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Rizzo
11-06-2009, 12:29 AM
So? What do I get? Prototyp aint even out yet though. I haven't even read any reviews.
Im asking you. What whould you get? Don't make this into a Ps3 vs Xbox thing though. I know Infamous is PS3 exclusive. But imagine here you had one.

Acepilotf14
11-06-2009, 12:31 AM
What is Prototyp?

Dalamari
11-06-2009, 12:33 AM
I love Infamous but have yet to play Prototype

so do what you want with that

Rizzo
11-06-2009, 12:36 AM
Well then... Let's Idle this thread till you have.

Is it out in America yet? It isn't here at least.

Corp. Sheepo
11-06-2009, 12:39 AM
I was watching one of my friends play Infamous at his house when another of my friends was out buying Prototype. It looked quite good, but it seemed like it could get repetitive very fast.

lefty
11-06-2009, 12:45 AM
From what I've gathered... infamous is prototype with electricity attacks, and prototype is infamous with mutant arm attacks. Right?

Warped
11-06-2009, 12:46 AM
people were asking for Prototype but didn't see it at work. wonder if it has been released or not yet

MuToiD_MaN
11-06-2009, 12:47 AM
i herd u liek prototyp

Corp. Sheepo
11-06-2009, 12:47 AM
From what I've gathered... infamous is prototype with electricity attacks, and prototype is infamous with mutant arm attacks. Right?

No, that's Prototype. We're talking about Prototyp.

Rizzo
11-06-2009, 12:48 AM
From what I've gathered... infamous is prototype with electricity attacks, and prototype is infamous with mutant arm attacks. Right?

But what to get? If only one?

Edit: I ****ing hate you Sheepo. So very much.

Acepilotf14
11-06-2009, 12:53 AM
I'm going to go rent it, if hollywood vidja has it.

Loke
11-06-2009, 12:53 AM
Actually Prototyp is the same thing as Prototype. But in Swedish.

:p

Rizzo
11-06-2009, 12:54 AM
Guess where im from?

Corp. Sheepo
11-06-2009, 01:02 AM
A vagina?

Sedako
11-06-2009, 01:03 AM
Guess where im from?

....Meh?

Loke
11-06-2009, 01:13 AM
....Meh?

Doesn't sound very exciting.

AmishSlayer
11-06-2009, 01:23 AM
Prototype is more fun.

Acepilotf14
11-06-2009, 01:42 AM
Just went to hollywood video, and they didn't ****in have it.

Those assholes.

OmegaX
11-06-2009, 01:53 AM
Haven't played Infamous. So I guess I get to vote Prototype?

Asuka
11-06-2009, 02:15 AM
Iv beaten inFamous and played about 3 hours of Prototype today. As much as i compare them before playing ether i gotta say they are 2 VERY VERY VERY different games. The only thing that both got in common is "open world".

inFamous i can tell you immediately has way better mission variety and cool factor. I can only say i truly didnt like 1 mission type in that game. Another thing about it is that it rarely repeated a mission type more then 2 times if any.

So far Prototype is a insanely mindless fun gameplay game and if it wasn't for the story i probably wouldn't like it that much. inFamous surprised the **** out of me with its GREAT ending and story. Lets see if Prototype will do the same.

Again i cant stress enough how different these games are.

I was watching one of my friends play Infamous at his house when another of my friends was out buying Prototype. It looked quite good, but it seemed like it could get repetitive very fast.

Thats exactly where Prototype goes wrong and inFamous goes right.

From what I've gathered... infamous is prototype with electricity attacks, and prototype is infamous with mutant arm attacks. Right?

100% false.

Blackthorn
11-06-2009, 02:20 AM
I am so sick of the comparisons between these two games, and it's the recent trend on the internet that's really starting to anger me. I completed Infamous today, and I consider it a great game, and I'm going to play it through again once I'm done with this file. Prototype on the other hand is a mediocre title that became overhyped because hordes Xbox fanboys were so desperate to dismiss Infamous as a good game, because it's an exclusive. If Infamous never came out, or was multiplatform, no one would give a shit about Prototype, and in a few months no one will. I'm not dismissing the game outright, I'm sure plenty of people enjoy it objectively, but the hype around Prototype is entirely unjustified, along with the obsolete Prototype vs Infamous debate that has been spawned because of it.

Asuka
11-06-2009, 02:25 AM
I am so sick of the comparisons between these two games, and it's the recent trend on the internet that's really starting to anger me. I completed Infamous today, and I consider it a great game, and I'm going to play it through again once I'm done with this file. Prototype on the other hand is a mediocre title that became overhyped because hordes Xbox fanboys were so desperate to dismiss Infamous as a good game, because it's an exclusive. If Infamous never came out, or was multiplatform, no one would give a shit about Prototype, and in a few months no one will. I'm not dismissing the game outright, I'm sure plenty of people enjoy it objectively, but the hype around Prototype is entirely unjustified, along with the obsolete Prototype vs Infamous debate that has been spawned because of it.

I agree with the obsolete Prototype vs Infamous debate but dont dismiss Prototype as your everyday game. The web of intrigue really works and the story moves a long at a very good pace. With that said if it wasn't for the interesting story it would be meh. But story plus hundreds of innocent people getting sliced, ripped, ran over, blow up, stomped on etc etc makes it greater then mediocre SO FAR. Now this is me talking with about 3-4 hours in. I could have an opinion change. inFamous on the other hand has proven itself as a solid 9.0 game.

Krynn72
11-06-2009, 05:10 AM
I've only seen my friend playing Infamous, and heard their opinions on it, and it seems like Prototype would be better. I played an hour and a half of it and loved it. Check out my post in the prototype thread to see my initial thoughts on it.

Cpt Tenacious
11-06-2009, 05:24 AM
Both, Infamous v Prototype is basically PS3 v Xbox360.

Blackthorn
11-06-2009, 05:58 AM
Both, Infamous v Prototype is basically PS3 v Xbox360.
You realise Prototype is on PS3 too, right?

smwScott
11-06-2009, 06:16 AM
Wow ... 70% of the people on this board have invalid opinions. Either that or they vote without any knowledge of at least one of the games.

Infamous is a much, much, much better game than Prototype. It's like GTAIV to Saints Row. One is a truly excellent game, the other is good for some mindless fun but overall not that special. I don't want to piss all over Prototype because it's not like it's terrible or anything ... it does its thing a lot better than other open-world games like Saints Row ... but it just ain't in the same league as Infamous.

AmishSlayer
11-06-2009, 06:39 AM
I find it weird that people are finding less repetition in Infamous than they are in Prototype. The side missions felt very tedious in Infamous for me. I actually started skipping some of them (I'm looking at you surveillance device missions) and most of them were way too easy (the tiny race challenges that had like 3-5 checkpoints). The powers got boring to me quicker, traversing the city isn't fun, wreaking havoc isn't fun and the story was typical until the ending.

Infamous may have more polish and better graphics, but I think Prototype has better content (more of it too) and a much larger fun-factor.

Combine Hybrid
11-06-2009, 07:22 AM
Wow ... 70% of the people on this board have invalid opinions. Either that or they vote without any knowledge of at least one of the games.

Infamous is a much, much, much better game than Prototype. It's like GTAIV to Saints Row. One is a truly excellent game, the other is good for some mindless fun but overall not that special. I don't want to piss all over Prototype because it's not like it's terrible or anything ... it does its thing a lot better than other open-world games like Saints Row ... but it just ain't in the same league as Infamous.

And your opinion is valid?

Fail...

MorganFreeman911
11-06-2009, 07:41 AM
I havn't played Infamous yet, but it does look very good. On the other hand, I find Prototype to be an amazing game, that's INCREDIBLY fun.

MultiVaC
11-06-2009, 10:53 AM
How about Red Faction: Guerrilla? I haven't tried any of these games yet, but I've heard that one was good from some people.

Rizzo
11-06-2009, 12:48 PM
I get that they are different games, but I want to know which one is better, since im only getting one.

Corp. Sheepo
11-06-2009, 01:10 PM
Wow ... 70% of the people on this board have invalid opinions. Either that or they vote without any knowledge of at least one of the games.

Infamous is a much, much, much better game than Prototype. It's like GTAIV to Saints Row. One is a truly excellent game, the other is good for some mindless fun but overall not that special. I don't want to piss all over Prototype because it's not like it's terrible or anything ... it does its thing a lot better than other open-world games like Saints Row ... but it just ain't in the same league as Infamous.

You mean it's a conflict between pretentious and boring vs fun and entertaining?

Virtually every one I know hated GTA4 (and they have fine taste) and thought it was GTA with the fun sucked out. I'm inclined to agree based on what I've played. I don't see why they can't both be good, even for two different reasons.

Cpt Tenacious
11-06-2009, 01:14 PM
You realise Prototype is on PS3 too, right?


Yeah.

KagePrototype
11-06-2009, 03:15 PM
They're all on the same level for different reasons IMO.

In Red Faction you can blow buildings up, but it has a rubbish story and world.

In Prototype you can run up buildings and glide through the air at super-human speed, but everything else is lame and uninteresting.

In Infamous your good/bad choices have an effect on the story, but the gameplay isn't quite as insane as the other two.

VictimOfScience
11-06-2009, 03:29 PM
Yeah, asking a bunch of people which game is better is not going to get you very far I fear. The games each have similarities, but you could also compare them to the Hulk and Spiderman and other such titles just as well.

It comes down to what you like in a game and what will keep your interest. In GTA4, the ability to cause loads of mayhem very quickly keeps me into it, not the story. Was that a fault of the story or a testament to how good the actual gameplay is? Maybe it is both? Either way, do yourself a favor and rent them and then decide. You may not even want to spend the full $60 on either if you beat them and don't feel the urge to do it again....

Slug Advisor
11-06-2009, 04:15 PM
Wow ... 70% of the people on this board have invalid opinions.

invalid opinions

http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk152/IceMenorah/00000575.jpg

I haven't played either, but while Prototype looks damn fun, Infamous looks absolutely delicious.

CyberPitz
11-06-2009, 05:13 PM
Who's got invalid onions?

Stigmata
11-06-2009, 05:39 PM
Monsanto. They're working on it.

13LACKBISHOP
11-06-2009, 06:13 PM
Prototype..... easy

jimbo118
11-06-2009, 08:42 PM
Just picked up Infamous. First impression - graphics are pretty weak, the framerate drops alot. Like Uncharted the game doesnt support 1080i/p. Lotsa jaggies and pop-up.

Gargantou
11-06-2009, 09:12 PM
Wow ... 70% of the people on this board have invalid opinions. Either that or they vote without any knowledge of at least one of the games.

Infamous is a much, much, much better game than Prototype. It's like GTAIV to Saints Row. One is a truly excellent game, the other is good for some mindless fun but overall not that special. I don't want to piss all over Prototype because it's not like it's terrible or anything ... it does its thing a lot better than other open-world games like Saints Row ... but it just ain't in the same league as Infamous.And yet another quality fanboy post.

I swear, if Prototype was PS3 exclusive and inFamous was multiplatform, you'd be saying the exact opposite.

Letters
11-06-2009, 09:19 PM
They both look terrible. Save your money.

(voted Prototype though :P)

WhiteZero
12-06-2009, 02:59 AM
Havent played inFamous, but I've just played a good 2 hours of Prototype (PC) and I'm really enjoying it.

Warped
12-06-2009, 06:13 AM
I just got inFamous today and been playing with a friend for about 4 hours straight. we'd do a few missions each then level up and hand the controller over. every mission seemed different from the last and so far its a nice game

Combine Hybrid
12-06-2009, 07:13 AM
I downloaded Prototype and been playing it, it's an awesome game so far.

I'm planning to buy the overrated infamous, since so many people are praising it (most likely sony fanboys), but whatever... I need some new games to keep me accompany.

Warped
12-06-2009, 08:28 AM
I downloaded Prototype and been playing it, it's an awesome game so far.

I'm planning to buy the overrated infamous, since so many people are praising it (most likely sony fanboys), but whatever... I need some new games to keep me accompany.

i don't know about infamous being overrated but i'm playing it on the default medium and its a blast! its really addictive and easy to get into. its like GTA but actually fun!

Nibwoddle
12-06-2009, 09:27 AM
If you want Prototype now, play Hulk Ultimate Destruction. It's an IDENTICAL game, with the same developer, the same engine, the same animations and the exact same feel when you hit a button. Except you play as the Hulk.

jimbo118
12-06-2009, 06:34 PM
Infamous: AGH why do developers not allow players to skip cutscenes anymore!? Also what's with the game's first movie playing every time I start the game. Is it to hide the load-times? Also the game doesnt auto-save nearly enough.

stemot
12-06-2009, 09:06 PM
I've not played Infamous or Hulk but Protoype is the most fun I've had from a game since Wolverine Uncaged..

smwScott
13-06-2009, 03:41 AM
You mean it's a conflict between pretentious and boring vs fun and entertaining?

Virtually every one I know hated GTA4 (and they have fine taste) and thought it was GTA with the fun sucked out. I'm inclined to agree based on what I've played. I don't see why they can't both be good, even for two different reasons.

Prototype is fun and entertaining, and that's fine. I don't dislike the game, I'm just tired of it being compared to a fairly different and much better game. I really doubt that the majority of people on here have played both or even seen much of both. Anyway, Prototype isn't a bad game ... it's just out of its league. Infamous is genuinely very good, though it has its flaws .. and people would do well to take a look at it.

But you're wrong about saying GTAIV is "pretentious". It's not ... it just isn't retarded like almost every other game (Saints Row). If someone dislikes it that's fine ... but claiming they dislike it because it's pretentious makes them look very stupid. That's an overused argument that simple people pull out to make others feel bad for liking something that's even remotely mature or in the case of video games ... not retarded. GTAIV just tells an entertaining, somber, and dramatic story while at the same time providing tons of fun gameplay, immature and irreverent humor, and a great atmosphere. People generally like Saints Row because it lets you run around naked and make your character look like a hermaphrodite, not because the game is good (it isn't).

My point is that you can have a good game that is extremely fun and entertaining while also providing a lot of narrative and atmospheric quality at the same time. GTAIV is far more than just its story, and even people who don't appreciate it can have a great time. Fun and entertaining does not necessarily equal stupid ... a lot of people can't seem to grasp that.

And yet another quality fanboy post.

I swear, if Prototype was PS3 exclusive and inFamous was multiplatform, you'd be saying the exact opposite.

Don't be an idiot. If you disagree with what I said, explain why. Otherwise you're just being a name-calling jackass.

Kyorisu
13-06-2009, 04:19 AM
GTA bored the hell out of me. I don't know what you were playing.

Acepilotf14
13-06-2009, 05:01 AM
Prototype is just awesome.
Hands down.
I went and rented it. This is.. I might actually buy the game itself so that I can play it more.

DEAR GOD. THE CLAW. HUNTERS RAHERTNADA EPIC BATTALS

What's also fun to do is take the form of a soldier, get a gun, and go to an infected/army crossover area and play ZOMBIE SURVIVAL.

MorganFreeman911
13-06-2009, 05:14 AM
Prototype is just awesome.
Hands down.
I went and rented it. This is.. I might actually buy the game itself so that I can play it more.

DEAR GOD. THE CLAW. HUNTERS RAHERTNADA EPIC BATTALS

What's also fun to do is take the form of a soldier, get a gun, and go to an infected/army crossover area and play ZOMBIE SURVIVAL.

*THIS*
I agree, I'm only on like mission 8, but i've logged quite a few hours of just minigame/roaming. Enjoying every second.

the cow says moo
13-06-2009, 05:52 AM
These two games remind me of Ninja Blade and Ninja Gaiden 2: it took me months to figure out that they were in fact two different games, as hard as that is to believe.

Remus
13-06-2009, 06:02 AM
Been playing prototype for a few hours and it's good, not mind blowing but still good fun while it lasts. My only complaint is the fighting and shooting mechanics, which I find to be very rigid and restrictive... Press this button to lock onto a target, use mouse cursor to cycle targets... Yeah... how about letting me aim?

Now for the good things.
Hijacking an armored vehicle and going on a rampage is a lot of fun especially since there are a lot of destructible objects around.
Disguising myself as a policeman and walking up buildings as bystanders go WTF, priceless.
Also throwing cars never gets old.:P

As for the story... nothing special, the same old government conspiracy.
What I find unrealistic is how calm the military is... they made this virus which practically behaves the same as "the thing", they know how dangerous it is yet they continue to send soldiers on foot, tanks and choppers to get sliced and diced. Nuke the city from orbit it's the only way to make sure.

Krynn72
13-06-2009, 08:02 AM
Don't be an idiot. If you disagree with what I said, explain why. Otherwise you're just being a name-calling jackass.

Says the guy who told everyone they had invalid opinions.

smwScott
13-06-2009, 08:39 AM
Says the guy who told everyone they had invalid opinions.

Fair enough, but I meant that to be a bit humorous.

kazsymonds
13-06-2009, 11:46 AM
Fair enough, but I meant that to be a bit humorous.

All of your posts in this thread have been humourous, just not in the way you intended.

So is prototype any good then? I dont buy games too often so i may rent this first as it neither look 'all that'.

Corp. Sheepo
13-06-2009, 02:51 PM
I have played and seen both, and while Infamous may be 'better', Prototype is a lot more fun.

Gargantou
13-06-2009, 02:57 PM
I actually kinda like Prototype, I'd give it a 7.5-8.0 out of 10, whereas I would give say GTAIV an 8.5, just for comparison.

Thing is, Prototype is quite rough around the edges, no pretty graphics, no great storyline etc, however, what it does well, is fun, the different powers are great, the missions and events are also very fun, it took me a very long time to get bored of slicing innocent civilians up with my knife, just as though they were bread and butter.

However, another of the reasons I'm only giving it a 7.5 is that I'm getting bored of the sandbox genre overall, it feels as if every second game that comes out this generation is a sandbox game, each title proclaiming to be the SANDBOX GAME OF THE YEAR OMFGS!!

Corp. Sheepo
13-06-2009, 03:03 PM
What annoys me is that I have yet to play a single sandbox game that takes place in a sandbox.

Gargantou
13-06-2009, 03:29 PM
What annoys me is that I have yet to play a single sandbox game that takes place in a sandbox.Get out.

Remus
13-06-2009, 03:57 PM
What annoys me is that I have yet to play a single sandbox game that takes place in a sandbox.

Be careful what you wish for.

"Announcing the future best sandbox game of the decade, Ants in a sandbox, OMGWTFBBQ!!11"



"Rated T for teen"

jimbo118
13-06-2009, 04:23 PM
Started doing more good missions in Infamous. Really enjoying it. Love finding the dead drops and shards.

Alan00000
13-06-2009, 04:42 PM
yeah infamous is way better , and whats with the graphics on prototype its so 5 years ago. If prototype had infamous graphics i would have purchased them both.

Krynn72
13-06-2009, 04:53 PM
yeah infamous is way better , and whats with the graphics on prototype its so 5 years ago. If prototype had infamous graphics i would have purchased them both.

You are the reason we can't have nice things.

Sedako
13-06-2009, 04:53 PM
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f18/Sedako/agame.jpg

Corp. Sheepo
13-06-2009, 04:55 PM
Man, I was going to mock him but you already got two insulting posts in before I even finished.

Remus
13-06-2009, 05:19 PM
Well it's too bad the actual game doesn't look more like the concept art...

http://img.neoseeker.com/ca/prototype_conceptart_xerHP.jpg

But I still think it compensates with the fun factor.

Also I would like to ask the forum members that live in Manhattan, how accurate is it recreated in the game?

Combine Hybrid
13-06-2009, 07:06 PM
Trust me, if Infamous was anything like Prototype, about 75 npcs with fire fight and blowing up everywhere at the same time in the screen, the graphic would look worse or in par with Prototype. BTW, It's not like infamous has awesome graphic to begin with.

KagePrototype
13-06-2009, 08:06 PM
Note: to anyone about to do the Times Square mission, make sure you have an hour or so to spare and something to take your rage out on. The guy who implemented that mission needs a swift kick to the face. :x

Gargantou
13-06-2009, 09:48 PM
I had no problems with that mission, in fact, the only mission I really had problems with was the final mission, this was on Normal difficulty mind you!

Remus
13-06-2009, 10:48 PM
I love the military reports. I always LOL at how much money they spend trying to stop me.:P

Warped
13-06-2009, 11:03 PM
my friend at work bought Prototype and I just got a $400 bonus check from work so I think I'll buy it from work. He said it was fun and the difference between the games is a lot. Proto is rated M and very bloody while inFamous is rated Teen. Also I wanted both of them from the get go

Remus
14-06-2009, 01:23 AM
Well I just reached a mission where you have to go and collect genetic material inside a hive, and this random military dude shows up and the bastard managed to beat the crap out of me with a shock stick and an assault rifle... :|. What the flying ****? The character is able to kill dozens of people instantly, punch through tanks with his bare hands and this pathetic guy kills him. Yeah that makes perfect sense...

Stigmata
14-06-2009, 04:42 PM
Perhaps the critical factor in your death was the shock stick?

Prototype is ****ing awesome. Free running/parkour is nearly flawless, the powers are great... it's all been said in this thread, and it's all true. Oh and the graphics are actually pretty good.

stemot
14-06-2009, 04:49 PM
Well I just reached a mission where you have to go and collect genetic material inside a hive, and this random military dude shows up and the bastard managed to beat the crap out of me with a shock stick and an assault rifle... :|. What the flying ****? The character is able to kill dozens of people instantly, punch through tanks with his bare hands and this pathetic guy kills him. Yeah that makes perfect sense...

I used the whip power on him every time he reloads, that beats him quite easily.

Rizzo
14-06-2009, 07:26 PM
I guess I'll get prototype. I know someone who have Infamous, and might be able to borrow it from him.

AmishSlayer
14-06-2009, 10:07 PM
Well I just reached a mission where you have to go and collect genetic material inside a hive, and this random military dude shows up and the bastard managed to beat the crap out of me with a shock stick and an assault rifle... :|. What the flying ****? The character is able to kill dozens of people instantly, punch through tanks with his bare hands and this pathetic guy kills him. Yeah that makes perfect sense...

Who says he 's a normal soldier?

zombieturtle01
15-06-2009, 03:39 AM
Still not convinced to spend 60 on Prototype, I haven't heard enough raving reviews, and more just "it's pretty good" reviews, even from people who love those sort of games.

Gargantou
15-06-2009, 09:04 AM
Who says he 's a normal soldier?Now now, no spoilers Amish..;)

Acepilotf14
15-06-2009, 09:31 AM
I shit my pants after the end of that one mission where they were retreating and it showed from the infected point of view.

Gargantou
15-06-2009, 11:35 AM
The Specialist is in reality PARIAH, the child that was taken out of MOTHER during the Hope outbreak.

DigiQ8
15-06-2009, 02:49 PM
Infamous > Prototype

Krynn72
15-06-2009, 03:04 PM
Still not convinced to spend 60 on Prototype, I haven't heard enough raving reviews, and more just "it's pretty good" reviews, even from people who love those sort of games.

Did you like crackdown? Because if you did, you'll like this game even more.

Gargantou
15-06-2009, 03:34 PM
Infamous > PrototypePrototype > Infamous

DigiQ8
15-06-2009, 03:53 PM
Still not convinced to spend 60 on Prototype, I haven't heard enough raving reviews, and more just "it's pretty good" reviews, even from people who love those sort of games.
Get Infamous.

Corp. Sheepo
15-06-2009, 04:08 PM
Get Prototype?

DigiQ8
15-06-2009, 04:56 PM
Infamous is one of the best games I've ever played. Great story, great gameplay and a ****ing nice ending.

Stigmata
15-06-2009, 06:05 PM
Still not convinced to spend 60 on Prototype, I haven't heard enough raving reviews, and more just "it's pretty good" reviews, even from people who love those sort of games.
What if I usually don't like these games much, but still think Prototype is definitely worth the price?

stemot
15-06-2009, 07:18 PM
http://www.destructoid.com/how-prototype-is-blatantly-better-than-infamous-135979.phtml

Lol

Rico
15-06-2009, 07:41 PM
Heh thats hilarious.

And for anyone doubting, Prototype is AMAZING

I've never been pulled into a sandbox game quite like this. I have GTA4, never finished it yet because I got bored... Then along comes prototype and I was hooked on it after just 10 minutes.

Seriously, go out and get it! There are a few things that could have made the game better, but the only reason they even come to mind is because this game is so damn FUN that I don't want to stop playing it:

1) More mission types
2) More enemy types (more super powered enemies would be cool)
3) More guns
4) Multiplayer

Seriously, this is the first game I'd ever consider buying DLC for. Coop + War missions would be badass!

giant384
15-06-2009, 10:08 PM
so anyone pissed with all of the bugs that the pc version of prototype has? cant even play the damn game at lowest settings.

Samon
15-06-2009, 10:10 PM
So guys what about Beyond Good and Evil.

DigiQ8
15-06-2009, 10:32 PM
So guys what about Beyond Good and Evil.
It's the best game ever.

so anyone pissed with all of the bugs that the pc version of prototype has? cant even play the damn game at lowest settings.

It works fine here.

stemot
15-06-2009, 11:29 PM
So guys what about Beyond Good and Evil.

Didn't like the controls or the shabby stealth implementation.....Oops...I mean...Best game ever. Yes.

Alan00000
16-06-2009, 12:25 AM
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f18/Sedako/agame.jpg

thats right baby!

Raziaar
16-06-2009, 12:42 AM
So guys what about Beyond Good and Evil.

What are you, a god damn Ubisoft employee?

Warped
16-06-2009, 12:51 AM
http://www.destructoid.com/how-prototype-is-blatantly-better-than-infamous-135979.phtml

Lol

funny article, I'll have to try Prototype out when I'm done with inFamous and Wolverine

Sam
16-06-2009, 01:05 AM
Would I get enough of either of these games in a week to justify renting either of them?

Krynn72
16-06-2009, 01:48 AM
How many hours would you play? I've put in probably six to seven hours into prototype and I think i'm not even a quarter of the way through it yet.

Sam
16-06-2009, 02:01 AM
A fair bit. I'm not at university or work at the moment. Lots of free time.

AHA-Lambda
16-06-2009, 09:03 AM
What are you, a god damn Ubisoft employee?

I think he's had a mental breakdown and is trying to compensate by focusing on good games. BG&E being one of the few.

Warped
16-06-2009, 09:15 AM
Would I get enough of either of these games in a week to justify renting either of them?

rentals are always a good choice. that way your not disappointed and your saving yourself some money. or hell, just wait for the price to drop

MRG
16-06-2009, 09:58 AM
Prototype is a rather fun game in my humble opinion.

After about an hour of playing, I found myself well on my way to overlooking the visuals & thus began to pay attention to the fun game play instead. Never before have I felt so like a God in a game, yet at the same time worrying about dying.

After the "Teaser" at the start of the game of whats to come, you begin to fully appreciate just what it is your character will be able to do in time, provided you keep an "Open Mind". I have not played Infamous, so I can not compare the two.

Regardless, Prototype is a fun game, provided you can see beyond it's dated visuals & reused textures.

-MRG

Lone Wolf
16-06-2009, 12:06 PM
Tempted to hire Prototype, but also tempted to buy because it means I can have it without getting off my arse.

Decisions decisions...

ríomhaire
16-06-2009, 12:58 PM
Damn. I can't decide whether to get Prototype, InFamous or Red Faction. I have a gift voucher burning a hole in my pocket too so I can pick one up for less than €20.

Nicky 0123
16-06-2009, 01:01 PM
Red Faction.

Rizzo
16-06-2009, 01:01 PM
Damn. I can't decide whether to get Prototype, InFamous or Red Faction. I have a gift voucher burning a hole in my pocket too so I can pick one up for less than €20.

I know right? I am getting prototype though. I just think it looks so god damn fun. But I never accounted for red faction... Maybe I should get that.

ríomhaire
16-06-2009, 01:25 PM
Ok, currently inFamous is losing the battle for my money. It's neck and neck between Prototype and Red Faction though. Must check out some gameplay vids.

Rico
16-06-2009, 06:42 PM
For a console or PC?

Warped
16-06-2009, 06:44 PM
Get one now, and buy one in like 6 months for $30! you know there will be a price drop

13LACKBISHOP
16-06-2009, 08:19 PM
http://www.destructoid.com/how-prototype-is-blatantly-better-than-infamous-135979.phtml

Lol

Lolz indeed.

Guys right though.

Rizzo
16-06-2009, 09:32 PM
Prototype was awesome. I ****ing love it.

TollBooth Willie
17-06-2009, 08:21 AM
Can't speak for Infamous since I haven't played it, but Prototype was ****ing awesome as **** from start to finish.

Edit: btw I would have plowed Elizabeth Greene, even if she was a 50+ year old walking talking virus.

Gargantou
17-06-2009, 11:12 AM
Can't speak for Infamous since I haven't played it, but Prototype was ****ing awesome as **** from start to finish.

Edit: btw I would have plowed Elizabeth Greene, even if she was a 50+ year old walking talking virus.Get out... NOW!

Nibwoddle
17-06-2009, 12:12 PM
I plan on getting both Prototype and Red Faction. Infamous though... eh.

nurizeko
17-06-2009, 01:44 PM
Can't speak for Infamous since I haven't played it, but Prototype was ****ing awesome as **** from start to finish.

Edit: btw I would have plowed Elizabeth Greene, even if she was a 50+ year old walking talking virus.

I concur with this. inFamous....a PS3 exclusive wwith slow ass wall climbing, underwhelming electricity sparkle powers, and some street thugs. Wow...

Fair do's it has better graphics but thats because it isn't rendering an entire city of people, military and infected at a go.

Prototype FTW TBH.


As for Elizabeth Greene, the herpes on her face is kind of off-putting.

Edit: Oh and the herpes she has given to the city, thats some ****ing STD man.

Rizzo
17-06-2009, 08:48 PM
Great that Willie edited in that spoiler tag. With all the quoting I mean.

I hope for all your sake that you didn't ruin anything important for me. I will **** you up.

Hectic Glenn
17-06-2009, 09:39 PM
Been playing Prototype for the past 3 days, started getting some awesome upgrades now. Love this game, everything is so much fun. It's rare for me to stick with the singleplayer for new games, but this one keeps is actually very good. :D

TollBooth Willie
17-06-2009, 10:18 PM
I concur with this. inFamous....a PS3 exclusive wwith slow ass wall climbing, underwhelming electricity sparkle powers, and some street thugs. Wow...

Fair do's it has better graphics but thats because it isn't rendering an entire city of people, military and infected at a go.

Prototype FTW TBH.


As for Elizabeth Greene, the herpes on her face is kind of off-putting.

Edit: Oh and the herpes she has given to the city, thats some ****ing STD man.You'd still hit it.

I find it odd that the Whipfist became the most useful power in the game. Funny because I thought it would end up being weak and useless besides skyjacking.

nurizeko
18-06-2009, 02:30 AM
Do you have to buy the sky-jacking?, I got the whipfist but so far I'm still jumping around trying to give the heli's a good kick in the chops (I dunno why but I keep forgetting I can throw things at them when I am fighting them...).

Actually I've noticed I don't throw stuff around much at all.

I just get stuck in.

TollBooth Willie
18-06-2009, 02:40 AM
You gain the ability to skyjack after you learn to pilot helicopters in one mission.

Krynn72
18-06-2009, 07:38 AM
I'm kinda disappointed in the other forms to be honest. Whipfist is pretty much the only power I use since the others can't even compare. The sword looks badass, but sucks dickballs against anything but tanks, and even then its just "meh" when you can just highjack a helicopter and blow it to shit. Hammerfists I've hardly used because its too slow and not powerful enough to be worth it. Musclemass is just stupid. I dont think i've found any use for it whatsoever. I'm not even sure what exactly it does. Claws is cool because of the spikes-out-of-the-ground thing, but once you get the better version that doesnt require claws, then its not as cool.

I basically just use whipfist for everything because its ****ing awesome, and sometimes I might use the sword to take out a tank.

Also, the armor... holy **** it looks badass. When I first got it along with the sword, I D-Colon'd hard because it was amazing looking.

TollBooth Willie
18-06-2009, 07:46 AM
Hammerfist is weak and slow you say?

1. Climb to highest point you can reach

2. Sprint and charge Hammertoss attack

3. Hold on to your asshole

4. Laugh your ass off as you fly across NYC, but refer to step 3 or it may actually fall off

stemot
18-06-2009, 07:28 PM
I'm kinda disappointed in the other forms to be honest. Whipfist is pretty much the only power I use since the others can't even compare. The sword looks badass, but sucks dickballs against anything but tanks, and even then its just "meh" when you can just highjack a helicopter and blow it to shit. Hammerfists I've hardly used because its too slow and not powerful enough to be worth it. Musclemass is just stupid. I dont think i've found any use for it whatsoever. I'm not even sure what exactly it does. Claws is cool because of the spikes-out-of-the-ground thing, but once you get the better version that doesnt require claws, then its not as cool.

I basically just use whipfist for everything because its ****ing awesome, and sometimes I might use the sword to take out a tank.

Also, the armor... holy **** it looks badass. When I first got it along with the sword, I D-Colon'd hard because it was amazing looking.

The sword, when fully upgraded is brilliant against the bosses, or just cutting up general infected while on the fly. Hammerfist is powerful if you lock on to something first.
Musclemass is used to throw cars and helicopters further and at greater impact., again, useful for bosses.

The only time I used whipfist was for the helicopters, all other times I was on the ground if I tried using it in a fight :D.

Gargantou
18-06-2009, 07:44 PM
I just got a PS3, strapped on cash now though, so I won't be getting inFamous til later this year.:)

Hectic Glenn
18-06-2009, 08:16 PM
I'm kinda disappointed in the other forms to be honest. Whipfist is pretty much the only power I use since the others can't even compare. The sword looks badass, but sucks dickballs against anything but tanks, and even then its just "meh" when you can just highjack a helicopter and blow it to shit. Hammerfists I've hardly used because its too slow and not powerful enough to be worth it. Musclemass is just stupid. I dont think i've found any use for it whatsoever. I'm not even sure what exactly it does. Claws is cool because of the spikes-out-of-the-ground thing, but once you get the better version that doesnt require claws, then its not as cool.

I basically just use whipfist for everything because its ****ing awesome, and sometimes I might use the sword to take out a tank.

Also, the armor... holy **** it looks badass. When I first got it along with the sword, I D-Colon'd hard because it was amazing looking.
I use whipfist for latching on for a skyjack, but apart from that in combat I don't see how you find it that useful. The sweeping whip attack is pretty useful but no where near as good as the sword fist. I just got the flying sword stab thingy, amazing for hunters / tanks. And the slashing kills anything in seconds.

I agree with musclemass and hammerfists, I rarely use either. The armour does look so awesome, but I don't use it as I can't live without parkour :( Normal shield for running through crowds ftw. I wish changing armour wasn't so fiddly...

nurizeko
19-06-2009, 02:03 AM
I just do the regular jump attack at helicopters and try and time the jacking for just before my foot lands.

Gotta say, Prototype is crazy ass fun. Its got the US armed forces, its got mutants/zombies and its got civilians if your really that evil, its got everything you need to cause pure chaos and enjoy it.

AmishSlayer
19-06-2009, 04:53 AM
I used musclemass a lot on bosses. It's very helpful to chop away at their life by charge-throwing shit at them.

I think my favorite form (albeit impractical at times) was the Hammerfist. I loved launching myself 1.5 city blocks yelling, "HERE COMES THE RAIL-SPLITTER!" (among friends of course) and absolutely crushing anything that was anywhere near ground zero.

Anybody try out the platinum challenges yet? I got all gold on everything and like 17 of my scores transferred to platinum. Haven't played the game since.

Saturos
19-06-2009, 05:32 AM
I've never heard of either of these games until now tbh. Where's that option? :|

nurizeko
19-06-2009, 01:21 PM
I've never heard of either of these games until now tbh. Where's that option? :|

Get Prototype if you want to have crazy ass fun.

Get inFamous if your a PS3 nerd, or generally of the same state of mind as a typical macfag who choses their computer more as a fashion statement/being "different" then for its actualy practical value.

BHC
19-06-2009, 01:56 PM
Or get neither and save yourself the cash until one or the other approaches a reasonable sub $60USD price tag.

nurizeko
19-06-2009, 03:01 PM
Or get neither and save yourself the cash until one or the other approaches a reasonable sub $60USD price tag.

This is sound advice, but it all depends how cheap/poor you are.

13LACKBISHOP
19-06-2009, 07:53 PM
Or get neither and save yourself the cash until one or the other approaches a reasonable sub $60USD price tag.

If you trade in terminator salvation you can get it for 15 quid at gamestation(Or game I cant remember).

AHA-Lambda
19-06-2009, 07:58 PM
I think its a tenner if you trade in terminator but who actually bought it??

I got my copy of prototype for 3 quid when I traded in guitar hero metallica and rock band ACDC live

Gargantou
19-06-2009, 08:25 PM
You trade in games!?

Are you insane!?

Sam
19-06-2009, 11:48 PM
It amuses me that you can trade in the AC/DC track pack. You can rip the songs from it to play in RB1/2 then get some money back.

AHA-Lambda
20-06-2009, 01:18 AM
You trade in games!?

Are you insane!?

very, very rarely do I trade games in and besides I've already started to get sick of guitar hero/rock band so I traded those in considering the deal I got.

Raziaar
20-06-2009, 01:32 AM
You trade in games!?

Are you insane!?

I never understand the idea of trading in games either.

It's a shitty terrible deal in my opinion.

Saturos
20-06-2009, 04:05 AM
You trade in games!?

Are you insane!?^This

Places like Gamestop are a huge ripoff. They tend to go by the popularity of the game rather than the content and ratings when pricing trade-ins and if the disk is in poor condition, expect even less. Older games tend to be less popular and you'd be lucky to only get a buck for them.

Usually it's around 5 games (if the games are popular at the time) for the price of 1 brand new.

Adrik_Senturu
20-06-2009, 05:51 AM
I bought prototype today and within the first 10 minutes of the game it let me body surf someone, jump god knows how many feet into the air, ELBOW DROP a tank, and then throw it at a helicopter.

Holy Shit. Go get this now.

TollBooth Willie
20-06-2009, 10:12 AM
http://www.penny-arcade.com/images/2009/20090619.jpg

13LACKBISHOP
20-06-2009, 11:58 AM
I think its a tenner if you trade in terminator but who actually bought it??

I got my copy of prototype for 3 quid when I traded in guitar hero metallica and rock band ACDC live

holy **** anyway my mate did so thought i would mention it

Stigmata
20-06-2009, 04:01 PM
http://www.penny-arcade.com/images/2009/20090619.jpg
This sums up the thread quite nicely.

AHA-Lambda
20-06-2009, 05:42 PM
oh btw I traded those games in at an independent games store who gave me a really good deal, if i went to gamestation I would probably have got like 7 quid for both >_>

Rizzo
22-06-2009, 12:57 AM
Anyone have any tip of how to bring down the second supreme hunter? You know the one I mean...

Sedako
22-06-2009, 01:21 AM
oh btw I traded those games in at an independent games store who gave me a really good deal, if i went to gamestation I would probably have got like 7 quid for both >_>

It's almost always better to sell them via ebay or craiglist or similar. I'll never trade games in, because most of the time you get massively ripped off.

Combine Hybrid
22-06-2009, 01:34 AM
http://www.penny-arcade.com/images/2009/20090619.jpg

The one and only reason why Prototype is clearly the better game than unfamous. :frown:

SamuraiKenji
22-06-2009, 03:21 AM
Was just playing Prototype. I took out 2 Strike Teams of helicopters (Three apache) and a few other helicopters by karate-kicking them then using the whipfist (A whip-like arm with a blade on the end) to finish them off. And from there i went body surfing (5 chain combo FTW) and chucking infected at shit. I went on top of the Chrysler building, jumped 50 feet into the air and chucked an infected half-way across Manhattan. ****ing get this game, right now.

EDIT: I also went running through a crowd of 50 people, at full speed, with a shopping cart. You can imagine what happened when i hit. (I also did this with cars, logs, metal poles and park benches)

TollBooth Willie
22-06-2009, 03:31 AM
Anyone have any tip of how to bring down the second supreme hunter? You know the one I mean...Use Whipfist to strike him from afar and throw the munitions lying around the carrier at him. Run away when he gets ready to use his Devastator. Blade works nice on him if you can get in close and stun him. Also the Critical Pain devastator does decent damage.

SamuraiKenji
22-06-2009, 03:35 AM
Also - Throw helicopters at him.




FYI, Pariah doesn't show up in Prototype. The end was just the Surprime Hunter you fight earliier in the game, but somehow got Alex's powers (maybe from him stepping in the hunters blood?)


Also - there's only 1 surprime hunter. Both fights are the same one.

Hectic Glenn
22-06-2009, 03:35 AM
That one took me ages. Throw lots of things at him if you get a chance, and hijack an APC and throw a few rounds at him. He will blow the thing up in one swipe when he gets near you though unfortunately.

But yeah, equip the shield and keep parkouring around collecting health, while chipping away with whipfist. If you stun = bladefist time.

SamuraiKenji
22-06-2009, 03:49 AM
I died the first fight, second time it took me down to where he only had about | | <- that much health, and THEN it stunned him. I was like "WTF" but i was also like "Awesome i owned him without stuns :D"

Rizzo
22-06-2009, 07:03 PM
Done. But I thought that Pariah changed into that hunter. Becouse that captain was Pariah right? If not where the hell did he go? I remember the scene where Alex steps in the pool of blood, and the hand pokes up. The cutscenes where a bit vague though. A bit rushed maybe.

TollBooth Willie
22-06-2009, 09:47 PM
Done. But I thought that Pariah changed into that hunter. Becouse that captain was Pariah right? If not where the hell did he go? I remember the scene where Alex steps in the pool of blood, and the hand pokes up. The cutscenes where a bit vague though. A bit rushed maybe. Pariah wasn't in the game. He's being saved for a later installment. Cross could not have been Pariah, since he's a normal human being when we first meet him, but there's also a cutscene in the mission after you kill Greene that shows through the eyes of the infected attacking Cross and his squad. This is where the Supreme Hunter consumes him and becomes the Supreme Hybrid and retains the form of Cross until he betrays Alex. The hand poking up was the Supreme Hunter reformng its body after Alex stepped in the puddle.

It's also said that if Alex and Pariah had met that it would be "very, very bad".

Rizzo
22-06-2009, 09:52 PM
Oh yeah. I just asumed becouse of cross being such a badass. I thought that infecto vision was just another hunter, reaviling Cross to be infected himself. Hence him being badass.

zombieturtle01
24-06-2009, 09:27 PM
Some of the directions in Prototype are awful.

How the hell do you sabotage viral detectors?

Like, I can't destroy them, so it tells me to fast right click, and so I do that and it's like "wrong sequence!" and then random numbers will appear at the top quickly like i am supposed to hit those, but then the alarm just goes off.

FishBulb
24-06-2009, 09:38 PM
You only need to right click once to start sabotaging, then press the numbers as they come up.

SamuraiKenji
24-06-2009, 10:13 PM
It's like a quick-time moment

zombieturtle01
24-06-2009, 10:22 PM
I will try again, also, do the ground spikes activate at random or something? Occasionally when doing a ground punch they come up, but never when desired.

TollBooth Willie
24-06-2009, 11:15 PM
You just hit the special attack key while standing with the Claws and he uses it. They can be charged too.

Remus
24-06-2009, 11:23 PM
Edit: btw I would have plowed Elizabeth Greene, even if she was a 50+ year old walking talking virus.

Oh I would plow her alright, with a ****ing tank. Followed by dropping that of shore aircraft carrier on her head.

Rizzo
24-06-2009, 11:50 PM
I will try again, also, do the ground spikes activate at random or something? Occasionally when doing a ground punch they come up, but never when desired.

If your talking about the devestator attack you need to be in critical mass. If not, then do what the banana said.

Shakermaker
25-06-2009, 12:05 AM
Yathzee says it's a tie (http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/789-Prototype).

zombieturtle01
25-06-2009, 03:14 AM
You just hit the special attack key while standing with the Claws and he uses it. They can be charged too.

Special.... key?

Rizzo
25-06-2009, 11:39 AM
You have a grab button., fast attack button, and then heavy attack button. It's the heavy attack button. Unless it's the deavastator attack. And it's 10x more awesome.

TollBooth Willie
25-06-2009, 11:56 AM
This just in: Snap Kick and SHORYUKEN are the best attacks in the game.

Edit: Yeah so I didn't read ZT's post very well. Charging the ground punch while in critical mass does the Spike Graveyard. My bad.

Danimal
25-06-2009, 12:28 PM
The AI in Prototype is pretty stupid, at times.

Like when I glide around just above people's heads, that thing is saying they're watching me, but they don't give a shit.

Then again, it probably gets harder as the game progresses.

Some of the directions in Prototype are awful.

How the hell do you sabotage viral detectors?

Like, I can't destroy them, so it tells me to fast right click, and so I do that and it's like "wrong sequence!" and then random numbers will appear at the top quickly like i am supposed to hit those, but then the alarm just goes off.

I admit the way the buttons randomly highlight themselves in time is a bit mis-leading, at first I thought it was a timing puzzle instead of "HIT THAT SHIT AS HARD AS YOU CAN"

zombieturtle01
25-06-2009, 05:15 PM
Okay, I figured out the spikes.


But I am at another weird problem. So like, I just learned how to fly a helicopter, and it wants me to [TAB] target a viral detector. As soon as I do that, it tells me to hold [TAB] and "flick" my mouse to select a different viral detector?

I've spent like, 10 full minutes trying to figure out what or how the hell it wants me to do this "flick"?
I thought I was just supposed to destroy them, but they won't break.

Rizzo
25-06-2009, 05:25 PM
Try useing the ad or arrow keys. I have the playstation version **** if i know.

zombieturtle01
26-06-2009, 07:54 PM
I just killed some Supreme Hunter thing. Dunno how far I am, but my Web of Intrigue is over half full.

Also, Greene is sexy.

FishBulb
26-06-2009, 09:51 PM
That Supreme Hunter took me forever to kill. Seems he and the L4D Tank trained at the same Super Accurate Throwing of Objects Academy.

SamuraiKenji
26-06-2009, 10:05 PM
You guys'll love the Supreme Hybrid then.

zombieturtle01
26-06-2009, 10:29 PM
That Supreme Hunter took me forever to kill. Seems he and the L4D Tank trained at the same Super Accurate Throwing of Objects Academy.

Exactly what I was thinking...

TollBooth Willie
26-06-2009, 11:11 PM
Just gotta jump around and air dash as soon as he throws.

zombieturtle01
27-06-2009, 06:34 PM
I haven't quite figured out how to kill Elizabeth Greene when she's that giant blob with fingers.

I am kind of hoping there is something more to it than throwing stuff at her... which doesn't seem to work

Remus
27-06-2009, 07:04 PM
I haven't quite figured out how to kill Elizabeth Greene when she's that giant blob with fingers.

I am kind of hoping there is something more to it than throwing stuff at her... which doesn't seem to work



Not so hot now is she? Ugh...

Ahem

To kill her you have to destroy each of the "fingers" and in the limited time after that you can do damage to the body. When the time expires the "fingers" regenerate and you have to do it all over again. Repeat all that until you get a cutscene with Mercer absorbing her. I suggest hijacking choppers and hitting her with everything you've got. If the chopper is destroyed more will appear.

This boss fight was a bitch, it seemed to last forever! And I was playing on easy!

kazsymonds
27-06-2009, 10:22 PM
Well, i went to get prototype this afternoon and it's awesome, i'm only just getting the hang of the controls etc so far.

I was worried i wouldn't like this game, but it's really good, i've only got as far as

Where you have to kill all those hunters

All good so far.

zombieturtle01
28-06-2009, 03:32 AM
Not so hot now is she? Ugh...

Ahem

To kill her you have to destroy each of the "fingers" and in the limited time after that you can do damage to the body. When the time expires the "fingers" regenerate and you have to do it all over again. Repeat all that until you get a cutscene with Mercer absorbing her. I suggest hijacking choppers and hitting her with everything you've got. If the chopper is destroyed more will appear.

This boss fight was a bitch, it seemed to last forever! And I was playing on easy!

I just went to the highest building and did a devastator spike attack as soon as the green orbs passed. Did that many times, had no clue the fingers sticking out of her head were her weakness?

Anyways, I was really disappointed when Alex killed her. She was what kept me really interested in terms of the story, and it seems like she was cut out early.


Actually I have no idea how far I am.

Also, does anyone else think the super soldier badguy looks JUST like an older version of Dane Cook??

TollBooth Willie
28-06-2009, 03:38 AM
Just body surfed someone midair after launching off the Empire State Building and surfed them down to street level. My friend and I just flipped the **** out and high fived the couch.

SamuraiKenji
28-06-2009, 03:49 AM
Another easy way of beating greene is going to the tallest building in the area, then using the Blade Air-slice. It'll near 1 hit the fingers

Krynn72
28-06-2009, 03:54 AM
I just went to the highest building and did a devastator spike attack as soon as the green orbs passed. Did that many times, had no clue the fingers sticking out of her head were her weakness?

Anyways, I was really disappointed when Alex killed her. She was what kept me really interested in terms of the story, and it seems like she was cut out early.


Actually I have no idea how far I am.

Also, does anyone else think the super soldier badguy looks JUST like an older version of Dane Cook??

You have just one leg of the story left. There are some pretty good missions coming up.

I was kinda disappointed in how whenever you consumed a plot character there was never anything really cinematic to show. It was just "hah! Gotcha!" *consume* *normal flashback thats no more interesting than the others*

swan_song1973
28-06-2009, 04:08 AM
i love how frantic prototype is, but infamous' comic panel cut scenes are nice.

Adrik_Senturu
28-06-2009, 07:11 AM
For the greene fight

The cannonball power makes the fight so easy its not even funny. The big appendages die after about 5 or 6 cannon balls, and then at that point just air blade the **** out of greene with the sword while shes stunne. rinse and repeat.

Saturos
28-06-2009, 07:23 AM
I just saw Inane-ous in action today at a local Gamestop. Graphics were awful tbh because the draw distance was terrible. Still looked like decent fun though nevertheless. Not sure if I saw the whole story, but it it looked like all you could do was blow up cars and fry pedestrians with electricity. Looked like a Crackdown wannabe.

TollBooth Willie
28-06-2009, 11:40 AM
Found all the WOI targets.










Yeah I'm disappointed, but what the hey at least now I'm free to compare memories and dig out false/misleading information from others without worrying about undiscovered ones that may be related to the one I'm doing.

SamuraiKenji
28-06-2009, 05:54 PM
I think that's what they meant you to do. Instead of giving it to you, making you search for it like Alex had to. Or something.

zombieturtle01
29-06-2009, 06:33 PM
The story is much harder to follow than I anticipated.

I just consumed a guy in a tank, and pretended to be him, while the one armed General guy shoots me in the head, then I grab him........ and
Well, something about him chopping off his infected arm at Idaho?

Anyways, then the super soldier guy grabs you and turns into a mutant out of nowhere.
I am not confused about the fact that he had his own agenda or anything..... but I am confused because... weren't all the face to face covos between him and Alex when he still had his helmet on, and they were on top of that roof, supposed to be future tense?

I suppose I am also confused why super soldier dude bothered to have long convos with Alex on top of a roof for the majority of the game like two buddies having a beer.

Warped
29-06-2009, 07:52 PM
I just got Prototype and it is actually full of people and things to smash. its more chaotic and fun than inFamous so far and the sense of speed is really nice. I love games that make you feel all badass but inFamous made me feel like a weakling and i'd die randomly a lot in that game.

AHA-Lambda
29-06-2009, 08:09 PM
yeah the story is not told that well.

Basically 90% of the game is a flashback leading to the 2 guys talking on the roof and then the last boss encounter occurs.

Also at some point can't remember when it showed you it implied that the supreme hunter consumed cross

only things i'm confused about are:

why didn't alex just disarm the bomb? He consumed general randall who had the nuclear codes after all. Also the WOI flashbacks implied the parasite you were injected with earlier was really deadly enemy, was this supposed to be the supreme hunter?? I'm not sure.

Adrik_Senturu
29-06-2009, 08:44 PM
The story is much harder to follow than I anticipated.

I just consumed a guy in a tank, and pretended to be him, while the one armed General guy shoots me in the head, then I grab him........ and
Well, something about him chopping off his infected arm at Idaho?

Anyways, then the super soldier guy grabs you and turns into a mutant out of nowhere.
I am not confused about the fact that he had his own agenda or anything..... but I am confused because... weren't all the face to face covos between him and Alex when he still had his helmet on, and they were on top of that roof, supposed to be future tense?

I suppose I am also confused why super soldier dude bothered to have long convos with Alex on top of a roof for the majority of the game like two buddies having a beer.


Well

Theres a scene that implies that Cross was consumed by the Supreme Hunter. Now Cross was actually helping you before this, so when the Supreme Hunter consumed him, it used that to its advantage as a way to get closer to Alex so it could consume him and complete itself. But you kick its ass so its all good.

zombieturtle01
29-06-2009, 11:20 PM
Well

Theres a scene that implies that Cross was consumed by the Supreme Hunter. Now Cross was actually helping you before this, so when the Supreme Hunter consumed him, it used that to its advantage as a way to get closer to Alex so it could consume him and complete itself. But you kick its ass so its all good.

Do you recall which scene it was that implied that?

AHA-Lambda
29-06-2009, 11:34 PM
Now Cross was actually helping you before this

Was he? I don't remember that :|

TollBooth Willie
29-06-2009, 11:41 PM
Do you recall which scene it was that implied that?When they are pulling out of Manhattan, there's a scene with Cross and his team holding out against infected coming over a fence and at one point it shows through their eyes and one specifically fixed on Cross.

zombieturtle01
30-06-2009, 12:42 AM
This is one of those games that I find so frustratingly hard to the point where you don't have fun at times.

This last boss is a bitch, and his tendril attack is a load of BS since it's a one hit kill.
And don't forget the usual heat seeking slabs of concrete.

AHA-Lambda
30-06-2009, 01:01 AM
yaeh game can be annoying at times, and I also thought the last boss was a ***** :|

zombieturtle01
30-06-2009, 07:10 AM
I finally beat that lame ass boss...

I think what's really disappointing is, at the end they almost imply that you can RID the city of the infection and the war, with the whole "my job ain't finished yet", but of course you cannot.

I think it would have been a really fun to allow the player to destroy hives and bases, slowly dwindling down the infected and military men.

Schall
30-06-2009, 08:34 AM
Prototype

Warped
30-06-2009, 08:43 AM
OMG, the more I play Prototype the more fun it is. the more I played inFamous the more boring it became.

Remus
30-06-2009, 10:14 AM
This is one of those games that I find so frustratingly hard to the point where you don't have fun at times.

This last boss is a bitch, and his tendril attack is a load of BS since it's a one hit kill.
And don't forget the usual heat seeking slabs of concrete.

BTW on what difficulty are you playing ZT? Like I mentioned before I played on easy and it still got quite hard and annoying at times.

From the regular enemies, I think the most annoying are those fat ass super soldiers running around giving you bear hugs. With the mother****ing counterattack button changing every time. They can even take 3-4 tank rounds before finally dying, wtf?

Nibwoddle
30-06-2009, 04:14 PM
I finally beat that lame ass boss...

I think what's really disappointing is, at the end they almost imply that you can RID the city of the infection and the war, with the whole "my job ain't finished yet", but of course you cannot.

I think it would have been a really fun to allow the player to destroy hives and bases, slowly dwindling down the infected and military men.

It's a trilogy.

zombieturtle01
30-06-2009, 05:14 PM
Did they ever mention anything about the virus not affecting animals?
I remember a backflash of a pigeon with a big infected tumor shaking on the ground. Point is, if it can infect animals, you'd think it would have infected all those crows, and they could just fly around the world.

BTW on what difficulty are you playing ZT?

Normal, killing the final boss was a lot of luck.

Oh, it's neat you can find Karen Parker...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjT8Cjm55pk

Warped
30-06-2009, 05:19 PM
Did they ever mention anything about the virus not affecting animals?
I remember a backflash of a pigeon with a big infected tumor shaking on the ground. Point is, if it can infect animals, you'd think it would have infected all those crows, and they could just fly around the world.



Normal, killing the final boss was a lot of luck.

most games nowadays even on a select difficulty option will still make it easier to kill the boss at some point. one game that did not have that however was Uncharted and I loved the game but hated the cheap ass ending that had a harder than usual boss fight and climatic ending

mechanicallizard
02-07-2009, 12:11 PM
i just got this yesterday afternoon, only completed the first 3-4 missions, but holy shit this game is awesome.

Warped
11-07-2009, 01:44 AM
Ugh I'm really hating Prototype right now. its hard as **** on Normal setting and I've died like 300 times or close to it. not fun at all. every other game out there has some sort of scalable difficulty even under a specific difficulty setting but this game is more frustrating than fun. i'm thinking both Prototype and inFamous were both bad decisions and I'm getting sick of this open world doo doo i've been playing.

TollBooth Willie
11-07-2009, 06:37 AM
Stop being a pussy and suck it up.

Krynn72
11-07-2009, 07:10 AM
I only died like 10 times the whole time on normal. You suck.

Oh, it's neat you can find Karen Parker...

Yeah, but its not neat that NOTHING ****ING HAPPENS AND THERES NO POINT TO IT AT ALL. WHAT THE ****. Its like they forgot to put in the second half of that cutscene where you actually learn something about the plot or something.

13LACKBISHOP
11-07-2009, 06:54 PM
Oh by the way I just got prototype. I will be blunt. Its crap.If you like attention to detail then prototype is not for you.

Crappy things about prototype-

Small map.

Lacking in the enemies department.

That stuff about destroying hives and letting the military take over and vice versa was BS since it made no difference to anything whatsoever.Destroy a base and it comes back 2 seconds later.

You cant even hijack cars nor do you take damage from a truck doing 50.

Same character models over and over.

Entire streets full of taxis,

There are like 3 vehicles to hijack(so far so don't quote me)- APC,tank,heli. No Humvee. Cant hijack armored trucks.

The infiltration is to basic and easy(No depth). Its like they didn't even try.

Not really any depth to fighting(combat is a joke, just consume,throw,consume ect) .

Pointless side quests like get to the top of a building as fast as possible.

Annoying purple orbs all over the city. Random blue orbs all over the city.

A base consists of one building.

Web of intrigues reveal stuff you already know(aka-NOTHING).

Have to get the map up every 2 seconds because of crappy mini map.

Bad soundtrack(think what unreal would have been like without the music).

So far I have got 4 weapons. Assault rifle, Grenade launcher, Rocket launcher and MG=BORING. Guns,vehicles and infiltration were like one of the main things that separated prototype from games like the hulk ultimate destruction yet they screwed that up. What the hell!

I just cannot understand why people like this game.

Stigmata
11-07-2009, 07:06 PM
Oh by the way I just got prototype. I will be blunt. Its crap.If you like attention to detail then prototype is not for you.

Crappy things about prototype-

Small map.

Lacking in the enemies department.

That stuff about destroying hives and letting the military take over and vice versa was BS since it made no difference to anything whatsoever.Destroy a base and it comes back 2 seconds later.

You cant even hijack cars nor do you take damage from a truck doing 50.

Same character models over and over.

Entire streets full of taxis,

There are like 3 vehicles to hijack(so far so don't quote me)- APC,tank,heli. No Humvee. Cant hijack armored trucks.

The infiltration is to basic and easy(No depth). Its like they didn't even try.

Not really any depth to fighting(combat is a joke, just consume,throw,consume ect) .

Pointless side quests like get to the top of a building as fast as possible.

Annoying purple orbs all over the city. Random blue orbs all over the city.

A base consists of one building.

Web of intrigues reveal stuff you already know(aka-NOTHING).

Have to get the map up every 2 seconds because of crappy mini map.

Bad soundtrack(think what unreal would have been like without the music).

So far I have got 4 weapons. Assault rifle, Grenade launcher, Rocket launcher and MG=BORING. Guns,vehicles and infiltration were like one of the main things that separated prototype from games like the hulk ultimate destruction yet they screwed that up. What the hell!

I just cannot understand why people like this game.I think the people who enjoy it are the people who know that Prototype isn't GTA IV.

Krynn72
11-07-2009, 07:06 PM
So basically you're pissed because its not GTA?

You're not ****ing supposed to go around hijacking shit or fighting with guns you twit. You're not even playing the game right. Consume and throw? Are you stupid? Use your dozens of other powers. Its like you're trying to play the game wrong just so you can hate it.


EDIT: Hell yeah Stig, Highfive!

kazsymonds
11-07-2009, 07:15 PM
The thing that pisses me off is that i'm not slavic and i cannot call my twat of a cousin!

Stigmata
11-07-2009, 07:30 PM
Hell yeah Stig, Highfive!
/highfive krynn baby

13LACKBISHOP
11-07-2009, 07:34 PM
I think the people who enjoy it are the people who know that Prototype isn't GTA IV.

I don't even like the GTA games.

13LACKBISHOP
11-07-2009, 07:45 PM
So basically you're pissed because its not GTA?

You're not ****ing supposed to go around hijacking shit or fighting with guns you twit. You're not even playing the game right. Consume and throw? Are you stupid? Use your dozens of other powers. Its like you're trying to play the game wrong just so you can hate it.


EDIT: Hell yeah Stig, Highfive!

Those are game play options. I never said thats the only way to play it they are just things that are flawed with the game. I do use my other powers just that the consume throw just achieves the same effect(apart from tanks and hunters but they are no problem anyway). It does not matter what I pick and that is a problem. And you are supposed to hijack vehicles or shoot things thats why they put it in. There is no right or wrong way to play prototype. Also what has this got to do with the lack of detail or the fact it is repetitive. I am fighting the same things over and over again no matter what powers I use. It is not a bad game just because of the way I play it. I did not even play it for the tanks and guns I found the powers way cooler but you lot seem to just jump to conclusions.

Remus
11-07-2009, 07:53 PM
My 2 major complaints with this game are:

1) It's too hard and annoying even on easy.
2) Too many combos that you get mixed up in them. It's happened so many times that I wanted to do a critical mass move and the stupid character just did the primary attack, until he got hit so many times that he was no longer in critical mass...:rolleyes:

Stigmata
11-07-2009, 07:54 PM
Those are game play options. I never said thats the only way to play it they are just things that are flawed with the game. I do use my other powers just that the consume throw just achieves the same effect(apart from tanks and hunters but they are no problem anyway). It does not matter what I pick and that is a problem. And you are supposed to hijack vehicles or shoot things thats why they put it in. There is no right or wrong way to play prototype. Also what has this got to do with the lack of detail or the fact it is repetitive. I am fighting the same things over and over again no matter what powers I use. It is not a bad game just because of the way I play it. I did not even play it for the tanks and guns I found the powers way cooler but you lot seem to just jump to conclusions.
Yeah but you're complaining about things without even bothering to look at it from a positive perspective. Repetitive faces? Keeps the framerate high so you can kill hundreds, not dozens, of civilians at a time (and if you're killing that many that fast, why are you even trying to pay attention to their facial structure?). You can't hijack jeeps? Good, now you won't accidentally hijack a weaponless moving target that will explode after several machiengun bursts when you meant to hijack a heavily armored moving cannon that can crush cars. No "real depth" to the combat? Learn a few aerial combos, and be glad Prototype's gameplay doesn't involve the equivalent of an hour-long 3D match of Street Fighter IV against dozens of helicopters and superfast genetic experiments. You don't take damage from a truck doing 50? Good, because your character has super powers, and can run up the side of a building while carrying a car, so I'd be pretty pissed if a car doing 50 could stun him.

13LACKBISHOP
11-07-2009, 08:08 PM
Yeah but you're complaining about things without even bothering to look at it from a positive perspective. Repetitive faces? Keeps the framerate high so you can kill hundreds, not dozens, of civilians at a time (and if you're killing that many that fast, why are you even trying to pay attention to their facial structure?). You can't hijack jeeps? Good, now you won't accidentally hijack a weaponless moving target that will explode after several machiengun bursts when you meant to hijack a heavily armored moving cannon that can crush cars. No "real depth" to the combat? Learn a few aerial combos, and be glad Prototype's gameplay doesn't involve the equivalent of an hour-long 3D match of Street Fighter IV against dozens of helicopters and superfast genetic experiments. You don't take damage from a truck doing 50? Good, because your character has super powers, and can run up the side of a building while carrying a car, so I'd be pretty pissed if a car doing 50 could stun him.

I don't think you will accidentally hijack the wrong vehicle considering I can consume one person in an entire mob of people with ease. Jeeps might not be ideal but if the military can ride in them I want to ride in them because it is FUN but they did not put it in. I say- why not?

Killing civilians gets old after 2 seconds and later on why would you be still killing them. You don't even get any xp and they don't fight back? I am to busy killing mutants and the military.

As for the combos. Why? I kill things in like 2 seconds. It WOULD have depth if the enemies were tough enough to survive at least 2 seconds.

As for the not being able to take damage from a truck.I never meant for it to "stun" him but at least do SOME damage. The dude can take take damage from bullets. I am also aware that he has superpowers but he is not immortal.

MorganFreeman911
11-07-2009, 08:13 PM
This game is about being flashy, cool, and making you feel all powerful, it's not about efficiency. He doesn't take damage from trucks and other things is because he's NOT HUMAN (technically). The combos are used to kill A LOT of enemies with a lot of flair. There's this one whipfist combo that allows you to do a sweep move and wipe out a bunch of enemies. Sure the graphics aren't great, but if they were great, it would crawl on an xbox 360, and the PCs that it's built for (not huge supercomputers, every day gaming PCs)

Remus
11-07-2009, 08:13 PM
As It WOULD have depth if the enemies were tough enough to survive at least 2 seconds.

Are we playing the same game? Hunters and super soldiers for example are resilient and annoying bastards.

13LACKBISHOP
11-07-2009, 08:31 PM
Are we playing the same game? Hunters and super soldiers for example are resilient and annoying bastards.

I did not mean it like that. What I meant was is that they die to quickly and easily. Hunters for example don't take 2 seconds but once you get used to them they are as easy as pie. Combos just do not make things any easier. You are unbeatable if you have a few civilians next to you. They are like health packs with legs.

13LACKBISHOP
11-07-2009, 08:37 PM
This game is about being flashy, cool, and making you feel all powerful, it's not about efficiency. He doesn't take damage from trucks and other things is because he's NOT HUMAN (technically). The combos are used to kill A LOT of enemies with a lot of flair. There's this one whipfist combo that allows you to do a sweep move and wipe out a bunch of enemies. Sure the graphics aren't great, but if they were great, it would crawl on an xbox 360, and the PCs that it's built for (not huge supercomputers, every day gaming PCs)


I understand you point about being flashy and cool and I agree but it must at least make the player try to be good at the game. You don't even need to TRY to be good at prototype. Without any effort involved, it removes the feeling of satisfaction you get from the game. I would try it on hard but then I would have to complete the game and I would rather not.

I don't really bother to much about graphics.

Stigmata
11-07-2009, 08:47 PM
I understand you point about being flashy and cool and I agree but it must at least make the player try to be good at the game. You don't even need to TRY to be good at prototype. Without any effort involved, it removes the feeling of satisfaction you get from the game. I would try it on hard but then I would have to complete the game and I would rather not.

I don't really bother to much about graphics.
So essentially, you won't even begin to play through it again on hard and possibly have more fun because you've already played it through before on a significantly less-fun setting.

Acepilotf14
11-07-2009, 08:57 PM
im 12 and whats going on in this thread

13LACKBISHOP
11-07-2009, 10:46 PM
So essentially, you won't even begin to play through it again on hard and possibly have more fun because you've already played it through before on a significantly less-fun setting.

Its repetitive enough as it is. I am not playing through that again. Also- possibly have more fun

Krynn72
12-07-2009, 12:15 AM
Its only repetitive because you're allowing it to be. Change up your fighting style, do things differently. I honestly can't see how it is repetitive if there are dozens of ways to meet your objectives. To destroy a base for example, you could hijack a helicopter and bombard it with missiles while dogfighting other helicopters and dodging missiles form the ground. Or you could sneak in with a disguise and and walk up to the detectors and deactivate them, then consume a field commander and call in artillery strikes on the base, hop in a tank or snag someones missile launcher and continue to blow the **** out of it. Or you could just jump in there, whip out your sword and body armor powers and tear the place to hell. Or you could hijack a tank from down the street and smash through the walls, jump out with your shield up and whipfist and pakour all over the place while cutting people in half and sniping down helocopters with your whipfist.

You got to be kidding me if you can't find some kind of combination of all those things that is new and interesting.

Warped
12-07-2009, 03:57 AM
Oh by the way I just got prototype. I will be blunt. Its crap.If you like attention to detail then prototype is not for you.

Crappy things about prototype-

Small map.

Lacking in the enemies department.

That stuff about destroying hives and letting the military take over and vice versa was BS since it made no difference to anything whatsoever.Destroy a base and it comes back 2 seconds later.

You cant even hijack cars nor do you take damage from a truck doing 50.

Same character models over and over.

Entire streets full of taxis,

There are like 3 vehicles to hijack(so far so don't quote me)- APC,tank,heli. No Humvee. Cant hijack armored trucks.

The infiltration is to basic and easy(No depth). Its like they didn't even try.

Not really any depth to fighting(combat is a joke, just consume,throw,consume ect) .

Pointless side quests like get to the top of a building as fast as possible.

Annoying purple orbs all over the city. Random blue orbs all over the city.

A base consists of one building.

Web of intrigues reveal stuff you already know(aka-NOTHING).

Have to get the map up every 2 seconds because of crappy mini map.

Bad soundtrack(think what unreal would have been like without the music).

So far I have got 4 weapons. Assault rifle, Grenade launcher, Rocket launcher and MG=BORING. Guns,vehicles and infiltration were like one of the main things that separated prototype from games like the hulk ultimate destruction yet they screwed that up. What the hell!

I just cannot understand why people like this game.

you nailed it right on the head. i just don't get the purpose of the game. its really incoherent and stupid. smash this hunter, absorb this person. don't get me wrong the opening level was sweet but I'm just not digging the game overall. I think I made a big mistake with buying this one. overhyped and repetitive it is. and when i pick up weapons they are crap and i'll admit i suck at games when i have to adapt to the enemy type especially when they all look the fuking same! i don't know if i have the stomach to finish this boring game

Krynn72
12-07-2009, 05:59 AM
God damn it stop using guns!

Warped
12-07-2009, 06:27 AM
God damn it stop using guns!

i don't even know why they're in the game...and i hardly use them.

nurizeko
12-07-2009, 02:11 PM
I just cannot understand why people like this game.

Simple. Some of us aren't boring little nerds with a lemon up our arsehole.

The problem isn't the game. Its you. Try some outdoor hobbies, maybe a job and who knows, maybe you'll find the simple leisure of a game return like when you were a kid and your mum still thought you might achieve something with your life.




No seriously though, your just being petty and basically looking for reasons to dislike this game. If you don't like it then fine, STFU and take your opinion to the internet because no-one cares. Oh wait...

Point is man the game isn't meant to be the gaming equivalent of the Lord of the Rings trilogy or Schindlers list or something, its meant to be pure brain-dead destructive fun. its a B-movie in 2009 game format.

Play it, do the story at your own pace, do the side missions you want to do, do the web of intrigue targets or don't, but FFS stop looking for problems like the little bitch you seem to be.

Samon
12-07-2009, 03:11 PM
Point is man the game isn't meant to be the gaming equivalent of the Lord of the Rings trilogy or Schindlers list or something, its meant to be pure brain-dead destructive fun. its a B-movie in 2009 game format.

Does this abstain it from criticism? Simply because it is supposed to be 'brain-dead destructive fun' (the absence of creativity and sophistication), and catered toward those that will clap their hands at its explosive tendencies and evoke the use of their only known adjective "awesome!" to describe it, does not mean it disqualifies itself from the firing range. Quite the contrary. I repudiate the very suggestion of it. Indeed, what a stupid statement, Nurizeko. I will not embrace or accept the kind of garbage Prototype represents, when there is a plethora of games that transcend its limited, primitive boundaries and achieve ingenuity and innovation simply in their conception - to say nothing of what they accomplish in design and nature. You are to be pitied for your inability to repudiate yourself from the symptoms of a lack of imagination. It is not okay for Prototype to be unreservedly shit. No, it's not. Prototype is mainstream trash, and I have no qualms tattooing 'moron' across the forehead of those who fellate it for its simple nature and explosive tendencies. Your reasons for justifying its existence are ridiculous, and you are representitive of the brainless clot who would indeed rush to its aid, and denounce its attackers as being guilty of thinking too much.

Simple. Some of us aren't boring little nerds with a lemon up our arsehole.

Oh, right, well - there it is. God forbid the rest of us have standards.

Sparta
12-07-2009, 03:33 PM
Simple. Some of us aren't boring little nerds with a lemon up our arsehole.


This is pretty funny coming from you, considering the majority of your opinions on games (or pretty much anything from what I've read on here) simply boil down to "meh". However, I see your point but I also agree with Samon on this. Simply because something is aimed towards the lowest common denominator doesn't mean it's immune to criticism.

But that's just what I think. I'm a firm believer in trying to obtain perfection in whatever you do. There's no excuse for making anything subpar. Be it music, writing, film, games, work, anything. From the amount of time I've spent playing Prototype, it reminds me of Assassin's Creed. There's potential but it's mostly squandered

Nibwoddle
12-07-2009, 03:40 PM
Oh, will you all go back to effing tea drinking and ridiculously deep plotlines. Prototype isn't a game for all of that, and by no means is it, as you say quite boldly, mainstream shit. I understand it doesn't go without its flaws, of which there are many, but I haven't seen it appeal to anyone I'd classify as mainstream, and really, think about the occasional time you'd like to be a guy who can turn into anything. Think about the "internet - awesome" moments the game provides. Karate kicking helicopters. Slicing people vertically. Running through a crowd of people with your arm as a massive blade. Running up a skyscraper as an old man. What the hell else do you want from a game? Were videogames not designed for the intention of having fun? Prototype delivers fun.

Play HL2, Zelda, Final Fantasy, any of that if you're playing games to have a story shoved down your throat, but Prototype delivers where games should.

Pi Mu Rho
12-07-2009, 03:54 PM
Words.

Have you played it?

Remus
12-07-2009, 04:24 PM
Have you played it?

I LOL'd

Sparta
12-07-2009, 04:49 PM
Think about the "internet - awesome" moments the game provides. Karate kicking helicopters. Slicing people vertically. Running through a crowd of people with your arm as a massive blade. Running up a skyscraper as an old man. What the hell else do you want from a game? Were videogames not designed for the intention of having fun? Prototype delivers fun.

I probably should have clarified more exactly how much I agree with Samon. I think the game's a lot of fun. It's visceral, energetic, ridiculous and pretty fun for the first few hours as you run and flip up buildings while consuming people, but it gets repetitive and there are segments that are really frustrating because of poor mission or enemy design. I don't think it's a shit game. That's bullocks.

But again, appealing to the lowest common denominator doesn't excuse criticism.

What you're saying is like saying that because Transformers 2 has tons of hot chicks and robots fighting in it, it's ok that it's a steaming pile of cinematic shit. As long as there's tits and robots fighting.

Being critical is a necessary evil. Being over-critical though is just being ****in annoying

nurizeko
12-07-2009, 05:02 PM
wordz


There's standards and then there's, well, you. Suffice to say your parting shot is meaningless, everyone holds a set of standards and criteria by which they measure things, having them is not a security pass to proclaim something good or bad at your own flimsy whims.

Sorry Samon, but Pi is spot on, all you've done is spout meaningless words in attempt to support your grouchy ass spiked turd of an opinion.

My position is that the game isn't meant to be the Cannes film festival collective self-congratulating butt-**** of the year your trying to judge it as. You claim you have standards. I reject your position as fundamentally flawed because Prototype was never once designed and developed to meet any "high" standards you deem yourself to have.

Standards simply do not come into play here. Either you play the game and enjoy it, or you don't, in which case coming onto a forum where you can safely spew your cerebral diarrhoea in an attempt to trash a game by standards it has never attempted to meet is well, a waste of your time (though you may have far too much of it to waste) but most importantly a waste of everyone else's.

You are to be pitied for your inability to repudiate yourself from the symptoms of a lack of imagination.

The irony is staggering considering I have no problem with the fact that the stock civilian models are somewhat repetitive, hence ruining immersion.

Protip: Play the game before you bitch.

Protip2: Resorting to throwing words in a moderate wall of text (feel free to separate that out a little) when essentially all your saying is "**** you, I'm right and your wrong" doesn't make you come across as big nor clever, merely a sign that your position is about as shaky as a 90 year old hip replacement patient.

I can fully accept the game has its flaws, but at least I stop short of bemoaning its playerbase as the inferior unenlightened filth of humanity that you come across as making them out as.

How utterly arrogant of you.

Since we are on the topic of standards how about you develop some social ones and learn to keep your horrid black putrid attitude to other people to yourself.

I see your point but I also agree with Samon on this. Simply because something is aimed towards the lowest common denominator doesn't mean it's immune to criticism.

Criticism yes. But criticise it for what it is, not what nerdraging "high standards" they want to apply to it. If you don't like it, fine, leave it, say you don't like it, but slamming it for not meeting criteria and supporting features you should only expect in high budget big release games is just pointless net-whinge.

Then again, I am posting this so, touche.:cheers:

Samon
12-07-2009, 05:07 PM
There's standards and then there's, well, you. Suffice to say your parting shot is meaningless, everyone holds a set of standards and criteria by which they measure things, having them is not a security pass to proclaim something good or bad at your own flimsy whims.

May I quote Ebert:

Those who think "Transformers" is a great or even a good film are, may I tactfully suggest, not sufficiently evolved. Film by film, I hope they climb a personal ladder into the realm of better films, until their standards improve. Those people contain multitudes. They deserve films that refresh the parts others do not reach. They don't need to spend a lifetime with the water only up to their toes.


My position is that the game isn't meant to be the Cannes film festival collective self-congratulating butt-**** of the year your trying to judge it as. You claim you have standards. I reject your position as fundamentally flawed because Prototype was never once designed and developed to meet any "high" standards you deem yourself to have.

Standards simply do not come into play here. Either you play the game and enjoy it, or you don't, in which case coming onto a forum where you can safely spew your cerebral diarrhoea in an attempt to trash a game by standards it has never attempted to meet is well, a waste of your time (though you may have far too much of it to waste) but most importantly a waste of everyone else's.

Your position is ludicrous. Everything has a responsibility to be as good as it can be; there can truly be no excuse for aiming for anything less, and you are claiming Prototype did just that.


I can fully accept the game has its flaws, but at least I stop short of bemoaning its playerbase as the inferior unenlightened filth of humanity that you come across as making them out as.

Oh, they're not?

Since we are on the topic of standards how about you develop some social ones and learn to keep your horrid black putrid attitude to other people to yourself.

Simple. Some of us aren't boring little nerds with a lemon up our arsehole.

No seriously though, your just being petty and basically looking for reasons to dislike this game. If you don't like it then fine, STFU and take your opinion to the internet because no-one cares. Oh wait...

Play it, do the story at your own pace, do the side missions you want to do, do the web of intrigue targets or don't, but FFS stop looking for problems like the little bitch you seem to be.

Oh, natch.

Play HL2, Zelda, Final Fantasy, any of that if you're playing games to have a story shoved down your throat, but Prototype delivers where games should.

Truly a nonsensical statement of no real value. Your assumptions are moot. I do not think anyone stated its problems as being attributed to storyline. It is your own error of judgement, and it is to completely misunderstand the argument. With that, go away.

Have you played it?

I've seen it in action, having both watched several gameplay trailers and my friend play it on his 360. I think that should be sufficient for anyone to gather what Prototype is, and what it stands for.

Sparta
12-07-2009, 05:14 PM
Criticism yes. But criticise it for what it is, not what nerdraging "high standards" they want to apply to it. If you don't like it, fine, leave it, say you don't like it, but slamming it for not meeting criteria and supporting features you should only expect in high budget big release games is just pointless net-whinge.

Definitely. It's not far to criticise something for what it's not trying to do.

I personally think that for what Prototype tries to do, it could (and should) do a lot better.

Nibwoddle
12-07-2009, 05:21 PM
I probably should have clarified more exactly how much I agree with Samon. I think the game's a lot of fun. It's visceral, energetic, ridiculous and pretty fun for the first few hours as you run and flip up buildings while consuming people, but it gets repetitive and there are segments that are really frustrating because of poor mission or enemy design. I don't think it's a shit game. That's bullocks.

But again, appealing to the lowest common denominator doesn't excuse criticism.

What you're saying is like saying that because Transformers 2 has tons of hot chicks and robots fighting in it, it's ok that it's a steaming pile of cinematic shit. As long as there's tits and robots fighting.

Being critical is a necessary evil. Being over-critical though is just being ****in annoying

Okay, fine, I have to let you win there. Disregard what I just said. On second thought I actually found Prototype's plot to be really good, come to think of it. I was merely getting a bit pissed off at Samon's annoyingly overcomplicated tripe.

I don't think this argument is really going to go anywhere. I think we can all agree that Prototype has flaws which can be fixed or improved in the second one, but whether or not we take these flaws into account determines whether or not we like the game.

EDIT

Okay, to clarify, I don't really care if I can "stealth" consume people as someone walks past. I don't really care that the military disregards a soldier running at 100mph. I don't really care that you see the same person thirty times on one block. I don't care if there's only about 5 different enemies. If you do care, it's a completely different game. All that really matters to me is that I enjoy the story and can destroy tanks by elbowing them.

Sparta
12-07-2009, 05:26 PM
I don't think this argument is really going to go anywhere. I think we can all agree that Prototype has flaws which can be fixed or improved in the second one, but whether or not we take these flaws into account determines whether or not we like the game.

Yeah it looks that way. I think i've already said this in the thread but just to reiterate, rent the games first before you buy them.

I usually check out metacritic before buying games anyway. That helps a lot.

zombieturtle01
12-07-2009, 05:30 PM
Anyways, about the game.

I was confused on a reoccurring flashback you had when you would consume people.

It would show a boy with his family at the beach with his hands in the water, but he was drowning a small animal.
Another scene showed the boy standing next to a dead dog.

At some point the soldier in the flashback says like "exhibits psychopathic behavior blah blah blah"

Was that boy supposed to be Alex Mercer, Black Watch Soldiers as children, or someone they experimented on in Idaho?

Stigmata
12-07-2009, 08:40 PM
Your position is ludicrous. Everything has a responsibility to be as good as it can be; there can truly be no excuse for aiming for anything less, and you are claiming Prototype did just that.

I've seen it in action, having both watched several gameplay trailers and my friend play it on his 360. I think that should be sufficient for anyone to gather what Prototype is, and what it stands for.
You should really just try playing Prototype without pretending that it "should" be something it's not, because this is the critical flaw in your position. Everything you've said is academically correct, but like any good essay, the playing of games also involves an aspect of emotionality and human response. In Prototype's case, this would involve actually playing the game before you plant a big rubber "SHIT" stamp all over it.

KagePrototype
12-07-2009, 09:50 PM
my standards, my precious standards

[edit] the npcs have blurry faces and the main character's voice actor isn't very good, **** this game

[edit 2] when I flawlessly hijacked that helicopter with my whiparm, crashed it into a tank and surfed some dude's body down the street, I noticied that the buildings all have muddy textures. If only I was there during development to point this obvious discrepancy out, then this game would have been perfect and I would have been hailed as a genius. Sadly, I must discard it into the street like some wet cloth, for my standardshdahjsdjafd

Krynn72
12-07-2009, 10:35 PM
Your position is ludicrous. Everything has a responsibility to be as good as it can be; there can truly be no excuse for aiming for anything less, and you are claiming Prototype did just that.

Define good. The developers were aiming to make a fun game. Thats all. They weren't aiming to make a game with a story that would be hailed as being even better than the second coming of Christ. They weren't aiming to make the most aesthetically beautiful game ever created. No. They were aiming to make a game where you could have fun by simply causing mayhem as a supernatural shapeshifter. What plot there is to be had is simply there to explain the scenario and allow players to suspend disbelief only enough to enjoy the game but without hindering the action.

Frankly your "standards" are starting to irritate me. I've begun to think that perhaps you have confused the idea of standards with the idea of taste. It seems that a lot of movies or games that you claim to not meet your standards, simply do not appeal to your taste. Granted, standards are part of what makes up one's taste, but I am beginning to think that you have completely confused the two, to the point where you can only possibly comprehend works as to be aspiring to be in your taste.


We're still friends right? <3

Warped
13-07-2009, 12:51 AM
Define good. The developers were aiming to make a fun game. Thats all. They weren't aiming to make a game with a story that would be hailed as being even better than the second coming of Christ. They weren't aiming to make the most aesthetically beautiful game ever created. No. They were aiming to make a game where you could have fun by simply causing mayhem as a supernatural shapeshifter. What plot there is to be had is simply there to explain the scenario and allow players to suspend disbelief only enough to enjoy the game but without hindering the action.


it sounds to me like they made a half assed game really quick. just a big money maker. if you look in most stores the game dropped to $40 all ready and thats a sign it wasn't a big hit or people stopped buying it

stemot
13-07-2009, 01:59 AM
a sign it wasn't a big hit or people stopped buying it

It charted rather well I believe.

Krynn72
13-07-2009, 03:09 AM
it sounds to me like they made a half assed game really quick. just a big money maker. if you look in most stores the game dropped to $40 all ready and thats a sign it wasn't a big hit or people stopped buying it

Its still 50-60 dollars in every store i have checked. And even if that were the case, it doesnt make any kind of statement about the game.

Its still sold 600,000 copies so far anyways.

Remus
13-07-2009, 03:22 AM
it sounds to me like they made a half assed game really quick. just a big money maker.

I see, so in your book a game that focuses on fun and not fancy graphics and story is half assed? Pardon me while I go laugh my guts out.
High quality graphics were sacrificed so you could have hundreds of enemies on screen with explosions and stuff flying all over the place. I remember a few years ago when Doom 3 was just released, people were complaining why did Id sacrifice enemy count for graphics. You can't have it both ways, not yet anyway. It seems whatever you do you can't please everyone.

TollBooth Willie
13-07-2009, 04:02 AM
I think he and Alan would make good buddies.