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AudioRage
02-03-2004, 06:08 AM
STOCKHOLM (Reuters) - Video games can make children fat and, in the case of violent games popular among teenage and younger boys, aggressive and even criminal, Swedish experts said on Monday.

Continued Here (http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20040301/tc_nm/leisure_games_dc_7)


I'm so Tired of these BS studies with no proof whatsoever.

Prince of China
02-03-2004, 06:09 AM
Video Games Make Kids Fat, Violent, Swedish Experts Say
Well, you just "say" that.

Pressure
02-03-2004, 06:20 AM
As long as no one tries stop production on violent video games and/or censor them, I don't care what they say.

By stop production I mean the President or something (I remember one of the Presidental Candidates saying he would try) trying to ban them.

nw909
02-03-2004, 06:26 AM
Jesus christ, you become fat, violent, and SWEDISH!!!111

Mr. Redundant
02-03-2004, 06:28 AM
Jesus christ, you become fat, violent, and SWEDISH!!!111
ROFL
man if I werent so tired right now I woulda worked that into a Sig.

qckbeam
02-03-2004, 06:37 AM
Overeating makes kids fat. A lack of exercise keeps them that way.

Really, I play lots of games, and spend lots of time on the computer, but I manage to work out on a regular basis, and keep from stuffing my face with burger king every chance I get, so I'm in very good shape. I get so very sick of this. I'm also not violent at all in real life. In a virtual world, of course, I'm a freaking sadist. But I wouldn't ever even think of harming someone in real life.

6Three
02-03-2004, 06:41 AM
Whadd'ya mean games make you violent? *kills cat and drinks half-digested stomach fluids*

Lucifer Crass
02-03-2004, 06:46 AM
Who is bad mouthing fat violent kids! I WILL KILL THEM!! AND FRY THERE BONES AND EAT THEM!!!

Prince of China
02-03-2004, 06:46 AM
Who is bad mouthing fat violent kids! I WILL KILL THEM!! AND FRY THERE BONES AND EAT THEM!!!
lol!......

6Three
02-03-2004, 06:48 AM
Who is bad mouthing fat violent kids! I WILL KILL THEM!! AND FRY THERE BONES AND EAT THEM!!!

Try grilling them, frying chars the bone, but grilling gets all the marrow nice and moist...

brink's
02-03-2004, 08:05 AM
Experts say that video games make children act more violent. WELL NO $HIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Almost every kid plays video games, so ya some of them are going to act violent. Thats common sense, put a bunch of monkeys in a room together and eventually they will figure that out. I'm pretty sure that children acted violent before pong came out.

OCybrManO
02-03-2004, 08:27 AM
... maybe human society is getting more violent and the games are just trying to keep up?

Shippi
02-03-2004, 08:33 AM
I've been playing games since I was about 7... I think the first game I ever played was Doom, but I played a lot of X-Wing and Dark Forces, and it didn't turn me violent, or fat! I'm not in the best of shape, but I think living above an offlicence for the first 9 years of my life had something to do with that though! Mm... free chocolate...

Anyway, if a kid's gonna turn violent I think they will anyway, regardless of whether they play violent games or not. I've been playing then for years and I wouldn't harm a fly (I really wouldn't!), never mind go on a killing spree..

Pressure
02-03-2004, 08:36 AM
REAL psychological studies show kid who play violent video games are LESS likely to be violent in real life.

AudioRage
02-03-2004, 08:55 AM
Yeah, Video Games are an outlet for my anger.

Now Forcing me to watch American/Pop Idol, That makes me want to kill people.

Korgoth
02-03-2004, 09:10 AM
LMAO did these geniuses just now come to this conclusion?

Scientist 1 "Since the release of pac man we have been montoring little jimmy's weight"
Scientist 2 "Your a moron Scientist 1, there is no hard evidence that sitting on your ass all day staring at the TV drinking sugar filled caffeinated beverages and eating bags upon bags of cheetos makes you fat! Its all theory!"
Scientist 1 "Gasp! Your right, /me kills self"
Government funder guy "retards"

Frank
02-03-2004, 09:43 AM
I hate when professors say this...
I'm like:
"WOW!!! You really studied six years of your life to tell us all what thousands of others have told us? I'm amazed! Have a cookie..."

mchammer75040
02-03-2004, 12:06 PM
... maybe human society is getting more violent and the games are just trying to keep up?
Whoa well said..
Our president constantly booms other countries, but yet video games are horrible atrocities in our society that make people violent...why hasnt anyone ever said maybe it is the president that influences children to act violent(yea I notice there is a difference just point out the hypocricy in it)? Why is killing in the military justified and encouraged, but not in the virtual world were no one gets hurt?
Sure some kids will turn violent from playing video games, not all though. Plus that has to do with bad parenting as well.
And your sending mixed messages when you have people saying video games are bad because it promotes violence, but turn the channel and you see a "join the marines" commercial saying (not literally) "hey come join us so we can send you over seas to kill people!"
:dozey:
Come on we need to stop pointing our finger at each other and just take responsiblity its our society we are the ones who make it what it is.

Direwolf
02-03-2004, 12:37 PM
See, I never believe these things. Then I go online and play CS with other people, and begin to wonder....

Farrowlesparrow
02-03-2004, 12:56 PM
Perhaps that guy who you just keep killing in CS and is really getting annoyed at you will be the one who does in fact turn violent.

jimbones
02-03-2004, 01:14 PM
WHAT?! I'd smack those swedish bastards if I wasn't so damn fat!

lePobz
02-03-2004, 01:51 PM
The majority of violent people that use computers end up dropping them out of the window within the first few weeks anyway, I dont think they are a problem.

Dedalus
02-03-2004, 02:01 PM
using MS Windows makes me violent. playing games, nah. not another scientist groan-a-thon. sitting on your arse spouting rhetoric makes you fat, so stop doing it!

if kids are getting fat from playing video games it's their own fault. go out and play some sports, take a walk every now and then, just go outside for gods sake! if people want to stay inside and make themselves fat and just play games let them. they'll end up not having girlfriends and thus will not have kids and thus will keep the world free of their polluted seed.

lePobz
02-03-2004, 02:20 PM
You guys played Postal 2 ?

I think games like this are a means of releasing stress/anger/violence etc that is already built up inside us...

Its easy to see how people can think they make kids violent though.

mchammer75040
02-03-2004, 02:26 PM
You guys played Postal 2 ?

I think games like this are a means of releasing stress/anger/violence etc that is already built up inside us...

Its easy to see how people can think they make kids violent though.

Well I do believe they can make kids violent, especially if the kid knows no better. But yea I agree, although IMO GTA is a better "stress buster" (if you wanna call it that) heheh nothing more satisfying than running people over in a ambulance and killing cops...

Maxi
02-03-2004, 02:55 PM
I first read the topic like this: Video Games Make Kids Fat, Violent Swedish Experts Say

Frank
02-03-2004, 03:37 PM
I first read the topic like this: Video Games Make Kids Fat, Violent Swedish Experts Say

It could also be:
Video Games Make Kids Fat, Violent, (and) Swedish...

nw909
02-03-2004, 03:40 PM
It could also be:
Video Games Make Kids Fat, Violent, (and) Swedish...

Thats the way I read it, except with like a movie commercial voice that gets more intense, Video Games Make Kids Fat, Violent, Swedish.

CyberSh33p
02-03-2004, 04:24 PM
odd then that I am one of the skinniest and least thuggy people in my school. and I spend probably like over 20 hours a week infront of this magic box.

'course, I do row.

I'm going to blame bad role models (*coughrapcough*) and peoples wish to avoid all movement on those charges. as for the swedish thing, that certainly is an oddity.

h00dlum
02-03-2004, 04:49 PM
lol that crappy documentary is on tommorow..gotta see it..games dont make me violent..idiots that say games do makes me violent..

marksmanHL2 :)
02-03-2004, 05:13 PM
If people actually took age rateings seriously there would be far fewer problems!


But nooooooOOOOOooooo!

They sell these things to anyone! :angry:



(I am not saying all young people who watch violent movies and play violent games will turn out dearranged, just pointing out that they are there for a reason. If someone is educated enough to know there is a violent game they really want anyway and know how to get it then I don't think its gona affect em. These people could download them illegally and in theory it would not affect the games company at all since they would not get them any other way...... Wow I went off on a tangent....)

PvtRyan
02-03-2004, 05:27 PM
Let's see:

1: The kid becomes fat? Is that the developers fault? Or the fault of the bad parents who throw their kids behind the TV or PC so they both can get to work because they need to pay of the car (you can't let the neighbors have a nicer car than you right?)
Send the kid out once in a while, gaming isn't unhealthy, TOO MUCH gaming is unhealthy, like with all things. It's again not the developers fault, but the parents' fault.

2: The kid becomes violent? Same thing as above. I can guarantee you, a kid who receives proper education about the game, can play GTA without turning into a murdering psycho. If you teach the kid what's wrong and right in the game, who the bad guys are and why they are bad guys, they can even get better understanding of what's allowed and not allowed in the world.
And besides, is it the developers fault that an 8-year kid becomes violent after playing a 16+ rated game or is it the parents' fault for even allowing him to play a 16+ game without education and support?

Goddamn so-called experts blaming the problems of society to a scapegoat like games instead of finding a solution.... makes me sick. And it's one of the few things that make me violent and not games!

Revisedsoul
02-03-2004, 06:19 PM
yes but parents are too nieve to even concider they are bad parents and either outrage at that claim or completely ignore it

Dedalus
02-03-2004, 06:25 PM
parents are the cause of all neurosis, yet they won't admit it. they'll blame it on tv/games/music/books (well they used to blame it on books back when reading was popular..).

the real problem we're looking at here: dipshit parents raising dipshit kids who in turn flood the world with more dipshits.

ComradeBadger
02-03-2004, 06:26 PM
Thats odd, I'm not Fat Violent OR Swedish. (thats how I read the topic, thinking: "Silly experts! How can playing games make you swedish?" :E )

mrchimp
02-03-2004, 06:46 PM
Generally the most violent people I have come across were violent before they ever played a violent game.

At the end of the day, nobody here has to worry about computer games suffering from this because they won't do jack shit about it. There will be another Postal type game and it proberly won't be banned ect...

CrazyHarij
02-03-2004, 06:47 PM
Lol, tomorrow there'll be a documentary here in sweden about violent games. Nice! Not much comedy shows nowadays on TV, it'll be fun to have a few laughs.

Foxtrot
02-03-2004, 07:27 PM
You want to know what really makes people violant? Gangs...and drugs.

Lordblackadder
02-03-2004, 07:54 PM
This is all such BS, I'm not fat. I wouldn't mind being Swedish. My parents turned me into an impulsive, homocidal sociopath. :frown:

At least I can enjoy some violent games, rather than having to torture kittens ALL the time. :eek:

The above is obviously a joke, don't bother forwarding this to PETA. :cheers:

Majestic XII
02-03-2004, 08:44 PM
Im fat, im violent AND im Swedish!

(no im not fat, not violent but im pretty sure att jag är svensk)

Frank
02-03-2004, 09:12 PM
Im fat, im violent AND im Swedish!

(no im not fat, not violent but im pretty sure att jag är svensk)

He's a monster! GET HIM!

marksmanHL2 :)
02-03-2004, 09:14 PM
Heheh, I aint fat, I am fairly violent if you get me started but controlled if no one really pisses me off and I don't think i'm swedish.....



But games didn't make me violent lol. Being attacked by little annoying bastards who think they are badass makes me mad.
Especially when they attack my friends..... but I won't talk about that. Makes me wana hit the wall and the last time I did that I broke a knuckle.. :(

Mr. Redundant
02-03-2004, 09:27 PM
funny thing is, Fat swedish kids are usually too lazy to be violent.
*shrugs*

Dulrough
03-03-2004, 03:13 AM
Out of shape out of mind...

This is a total load of bull. However I can see where they are coming from with games like GTA or Postal. Imagine whatching bugs bunny all your life than seeing some horror movie, you would think the same about TV. Still what do you emmulate more as a kid, movies or video games? I havent seen any fat little kids running around saying "I AM GORDON DIE HEADCRAB!!!" and hiting their brother with a crowbar.

Mr. Redundant
03-03-2004, 04:16 AM
I havent seen any fat little kids running around saying "I AM GORDON DIE HEADCRAB!!!" and hiting their brother with a crowbar.

No of course you didnt, nothing to see here folks... move along...

whenever Im in a car I get urges to hit pedestrians walking across the street.... I think ooh 10 points 10 points....
however that doesnt stem from video games, more of what my father taught me.....
oooh 15 (+5 because he is in a wheelchair, extra metal extra score!)

EC
03-03-2004, 04:49 AM
Does this give me permission to sue McDonalds for making me fat too?

Actually, I'm very very skinny. 5'9 128lb :bounce:

Korgoth
03-03-2004, 04:58 AM
my gosh 128? Almost 6 foot? dude you should watch out if the wind ever picks up

OCybrManO
03-03-2004, 05:11 AM
I'm only 4" taller and yet I have 50% more mass. :E

... and, no, it's not fat. :flame:

CyberSh33p
03-03-2004, 05:34 AM
heh, I'm 6'2 or 6'3" and 155. I've lost weight since teh fall =|

Moto-x_Pat
03-03-2004, 05:44 AM
Jesus christ, you become fat, violent, and SWEDISH!!!111

You don't mind if I put that in my sig do you?
Lol that's too funny.

Bad^Hat
03-03-2004, 05:54 AM
Being attacked by little annoying bastards who think they are badass makes me mad.
Especially when they attack my friends..... but I won't talk about that. Makes me wana hit the wall and the last time I did that I broke a knuckle.. :(

Haha, I remember trying to stick up for a mate by being violent one time. I was really angry but I ended up unintentionally bitch slapping the guy :o Luckily no one was watching, then he slapped back when everyone was, so I just looked at him and laughed, then everyone else laughed with me :D

/me crawls into a hole somewhere in the forum 'corner'.

Korgoth
03-03-2004, 08:03 AM
Bad ^hat I have to ask while I'm thinking about this, is your avatar the crazy horse from family guy? That was freaking hilarious... Anyway, if video games make you viloent and fat, isn't that a contradiction?.. To be fat, you have to be lazy, to be violent you have to be aggressive, to be lazy and aggressive really don't work :)

jimbones
03-03-2004, 10:58 AM
Soo in conclusion: NEWSFLASH: Study shows swedish experts jump to conclusions from studying fattening, violent, video games' effect on kids!

Bad^Hat
03-03-2004, 11:06 AM
Bad ^hat I have to ask while I'm thinking about this, is your avatar the crazy horse from family guy? That was freaking hilarious... Anyway, if video games make you viloent and fat, isn't that a contradiction?.. To be fat, you have to be lazy, to be violent you have to be aggressive, to be lazy and aggressive really don't work :)

Yeah that's the horse, it was freakin hilarious indeed, had me and a few mates in stiches and rewinding for the best part of half an hour :D

And I know plenty of violent fat people, they were born fat and became violent, not the other way around :P

Coincidentally they're all gamers...

Sorze
09-03-2004, 09:29 PM
Am I the only one that absolutely freaking hate Postal 2?!? What a piece of shit excuse for a game! Seriously.............................. :hmph:

Fine, I don't mind violent games, but atleast the GTA series is something else besides violent, they're actually quite good games as well...



I watched the documentary, and it was so-so.. They only showed people that blame games for everything bad, and almost no pro-gaming people. :(

Whatever! As long as they can't do anything but bitch about it, it's fine with me! :P

ComradeBadger
09-03-2004, 09:35 PM
I hate Postal 2 too mate. Gives games a bad name :hmph:

SubKamran
09-03-2004, 09:47 PM
STOCKHOLM (Reuters) - Video games can make children fat and, in the case of violent games popular among teenage and younger boys, aggressive and even criminal, Swedish experts said on Monday.

Continued Here (http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20040301/tc_nm/leisure_games_dc_7)


I'm so Tired of these BS studies with no proof whatsoever.

Argh, it's so GHEY. GHEY GHEY GHEY.

"Hmmm, little Johnny was in jail for 2 years because he killed someone. We've found evidence that he played "Mario Kart: Double Dash!!" before he was sentenced. This game is known to teach kids violent acts of "racing" and throwing dangerous items at each other that sometimes result in crashes that danger the other player."

I could just imagine. And that fat retard Lieberman. EERRGGHH.

Baal
09-03-2004, 10:03 PM
Video games definetly don't make you violent. If they did, I would of killed someone by now. Instead, I am the total oppisote, I'm not violent at all. I've never hit anyone, or got in a fight.

As for the fat thing....if they went by that logic then TV would also make you fat.

ComradeBadger
09-03-2004, 10:05 PM
Moved to General Gaming :E

Maxi
09-03-2004, 10:13 PM
Mmmm general violent swedish computer games....

Baal
09-03-2004, 10:21 PM
my gosh 128? Almost 6 foot? dude you should watch out if the wind ever picks up

5' 9" is four inches short of 6 feet. 6 Feet begins at 5' 12", not 5' 10".

But yea, he still should watch out if the wind picks up haha.

ailevation
10-03-2004, 08:32 AM
:farmer: I'm Fat, lazy, angry. But hell i'm sure GOOD AT First Person Shooters!!! Eat THAT YOU SWEDEN COMPLAINERS! I'll Pwn YOUR ASSES IN ANY FPS!!! That's why you're MAD!!

OCybrManO
10-03-2004, 08:45 AM
5' 9" is four inches short of 6 feet. 6 Feet begins at 5' 12", not 5' 10".
... and 5'9" plus 4" is 6'1" (or 5'13")... not 6'0" (or 5'12"). :E

Sorze
10-03-2004, 11:51 AM
... and 5'9" plus 4" is 6'1" (or 5'13")... not 6'0" (or 5'12"). :E

Crazy "inch"system... :rolleyes:
Move with the times, people! :P


"We're moving towards the metric system, inch by inch!"

Jedi1641
10-03-2004, 09:49 PM
I'm a 15 year old freshman from Florida, 5' 6", 130lbs. I go to the gym (can bench press 170), wakeboard, play soccer, play the piano, play basketball, play golf, hang with friends, am on the school math team, academic team, key club, and I have a 4.0 GPA. I take out the stress from all that in video games. These Swedish scientists have their heads so far up their asses they're not seeing straight. VIVA LA Warcraft III, Half Life, Deus Ex, UT 2004 (If you haven't played the demo get it now!!!), Jedi Knight III, Starcraft, and Call of Duty!!! I'm not violent except in video games. I think I'm pretty well-rounded.


P.S. My first game ever was Dark Forces too :)

P.P.S. My parents only let me play an hour of computer a day :(

P.P.P.S I'm German all the way...I just found out today my other German friend's great grandfather was in the war, had an iron cross, and a signed copy of Mein Kompf (I'm not neo nazi or anything...just sayin' I find it kinda interesting).

chu
11-03-2004, 06:41 AM
Well I do agree(to some extent) with making kids fat, but once agian a thing that can be controlled by PARENTS!!!!

As far as making kids criminals....no that's society's fault.