Street Fighter 4!

[Warbie]

Let's hype it up ...

http://www.gamed.nl/messages/90405.jpg

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http://www.gamed.nl/messages/90413.jpg

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http://www.gamed.nl/view/50309

(As you can see, Gen and Cammy are confirmed :))

Suddenly it's 1991 and i'm a little kid trying to squeeze through the crowd of people surrounding the SF2 machine at my local arcade - standing on tiptoes to get a brief glimpse and realising that this was something very special :bounce:

Gentlemen, arcade sticks at the ready. FIGHT!

[B_MAN]

sweeeet
had a chance to play one match at a local arcade that imported the game or something
pretty solid
can't wait for the full version on console

[VictimOfScience]

can't wait for the full version on console
Me neither. May have to import depending on the wait for a US release. I know their stories anyway! :E

[Darkangel]

I never really got the appeal of fighting games...

[Warbie]

The purest expression, the glory, the test of skill. 2 men enter, one man leave - you are obviously cut from a poorer cloth ...

[rAdIOhEaD]

February in japan, I hope is the same for us...

[Vegeta897]

The rendering style is interesting, I like it.

[Bob_Marley]

I may finally have a reason to buy a current generation console. The horror.

[B_MAN]

the screens don't do it justice
it really looks sharp in motion+in person

[Adrik_Senturu]

I never really got the appeal of fighting games...

Never really got the appeal of [insert a genre that other people like]

And yeah can't wait for a console release on this.

[Darkside55]

All the responses saying, "I can't wait for a console release on this," YOU are what killed arcades. You lazy gamers who want to just sit at home and play a fighting game...probably online, instead of going out to the arcade and dumping in your quarters.

Well screw you, man.

I can't wait for an ARCADE release on this. Lazy slobs. Enjoy your online.

[Warbie]

I'm all for the return of the arcade - so much has been lost since attendances began to dwindle - but they're just too damn expensive these days!

[Adrik_Senturu]

All the responses saying, "I can't wait for a console release on this," YOU are what killed arcades. You lazy gamers who want to just sit at home and play a fighting game...probably online, instead of going out to the arcade and dumping in your quarters.

Well screw you, man.

I can't wait for an ARCADE release on this. Lazy slobs. Enjoy your online.

Im actually heading down to china town some time because I hear an arcade there is getting the game in, but yeah don't know about your area, but the only arcades near me are in the city, and well thats expensive to do often D:

[B_MAN]

All the responses saying, "I can't wait for a console release on this," YOU are what killed arcades. You lazy gamers who want to just sit at home and play a fighting game...probably online, instead of going out to the arcade and dumping in your quarters.

Well screw you, man.

I can't wait for an ARCADE release on this. Lazy slobs. Enjoy your online.

actually, i'll be playing them both
so there.

[Laivasse]

Haven't really been into SF since after Alpha 2. I hope they ditch the horrible American voiceovers for this one, along with stuff like gameshow-host-voices shouting 'READY GUYS???!?!?!' or 'IT'S TIME TO PARTY!!!!' at the beginning of a round.

[Darkside55]

Well, at least it's good to know that the people here are trying to play it in arcades as well. I was just having this conversation at a golfland on Sunday, talking about how it's online play that killed the arcade. The arcade was once a staple of life; you couldn't live without the thing. But attendance started dropping, people didn't want to go out anymore and spend their quarters, and then online came and it was the nail in the coffin. Now arcades are empty. I don't even see children there anymore and it breaks my heart. A generation growing up without the arcade. ;(

I hope they ditch...gameshow-host-voices shouting 'READY GUYS???!?!?!' or 'IT'S TIME TO PARTY!!!!' at the beginning of a round.
I think I hate you. I might actually hate you. How're you going to hate the announcer? He's the greatest of all time. How can you possibly hate "Go for broke!" and "Triumph or die?"

I'm gonna take you for a ride.

[Warbie]

Gouken \o/

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/42730.html

[Darkside55]

Shit sucks. I know it's a fighting game, who gives a shit about fighting game canon, but come on. Gouken's dead. Retconning that, of all things, throws everything out the window.

If you were going to throw another ansatsuken user into the mix, why not Little Miss? That makes more sense, since we actually know Gouken died but nobody knows what happened to her. She'd be the last descendant of Goutetsu and therefore COULD be as strong as Gouken now. Or at least she could be using the techniques Gouken would use.

Alternatively make her a Goutetsu-ryuu ansatsuken user instead of Gouken-ryuu. That'd be savage. Or give her some of Retsu's moves.

But no, Capcom doesn't give a shit about their own canon. They probably don't even remember Little Miss.

[Dr.Freeman]

Jeez, Gouken rocks.

[Warbie]

Shit sucks. I know it's a fighting game, who gives a shit about fighting game canon, but come on. Gouken's dead. Retconning that, of all things, throws everything out the window.

If you were going to throw another ansatsuken user into the mix, why not Little Miss? That makes more sense, since we actually know Gouken died but nobody knows what happened to her. She'd be the last descendant of Goutetsu and therefore COULD be as strong as Gouken now. Or at least she could be using the techniques Gouken would use.

Alternatively make her a Goutetsu-ryuu ansatsuken user instead of Gouken-ryuu. That'd be savage. Or give her some of Retsu's moves.

But no, Capcom doesn't give a shit about their own canon. They probably don't even remember Little Miss.

I didn't understand a word of that :)

[Darkside55]

Damn it, I had faith in you Warbie. :laugh:

Gouken had a daughter known only as Oujo-sama, or Little Miss. She trained with Ryu and Ken. Nobody knows what happened to her after Gouken was killed--she was gone by the time Ken arrived to fight Gouki (Akuma).

There were only two drawings ever done for Little Miss, and Capcom has long since forgotten about her. Although I once heard that Makoto was inspired by Little Miss in her original design, because she was going to be an ansatsuken user...but also she was going to be Ryu's sister. All that was thrown out. I don't know how true the first part is anyway; she could've just been inspired by Ryu's brother Shun.

Anyway, assuming Little Miss didn't die, where'd she go? She could've taken up residence with Retsu, the monk from Street Fighter 1, who was a good friend of Gouken. Gouki would not have killed her, but he wouldn't have raised her either. At most he would've seen to her safety and then left.

So Capcom could've totally brought her into canon again by using her instead of Gouken, and she could've either used Gouken's passive, non-killing ansatsuken, or she could've used the murderous ansatsuken developed by Goutetsu and used by Gouki, the "true" ansatsuken. Seeing your father die in front of you by being literally dragged into hell and having his lung punched out would probably give you some murderous intent. But more likely, she'd be a Gouken-ryuu martial artist on a master level. And she could have some kempo moves as well, from training with Retsu.

That way too, it'd explain how Ryu mysteriously learned joudan soukutu geri and shin shoryuken in SFIII, both of which you can see Gouken do in that video. Also if you watch in that video you can see Gouken has shippuu jinrai kyaku, a move that was supposed to have been invented by Ken. Shit's ridiculous; that move is supposed to be from Ken's improvisation, not an actual ansatsuken move.



tl;dr: Darkside knows more about Street Fighter than Capcom, and is deeply saddened at no Little Miss.

[Warbie]

Focus attacks! (http://video.google.co.uk/videosearch?client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-GB:official&channel=s&hl=en&q=street+fighter+4&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=X&oi=video_result_group&resnum=4&ct=title#)

[B_MAN]

only 1 more month til the NA release
anybody planning on buying an arcade stick/gamepad?
i know i'm gonna hafta invest in something cause the 360 controller simply will not do.

[Darkside55]

I'm highly considering picking up the $150 pro stick, the only problem is money and the fact that I'm not a real big fan of the Japanese-style ball sticks, so I might want to buy a "corn dog"-style stick and swap that out. The nice thing about the Mad Catz SFIV pro stick is that all the buttons are hot swappable and the stick itself has a universal bracket, so you just unscrew and mount a new stick. Really, really nice.

Man, interesting this thread got bumped; for the past two hours I've been watching tourney videos. I'm watching the Arcade Infinity teams matchup in another tab.

[mchammer75040]

link me wise one.

[Darkside55]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpqy6XxrOr0

[mchammer75040]

Holy shit that second battle was epic. Good video quality too.

[Darkside55]

Most of these battles can be viewed in HD on youtube.

[mchammer75040]

AHH I see now, also wtf at rufus:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WR7vn6ca26I&feature=related
was this guy on a previous SF? I don't remember him.

[Darkside55]

Nah, he's a new guy. I have a sneaking suspicion that he was added in there after Bob was announced for Tekken 6. (They're both fat, blonde American guys who are deceptively fast)

Watching people play as him, he seems OK, but I hate the way he looks too much to ever consider playing as him. I'll play him to get his unlockable stuff, and his ending, and then never choose him again.

Oh, speaking of unlockables, some more stuff for consoles:

one unlockable outfit per character
you can unlock the Japanese voices, and INDIVIDUALLY set dub/sub settings per character (so English Cammy and Japanese Ryu, for instance)
you can turn off the announcer (for Laivasse :p)
you can select your win pose; I think there are 11 win poses per character?
selectable taunts at the versus screen
selectable colors at the versus screen for default outfit, don't know about unlockable outfit

[Sliver]

My friend got to play this at Comic-con. He got his ass handed to him by some guy in a Batman suit, 5 rounds in a row.

[Darkside55]

Well duh. It's Batman.

[mchammer75040]

^lol
Meh that list sounds alright, the selecting poses/taunts seems kind of ridiculous to me. Why not have some taunts you can actually perform when you win, like UT's pelvic thrust. But more tea bagging. Also costumes serve no interest to me, and I've never understand the idea behind it unless its incorporated into online play somehow like in VF5.

Also as far as rufus, yes he does look completely retarded with that weird animation of his stomach.

[Viperidae]

Eh.

I played about six rounds (low on quarters) at one of the two arcades in Vancouver. Call me a hater but I just really didn't like the new graphics style. I really think Capcom just got lazy and instead of doing good quality sprites opted to do some (arguably cheaper production wise) semi-cell models or whatever they are. I just don't like the flow of the movements. Everything's jerky. Jumps seem to just send you up and gravity feels like it's twice what it should be. Everything looks clumsy, especially the grabs. The hitboxes are clunky.

Compare to: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BiJhHMgLRK8

Maybe I've been spoiled by 3rd Strike. I was really hoping for an actual revival of the series, not a look into the past. As if 3s didn't get boring enough with the same YunChunKen matchups, they decided to bring back the same characters yet again. I think the logic was that since SF2 was such a massive success in both Japan and the States, that going back to those old characters would revive SF interest in North America (and it seems to have worked).

I guess if I want a current-gen fighter I'll have to look to KoF :|

inb4darkseidrage

EDIT: I'm also really pissed that you can still pull that dumbass flying HK-low HK combo on the shotos that you've been able to pull off since SF2. It's so retardedly powerful and I managed to win against people in SF4 by resorting/spamming to it when not knowing any of the new combos.

[Darkside55]

Yeah but you should know how expensive 3S was to make. 3S also flopped hard. 3S was never popular, with any demographic (Japan or the West). This was really the only way to get Street Fighter back on its feet; cost-effective, and returning to its roots which, as you said, sparked interest.

KoF XII sure is pretty, though. I myself never liked KoF games, didn't like the system. The only way I play those games is if they have Geese. Because, y'know, best fighting game character ever.

hk low hk
Stop playing against scrubs. Stop BEING a scrub. Didn't you just say you play 3S? Why must you scrub?

[Viperidae]

Stop playing against scrubs. Stop BEING a scrub. Didn't you just say you play 3S? Why must you scrub?
Keywords: one of TWO arcades in my entire area. The entire Greater Vancouver Regional District. The common player demographic here plays ddr most of his life.

I'm a scrub because I can't just pick up a game I'm totally expecting to play differently? As I said, choppy gameplay. I had a very limited number of rounds. The game felt like SF2, so I start playing it like old SF2, which means fireball/cheap move spam. I also failed to read up on all the newfangled meter systems so I really had no idea what I was doing.

[B_MAN]

Eh.

I played about six rounds (low on quarters) at one of the two arcades in Vancouver. Call me a hater but I just really didn't like the new graphics style. I really think Capcom just got lazy and instead of doing good quality sprites opted to do some (arguably cheaper production wise) semi-cell models or whatever they are. I just don't like the flow of the movements. Everything's jerky. Jumps seem to just send you up and gravity feels like it's twice what it should be. Everything looks clumsy, especially the grabs. The hitboxes are clunky.

Compare to: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BiJhHMgLRK8

Maybe I've been spoiled by 3rd Strike. I was really hoping for an actual revival of the series, not a look into the past. As if 3s didn't get boring enough with the same YunChunKen matchups, they decided to bring back the same characters yet again. I think the logic was that since SF2 was such a massive success in both Japan and the States, that going back to those old characters would revive SF interest in North America (and it seems to have worked).

I guess if I want a current-gen fighter I'll have to look to KoF :|

inb4darkseidrage

EDIT: I'm also really pissed that you can still pull that dumbass flying HK-low HK combo on the shotos that you've been able to pull off since SF2. It's so retardedly powerful and I managed to win against people in SF4 by resorting/spamming to it when not knowing any of the new combos.

first off: cool that you're in Van. i had a chance to play ONE round at the arcade in Metrotown about a month or so ago... really hard to judge it by that

but i know what you mean about 3S. i'm a HUGE fan of the game and i much prefer the art style/graphics and the way it plays and feels

however, i'm willing to give SFIV a chance and hopefully it'll grow on me because i love the thought of being able to play SF online :P

[Darkside55]

Keywords: one of TWO arcades in my entire area. The entire Greater Vancouver Regional District.
:(

so I start playing it like old SF2, which means fireball/cheap move spam
SF2
spam cheap moves with a shoto
http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/2695/scrub1uy3.jpg

Ah, I'm just ribbing ya, scrubby. ;)

Who do you guys play in 3S, btw, Viper and B_Man? I play Makoto.




And Ryu. :laugh:

[Laivasse]

#you can unlock the Japanese voices, and INDIVIDUALLY set dub/sub settings per character (so English Cammy and Japanese Ryu, for instance)
you can turn off the announcer (for Laivasse :p)Now these are some unlocks/misc. options that a man can really give a crap about. To whom do I submit my crap?My friend got to play this at Comic-con. He got his ass handed to him by some guy in a Batman suit, 5 rounds in a row.I don't think it was a Batman suit... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wj-Sz-74VeU)

[Viperidae]

I really gave Makoto a shot at first. Bitch has horrible recovery on certain moves. Need to practice with her more. Actually owning the game might help with that.

I admit I mess with Ken too much. I hate it immensely, but he's ****ing cheap (NO NOT JUST SCRUB MOVES K. CHP>DPP>>SA3 LAWL).

Ryu is a douche.

[B_MAN]

Ryu and Dudley most of the time
"Gutta traaash"

[Darkside55]

Ryu is the only true master of the fist. Actually to be honest the only reason I play him at all is because I really like his character (that stoic discipline and continuous training), and I never really played him at all in 3S until after I started using him on my P Groove team in CvS2. I started off playing Elena for New Generation/Second Impact, and then Makoto in 3S.

She's fairly straightforward once you get the hang of her. It's mostly choke, HP, CHESTO!


Also, Dudley is awesome. He fights with dignity.

[mchammer75040]

I don't think it was a Batman suit... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wj-Sz-74VeU)
WHAT? :frown:

[Laivasse]

WHAT? :frown:Said: Hear the one about the nun?

This drunk guy comes out of a bar, and walks up to a nun in this big black cape.

WHAM! He slugs her in her teeth. WHAM! She goes down. After a few minutes he stops, looks at her and says: "You're not so tough, Batman!"

Vinz: That's a killer!

Said: He thought the nun was Batman!

Vinz: I heard it with a rabbi.

[Darkside55]

I'll always remember that joke not because of Batman, but because I remember it won $50 in a Playboy (or some other rag) joke contest.

[mchammer75040]

A 1 hour SF4 game night with 1up:
http://gamevideos.1up.com/video/id/23342
Pretty cool.

[Darkside55]

Watching people fight using Fei Long at the start of that video, I'm still disappointed they put him in there instead of my delicious drill-haired Karin Kanzuki. Karin is far superior to Fei Long in every way. Fei Long's rushing punches, the rekkaken, has no variance...it's three forward-moving punches. That's all it does. Karin's kourenken can be three punches, or finish with a palm strike, or her anti-air kick, a slide kick, or a counter. Kourenken has the best mixup game for a single move that I can think of, for any SF character.

Fei Long's got the rising dragon kick, which has higher reach than Karin's mujin kyaku, and hits three times instead of twice, but I don't consider it THAT big an advantage. Karin's ressen ha is the same as Fei Long's rekkukyaku.

Their super arts are pretty much the same.

But one thing that Karin has that Fei Long doesn't have are COUNTERS. Geese Howard-style command counters. And as I said, she can go into a counter at the end of her kourenken, to catch people trying to get a poke in at you or a sweep kick between your punches.

Oh and she's got that 360 command throw for wakeups.

Man, why'd they even put Fei Long in there? Capcom haet Karin. :(

[mchammer75040]

I don't know enough about street fighter really, but was Karin in 2? If she wasn't maybe thats why. Anyways I thought the vid was cool, especially with the trash talking and what not on the new characters, I just wish they had played as more than ryu/ken. Jesus does everyone and their mother have to play either ryu or ken?? I know they're iconic, but come onn...

[Darkside55]

Karin was in Alpha 3. She's Sakura's rival, which is one of the reasons I think she should've been in there.

If they brought back Sakura, and wanted to fill a spot with Fei Long, why not go for Karin and get a better Fei Long, PLUS a rival for one of the new characters?

Plus Fei Long was supposed to have given up on fighting anyway, because he knew he could never equal Bruce Lee.

[Bad^Hat]

So I can't say I'm particularly excited for the game (awesome as it looks), but holy shit am I ever getting one of these:

http://www.amazon.com/Xbox-360-Street-Fighter-IV-FightPad/dp/B001M241L4

F*ck you, 360 d-pad. No more will you darken my arcade-playing days. :D

[Darkside55]

Get one of the fightsticks instead.

[B_MAN]

http://www.amazon.com/Xbox-360-Street-Fighter-IV-FightPad/dp/B001M241L4

F*ck you, 360 d-pad. No more will you darken my arcade-playing days. :D

same.
the fightsticks are too expensive imo.
besides, i prefer a decent d-pad over a stick..unfortunately that makes for some awkward fights in the arcade :o

[Darkside55]

I'll never understand people who prefer pads to sticks. Maybe more of you guys played at home instead of the arcade.

[Bad^Hat]

Bingo bango.

I played at the arcade now and then, but I don't think it'd quite be the same thing unless the stick was nailed down or something.

[Warbie]

Borrowed from ntsc-uk:

New charatcer walkthroughs and other cool shit ...

Gouken!

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/44686.html

Akuma!

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/44684.html

Seth!

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/44692.html

Dan vs. Sakura!

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/44713.html

Arcade stick!

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/44694.html

http://kotaku.com/5138267/hands-all-over-street-fighter-iv-tournament-edition-fight-stick

[Darkside55]

OH MY GOD

Gouken has kongoshin! Fffffffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck. I was all set to once again master Ryu's fist, and then maybe start maining Abel, but after watching that video...Capcom, what have you done? Oro-esque fireball, joudan sokuto geri as his focus attack, and COUNTERS? You gave him COUNTERS?! Are you attempting to make me invincible, Capcom? You can't give me counters! Did you learn nothing from Alpha 3 and CvS2?

Damn it I didn't even want to play Gouken, really. I'm still miffed he's been resurrected. But he has kongoshin. This is ridiculous. I am throwing up my hands in exasperation and disbelief.



Also, last night I got my hands on the training manual. :D It's an artbook/movelist thing. Pretty cool.




Kongoshin. Goddamn.

[Warbie]

Gouken has kongoshin! Fffffffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck. I was all set to once again master Ryu's fist, and then maybe start maining Abel, but after watching that video...Capcom, what have you done? Oro-esque fireball, joudan sokuto geri as his focus attack, and COUNTERS?

Once again you manage to talk about SF without me having a clue what you're saying :)

[Darkside55]

Basically I'm saying that Capcom was oh so unwise to put a character with a command counter in the roster. It becomes unfair if you give me a character who has counters. Now, you give that same character a directional, charge fireball (Oro from SF3 could control the direction of his projectile with the buttons as well), and a focus attack which is Ryu's best move from SF3, shit gets ridiculous unfair. I'm just going to stand still and counter all day, like a pillar. The Pillar of Gouken.

It's a good thing they didn't give him an air fireball, otherwise I'd practically have Geese Howard in a Street Fighter game.

[rAdIOhEaD]

Maybe it is too early to tell, but if Gouken is really that broken it will be banned from tournaments, and poeple online will be quitting the matches if someone selects it.
So far I haven't seen the latest CAPCOM tournaments at San Francisco being won by a Gouken player but like I said, too early to tell...

[Bad^Hat]

Oh well **** me. I was kind of dismissive of getting a stick over a nice pad, but that video just about sold me. Shit looks QUALITY.

Anyone have any idea if you'd be able to hook that up to a PC? I'd put down a pre-order right ****ing now if I knew I could use it for emulato-- uhh, legitimate PC games.

[Warbie]

I'm so close to spending a silly amount of money on that arcade stick:

http://wa2.images.onesite.com/capcom-unity.com/user/s-kill/dsc01753.jpg?v=269400

[Darkside55]

Good luck, they're all sold out except for ebay. Enjoy spending $300+ dollars.


Oh and also Hat you should be able to hook the PS3 arcade stick to PC. I already use my sixaxis on this thing.

[Warbie]

There's more stock on the way. They probably won't make launch, but there'll be TE sticks for those that want them.

[Darkside55]

But by then it'll be too laaaaaaaaaaaaate!

I'm just going to go ahead and get the cheap-o stick for now and get the TE later.

[Bad^Hat]

Bit of poking around reveals that the 360 sticks should work fine on PC - any wired controllers just work through Microsoft's drivers (and wireless can work through an adapter). No telling how well, but if it works on 360, I don't see why it shouldn't work the same on PC.

So what's the different between the regular and TE sticks? Just cheaper parts/less pretty exterior?

[Warbie]

Pretty much. The TE is made with the same components as the arcade machine and it looks pretty much identical. It has a little flip up door in the front for storing the cable and you can screw it down to a surface. It's meant to be very easy to mod if you're into that kind of thing - put a new stick, change buttons etc. It looks pretty heavy.

I'm thinking of going for the cheaper of the sticks now as I tend to play with on my lap rather than on a table.

[Darkside55]

I used to have this heavy wooden cabinet stick for my PS2 that I played with on my lap. I miss that stick. ;(



And to be perfectly honest I like the design of the standard fightsticks more than than the TE; all the characters on the face instead of the red lacquer.

[Darkside55]

Yo, I hate double posting but listen up, this is how you play Chun Li in SFIV, lyrically

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e42UQy9vNKE&fmt=18

[Viperidae]

FVCK RNB VOCODERS.

http://www.vintagesynth.com/korg/vc10.jpg

FFFFFFFFFFF

[elrasho]

Played it for 2 hours last night and its just how I expected it to be. The gampplay is perfect, exactly what a street fighter game should be like. The graphics are amazing with great attention to detail on each character (especially the facial expressions during combat).

Im using a normal 360 pad and can pull off moves with ease, you don’t need to buy that Mad Katz pad or an arcade stick. I found using the analogue stick to do ultra moves easier than using the D pad.

Ive played through the single player campaign as Ken on Medium and found the AI easy up until you get to Seth. That mother fu&^er is so hard!! When you play him after the first round and win he "reenergises" himself and then hes almost impossible to beat. Hes fast and can almost predict what your gonna do. The worst thing is tha the can teleport fast and so this throws you off when your about to lay into him with a mean combo. Also get too close and he throws you with ease. I did finally beat him after like 10 goes but didn’t get an achievement or anything! Grrrr

Now heres what I dont like. Blankas voice acting makes him out to be a stupid CBBC villain monster type creature and the voice acting for him is terrible. We were told the 360 version will have more of a story element in the single player... bolox. The only story for Ken was the single player Ken scenario starts ogg with an anime cartoon of Ken sat on his weight training bench looking at a Postcard from Ryu asking for a rematch. Ken asks his pregnant for permission to go spa with Ryu and she says yes. thats the end of Kens intro story. You then go and have a regular bout with Ryu with no added dialogue to state Ken and Rys are friends or anything like that. After beating Ryu its the usual fight 6 or 7 opponents (last one is Seth) and then you get Kens second and final cut scene. He goes back home and asks his wife if shes and baby is ok.... thats it the end. What a joke! No achievement unlocked either. Was hoping for a more story based single player telling the player about the characters past and what their intentions are for being in Street Fighter, but instead the storys are more like gimmicky anime cartoons trying to get the player more involved into the game but it fails badly.

Overall its a great game and Im sure multilayer will where its at. Pulling off a 17 hit ultra combo to defeat your foe has never been so exhilarating in a fighting game. Well done Capcom, you've delivered the goods on this one :-)

The graphics do seem dummed down compared to the Arcade version, the shading is not as intense and some of the extra effects are missing too, still looks gorgeous

Oh and When Ken does his spinning kick he doesn’t say “tatsumaku-sempi-kiyaku” he just growls which is a shame.

[Darkside55]

How are you playing it on console right now? Don't make me kill you...

Sounds like Seth has Gill's "REGENERATION!" which is kinda cool. I wonder if Seth's regen has the same weakness Gill's does...

Also don't forget you can unlock different voice actors, so hopefully if you don't like one the other will suffice.

You then go and have a regular bout with Ryu with no added dialogue to state Ken and Rys are friends or anything like that.
I don't think there's anyone who doesn't know that. Children come out of the womb knowing that.

And Ken might have lost saying "tatsumaki" but he gains Jotaro Kujo-esque, "ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA" for his ultra.

[elrasho]

A freind has got a flashed 360. Seth does not regenerate like Gill does, he enery doesnt come back. He just says something like "now feel my true power", then te round starts and you instantly notice he uses all his powers to beat you as soon as he can... I was litereally just sat there watching him teleport around the screen and hitting me from all directions.

[Darkside55]

Sounds awesome. Like a good ol' SNK boss.

[VictimOfScience]

Man, I can't wait to get this either. This month is going to be expensive again. There is just too much coming out for those of us with home consoles and handhelds. :(

Sad to hear about Ken's language though. Those phrases were some of the best fun of playing them.

[Darkside55]

Ryu still says "tatsumaki," though. At least in arcades.

And February IS expensive. Too much stuff coming out this month.

[VictimOfScience]

Ryu still says "tatsumaki," though. At least in arcades.
Good. I like him more anyway. :O

And February IS expensive. Too much stuff coming out this month.
My list consists of

Dragon Quest V (DS)
Dawn of War II (PC)
Street Fighter IV (PS3)
Demon's Souls (PS3)
Killzone 2 (PS3)
Prinny: Can I Really Be the Hero? (PSP)
Star Ocean: The Last Hope (360)

We will have to see what gets pushed back due to lack of funds until next month...or later! ;(

[Darkside55]

I love Ryu as a character, but I'm trying to distance myself from using him. I want to use other people...last week I spent every waking moment playing 3S with my friends, and I just wanted to get away from being Ryu. As I put it to one of my friends after I defeated him soundly, "This is why I don't want to play Ryu. Don't make a monster out of me."

I think I'm going to main Abel for IV.

But I'm entering a tourney on the 21st, and man...I have a feeling I'm going to select Ryu at one point, because I need a pass to the second stage of the tournament. Finals will be in SF, and anyone who makes it there goes to Evo in Vegas.

[stemot]

I was getting the PC version of SF4 (for the higher res's and cripser visuals) but it seems it's been delayed, which is always the case with Capcoms PC releases, so I've "obtained" the 360 version to play until then, which I will, when my missus stops watching shitty ghost programs so I can get on the ****ing x-box.

[Darkside55]

Ha, you've got the game already, I just got back from getting the fightstick.

So, the standard fightstick is a pretty solid piece, more than I was actually expecting. Hefting it versus my Dreamcast arcade stick, it's heavier, but nowhere close to my old Pelican Tournament Edition. The ball stick is good, has a nice feel to it, and the square restrictor actually isn't a bother at all, like I thought it would be. I'm used to a circular or octagonal gate, but what they say about square plates finding the corners seems to be true.

The buttons are kinda "light" on this stick; it isn't a problem or anything, but they just feel somewhat...light. Insubstantial. I don't know how better to explain it. I assume this is one of the reasons the $150 sticks are said to have higher-grade parts; these buttons don't have a real "snap" or weight to them. I'm sure you understand what I'm talking about if you've used arcade sticks.

Thing's not flat, either. It's got a bit of a downcurve below the buttons and the stick. Interesting aesthetic, serves no real purpose but looks. Also I am digging the face on this thing--the original eight World Warriors are displayed, and I just now realized whose giant fists these are. (Dhalsim's, haha. He's punching across the controller)

You've all heard the features like Start and Select being on the back, turbo (two speeds), there's a switch to make the joystick function as either D-pad, left analog, or right analog; there's a button lock. Home button is right on top, though...I don't assume it'll be a problem at all, but it's a button I would have assumed would've also been on the back. Oh, also I should note that the cable is 4 meters long.

So all in all, a pretty good stick. Worth the price if you can't find/afford one of the TEs.

I'll be practicing using this thing on Tekken 5 until I get SFIV, WHICH BTW I almost didn't get. Turns out the preorders for the Collector's Edition ended yesterday at GameStop, and other stores have been out for awhile, but I managed to snag one at a store that still had some--but I'll be getting it the 19th instead of the 17th.

But I also managed to score two gigantic SFIV posters that were put up on display, because no one had claimed them. Score.

[elrasho]

Was playing SF4 for another 2 hours last night, its just so damn enjoyable! Reminds me alot of SF2 Turbo in relation to the timing andcharachter roster. Ive found out how to unlock Seth.... you have to complete Arcade mode with every non-unlockable charachter. Once youve got Seth, you then need to complete Arcade mode with every unlockable charachter to get Akuma.

I was doing the old combos and moves I used to do with Ken/Ryu on SF2 Turbo and they are still effectine in this game. Eg, for Zangief just keep jumping straight up and when he gets close do a HK and it will land 99% of the time, boring but works. Zangief is relly hard to beat on the ground, you gotta use air attacks and projectiles. He has this very fast reverse fist punch which is devestaing when it lands.

Been practising more using the EX Moves and the "absorb counter" thingy, works really well.

Hey Darkside55, are you getting it on xbox 360?

[Darkside55]

PS3.

Also Zangief's EX banishing flat, from what I've seen, is monstrous.

[elrasho]

IGN Review: http://uk.xbox360.ign.com/articles/953/953770p1.html

9.5 - Im well happy

I was thiking its a shame they've removed parrying from the combat, you can still parry by doing a Focus Attack but its not as quick in SF:Third Strike

[Darkside55]

I was thiking its a shame they've removed parrying from the combat, you can still parry by doing a Focus Attack but its not as quick in SF:Third Strike
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1JBpp1_SNtE

[elrasho]

Nice video but you cant parry as quickly as need to when in close quarters combat, for example you cant do something like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGKKa3OiM-g&eurl=http://www.eventhubs.com/videos/2007/oct/05/street-fighter-3-third-strike-guide-advanced-parrying/&feature=player_embedded

[stemot]

I finally got on it last night around 2.00am, and my impressions were less than favourable, I loaded it up for another go this afternoon and lost myself into it, fantastic fighting game and every bit as good as the old SF2 games I used to be so fond of.

[Darkside55]

parrying

Very true, but instances like that in 3S where you need to parry a full super like that are extremely rare. In a standard match you're going to parry perhaps one or two hits and then punish.

I play P Groove in CvS2 as well, it's the only groove I use, and even there the opportunities for parry are limited. Parry's main use is against projectiles, projectile supers you can't block or avoid, or to create an opening. I could parry the entirety of mega psycho crusher, but I'm not going to, y'know. Parry one hit, retaliate.

Plus the thing with parry was, casuals just didn't get it. It was off-putting to them.

[elrasho]

I see where your coming from Darkside55

Gonna practice some more tonight, I wanna learn Ken, Guile, El Fuerto and Abil inside out

[Darkside55]

That guy who did the kara video I just posted, he shows off some Guile combos you might be interested in:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lato8FmMoIQ

Also, highfive Abel buddy. :D

[elrasho]

Yeah seen that video, he must be using the Arcade Stick coz its harder to do those combos using the 360 pad although I havent tried any complex combos yet. Im trying to perfect the Super and Ultra moves so I can do them as though I was pressing a single button :-)

Abel is my fave out of the new charachters, but I cant wait to unlock Akuma, hes one baaad mofo!

Has anyone watched the accompanying anime movie yet? If so whats the story behined SF4?

[Darkside55]

It's up on Youtube, but I don't want to watch it until I get the disc in my hands.

I've been spoiling myself on the prologues and endings, and that's already too much.

[elrasho]

Had a Street Fighter 4 Weekend, was awesome! Cant say how much I love this game. Eurogamer gave it a 10 too :-)

Thing Ive noticed is that the little quips the charachters say at the end of a fight are unique to whichever fighter they beat. For example, when Blanka beats E.Honda he says something like "fighting has no room for fatsos", which I think is a nice touch. Didnt know there was a TrialMode where you are challenged to perform certain combos (The Trial challenges teach you moves and combos of scaling difficulty for each of the game's 25 characters, a useful feature for expanding your competence - Eurogamer)

Ive unlcoked all charachters except for Seth, Akuma and Gouken. Should have that done tonight then Im gonna go through the Trial mode. Well done Capcom, you really have done the Street Fighter series justice with SF4.

[B_MAN]

Had a Street Fighter 4 Weekend, was awesome! Cant say how much I love this game. Eurogamer gave it a 10 too :-)

Thing Ive noticed is that the little quips the charachters say at the end of a fight are unique to whichever fighter they beat. For example, when Blanka beats E.Honda he says something like "fighting has no room for fatsos", which I think is a nice touch. Didnt know there was a TrialMode where you are challenged to perform certain combos (The Trial challenges teach you moves and combos of scaling difficulty for each of the game's 25 characters, a useful feature for expanding your competence - Eurogamer)

Ive unlcoked all charachters except for Seth, Akuma and Gouken. Should have that done tonight then Im gonna go through the Trial mode. Well done Capcom, you really have done the Street Fighter series justice with SF4.

very encouraging mini-review :)
can't wait to grab my copy tomorrow!!

[bam23]

i've always been a tekken guy and i've never actually dabbled in street fighter before. how do you think i would enjoy this? looks to cool to pass up.

[elrasho]

Hey bam23, it is different to Tekken in that its faster and you need to use combos to beat the top players. I find in Tekken you can block block block block then do a couple of hard hits and go back to blocking again. SF4 relies more on being offensive (especially because of the the Focus Attacks).

I think you just rent at least and see how you like it. I unlocked Akuma last night :-) Gonna unlock the rest of the charachters and then move onto the challenges and trials. By the time Ove done that hopefully the Live Servers will be on and I can get to kicking all ur asses ;-)

Oh and I noticed when you fighter your rival (the charachter you fight just before Seth), the two fighters swap banter throughout the rounds. For example, Abilnd Guile are rivals and after Abil throws Guiles he says "Were you really in the military?", small yet cool touch.

Anyone getting the Mad Katz pads? I find it near impossible to do Vega and Guiles Ultra moves. You got do: Down diaganol back > Down diagonal forward the Up diagonal back followed by LK+MK+HK. Managed to do it once :-(

Ithink its too easy to ger you Ultra bar full. I find my Ultra bar gets filled up quicker compared to my Super. Ultra bar gets full from taken damage and Super Combo slots fill up from combos and blocks you do. My combo bar doesnt get full until halfway through the second round, probably becasue EX moves use a combo slot. Still it balances out the fights perfectly and its something you realise after your 50th fight.

Capcom have done a great job of making sure all the charachters stregths and weaknesses are visible e.g. Dhalsim is really sh1t in the air, hes got more hang time the Michael Jordan and slow as a snail. But on the ground his reach makes up for it. Also his teleportaion can be done in mid air, so you teleport to another location are you are still in the jump phase so you can initiate an arial attack.

[elrasho]

This is an heads up for those who are gonna get the game. DONT insallt any patches!! I got a message saying theres an update for SF4 so I downloaded it thinking it was for the save replay and what not.... well after I beat the game with Akuma to unlock Gouken I was expecting it to say "GOUKEN has been unlocked" like it does for all the other charachers but no it didnt.

After reading around on the net Capcom have released a patch which only allows charachters to be unlocked if you play the game on MEDIUM or above! Bast@rds they could have warned us!! :hmph:

I was doing just fine completeing the game with every character on EASIEST and now I just have to unlock Seth and Gouken and its gonna take ages GRRR

[elrasho]

Anyone got the Mad Katz Pads or Sticks? Im thinking of getting a pad but they are all on pre order in the UK

[Bad^Hat]

I want to get one of the standard sticks but I can only find the TE ones (for pre-order anyway) at the places I normally shop. And they're 400 ****ing dollars. D: (The Hori sticks go for around $130 here)

[Bakurei]

Well had to give SF4 a go and ordered it. I just hope my controllers won't break down... Just finished Soul Calibur 4's tower of lost souls.

[B_MAN]

This is an heads up for those who are gonna get the game. DONT insallt any patches!! I got a message saying theres an update for SF4 so I downloaded it thinking it was for the save replay and what not.... well after I beat the game with Akuma to unlock Gouken I was expecting it to say "GOUKEN has been unlocked" like it does for all the other charachers but no it didnt.

After reading around on the net Capcom have released a patch which only allows charachters to be unlocked if you play the game on MEDIUM or above! Bast@rds they could have warned us!! :hmph:

I was doing just fine completeing the game with every character on EASIEST and now I just have to unlock Seth and Gouken and its gonna take ages GRRR

hey thanks for the headsup
although i wouldn't mind the challenge tbh

[Darkside55]

So how are you guys enjoying Ryu and Ken IV? Boy it sure is fun having a fighting game with two whole characters in it. People around the globe for the past several days have been enjoying playing two characters over and over and over again. Isn't it great that you can log onto a network battle at any time of day and get to fight Ryu OR Ken? It's great to see that no matter where you're from--North America, Europe, Asia, or just about anywhere!--you get to fight Ryu. And Ken. And Ryu. And Ken. And Ryu. And Ken.

For several hours.

It's also nice to see that everyone around the world plays them exactly the same. Hey, your tatsumaki into shoryuken might not work, EVER, but you can take comfort in knowing that among the hundred(s) of thousand people who purchased SFIV, 99% of you are all doing the exact same thing. Repeatedly.

For several hours.

Boy what a great community. HADOUKEN, am I right guys? XD




Anyone got the Mad Katz Pads or Sticks? Im thinking of getting a pad but they are all on pre order in the UK
I want to get one of the standard sticks
First couple of hours:

"This stick is great."

About seven hours later:

"DUCK YOU PIECE OF SHIT, NOT JUMP! NO! STOP...STOP FIGHTING ME YOU STUPID THING! Oh great now it isn't even working anymore...goddamn it..."

I could have just ended up with a bad stick, I don't know. But it tries to fight against me at every opportunity. Sometimes it does what you want and sometimes it's like, "**** you, I'm going to get stuck in the down position or the forward/back position, and even manually placing me in the default position won't do anything for you. Sorry I'm making your battles against me rather than against the opponent."

Don't be fooled by what Capcom has told you. Mad Catz controllers are still shit. It should not come as any surprise. MAD CATZ.

[elrasho]

ha ha Darkside ur sarcasm is on the dot. I think its becasue alot of gamers whio played df2 in the 90s are only getting back into Street Fighter games now that SF4 is out. They must have not played all the incrnations of SF2 or Third Strike and so are learning Ken/Ryu inside out again from fresh. Granted they can do this in challenge mode/training mode but they arent as fun as fighting a real apponant.

Have u unlocked Goucken yet? I cant do it no matter how many perfects and ultra combos finishers I do, its really pissing me off

[Darkside55]

Haven't unlocked Gouken yet. Friends and I have been playing since Tuesday--last night was actually the first sleep I'd gotten since then :laugh:--and we were more interested in fighting and training for this tournament Saturday than unlocking people. I did see two Goukens online though; neither of them knew how to play him yet.

And yeah, I assume one of the reasons there's so many of them is because people consider them the "main characters" of the game and are reusing them, but I just want people to realize there are other characters in the game. There are 20 other characters! But nobody ever pays attention to them. I can only hope that each time I destroy a Ryu or Ken online with Abel they will say, "Wow, who was that guy? Who are all these other guys? How do I play them?"

There are other characters in the game. Play them. Don't let this end up like Street Fighter 3:

http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/8131/1226333031566lp3.jpg

[elrasho]

Ha ha ha that comic says it all

How online play? Is it laggy? Ive played a cople and both times there was no bar next to the connection status so I could only assume the connection was really crap, but I still had a good game was like playing against someone sat next to me. Should have my Mad Katz pad next week will let yo guys know if its any good

[Darkside55]

I've had extremely few laggy matches. Like two out of hundreds. It's weird; sometimes when you're searching matches there will be no bars visible, sometimes there are, but usually when you get into the lobby there are bars. Sometimes there aren't. :/

But despite that there's been almost no lag. During the wee hours of the morning I've been playing people from Japan and Korea (I believe it's Korea) and it's been fine even if there are only two bars.

Also dang I kind of wasted a reply because you're banned. But at least everyone else will read how the online is.

[Warbie]

Abel is my new man. He's a ****ing brute!

[Bad^Hat]

I still love that comic and I don't even play SF. :D

Oh well, thanks for the standard stick "review," I'll probably just steer clear. Maybe it's time I finally modded my 360 d-pad...

[Darkside55]

Some news about the stick, apparently there have been a batch of bad SE ones, but some work great. It's the luck of the draw, but if you DO get a bad stick, you can take an allen wrench to the thing and pop in a sanwa or seimitsu stick. The inside of the SEs are plug-and-play modifiable like the TE.

So if you get a bad one, $25 fix. Not bad considering the rising price of arcade sticks post SFIV; e-sellers and ebay have sticks (ALL arcade sticks, notably the HRAP series and the Mad Catz sticks) from $150-300.

[Darkside55]

HEY HL2.NET

OH MY, WHAT IS THIS HEADBAND?
http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/804/snapshot20090222.jpg

LOOKS LIKE THERE'S SOMETHING WRITTEN ON IT...
http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/827/snapshot200902222l.jpg

http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/4733/snapshot200902223.jpg

:awesome:
http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/5078/snapshot2009022219.jpg

[Officer Combine]

Haven't unlocked Gouken yet. Friends and I have been playing since Tuesday--last night was actually the first sleep I'd gotten since then :laugh:--and we were more interested in fighting and training for this tournament Saturday than unlocking people. I did see two Goukens online though; neither of them knew how to play him yet.

And yeah, I assume one of the reasons there's so many of them is because people consider them the "main characters" of the game and are reusing them, but I just want people to realize there are other characters in the game. There are 20 other characters! But nobody ever pays attention to them. I can only hope that each time I destroy a Ryu or Ken online with Abel they will say, "Wow, who was that guy? Who are all these other guys? How do I play them?"

There are other characters in the game. Play them. Don't let this end up like Street Fighter 3:

This, sir, is funny.

[Sedako]

I've just started getting into the arcade mode, and it's obvious that I haven't played any SF games in a looong time. Abel kicks my ass :/. Can't figure out if i like the d-pad or analog yet.

[Darkside55]

Abel was how I won that tournament.

Majority picked Ken. There was a Sagat, a Blanka, I believe there was a C.Viper, and there was one Ryu, possibly two. I didn't bother to even look at other peoples' matchups though; I walked around listening to pokemon music on my Soundwave.

Anyway, there were just so many Kens. Everyone was Ken. Ken Fighter IV. And here comes this guy picking Abel, and they're like, "Oh snap, look who that asian guy picked." Yeah, I got nicknamed "Asian Guy."

Here's a breakdown of how it went:

FALLING SKY FALLING SKY FALLING SKY FALLING SKY cr.MP CHANGE OF DIRECTION WHEEL KICK FALLING SKY FALLING SKY FALLING SKY FALLING SKY MARSEILLES ROLL EX TORNADO THROW

And that's the way it was. Next tournament is on Saturday. I wonder if there will be as many Kens...

[Sedako]

I'm trying to learn C. Viper. Also, I notice often that when I attempt to throw, the cpu seems to get the throw off before mine lands. Is there a counter-throw or something, or am I just being AI cheesed?

[Darkside55]

If you're talking about Abel's throw, because it's a command throw you can't counter it, and it has priority over your regular LP+LK throw. If you do a regular throw at the same time your opponent does a regular throw, you'll cancel each other out.

C. Viper's actually a very good character to learn. She's very SNK, in my eyes. Her lightning fist is so versatile, and her flame kick is nice. Try jumping in with a LK, then while you're still in the air use her flame kick.

[Sulkdodds]

Good lord. Theory Fighter 4.

EDIT HOLY SHIT PICS

[lefty]

darkside is that you in that headband

[Darkside55]

Yes, that is indeed me.

[Vegeta897]

Darkside you are hotter than I could have imagined.

[lefty]

Or me.

[Darkside55]

<3


less-than-three char

[Sulkdodds]

I like the cut of your jib.

[Sedako]

Darkside, see if you can figure this out: I'm trying to do C. Viper's challenge mode (where you have to input what it tells you to). In level 3, the 2nd combo where it asks you to do a jumping heavy kick followed directly by a heavy burning kick while still airborne... I can pull it off fine, but Dan seems to block the burning kick and it's not registering. Or maybe I'm just doing it wrong. Either way, I can't figure it out.

Edit: After about 20 minutes of trying, I finally pulled it off. Not sure how I did it, but....

[Darkside55]

Was that what you were practicing? I saw you online, then you signed off. That's what you were doing, huh? ;)

I'm doing the challenge modes myself right now. Some of these are pure evil.

[Sedako]

Yeah, I got up to the one where you have to pull of an EX seismic hammer, followed by a high jump immediately into a burning kick. My sore fingers needed a rest.

[Asus]

Darkside, see if you can figure this out: I'm trying to do C. Viper's challenge mode (where you have to input what it tells you to). In level 3, the 2nd combo where it asks you to do a jumping heavy kick followed directly by a heavy burning kick while still airborne... I can pull it off fine, but Dan seems to block the burning kick and it's not registering. Or maybe I'm just doing it wrong. Either way, I can't figure it out.

Edit: After about 20 minutes of trying, I finally pulled it off. Not sure how I did it, but....

I have not done C viper's trial challenges but some of the moves they ask ya to do seem pretty hard to time in order to string together. Was doing Ken's earlier to see what the challenge is all about (since I know all his moves).
The last one I did with Ken was jump H kick> M punch > H punch > M shoryuken and then canceled into a shoryureppa (super).

[Sedako]

Woo, finished all the normal challenges for C. Viper, the hard ones are a little bit intimidating for tonight.

[Dynasty]

See now I can never see games like this being a true singleplayer experience.

I mean, fighting games will always be co-op in my eyes.

Whats the appeal? I mean I know its Street Fighter which is like one of the first games I ever played, I cant see myself sitting down and playing the crap out of games like this though *confused*

[Combine Hybrid]

Ehhhhh...

http://i39.tinypic.com/2ujlh6h.jpg

NSFW once you see it. :bounce:

[Warbie]

See now I can never see games like this being a true singleplayer experience.

Single player is just for learning each character, unlockables and practising moves/combos. There's plenty of fun to be had in arcade/challenge/training modes - i've spent over 10 hours just trying to master Abel - but multiplayer is where the game shines.

Best game in ages btw :)

[Ben Shepard]

How many of you are using the standard PS3/360 pad? Im getting a MadKats pad soon, homefully will make combos easier

Also, I have a 16Meg ADSL connection with 1.2Meg upstream and I cannot connect to any player or ranked match online on my 360

When I search for a Quick Player match, I get 3 results and at first the network symbol flashes and then goes solid, but no bars next to it, does that mean its a weak connection? I can connect 1 out of 10 times like this but its very annoying.

[Bakurei]

Btw how does the match making work? Is it like in Soul calibur 4 where you press search button and get the windows saying "match full" untill you give up? Or then it was some other xbox360 game, but the idea is the same, the game would only lookup one match, try it, if it was full -> back to title screen.

[Tyguy]

why can't the world give me a break and just release goldeneye for the PC/360

please world?

anyone know where I can get a rom or whatever to play the ported version on pc? PM me if you don't mind

[Ben Shepard]

You want a ROM for the PC version of SF4? Give it a few years mate

[Tyguy]

You want a ROM for the PC version of SF4? Give it a few years mate

no, goldeneye.

[bam23]

You want a ROM for the PC version of SF4? Give it a few years mate

give it a few months cause this game is actually confirmed for pc.

[Qonfused]

I've been playing all yesterday and today. I'm really liking it, though the people I play with don't really like me... :X I can't manage to pull off the Ultra combos very well (like Ken's) because of the Xbox controller. It really is shit for this game. Having a hard time with Focus Canceling and the like as well D:

[Rico]

So would anyone recommend picking up this game if you haven't played SF since SF2 on SNES?

I'm itching for a good fighting game but I don't need one asap.

[Asus]

I have been using a PS3 dual shock pad but got a blister. hehe
Starting using the analog stick for a bit so I could still play without killing my thumb. Took me a bit to get that down with some control using my thumb. So small compared to an arcade stick.

I see amazon just got in stock the hori real arcade pro 3 (ps3). Might have to order one. ($100)

[Darkside55]

can't manage to pull off the Ultra combos very well (like Ken's) because of the Xbox controller. It really is shit for this game. Having a hard time with Focus Canceling and the like as well D:
They make us use 360 controllers for the tournament. :hmph: I find it's better to use the analog stick on that one than the Dpad. Try it out if you haven't already and see if that feels better to you. The Dpad can be testy.

hori real arcade pro 3
$100
HWAT

I might need to get one then in addition to upgrading my SE fightstick with a new joystick. Thing is so borked. Last night for a brief few minutes it was interpreting "left" as "down." It got stuck in that position.

EDIT: Hey no it's not you liar. Unless you meant a different Amazon region, because on Amazon.com this bloody thing is still $219, and I don't even see it on Amazon.co.uk.

So would anyone recommend picking up this game if you haven't played SF since SF2 on SNES?
SFIV, in my opinion, is the easiest Street Fighter to get into. You certainly won't be too handicapped if you pick up the game and start playing it, go through arcade mode and the challenges to help yourself bring your game up, and fight against people online to hone your skills.

It's a much easier from SF2 to SFIV than it was from SF2 to SF3. Even if you never played SF2, this game pretty much guides you through what you need to learn.

I definitely recommend picking it up.

Plus if you support SFIV Yoshinori Ono said that he'll consider Darkstalkers IV, so do it. Buy the game so that we can get a sequel to the real greatest Capcom fighter. :laugh:

[Asus]

Ah your right. It's back to out of stock status.
Guess I picked one up in time. ;)

[Darkside55]

Curse you! :p

Those HRAPS are one of the best sticks you can get. There's a special edition that Amazon.jp used to sell, the HRAP3 SA (special addition) that had Sanwa buttons in addition to the Sanwa stick. That one's harder to come by and more expensive, but it's real nice.

Only thing I don't quite like about the HRAPS are the way the buttons are splayed. To me, it's more suited for Tekken or Soul Calibur.

[Ben Shepard]

http://scuttle.mirror.waffleimages.com/data/files/42/42616204f336d7887b9907284d15e2af40aecbc3.png

[Warbie]

http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/1470/kenflow.png

[CyberPitz]

I was at Wal-Mart picking up a few things here and there. They didn't have SF4...I was sad.

[B_MAN]

I was at Wal-Mart picking up a few things here and there. They didn't have SF4...I was sad.

lol.. Wal-mart

[CyberPitz]

Hey, when you have diarrhea, you'd rather spend 5 minutes driving to Wal-Mart instead of driving 30 minutes to the nearest ma and pa shop.

Lucky for me, it was a slow day so we were in and out in another 5 min. 15 minutes there and back ftw.

[Darkside55]

Warbie wins.


Pitz, you're not likely to find it at Wal-Mart. If you just want the regular version of SFIV your local gamestore probably has some copies in. If you want the collector's edition...be prepared to call around.

A lot.

To every store within a two-to-three hour drive.

[CyberPitz]

**** collectors editions. I just wanna play the game. I don't wanna go fanboy on it :p

[Ben Shepard]

I've had enough of people quitting on me just when Im about to win, anyone else having this problem?

[Warbie]

More than a few times. Simply take comfort in how lame they are.

There is no more telling a victory than forcing a rage quit.

[Ben Shepard]

Indeed, what happens when they quite a Ranked Match? Do you still get some Battle Points? Also I think we should list our gametags/psn ids so we can play with each other

[Combine Hybrid]

Dan is awesome.

[MuToiD_MaN]

Warbie, that's priceless.

Dan is awesome.

Dan is my main man. Be sure to rock the Super-Taunt! And then while that's going, wait for him to attack and cancel it into his ultra. BAM!!!

[OmegaX]

Fighting games piss me off more than any other game. I think mainly because I suck at them. Today I almost took the game out and snapped it in half. The people playing SF IV online are usually ridiculously good. I have no clue how I have a 40% winning percentage.

[Qonfused]

Tomorrow is when my rental is done. I don't think I'll plan on buying it. Without other people around who are as interested in it as you, it's hard for me to justify a purchase.

[Darkside55]

The people playing SF IV online are usually ridiculously good.
people online
good
I want to post a reaction image, but I don't want you to feel bad and kill yourself or something.

You'll get better. Fighting games take a long time.

[Combine Hybrid]

Hell, I refuse to play this game any longer with analog stick. I need my fight stick...

[Ben Shepard]

Hell, I refuse to play this game any longer with analog stick. I need my fight stick...

Don't get a Mad Katz one, they are all broke

[Darkside55]

For SERIOUSZ.

If you get a Mad Catz one though, like I said, $25 Sanwa stick replacement.




Goddamn I'm so tired right now I just want to go to sleep, but I've got Round 2 of the Gamestop Nationals on Saturday. It's my friend's birthday tomorrow too, so I'll be getting some playtime in, but it won't be as much practice as I could be getting not fighting those fools. I already know all their shit.

I want to sleep right now but I'm awake watching tourney vids in one tab, SRK in another tab, Event Hub's frame data pages open in two other tabs, and I'm thinking like, "I've gotta just learn to smash people with Abel's f.MK strings before Saturday."

Want to sleep but I gotta do work, son. DO WORK.

[Ben Shepard]

[QUOTE=Darkside55;2895064]
"I've gotta just learn to smash people with Abel's f.MK strings before Saturday."
QUOTE]

Abel is my second main guy after Ken. I wanna learn him inside out and so make him my main guy, Im getting way too bored of playing Ken v Ryu on LIVE all the time

Hey Darkside55, what you think of the HORI fightsticks? I was gonna get a Mad Kats Pad but they are more expensive that the HORIs

[Darkside55]

They're good sticks. But they're expensive now; all sticks and stick parts are in high demand for SFIV. A Hori Real Arcade Pro is going to run you probably at least $180. Unless you're Asus and magically get one for $100. :laugh:


And Abel's a great character. I don't know why, really, but for some reason--even before knowing about him and his moveset--he stuck out to me in the previews. And I said to myself, "That's my main. That guy is my main."

And I was telling people that, and one of my friends said, "Provided you actually end up liking him."

It took a single round to know that I was right. Within two, three matches, it was like me and Abel had been best friends forever. He's so unlike any character I've played before, being a grappler, but I just mesh with him. Now I'm throwing people all over the place.

But I want to work on my combos. Right now my Abel is really about poking and grabbing, but Abel's the kind of character where you can rush and get your opponent scared that every move he's going to make is going to result in being combo'd or thrown. Push them into a corner and just dominate them.

Make sure you go through the challenge mode when you start off with Abel, and really work those combos they give you. You won't be learning it for the combos themselves at first, you'll be learning it for the timing. Once you get the timing in for things like f.MK > s.HP > Change of Direction, it's over. You can do so much. You'll be sitting there in challenge mode thinking, "I bet this works. I bet I can do this if I time it right."

And you'll be surprised what he can do. Everything he does is like combo madness.

And if you can't combo your opponent, get right up in their face and throw 'em. When in doubt, throw it out.

[Ben Shepard]

The reason Im getting a stick or Mad Katz pad is that I can't do Abels combos on the 360 pad, its just too hard. The c.HP followed by Change of Direction sounds easy, but on the 360 pad its damn near impossible.

Might get a Hori stick if the Mad Katz pad are'nt in stock until April

[Darkside55]

I'd recommend it. My Mad Catz is balls. My worst opponent is never the guy I'm fighting, it's this stick.



I'm gonna have to be using a 360 pad again on Saturday though.

[Bakurei]

Just got SF4, man this game is really hard. I mean just doing some basic moves with the xbox 360 controller feels impossible. In Soul Calibur 4 I never had any problems with combos. In SF4 I can't even beat the easy opponents. Maybe I should try the game with a stick.

[Warbie]

Warbie, that's priceless.

I can't take credit, it's not my creation. It does share my sentiments though!

I have to agree about Dan being the ****ing man btw :) Nothing quite beats bringing out the pink warrior to teach the Ryu/Ken/Akuma spammers a lesson in Shotokan.

(and if they win - I was Dan ffs!)

[B_MAN]

does anyone use the madcatz fightPAD? i personally prefer the d-pad and since the 360 one is crap, i'm thinkin about picking one up
they're crazy hard to find where i live though. and they're going for between 80-250(akuma) on ebay atm
either way, ive heard nothing but positive things about them so i think it's my best bet

PS. if anyone would like to go a few rounds sometime, add me on xbox live: C0RR4D0
just ID yourself as a HL2.net member!

[CyberPitz]

I really gotta pick this up this weekend..

[Dr0ndeh]

im a massive streetfighter fan and was really expecting to hate this game because the videos and especially the screenshots make it look absolutely terrible, but tbh its the best streetfighter ever (or at least pretty damn close)

its easily the most balanced ever anyway. my only gripe is some of the priorities are way off. my main is sagat and tiger knee dominates pretty much everything. out of about 150 online matches only about 10 of them had unacceptable lag so the netcode is really solid too (certainly as good as the awesome HD remix)

and the theme song is absolutely rockin' ?_+

[Bakurei]

How the heck do you beat seth in easy with a character that doesn't have long range deny? I tried seth for like 2h with abel. Usually I got to the point where I had gotten a few combos trough, he had like 3/4 health left, then he just starts teleporting, does the super, whops K.O. With Ryu this was piss easy.

[Warbie]

You have to make sure your ultras and supers connect against Seth when playing as Abel - he's rubbish at blocking these. Spamming light/punch kick when he starts spamming teleport near you works pretty well as does rolling through sonic booms.

[Dr0ndeh]

How the heck do you beat seth in easy with a character that doesn't have long range deny? I tried seth for like 2h with abel. Usually I got to the point where I had gotten a few combos trough, he had like 3/4 health left, then he just starts teleporting, does the super, whops K.O. With Ryu this was piss easy.

if youre playing it just to unlock akuma/gouken/seth just set the rounds to 1, the skill to easiest and the time to 30 seconds. that ultra combo he has takes like 10 seconds to complete and usually by then its timed out and you've won, as long as youve given him a decent amount of damage at the start (which if he has the revenge bar unlocked you probably have)

if youre doing it for skill (or the complete on hardest difficulty achievement) i'd say just get better at abel.

[Warbie]

Easiest setting? 1 round!?!

Grow some balls soldier! I literally air punched after beating Seth with Abel for the first time.

[Dr0ndeh]

Easiest setting? 1 round!?!

Grow some balls soldier! I literally air punched after beating Seth with Abel for the first time.

thats what i did to unlock the other chars, couldnt be ****ing bothered playing it through like 24 times just to unlock, so i did it in the fastest time possible.

its the easiest single player streetfighter by far, i got the 'complete on hardest' achievement without even trying.

[Warbie]

I'm finding it a load harder than the various versions of SF2 and Alpha in single player. Maybe i'm just getting old :/

[jet_porkins]

Funniest pic I've seen in a while

http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/2360/kenflow1.png

[Corp. Sheepo]

http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh278/CorpSheepo/Darkside.jpg

Fixed.

[Asus]

Playing with abel against seth I did a lot of stringed moves. Going through the trial challenges with each character helps. Goes through basic moves and also stringing moves together so they are not blocked. Also, just did a serach and found this. (http://mycheats.1up.com/view/section/3163881/25944/street_fighter_4/xbox_360#Combos) Might help.

If seth attacked with his long arms then I usually did:
(Jump) Medium Kick > (Crouch) Heavy Punch > special throw moves
or
(Jump) Medium Kick > (Crouch) Heavy Punch > change of direction > cancel into super/ultra

If he did the long range attack then I rolled in. If you are not quick you may be right next to him when he is ready for another attack and he might grab ya.
His ultra move can also go through fireballs/sonic boom etc.

[AHA-Lambda]

I didn't plan on getting this but I got it for nothing as part of an exchange when my 160GB PS3 broke just yesterday (so I haven't even been here till now).

Cos the 160GB was a limited edition that isn't made anymore in the UK they gave me the value of it on instore credit for an 80GB and extra games. So I got an 80GB PS3, killzone 2, SF4 and about another 60 quid on instore credit.

Still playing KZ2 though the now so I haven't tried this but I was always **** at SF :(

[Bakurei]

Edit: NVM found that easy wasn't the easiest setting. FAIL :D

Edit2: Tried the game online for the first time. I actually thought that image was really a joke... but it's actually true :D

This is how you play ryu online:

JUMP KICK

HADOUKEN HADOUKEN HADOUKEN HADOUKEN HaDOUKEN, JUMP, HaDOUKEN HADOUKEN HADOUKEN :D

And I thought I was bad :d

[B_MAN]

although Ryu is certainly one of my favourite chars, i really am getting sick of only fighting him and Ken online
even in alot of player matches, where there's nothing at stake, the majority of people use Ken, Ryu, Sagat, Akuma
i try to mix it up with a little Abel and Sakura action

[Bakurei]

About 30 matches played. Only ken/ryu/sagat. Only voices I hear are TIGER PUMP and Hadouken... Back to Soul Calibur, even it wasn't this bad spam :D

[Warbie]

About 30 matches played. Only ken/ryu/sagat. Only voices I hear are TIGER PUMP and Hadouken... Back to Soul Calibur, even it wasn't this bad spam :D

That's why you play with friends.

SF4 poos all over SC4 from a great height.

[Bakurei]

That's why you play with friends.

SF4 poos all over SC4 from a great height.

but... I have no friends! :'(

[bam23]

got this coming in with gamefly, bought a month membership there only cause blockbuster didnt have it anywhere :|. looking forward to getting my ass kicked online.

[Bakurei]

God arcade sticks are impossible to get. Been trying to get the Mad catz or the Hori stick for my Xbox 360 and every store just says No ETA, out of stock.

[Rico]

I got this like a week or two ago, add my gamertag and show me how to play! I'm still a noob!

Gamertag: Rico21745

[OmegaX]

Hmm I ended up winning 103 straight matches online with Zangief. Took it back to blockbuster yesterday. It was fun while it lasted.

[Corp. Sheepo]

BUMPED. This game became awesome as soon as I found this guy:

http://www.videogamesblogger.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/e-honda-in-street-fighter-4.jpg

So legitmate with this guy. I think he might by my soulmate.

[jet_porkins]

although Ryu is certainly one of my favourite chars, i really am getting sick of only fighting him and Ken online
even in alot of player matches, where there's nothing at stake, the majority of people use Ken, Ryu, Sagat, Akuma
i try to mix it up with a little Abel and Sakura action

Better to play competitively with someone you know rather than someone you don't.

Hmm I ended up winning 103 straight matches online with Zangief. Took it back to blockbuster yesterday. It was fun while it lasted.
HAHAHA

[B_MAN]

**** playing with the 360 pad is so frustrating, but i refuse to spend $80+ for a fightpad!
thankfully though, i'm still able to beat like 80% of the people i fight.. at least in player matches :P

great game though; i'm really starting to enjoy using Gouken, now that i can sorta use him properly... his counter attacks are always satisfyingly awesome :thumbs:

[Sparta]

I have no idea why, but even though i love fighting as Ryu, Ken, Akuma and even Dan, i'm just so much better fighting with someone like Abel and Cammy even though i dont like fighting with them anywhere near as much.

[MuToiD_MaN]

Dan's the man. Everyone else wishes they were as awesome, attractive, talented, and MANLY as Dan.
http://s88958877.onlinehome.us/misc/dantheman.jpg

[Darkside55]

I have no idea why, but even though i love fighting as Ryu, Ken, Akuma and even Dan, i'm just so much better fighting with someone like Abel and Cammy even though i dont like fighting with them anywhere near as much.
Stop playing shotos. Embrace Abel. EMBRACE THE TORNADO THROW

[Bakurei]

Oh btw anyone whos thinking about ordering those Mad Catz sticks, don't buy them from the friggin vultures that sell them for 200€ extra. New sticks are shipping as we speak, should be in stores at the end of this month. And a third shipment will probably come after that, so they aren't some rare collectors dream.

Now to the game. Is anyone else having this what I call position retardation. I mean when I'm at the left side, I can pull combos pretty easilly. But if I get thrown to the right side I can't even pull simple ultra's or supers. Might be that I really haven't had to learn any hard combos before. I played SC4 with pretty much basic tactics (and mash every button when drunk). :D

[Sparta]

Stop playing shotos. Embrace Abel. EMBRACE THE TORNADO THROW

I dont know what shotos means?

Either way, i've embraced Cammy and i can dominate with her so that works out well.

[Darkside55]

Bakurei, you've probably got a "favored side." Everybody has them initially. Always seems like you can do one thing (or a few things) easier facing one direction than another. You get over it with practice...eventually it all becomes muscle memory.

I dont know what shotos means?
"Shoto" - short for "shotokan," as in shotokan karate, which everyone mistakenly thinks Ryu, Ken, Akuma, and Gouken practiced. In reality it's ansatsuken, a fictional style, but the term "shoto" stuck. It's also applied to characters like Sakura and Dan, even though Sakura's untrained and Dan uses saikyo.

The term has negative connotations; "shotoscrub," "shotofag," etc. In part because the characters are easy mode, and also because everyone picks them (even before Ken Fighter IV, everyone picked the shotos). These characters have a stigma on them.

Anyway, Cammy's cool. She's no Abel, though. ;)

[B_MAN]

Stop playing shotos. Embrace Abel. EMBRACE THE TORNADO THROW

ya Abel is awesome. especially since alot of people have a hard time playing AGAINST him
do you have any tips/good combos to recommend?

[MuToiD_MaN]

ya Abel is awesome. especially since alot of people have a hard time playing AGAINST him
do you have any tips/good combos to recommend?

The rising elbow launch is god.

[Warbie]

The most important things to know about Abel are that his ultra and ex wheel kick go through fireballs - making him the shoto (especially Ryu) killer - and that forwards medium kick is fast, has crazy reach, and helps you dictate the fight. As B-Man mentioned, duck fierce punch launches ppl into the air allowing you to air grab or wheel kick them. After you focus hit someone dash in quickly and tornado throw or just perform a quick ultra. Rolling followed by tornado is obviously good :)

Abel has been my favourite charatcer since day one, he's a ****ing beast!

[B_MAN]

ya i use the jump in-medium kick to rising elbow launch+air grab alot
still trying to master the focus-dash-tornado throw though... kinda hard with the 360 dpad :P
i actually have a big grin on my face every time someone chooses ryu or ken whenever i'm using Abel cause they never expect the roll through fireballs/wheel kick :)

[Darkside55]

i actually have a big grin on my face every time someone chooses ryu or ken
"Good sir, I see after you have moved the cursor around the select screen in a random fashion for ten seconds, pretending as if you will pick someone to counter my Abel, you have inevitably landed on Ryu/Ken/Sagat. If you are a novice, which I assume you are, you are likely to try the same hurricane/tiger knee-into-uppercut combination, lots of jumping backwards to avoid me, and perhaps a few mistimed ultra attacks. If you are a moderate-to-experienced player, you will likely try to zone me out with fireballs, use your normals to poke at me, and try to get some crossover combos of opportunity or try to bait me into using an unsafe move, and then punish me.

To you I say: give up. There is nothing you can do against me. You have already lost this fight.

P.S., if you have chosen Akuma and you think you can use his keep-away game on me, you're already dead."

Abel is the beastliest character in the game. If you use Abel as a rushdown character, using his f.MK --> dash, as Warbie said you can dictate the fight. You can scare the hell out of people with that, comboing with fierce punch or conditioning them to think you're going to throw out that fierce, and dash right up to their face and tornado throw. J.MK crossovers into c.FP, cancel that first elbow hit into change of direction...and just go wild.

And if you want you can just sit back and turtle for awhile against certain characters.

Shotos spamming fireballs at you? Focus cancel and build meter, and then once you have ultra hit 'em with it from full screen. I love when they don't realize his ultra can hit them from the entire screen away when they're in the fireball animation (before the fireball actually leaves their hands).

Abel is the greatest.

[Bakurei]

Abel is a beast. Currently using abel as my main. Just learning how to do the focus cancel moves in fights. Usually I just press forward too many times and get nothing done, or get beaten (PANIC!). But my to be main is 100% Dhalsim, god I love this dude. Pretty defensive character but can deal out massive damage in short time, teleport, combo, super then ultra, teleport and kick the guy in to the ultra. Pure madness :D

[Darkside55]

Dang, it's a pity we're on different systems. I'd like to play your Dhalsim. He's a knee-slapper to play/play against; mainly because whenever my friends and I are together Dhalsim gets stereotypical Indian-voice commentary, with dubbed-over move names like "Slurpee Punch."

He's an awesome character though, and ultra --> teleport is madness.

[MuToiD_MaN]

He's an awesome character though, and ultra --> teleport is madness.

Madness?
http://s88958877.onlinehome.us/misc/leonidas-ponder.jpg

I should learn Dhalsim. I love comical characters who don't get picked often and it's hard to tell what the hell they're doing. That's why I play (a custom, non-hardgay) Voldo in SC4.

[Qonfused]

Hardgay Voldo is inescapable.

[MuToiD_MaN]

Hardgay Voldo is inescapable.

Relevant. I couldn't not make this edit.
http://s88958877.onlinehome.us/misc/leonidas-voldo.jpg

Thank God my main in SFIV is so manly ...

[bam23]

when playing as abel i always did an ex falling sky when i went for an ultra, boned me plenty. i only have a 360 controller though.

game was a fun rental, maybe i'll buy it with some spare cash.

[Darkside55]

Alright so how many of you have this on PSTriple? Only guy I've got added is Sedako.

EmperorDarkside

add me

get tornado thrown

[B_MAN]

360 here
add C0RR4D0 for a beatdown

[Sparta]

Im starting to like Gouken now as well. Especially his floating punch that allows him to move through fireballs and can knock people into the air with the EX version. Is nice.

[Bakurei]

Gouken is pretty fun. I've been playing with it alot too. Oh and when you play with abel you just have to use rolling juggle. Roll, down hp, roll, down hp, WHIII.

[Bakurei]

oooh shi. Guys when the move has that Z motion on the image does that mean it's like front-leftdown-front or is it front-down-frontright. I've been doing the moves with the last method. Maybe this is the reason I've had like 50-70% success rate with these moves...

[Darkside55]

Forward, down, down-forward.

[bam23]

in other words...

SHORYUKEN!

[Danimal]

Wait, wait, wait.

Street Fighter has a storyline?

[Bakurei]

Hi I'm sumo, I make sumo famous. Okay I'm back, another sumo says you no come back, okay I beat them up and go to olympics. WAT!

Shitdwang challenges are hard on those charge chars. Like bison etc. I've gotten pretty much all challenges done on non-charge chars. I'm really starting to love Ken and Ruy players. "you no come to my shoryuken? no? please? not even let my random ultra hit? okay I dc *insert sadface*"

[MuToiD_MaN]

I'm really starting to love Ken and Ruy players. "you no come to my shoryuken? no? please? not even let my random ultra hit? okay I dc *insert sadface*"

Rage-quits: First time it happened I was like :flame: but these days I'm more like :naughty: because I realize that as mad as I am, they're the one who actually quit on me :)

[Bakurei]

http://www.eventhubs.com/news/2009/mar/30/epic-fail-premature-celebration/

[Darkside55]

Foolish. Make sure you connect, THEN do your victory pose.

I'm guilty of hitting people with a finishing blow and turning around before it hits, though. Something's just so satisfying about knowing it will connect, and then turning away from your opponent as if you won't even give them the pleasure of looking at them as they fall.

[MuToiD_MaN]

Total animated samurai finishing slash style.

Also, epic fail. And that Sagat didn't deserve to win anyway; he was outclassed and was lucky to have been given the opportunity he did.

[bam23]

so any of you abel junkies got any tips for playing a better abel? all my moves keep getting out prioritized and i have a hard time getting a hit in

people keep jumping away, stuff like that :(

[Warbie]

Look a page or two back, Bam. Abel tips aplenty.


Chun Li glitch that makes her god-tier:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbVROz9isl0&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fntsc-uk.domino.org%2Fshowthread.php%3Ft%3D93888%26page%3D143&feature=player_embedded

[bam23]

this is my first street fighter so i have no idea about the mechanics about the game. so, i've literally lost to about every ken tonight. their srk was beating out a lot of the things i was trying. when i'd go for a punish, they'd srk again and knock my balls off. and i actually played one that managed a jump kick to sweep thing that he repeated over and over till i was ko'd, and he got a perfect. enlighten me! it's the most frustrating thing. i dont have as much trouble fighting anyone else but ken or ryu. ****ers./

[B_MAN]

it's all about being patient imo
most fighters out there, especially the novices playing Ryu and Ken, will continue to make the first move (even if it's a fireball in the corner), allowing you to counter with whatever fits each situation
so, make it look like you're coming in to grab and let them do their shoryuken. once they hit the ground, grab them with your tornado throw (assuming you're Abel!). or if you see them repeating moves like the jump kick+sweep, simply BLOCK or better yet, focus attack and then dash+tornado throw
don't be afraid to BLOCK BLOCK BLOCK.

[Darkside55]

Jump kick? Standing MK, or crouching FP, or falling sky if they haven't thrown out the kick yet. You can also just block the hit and tornado throw. You'll get them before they have a chance to do anything. Sweep? Block, punish with cr.MP -> CoD, or any one of his crouching combos.

If they're standing there throwing fireballs at you, use FADC to build meter, then just empty jump and let them come to you. Or hit those idiots with ultra from full screen.

Shoryuken you really should be able to get off tornado throw at all times before they throw another uppercut. You can also punish with combos or knock them down and go for a crossover.

[Bakurei]

I've started to play a lot with Gouken. Only char I have trouble against is Sagat... I mean this guy makes 2xHK and BAM 50% HP gone... Just so sick, you only need to do like two moves and whii we has winrar.

But yea against Ryu, Ken just block a lot. You could for instance start with a roll, and just go to block right away. If it's a normal idiot ken/ryu he'll go for the srk, block that and you're easy off. Against these guys I tend not to use any ex moves. I'll just punish with cod and super when they srk. And in the early levels if they do that whirl kick (forgot name), especially if ken does this don't try to punish after it, keep blocking, 80% of the time srk will come and then you can punish.

One thing I've really been mad about lately is the fact that like 60% of the games are way too laggy. Press up -> go get some coffee -> come back -> he's about to jump.

I just had the most fun against some bad akuma player. He first did random super (maybe he thought I didn't know I can just jump over it), I jumped over that and he went straight to ultra and I again jumped over that. NO - NO - PUNISH.

[MuToiD_MaN]

I just had the most fun against some bad akuma player. He first did random super (maybe he thought I didn't know I can just jump over it), I jumped over that and he went straight to ultra and I again jumped over that. NO - NO - PUNISH.

Best defense against Akuma's supers: Dan's ultra. He hits 'em right in the freakin' FACE at 0:59 seconds.
(too bad the round ends before the damage gets done :() (also too bad that time cues don't work in these embedded videos :()
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSTcoOjziCg#t=0m59s

[CyberPitz]

Sooo, I think I'm finally going to pick this up either tonight or sometime soon....PS3 here, name CyberPitz. ADD ME!

[Laivasse]

Any word on when the PC version is coming out?

[Warbie]

Check out the zangief goodness :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23GCBdIYyBc&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fntsc-uk.domino.org%2Fshowthread.php%3Ft%3D93888%26page%3D145&feature=player_embedded

[Laivasse]

PHAINARU, ATOMEEEK, BASTAAARD! Now I have the Zangief theme in my head, that is a bangin ch00n'.

[B_MAN]

Check out the zangief goodness :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23GCBdIYyBc&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fntsc-uk.domino.org%2Fshowthread.php%3Ft%3D93888%26page%3D145&feature=player_embedded

lawl i hate Zangief

[bam23]

woo, doing a little better now against them shotos. i figured playing wrecklessly against them isnt such a good idea since shoryuken priority is the tits, and getting more used to punishing whiffed shoryukens with FA3 > fierce tornado throw or ultra/super. still havent really found a way to put the f.mk or tornado throw into regular use yet, most of the players on ranked have been jumping away for the whole match so i've had to use FA as a punish to crumple them first x(

also doing the 5th hard trial for abel right now, its a turd.

[Bakurei]

I've finally gotten all the normal challenges done. Abel's fifth hard trial is a bitch, mk + dash + hp seems to have insane timing. I've been able to do it like 30% of the time...

Btw how many battle points you guys have? I'm really getting bored since finding a players that actually know how to play are hard to find... Only thing I find are beginers and srk spammers... The matchmaking seems pretty dull. Even thou I got 1500 points it puts me against players with 0-200 points... Takes some time to get more points since I get like 10-20 per match.

Second thing I decided to do is refuse to play against Fagot, I mean Sagat players. I mean I wouldn't mind if the players actually had learned something nice with the character but no. 99% of fagot players just spam two moves... And sagats damage seems way too high. He hit's 150 with normal hk, thats like the same dmg gouken does with his ex moves...

[B_MAN]

i'm at about 1900 BP right now... try putting search priority to "same skill" if you haven't already

but ya Sagat is ridiculously overpowered
i'll still fight him though, cause i like the challenge :P

congrats finishing the challenges Bak
i have refused to do any of the hard trials until i get a new pad/stick; it's just too frustrating with the 360 dpad

[bam23]

i float around 600-900. be jealous.

i havent played anything else but abels hard trial 5 for the last few days now, determined to get this ****er right. got all the way to the last step and my timing choked :( :( :(

[Bakurei]

I have the search priority set to more skilled... Maybe the matchmaking is just bugged.

I want my mad catz street fighta stick :<

[Darkside55]

So, I'm at a friend's, having the chance to play against people on Xbawks Live. People on here suck serious dick. Like no joke. This controller is f'ing terrible; it's not like it's the first time I used it or anything (had to use them in the GameSpot Nationals), but seriously, even with this piece of junk I haven't lost a single match in hours. I went from 0 BP to 2000 in like two hours. People on Live are goddamn terrible.

360 version of SFIV has superior graphics, but the competition compared to PSN is like fighting against children. Little children. Little children who do not have arms, they have stumps. Stumps that they cannot play video games with, so they have to hit the controller with their noses and push the buttons with their tongues.

Anyone from HL2.net up and playing right now on 360?

[Bakurei]

Pretty much only thing you can find are spammers or random mashers on xbox live. And getting 20bp per match isn't that awsome. Hopefully the tournament dlc coming soon will change this. OR NOT.

[B_MAN]

tournament DLC?

[Bakurei]

It's a free dlc to sf4. It'll change the online portition, new lobby, point system change. There will be two different ladders one with tournament points and one with other. And something else I can't remember now.

[bam23]

falling sky needs a command change...

NAO!

ex falling sky is my biggest enemy when going for quick-executed ultras. make it qcb+p or something.

[Darkside55]

If it was qcb+P then tornado throw would have to be changed.

[Sparta]

Man, playing this game on Xbox Live from Australia is absolutely shit. The best games I can find have the second lowest possible connection rating (one red bar) with most not even showing the bar. Even then when i try playing any of those games its like playing with lead balls attached to your character as every move takes longer to perform and in order to play the game well you need clairvoyancy.

I got no complaints getting my assed wupped by my brother when playing next to him, but losing to some ****head spamming Tiger Punch over and over and over again when the game wont let me pull off any of those "passing through" type moves because of the difference in lag, its ridiculous.

[B_MAN]

falling sky needs a command change...

NAO!

ex falling sky is my biggest enemy when going for quick-executed ultras. make it qcb+p or something.

lol i know exactly how you feel
although the fierce elbow launch+ex falling sky still does a considerable amount of damage, so it's not all bad

[bam23]

so, after days and hours of failing over and over and over, i finally completed abel's 5th trial.

i wanted to scream, but all i could do was stare.

i was that satisfied with myself. my thumb is sore, my wrist is throbbing, my eyes are burning, **** that, those abel icons are finally mine. if abel's challenges were any indication of the difficulty, i am never doing anyone else's challenges from now on.

[CyberPitz]

I really wish some of you would record your games so I can watch and hopefully learn how to play this better. I played Arcade on Easy, and it took me at least 10 tries on the final boss.

[bam23]

if you wanna get better at this game, don't play the cpu. it's cheap, falls for the same moves over and over, and develops bad habits. jump online, accept the fact that you'd probably lose a shit-ton and learn from the losses.

so i finally broke the 1000bp milestone as abel (repping my new abel cartoon block head icon woop woop), but it was pretty bumpy.

[B_MAN]

if you wanna get better at this game, don't play the cpu. it's cheap, falls for the same moves over and over, and develops bad habits. jump online, accept the fact that you'd probably lose a shit-ton and learn from the losses.

so i finally broke the 1000bp milestone as abel (repping my new abel cartoon block head icon woop woop), but it was pretty bumpy.

i agree
forget about play the cpu
player vs player is the best way to learn

[CyberPitz]

Well, I got utterly slaughtered against Darkside....but we think we may have found me a character I can be good at :E

[Sparta]

Sagat is so extremely overpowered it breaks the game. He has the fastest fireball and can pull off a shoryuken as soon as he lands on the ground just like all the shotos characters, except his damage is about twice as much as any of those. Its absolutely ridiculous, and gamebreakingly terrible.

This comes from me having won 10 straight games of 3 round matches as Sagat against my brother. Its ridiculous.