files, where with ftp nobody would get the file due the complete hammering of the server. BT keeps downloads speeds stable, perhaps even faster no matter what the load - assuming they have enough seeders unlike this one.

89%

[Impulse147]

also what do all u BT users dl? all i ever find at BT file sites are warez.

[Varsity]

Then stop going to warez sites.

www.filerush.com

[Impulse147]

How many seeds does a file need tp give every1 fast dls?

[SubKamran]

Then stop going to warez sites.

www.filerush.com

Or gamershell.com or 3dgamers.com

How many seeds does a file need tp give every1 fast dls?

Usually like 5-10 gives good speeds if everyone is uploading at 15 or 10KB then everyone else can get like 30KB/sec. The more the faster. If 300 people keep it open, that's 300 seeds, so you'll be downloading at a nice 100KB/sec or faster :P

[Varsity]

How many seeds does a file need tp give every1 fast dls?
Depends on the number downloading and connection speeds, of course. I'm not sure of the ratio.

90%

[hool10]

Think of BT as a group effort project. Over 30 people have 90% done including me. When I'm done I'm maxing out the speeds for people with less % so hang on. **Oh yeah I have cable so you should go extra fast when I'm done!

[hool10]

More people should be coming now because I have made a link to this BT on the Steam forums!