Red Alert 3

[Mutley]

I got the game today and I love it so much. :D

The campaign is really good fun, a nice story and strong atmosphere. You can play any level as a Coop too with a friend, if you don't play it as a Coop an AI commander takes their place (who has their own personality/videos during the level).

Lots of Skirmish maps and when I finish the 3 Campaigns it's time for some multiplayer action. The graphics and sounds (music!) are spot on, some of the best animations I've seen in a strategy and a noticeable step up from the public Beta.

And yey, Tim Curry! Really feels like a true Red Alert sequel.

[Naph]

Can you upgrade units/tech?

If you say yes.

All red alert 3 fans have boarded the fail boat.

[Mutley]

Nope. The units gain ranks (just like RA2). But you can't upgrade them with more powers or whatever.

There is commander unlocks like Generals where you unlock them with points but it fits well with the gameplay (like Super Weapons and stuff) - makes it a little more interesting too as everyone can pick up a more varied way of playing in my opinion.

[Naph]

Good, now I'll wait until EA removes its head out of its arse.

[Gray Fox]

Menu laggs so much for me, I get a black screen for minutes on end.
Also camera is to close imo.

[Mutley]

Not sure why you would care about EA's involvement, lol.

Menu laggs so much for me, I get a black screen for minutes on end.
Also camera is to close imo.

I had the same menu problem but once I set it to my desktop resolution it solved it.

[Remus]

Can you upgrade units/tech?

If you say yes.

All red alert 3 fans have boarded the fail boat.

And if it did have upgrades? So what?

True, Red Alert 2 didn't have that, but what's the problem?

[Jintor]

You're all maggots. It's not out until the 6th.

[hot564231]

I did buy the game, but the online activation shit annoyed me considering my new pc is offline, i went to the bad places and got a fix for that,

[Naph]

And if it did have upgrades? So what?

True, Red Alert 2 didn't have that, but what's the problem?

If the idea of upgradeless units carried on for two games in the one series, I'd expect that westwood would have stayed the same. They are smart.

I loved RTS as a kid but it turned over when I tried other games different to Red Alert 2, I always thought I'd be good at other RTS because of my pro ability in RA2. Wasn't the case when I was very young when I tried out SC and got completely confused about the additives.
More so of an aged realization for me I guess, finding out that the hard facts of having # of units compared to the more complex way in with the numerous upgrades were completely different concepts for me.

The game was good because it was basic; and this for me is what made it one of my favourite games to play: it was fun as ****.

The comment was aimed at the makers, wondering if they made Red Alert 3 what it should be: actually following a game tradition. OH HI BLIZZARD!

[Mutley]

Anyone tried a Skirmish against Hard/Medium? Holy crap the amount of units that can be on screen at once. Me and my Ally had about 50 Twinblade helicopters in the air at one point, lol. Loads of fun, they've increased the scale or it for sure. Some great maps too, from tiny to huugeee.

Also I found the camera view for the Campaign is closer than in Skirmish? Maybe it's done deliberately until you need to see more of the battlefield (early in the campaign you only get set near-by objectives).

[Gray Fox]

nvm game crashed cause I was being a stupid.

[ríomhaire]

Having to have an AI ally sounds shite.
A: If I have to babysit it that would suck entirely
B: When I play I often like to take my time and experiment with the level and enemy. It would be really annoying if I was messing about and my ally kept getting in the way by attacking the enemies I was messing about with or completely an objective I didn't want done yet.

[Gray Fox]

They do suck, they continually keep attacking and getting their asses kicked, while in the mean time
draining your funds, they can also make you fail at bonus objectives by capturing buildings you had to
capture before you. And you can't recapture them cause they be your allies.

[Remus]

Well... sounds like I won't be playing the campaign then... I hate sidekicks.

[Gray Fox]

Yes you will.
Besides simply go online and play with a real person.
Play with a drunken Cyberpitz or something.
Also, yes you will.

[Mutley]

They aren't too bad, you can give them commands that over-ride them. I'd prefer if they just supported you rather then went for the objectives.

The Coop ability is golden though.

[Lucid]

Wait, so in the campaign mode you're forced to play with an ally? :|

[Gray Fox]

They aren't too bad, you can give them commands that over-ride them. I'd prefer if they just supported you rather then went for the objectives.

The Coop ability is golden though.

Yes, but you have to give them constantly, you can't just have them hold ground.
You can let them go somewhere, but once their base gets attacked they will come back and
instead of returning to where you put them they will go get themselves killed.

[ríomhaire]

Wait, so in the campaign mode you're forced to play with an ally? :|
Yes :|

[Kyorisu]

It's a co-op campaign and you're crying because you don't have a person to play with? Fail harder.

[ríomhaire]

I've always played C&C for SP.

[Gray Fox]

I like being able to play on my own, without internet, whenever I want, and have a fun time without
anyone else when I play a CnC campaign. I do not want to have to wait for my friends to get it, I want to
be able to come back 5 years down the line when hardly anyone else is playing and still have fun.
I have a lot of trouble doing that in this game, as the AI is constantly ****ing draining my resources to
zero.

At the end of a match the ally will have made 300 units, of whom 200 died, while I will have made 100 of
whom 20 have died. I can somewhat control the ally by giving him orders to come protect me as I will
inevitably have not enough units to do so myself at the later missions.
But I cannot control what units he has, I cannot control his tactics. So no artying the enemy base, with
protector units waiting nearby the arty out of the enemy range, for example. It's like playing with a
retarded 4 year old that just keeps clicking the build buttons randoms as fast as it can.

Right now I've given up on the campaign, and I'm just gonna wait till some of my friends get the game,
then hope they are at the mission I am, are willing to play, and are behind their computer at the same
time as I am. And then get frustrated when they don't give any shit either and just keep behaving like
mongoloids, or **** around wit me on purpose for shits and giggles.

[Eejit]

Yo I'll be getting the game tomorrow, if one of you guys want to co-op a campaign from the start with me send me a PM at some point.

[Kyorisu]

Gray Fox. Give it enough time and hopefully they'll sort the AI out. In the mean time PLAY WITH A GOD DAMN HUMAN. Also your friends suck, get new ones.

[nurizeko]

I absolutely love Red Alert 2.





But RA3 aint going near my disc drive while EA is on the front of the case.

[Hectic Glenn]

Damn you people with this game already D: Really looking forward to getting it, kirov airships still in? *prays*

[Mutley]

WTF is with this EA boycotting? Who cares?

[Mutley]

Damn you people with this game already D: Really looking forward to getting it, kirov airships still in? *prays*

Oh yesch! And as badass as ever.

[Remus]

Is anyone else experiencing random "hey let's all retreat to the construction yard" syndrome? WTF, it's pissing me the hell off right now.

[Gray Fox]

Also http://www.conquerthislife.com/

[Jintor]

So awesome.

"You might even buy 9 copies! And if you do, you should at least seriously consider it."

[ríomhaire]

Gray Fox. Give it enough time and hopefully they'll sort the AI out. In the mean time PLAY WITH A GOD DAMN HUMAN. Also your friends suck, get new ones.
I have no internet connection 5 days a week except on university computers. On the weekends I have dial-up. I have all other C&C games bar SS and KW and I can fully play all of them on my own. Why the hell can't I with this one?

[Eejit]

... you can. The AI isn't bad from what I've seen. Also in the missions i've played my allies destroying or capturing structures count towards the objectives for me.

[TCfromBN]

I really want to play this... But it's going to be a long long time until I'm able to.

[Kyorisu]

I have no internet connection 5 days a week except on university computers. On the weekends I have dial-up. I have all other C&C games bar SS and KW and I can fully play all of them on my own. Why the hell can't I with this one?

You can the AI is fine Grey Fox is spreading lies. I've played with the AI and it's perfectly capable of handling itself.

They do suck, they continually keep attacking and getting their asses kicked, while in the mean time
draining your funds

Money is split 50/50 the AI only wastes it's own money.

they can also make you fail at bonus objectives by capturing buildings you had to
capture before you. And you can't recapture them cause they be your allies.

From what I've seen if the AI captures the objective it still counts. You might be talking about capturing buildings you need to destroy but I've never seen the AI send an engineer to anything but Oil derreck type buildings and specific objective capture buildings.

[Gray Fox]

I'm not spreading lies the AI is dumb and hardly capable. I don't know at what difficulty you're playing
but at Hard the AI will hardly do anything but defend itself. And sometimes it will fail at that.

The money is indeed spread 50/50, that was my mistake .

And No it does not always count, in the mission where you have to capture 5 banks in Geneva the AI
captured 2 of those and I couldn't complete the bonus objective. It does count with a main objective.

[Eejit]

I did that exact same mission Gray Fox, the allied AI capturing them counted for me. Are you sure the enemy didn't recapture the banks? That happened with a couple in my game and I had to take them back again.


Obviously the AI will be comparitavely less capable on Hard mode... otherwise it wouldn't be hard now would it? If you could just turtle and let an awesome AI fight your mission for you there wouldn't be any challenge.

[Ravioli]

The following questions will deterimine if i should get the game:

1.Are there mamoth tanks? (apocalypse tanks whatev)
2. Are there tesla coils?
3. Are there prism towers?
4. Are there V2 rockets?
5. Do the soviet infantry reply with the same level of awesomeness as in RA 1 and 2 ?

[Eejit]

Yes to the first 4.
5 is subjective.

[Lucid]

The following questions will deterimine if i should get the game:

1.Are there mamoth tanks? (apocalypse tanks whatev)Yes.
2. Are there tesla coils?Yes.
3. Are there prism towers?Yes.
4. Are there V2 rockets?Yes.
5. Do the soviet infantry reply with the same level of awesomeness as in RA 1 and 2 ?Don't remember how they sounded in RA2.

Answered.
Also, the co-commander is pretty useful.
They're not absolutely braindead, but I do hate how you split resources.

[Remus]

OK, Huston we have a problem...
Reached the fourth mission with the soviets, and when it's done instead of starting the next cut scene, it kicks me to windows :/
Started the Allied campaign, and same thing, fourth mission completed kick to windows... :|

[Eejit]

Answered.
Also, the co-commander is pretty useful.
They're not absolutely braindead, but I do hate how you split resources.

Splitting resources is fine with me since (from what I've played) they give you at least twice the amount of ore mines between you as they would do otherwise - when compared to starting locs in skirmish maps.

[Kyorisu]

OK, Huston we have a problem...
Reached the fourth mission with the soviets, and when it's done instead of starting the next cut scene, it kicks me to windows :/
Started the Allied campaign, and same thing, fourth mission completed kick to windows... :|

Pirate. It's a known issue with Reloaded's release of the game you need a crackfix by them. But yeah now we all know you don't have a legitimate version.

[Remus]

Pirate. It's a known issue with Reloaded's release of the game you need a crackfix by them. But yeah now we all know you don't have a legitimate version.

Cough, cough

http://forums.ea.com/mboards/thread.jspa?threadID=456425&tstart=30&start=0

Kind of odd then that EA would allow a fix for a problem that occurs only on cracked versions of the game to still exist on THEIR forums...

[Hectic Glenn]

That isn't an official fix by them. So Remus is a pirate ey? I must remember this...

[Lucid]

Jesus Christ, Japan is a c*nt to fight against.
That Yuriko Omega bitch is so god damn cheap it isn't even funny.

[Eejit]

I dunno, Japan does decent damage but a lot of their units are pretty squishy.

[Gray Fox]

I like the allied bombers.

[Eejit]

So... nobody's up for playing some co-op?

Screw you guys!

[Kyorisu]

Cough, cough

http://forums.ea.com/mboards/thread.jspa?threadID=456425&tstart=30&start=0

Kind of odd then that EA would allow a fix for a problem that occurs only on cracked versions of the game to still exist on THEIR forums...

It's not breaking any forum rules now is it? They can't do shit about that thread without looking like complete tards.

[TCfromBN]

What's the verdict? Does it live up to the awesomeness that was RA2?

[Lucid]

Not by a long shot, but it is fun on its own.

[Seppo]

Become a better person, control your life and play the amazing new RTS game Red Alert 3 from Electronic Arts. Learn from the best, the international superstar David Hasselhoff!

http://www.conquerthislife.com/

[Hectic Glenn]

Yeah that is pretty funny, but posted on page 2.

Also http://www.conquerthislife.com/
I've forgotten about this game with L4D's release. I should go and buy it.

[Jintor]

Japan's versatility is annoying to battle. God damn.

/EDIT Lucid is lying, it's definitely a worthy successor.

[CyberPitz]

Yes you will.
Besides simply go online and play with a real person.
Play with a drunken Cyberpitz or something.
Also, yes you will.

I'm only here to comment on this.

Thank you.

[Seppo]

Yeah that is pretty funny, but posted on page 2

Oh...oh, god dammit. And I was absolutely sure that I'm the first one to post it.

[hot564231]

Finished all factions, and the allies ending was lul worthly

President Hoff!

[Lucid]

Japan's versatility is annoying to battle. God damn.

/EDIT Lucid is lying, it's definitely a worthy successor.

Whatever you say chief.

[hot564231]

too short thought.

[Jintor]

Dunno. Missions take forever. "BATTLEFIELD EXPANDED" Ffffffffffffffffffff

The campaigns are lacking a sense of coherency like RA1 and 2 had, probably because I have no real clue how the rest of the war effort is going. Some maps would have been nice. I think somebody else mentioned this.

[hot564231]

I'm thinking they made extra footage you know, so when it comes to the add on, it was done and dusted.

Also I believe the Empires ending was the next forward to an addon. Dr. Zelinsky's Timed Revenge or something

[G(ordon)-man]

This game rox my sox!!

[Jintor]

This game is incredible amounts of fun.

[kirovman]

Japan is Yuri.

[Jintor]

Just finished the Allied missions. So ****ing hilarious.

Tim Curry overacting, at his best.

Shouldn't you update your kirov icon, kirovman?

[G(ordon)-man]

Japan is Yuri? Did i miss something? :D

[Jintor]

They're all lesbians.

[kirovman]

Just finished the Allied missions. So ****ing hilarious.

Tim Curry overacting, at his best.

Shouldn't you update your kirov icon, kirovman?

Yes I should. I'm looking for a suitable alternative.

Tim Curry is hilarious, I always remember him as the Home Alone 2 hotel concierge.

[Mutley]

"Kirov Reporting!"
"If only Lenin could see us now!"

:D

Anyone play online much? Add me: nicksource (In chat: /friend nicksource)

Would like a good buddy to do 2v2s.

[Dalamari]

Does each campaign take place over the same section of time? I kinda wish they'd follow eachother, was odd starting the allied campaign and getting attacked by General Krukov

[Eejit]

Anyone play online much? Add me: nicksource (In chat: /friend nicksource)

Would like a good buddy to do 2v2s.

Haven't played online at all, but want to do some missions co-op. I think I added you... 1eejit

[ríomhaire]

Does each campaign take place over the same section of time? I kinda wish they'd follow eachother, was odd starting the allied campaign and getting attacked by General Krukov
In every C&C game (bar Generals) the campaigns take place over the same timeframe. In almost all of them (Firestorm being the only full exception to this) the campaigns have different stories, ie, if you play the Nod campaign Nod win the war and if you play the GDI campaign GDI win the war.

[kirovman]

In every C&C game (bar Generals) the campaigns take place over the same timeframe. In almost all of them (Firestorm being the only full exception to this) the campaigns have different stories, ie, if you play the Nod campaign Nod win the war and if you play the GDI campaign GDI win the war.

I did notice some common associations in the storylines.

Like when the soviet scientist defects to the allies. That seems to happen in both the Allied and Empire campaigns.

[hot564231]

In every C&C game (bar Generals) the campaigns take place over the same timeframe. In almost all of them (Firestorm being the only full exception to this) the campaigns have different stories, ie, if you play the Nod campaign Nod win the war and if you play the GDI campaign GDI win the war.


Gonna point out your wrong on this, CnC3 did the same thing as Firestorm, Nod lost the war in there campaign but gain they're goal.

[Jintor]

The last Allied mission is made for me by Tim Curry's frienzied, gloating, hilariously B-Grade expression as he reveals his master grand plan.

MAJOR SPOILER ALERT

"I am going to escape into the one place UNTOUCHED by Capitalism...! ...SPACE!1!11!1!!!"

[ríomhaire]

Gonna point out your wrong on this, CnC3 did the same thing as Firestorm, Nod lost the war in there campaign but gain they're goal.
Except that there are contradictions between the C&C3 campaigns. Whether or not the Mothership (and therefore, the foreman) was destroyed, the Scrin Tiberium thingy that kills all the Scrin when destroyed. Even within the GDI campaign there are two options. The use of the Tiberium bomb or not.

On the other hand in Firestorm the only small contradiction is that you don't ever see the other faction attacking CABAL's core, although it's implied that the other faction is fighting on the other side of the core but just don't make it to the final battle.

[Jintor]

So this game is, like, possibly the greatest game bar Left 4 Dead to come out this year and I'm hearing nobody talk about it. What's wrong with you people? Are you all brain-dead?

[Gray Fox]

It's good but not that good, why do you have the hots for it.

And don't give me some lame short clinical explanation. I want ****ing passion, i want to hear about how
it made you feel, what you thought of the characters, what cool things you did, cool strategies and tactics
you used, funny stories with co-op, whatever.

[Jintor]

Well, in short, the entire game is about having fun.

I guess a lot of it stems from the fact that it is an RTS and it uses live action and whatnot so it doesn't have to worry about absurd voice acting and stuff. But a ridiculous sense of fun just permeates pretty much the entire thing, in the silly things the conscripts say to the gung-ho all-or-nothing nature of the American President to how seriously the Japanese take themselves. It's a game that recognizes that is it is a game and just goes all out to make everything as fun to play and hilarious as possible.

Cutscenes are hilariously B-Grade and all the actors know it. Everybody overacts to the hilt, especially Tim Curry as Premiere Cherdenko, and the game is so much better because of it.

It's basically just the epitome of B-grade sheer <i>fun</i>.

[Lucid]

By the middle of the Allied campaign, I was bored to tears and quit playing it. :|

Might resume playing at a later date.

[Asuka]

The last Allied mission is made for me by Tim Curry's frienzied, gloating, hilariously B-Grade expression as he reveals his master grand plan.

MAJOR SPOILER ALERT

"I am going to escape into the one place UNTOUCHED by Capitalism...! ...SPACE!1!11!1!!!"

I was LMFAO when i was playing that mission.

[ríomhaire]

Well, in short, the entire game is about having fun.

I guess a lot of it stems from the fact that it is an RTS and it uses live action and whatnot so it doesn't have to worry about absurd voice acting and stuff. But a ridiculous sense of fun just permeates pretty much the entire thing, in the silly things the conscripts say to the gung-ho all-or-nothing nature of the American President to how seriously the Japanese take themselves. It's a game that recognizes that is it is a game and just goes all out to make everything as fun to play and hilarious as possible.

Cutscenes are hilariously B-Grade and all the actors know it. Everybody overacts to the hilt, especially Tim Curry as Premiere Cherdenko, and the game is so much better because of it.

It's basically just the epitome of B-grade sheer <i>fun</i>.
You mention nothing of gameplay.

[CyberPitz]

The gameplay is what ruins it for me....it's bland as hell.

[Jintor]

It's typical RTS, polished to a shiny shiny edge. But it's still typical RTS.

Intense micro needed.

[Kyorisu]

Intense micro needed.

This is a common misconception. I don't beat people because I have better micro I beat people because I use common sense. Scout your opponents, plan your attacks to counter theirs and strike at the right time.

[Gray Fox]

^vindi rusher tbh

[Kyorisu]

Too many people leave themselves wide open by not scouting.

[Jintor]

This is a common misconception. I don't beat people because I have better micro I beat people because I use common sense. Scout your opponents, plan your attacks to counter theirs and strike at the right time.

Intense micro + common sense needed.

Surely that common sense right there is part of micro right?

Maybe I just misunderstand micro.

[Kyorisu]

Micro usually equates to a high number of actions per minute. I'm slow at RTS and still don't have any problems winning.

[Mutley]

I've only really seen one guy micro, he was on my team in a 2v2 and wow did he kick ass, was like playing with a Brutal computer.

It's just about learning the hot keys I guess, the few seconds at the start where you build your base is always important to slam down the buildings as quickly as possible.

[Eejit]

Micro is most important for Japan, probably least important for Soviets.

[Jintor]

Getting a working economy is the Soviet's big hassle.

[Polaris]

Getting a working economy is the Soviet's big hassle.
It always was. IRL LOL.

Btw, RA3 demo is out now.

[Gray Fox]

What wrong with soviet economy?

[DEATH eVADER]

Menu laggs so much for me, I get a black screen for minutes on end.
Also camera is to close imo.


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