View Full Version : you like VALVe better when they are
in what state do you prefer VALVe
damnit poll says lie and I cant edit... or at least I dont know how to edit polls :smoking:
Feath
22-12-2003, 05:01 AM
Could there be a middle option? I don't want everything and I don't want nothing.
spookymooky
22-12-2003, 05:14 AM
yeah, i'd like the release date, but no new videos, storyline, or whatever
synth
22-12-2003, 05:34 AM
new poll option added.
I like it more when they tell us a lot, because it gives us things to look forward to. But I realize that the more time they spend with the community, the less time they have to make the game. A balance of both would be best.
OCybrManO
22-12-2003, 05:48 AM
I'd rather they just left us with a cryptic message like a single clip of the GMan saying "We've been rather busy in your absence Mr. Freeman." for a few months, then when the game goes gold... flood the community with videos and screenshots.
The best ad they ever ran was the crowbar on a blank, white page. It was mysterious.
i liked the way they did it, all except the missing of the release date.
new poll option added.
I like it more when they tell us a lot, because it gives us things to look forward to. But I realize that the more time they spend with the community, the less time they have to make the game. A balance of both would be best.
thx, and I certainly agree
chewysplace
22-12-2003, 10:50 AM
where was the option for "when they stfu"? go ahead, flame the messanger. but everytime they open their big mouths something goes wrong and WE end up suffering. but hey not like you care :D
Varg|Hund
22-12-2003, 11:12 AM
where was the option for "when they stfu"? go ahead, flame the messanger. but everytime they open their big mouths something goes wrong and WE end up suffering. but hey not like you care :D
So, you don't think Valve are suffering to? You think that we are the only ones that suffer from these constant delays and thefts?
but hey not like you care :D
So, why wouldn't we care?
EDIT: Could be good to shorten your signature before the mods come over to your house and start jumping on all your teacups. 4 line limit, y'know. :)
chewysplace
22-12-2003, 11:17 AM
FuSeD']So, you don't think Valve are suffering to? You think that we are the only ones that suffer from these constant delays and thefts?
So, why wouldn't we care?
EDIT: Could be good to shorten your signature before the mods come over to your house and start jumping on all your teacups. 4 line limit, y'know. :)
no they are not suffering. yes you are the only ones suffering. and why wouldnt you care? do i care if you care? nope, yeah thats it nope.
Varg|Hund
22-12-2003, 11:20 AM
no they are not suffering. yes you are the only ones suffering.
So mate, you're saying that valve is not at all suffering from all the negative publicity the delays have given them, and that they don't at all mind that some hacker came along and stole the source code that they had been working on for 5 years? Mkay...
chewysplace
22-12-2003, 11:22 AM
yes they are not suffering. why? cause band-wagon jumpers like you will still buy it.
hence they will still make money. and you will still have a corinary cause of all they hype.
Varg|Hund
22-12-2003, 11:36 AM
yes they are not suffering. why? cause band-wagon jumpers like you will still buy it.
hence they will still make money. and you will still have a corinary cause of all they hype.
*CoHnFuSeD gets run over by a bandwagon*
Yeah, I will probarly still buy it. And so will most other people.
But even if Valve has lost only one prospective buyer, is it not a loss?
And negative publicity is not good for any company, yet alone a company that makes games.
chewysplace
22-12-2003, 11:38 AM
Not realy. cause it is you the wagon jumper who will incourage your friends to buy it. your friends the prospective buyer. you in the gamestore talking about it to someone who had doubts. so its not a loss. they just dont make money as quick in the start.
negative publicity is for stockholders. no publicity is realy bad cause your name gets out.
Varg|Hund
22-12-2003, 11:42 AM
Not realy. cause it is you the wagon jumper who will incourage your friends to buy it. your friends the prospective buyer. you in the gamestore talking about it to someone who had doubts. so its not a loss. they just dont make money as quick in the start.
Yes, but what about the people that haven't got the honour of my friendship? Whom shall save them? :P
And I've heard several people on these forums say that they've lost all respect for valve, and that they are going to download the game rather than play it. And even though I doubt that most of them will go through with it, some of them will.
And POFF , there goes some of valves profits.
chewysplace
22-12-2003, 11:44 AM
no big loss, they'll eventualy hear about it somewhere. you wana go childish in this conversation, i'll just end it.
Varg|Hund
22-12-2003, 11:45 AM
you wana go childish in this conversation, i'll just end it.
What? What did I do? *confused yet again*
chewysplace
22-12-2003, 11:47 AM
FuSeD']Yes, but what about the people that haven't got the honour of my friendship? Whom shall save them? :P
how is that not childish. i hope you have the ability to reason and know there are other people in teh world who have them as friends.
Varg|Hund
22-12-2003, 11:53 AM
how is that not childish. i hope you have the ability to reason and know there are other people in teh world who have them as friends.
I was joking... :dozey:
You know, as in not being serious?
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=joking
chewysplace
22-12-2003, 11:55 AM
ah, but i am serious.
You know, not joking?
Varg|Hund
22-12-2003, 11:56 AM
ah, but i am serious.
You know, not joking?
Yes...I kinda understood that..
So, you find me childish because I made a joke?
chewysplace
22-12-2003, 11:58 AM
i'm trying ot have an intelligent conversation about a subject that seems to get everyones panties in a bind in this forum and your crackin jokes.
el Chi
22-12-2003, 12:06 PM
yes they are not suffering. why? cause band-wagon jumpers like you will still buy it.
hence they will still make money. and you will still have a corinary cause of all they hype.
What are you on about? How is buying the game jumping on the band-wagon? Surely we'd want to buy it because, hopefully, it will turn out to be a very good game. Buying something because of its quality is in no way jumping on any kind of band-wagon. And as for these ridiculous ideas of not buying the game out of protest? What a stupid idea. Of course Valve are suffering because people like yourself (Ooh get you jumping on the negative band-wagon) keep directing all this hate at them for reasons I can't even begin to understand. They screwed up - they're only human and besides it wasn't entirely their fault. Are you trying to say you've never screwed up? You've never been late? You've never disappointed anyone? So get off your high-horse as you have no right to be so self-righteous. really can't understand where you're coming from... Would you care to explain to me what your reasoning is? I mean that sincerely, by the way.
chewysplace
22-12-2003, 12:07 PM
how about reading all the posts then posting a reply.
Varg|Hund
22-12-2003, 12:10 PM
i'm trying ot have an intelligent conversation about a subject that seems to get everyones panties in a bind in this forum and your crackin jokes.
I like jokes! What's life without a little laugh now and then, eh?
And I agree with pretty much everything el Chi said, and can't wait to whop his ass in HL2 MP when it's released ;) :) Or the other way round :P
chewysplace
22-12-2003, 12:13 PM
i didnt get passed much of what he said. sounded like he didnt read the posts so i ignored it.
el Chi
22-12-2003, 12:16 PM
I did read your posts. Seeing as it had degenerated into a petty squabble (no offense intended, but it did) many of them had no relevance. I think you're avoiding my questions, because you can't defend your views properly. How about you distill your argument into one post?
Pauly
22-12-2003, 09:44 PM
i like valve when they release games.... that has to be an option.....
what is up with CZERO and TF2 .....czero has been done for 2 months and still is delayed.....is that even possible????!??
chewysplace
22-12-2003, 09:53 PM
I did read your posts. Seeing as it had degenerated into a petty squabble (no offense intended, but it did) many of them had no relevance. I think you're avoiding my questions, because you can't defend your views properly. How about you distill your argument into one post?
dont even start with me. you did nothing to defend your views well.
Chris_D
22-12-2003, 10:04 PM
chewy, you overreact quite a bit.
No one here is really childish. Cohnfused made a small little joke and then proceeded with the rest of the sensible argument. It was just his sense of humour.
el Chi's post made sense to me. Want me try to reiterate it to you?
Personally i would not even bother to argue with a person like chewysplace, you're just wasting your time. Chewy, if you don't like the game or what the company has done simply don't buy it. Who cares if you're not buying it, i know i don't. If you hate HL2 so much what are you doing in a fansite dedicated ot the very same game, isn't it a bit stupid?
As far as i can see you're the only one being childish here.
chewysplace
22-12-2003, 10:10 PM
Rico: your arguing with me right now.
take your own advice for once.
and if you dont want to be in the conversation the dont reply.
Back on topic:
I really wouldn't mind not having any more info for HL2 until after it goes gold. I probably won't be one of those people who get the game as soon as it comes out, most likely i will get it a few weeks later.
Gorgon
22-12-2003, 10:24 PM
Well I just want the Game, Noting else. I have voted for the last option.
Why Should I like a company which made me buy a PC worth £1800 a three months ago and now its only £1600? No Way I am going to trust valve, I am only waiting for their product and thats it.
I voted for the first option. Really beacause I think that Valve overplayed their hand badly with their publicity offensive of this summer. To say nothing of the missed september the 30th date. Right now, I want them to work away at the game and do nothing else.
Chris_D
22-12-2003, 10:33 PM
Personally i would not even bother to argue with a person like chewysplace, you're just wasting your time. Chewy, if you don't like the game or what the company has done simply don't buy it. Who cares if you're not buying it, i know i don't. If you hate HL2 so much what are you doing in a fansite dedicated ot the very same game, isn't it a bit stupid?
As far as i can see you're the only one being childish here.
Rico: your arguing with me right now.
take your own advice for once.
and if you dont want to be in the conversation the dont reply.
Both of you have a point to be honest.
Rico, while some of chewy's posts are a bit harsh against the person he's discussing/debating with, some of them are just a simple debate. If I remember correctly, everyone's entitled to their own views, within reason, and chewy mildly not liking Valve or the game is certainly within reason in my book.
chewy, some of the things you have said are out of order and unecessary. This IS a Half-Life(2) fan forum where people come to discuss the games. Unfortunately because of that posting things like:
Half Life2 is the stolen code of Halo 2. HL2 is too hyped up and will now suck much ass. They got pwnz by uber hackers while eating their ding dongs and twinkies. they got uber fuxord cause they were dumb. and thank god. maybe they'll be outa the gene pool son enough
...isn't exactly going to end in a decent conversation or debate on anyone's part.
I hope you see my point.
chewysplace
22-12-2003, 10:47 PM
that i do. only because you were specific enough unlike most posters.
however the argument you dont know about also affects why you dont understand my post.
but one of the moderators does know about it. and if he feels like telling then so be it.
Gabe you still owe me.
Someone
22-12-2003, 10:59 PM
As for the topic ...
I have to say I liked the way Valve began the HL2 surge. To come out of no where to announce a game (if not the most anticipated game ever, certainly in the top 2-3) which is almost done and only a couple months off was the best way to do it. Release date in hand, movies, screenies, interviews all about...it was great.
As for how things have gone down hill. Well, I can't really fault Valve for not wanting to say anything. Everything they say is jumped on and not really trusted at this point so why say anything?
Although I think an update now and then would be nice. A comment every week or 2 about how things stand, or how the case against the thieves is going, or even a single screen shot now and then...etc.
But, as I said....can't blame them at all for their silence.
Chris_D
22-12-2003, 11:01 PM
Well, as I said in my PM, mrBadger was clearly warning you about that particular post in the Halo 2 vs HL2 thread as you acknowledged that in response to him telling you to stop trolling which was near the exact same acknowledgement you gave as you quoted him and told him "well done" for warning you six hours late.
This needs to get back on topic now...
chewysplace
22-12-2003, 11:13 PM
Chris: from teh PM he gave me there was no clear reason why. he may have showed you but he shurely didnt show me.
and again you said trolling. thats has a very broad meaning.
if you wish to still discus this just PM me instead of posting it here.
ComradeBadger
22-12-2003, 11:30 PM
I'm sorry, I should have mentioned the post. End of matter.
chewysplace
22-12-2003, 11:34 PM
thank you.
Ro@cH
23-12-2003, 12:58 AM
All nasty arguments aside, I'm going to keep this strictly about the poll: I voted for "little bit of info, not everything", because I value the element of surprise. Just like the people at VALVe, I think it's better to play the game without knowing too much about the story, the characters, the vehicles, the weapons, etc. Alot of the fun is in discovering everything by yourself. I think VALVe have held back many secrets (the role of D.O.G., to name one) just to keep things exciting and new, when we play the game through for the first time. It's a key aspect. Of course, I am also eager to get my hands on this game, but I don't need a demo, let alone a buggy leaked version. Best would be if they release a bench-marking tool before release, so we have enough time to upgrade our systems, without having our game experience spoiled by too much details about the final game. Personally, I'd prefer more good interviews with the developers over more screenshots.
Letters
23-12-2003, 01:09 AM
At least I'm not the only one that doesn't know what valve is...
At least I'm not the only one that doesn't know what valve is...
lol :frog: :imu: :rolling: :O :farmer:
He@t!
23-12-2003, 08:06 AM
Release date??Whats that..But seriously..Yes i would like to know the ACTUAL release date..Throw in a new vid each month would be nice too
Pitbul
23-12-2003, 08:58 AM
i like when a game Dev tells me info to stay up to date, what estimated release date is maybe just give me a specific month. i like when they continuosly give me a few screenshots a month. maybe a movie every 2 months that would be cool.
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