View Full Version : This Isn't Racist
Maestro
22-08-2008, 04:46 AM
So I noticed about 5 seconds after looking at the picture of Eli+Wife+Alyx that none of them are from the same ethnicity...
I mean I don't have any particular problem with this but it's rather curious, I won't that VALVe isn't trying to illustrate something.
Planetary
22-08-2008, 04:54 AM
Eli+Wife=Alyx
There you go.
Maestro
22-08-2008, 04:59 AM
Yes but what I'm saying is that none of them are from the same ethnicity. You don't blend two and get a third one that fits pat and perfect into another category.
Eli is of African descent, Wife is of indeterminable descent but from what I can discern is neither Asian nor African, Alyx's eye shape and other facial structure cues would suggest someone of Asian descent.
Planetary
22-08-2008, 05:59 AM
Alyx's mom is Asian, not "indeterminable." I see no contradiction.
Eli's definately black and Azure (i think that's Alyx's mom's name) looks at least half Asian.
ChiliFan
22-08-2008, 06:03 AM
Alyx's mum is called Azian. Probably a little hint right there.
Mech Man
22-08-2008, 06:19 AM
Yeah dude her mum is asian.
Also :
I won't that VALVe isn't trying to illustrate something.
Wut?
KineticAesthetic
22-08-2008, 07:36 AM
I won't that VALVe isn't trying to illustrate something.
Sentence error: No f*cking verb.
Sentence error: No f*cking verb.
'trying' is a verb. and so is 'is'. but still, you're right. the sentence doesn't make sense.
jamiefearon
22-08-2008, 11:08 AM
This Isn't Racist
All that is missing is "This Isn't Racist ... but "
I mean I don't have any particular problem with this but it's rather curious
Its good that you had to make clear you have no particular problem. Surely that should be obvious?
Anyway, carry on.
TollBooth Willie
22-08-2008, 11:23 AM
'is'wat
crackchar
kupocake
22-08-2008, 12:09 PM
Alyx is from an Asian / African mix, same as the real-world actress used to create her face (Jamil Mullen) and also coincidentally as her Voice Actress (Merle Dandridge.) Merle actually talks briefly about her connection to the character and how her unique ethnicity helped in establishing that in the Episode Two commentary.
Maestro
22-08-2008, 06:57 PM
Hmmm, I don't quite know what I was trying to say in that sentence. XD
Alyx's mother is Asian? Huh, guess the picture was a bit too fuzzy for me to make a good distinction.
Well that answers my question.
$kelet0r
22-08-2008, 07:12 PM
change your avatar please - that symbol carries alot of weight and significance and should not be childishly misused
Maestro
22-08-2008, 07:39 PM
Does that make you happy?
mrman234
23-08-2008, 07:00 PM
I like that you felt the need to reassure us that you weren't racist, simply because you were talking about races.
I'm not racist, but black people exist :O
Rizzo89
23-08-2008, 07:11 PM
You lie.
delusional
23-08-2008, 09:34 PM
I hate when people use African and Asian to describe races. I don't see anyone calling Indians asians or Egyptians African? Do you!?
Alyx is half black and and half east asian.
jamiefearon
24-08-2008, 07:10 AM
I like that you felt the need to reassure us that you weren't racist, simply because you were talking about races.
I'm not racist, but black people exist :O
My point exactly. If I ever talk about woman, I dont start by saying, Im not sexist I have no problem with them but that girl over there is cute.
chimpmunk
24-08-2008, 08:27 AM
I love that guy.
Mikael Grizzly
24-08-2008, 10:02 AM
I hate when people use African and Asian to describe races. I don't see anyone calling Indians asians or Egyptians African? Do you!?
Alyx is half black and and half east asian.
No, she's African/Asian, since that's the proper naming for denominations of the human race.
Maestro
25-08-2008, 12:12 AM
Well seeing as how everyone is always so touchy about it I didn't want to get hammered by knee-jerk reactions from the obsessive people.
jet_porkins
26-08-2008, 03:59 AM
You're all racist. Now bring me my boots.
mikeecm
26-08-2008, 04:26 AM
http://lh5.ggpht.com/_p8feMVyBsu8/R3kWNgqR2aI/AAAAAAAAAZ8/xsBd9WDwPQc/d1_eli_010007.jpg
she looks to be of korean decent.
... well well well al qaeda and north korea working together...
Koola Mena
26-08-2008, 12:57 PM
Eli+Wife=Alyx
There you go.
This. Just...this.
Nicky 0123
26-08-2008, 05:16 PM
Eli = mostly black
Wife = Lightish black
Eli + Whatsherface = Alyx = Half-way between.
Fiberawptic
26-08-2008, 11:36 PM
lol Nicky, the wife wasnt lightish black, she was asian.
i've seen a few part asian part black people and they usually look pretty african, but with asian features like the eyes, the cheeks.
I actually think alyx mom was asian/white because alyx appears to me to be a little light to be half black and then another gene thats generally a dark one- asian. Plus judging by the pic of the mom she looks like a part asian part white person...
SPARTACVS
09-09-2008, 09:32 AM
How the **** is this an argument?
Eli is BLACK.
His wife is ASIAN.
Alyx therefore is HALF BLACK, HALF ASIAN.
durr letz get into fightz over samentics and wurdz
XmanXavier11
09-09-2008, 11:12 PM
It's not hard to understand.
Saruke
11-09-2008, 02:33 AM
Despite what you crackers might believe black people come in all different shapes sizes and colors and there are people who are still African American but have very light skin which is obviously the case with Alyx because her mother carried the genes which directed a lighter skin color.
Blackthorn
11-09-2008, 03:54 AM
Yes. Because her mother was Asian.
KineticAesthetic
11-09-2008, 04:17 AM
I'm disgusted by this thread.
Sudano
28-09-2008, 10:08 PM
Alex was adopted.
Enzorr
28-09-2008, 10:15 PM
Alex was adopted.
Win. Epic. Win. Except for the spelling.
ZachAttack
29-09-2008, 05:08 PM
This is almost as bad as
OMG! Alex's Momma is in PORTAL CUZ sheZ ASIAN!
Druckles
29-09-2008, 06:53 PM
Well seeing as how everyone is always so touchy about it I didn't want to get hammered by knee-jerk reactions from the obsessive people.
Problem nowadays with political correctness.
jet_porkins
30-09-2008, 09:10 AM
People are still posting here?
altceva
01-10-2008, 12:14 AM
I think the lightness in Alyx' skin is from the genes of G-man, who is Gordon in the future. Also, Azian didn't die at Black Mesa, she still lives with the man who saved her, Adrian Shephard, and they were making asian gas-maked kids who grew up in the meantime and joined the Combine as Elite Combine troopers.
Sneaki
01-10-2008, 12:41 AM
That post fails in so many ways.. :hmph:
Enzorr
01-10-2008, 01:39 AM
^^This post epicly fails because of not knowing about sarcasm.
Druckles
01-10-2008, 02:03 AM
The above post fails because he does not know the difference between sarcasm and humour.
This post fails because it continued this ridiculous chain.
DoctorWeeTodd
02-10-2008, 06:43 AM
Okay, lemme clear up some misconceptions.
Merle Dandridge who is the voice of Alyx comes from a multi-ethnic background. Her father is African American and her mother was both Korean and Japanese and heritage. She was born in an American military base in Okinawa Japan. In the Episode 2 commentary provided by her during the entering Eli's room in the White Forest base she appreciates VALVe for making a mixed race character like herself because there's not a lot of roles for minorities let alone one of multiple ethnicities.
It is common knowledge that Jamil Mullen was the model for Alyx Vance. What a lot of people don't know was she was also the model for Azian Vance. Compare the ingame family picture with her and this of Jamil:
http://www.nyc.gov/html/nyctv/images/photos/jamil-mullen-large.jpg
Alesia Glidewell was the model for Chell and couldn't possibly be Alyx's mother because of the different names and the fact that she looks nothing like her mother. Ms. Glidewell is of Chicano origins and was also the original model for Zoey in Left 4 Dead.
There have always been huge debates over racial classifications and the merits of it. Scientists believe we all have a common ancestor and scientifically races denote seperate species not groups of them. Recessive genes also kick in after generations of not appearing in the family frequently. I have a friend who looks white and people think her family may partly be from the Mediterranean, yet both her genetic parents are black who have traced their lineage to west Africa. I have many black friends whose family members are of varying skin tones and pop up with "Asian looking eyes" yet there is no recognition of anyone being Asian in their roots. My ex girlfriend has auburn red hair yet nobody in her family had that except her great grandmother. Two of my white friends were able to apply for ethnic scholarships after DNA tests traced them back to Asia and Africa. All of my family comes from China yet I may have an ancestor who comes from somewhere else. Where am I going with this? Nowhere. It just doesn't matter! Truth is, Azian's name is called that because she may have been Asian or her parents just thought it would've a cute name because she has Asian looking features. We may debate this all until we turn blue from breathlessness but only VALVe has the final say.
Alesia Glidewell reminds me Megan Fox.
Satans_Offspring
18-10-2008, 03:58 AM
Yeah Eli's Negro & Azian is Asian, so obviously Alyx is a combination.
Van_Halen
18-10-2008, 04:47 AM
Very good job. Did it take you all 3 pages to deduce that conclusion, or did you just happen across it?
By the way, your timing could have been better. :D
Sorry, I'm just bitter.
By the way, I always thought Jamil looked like a cupcake in that pic...
Eejit
20-10-2008, 02:31 PM
Scientists believe we all have a common ancestor and scientifically races denote seperate species not groups of them.
Not really. I think you misunderstand the concepts of Mitochondrial Eve and Y Chromosome Adam.
Navaha
08-11-2008, 12:25 AM
This thread somehow both wins and fails at once. It's breaking every law of the internet!!!
:bounce:
blackout
10-11-2008, 07:55 PM
This thread somehow both wins and fails at once. It's breaking every law of the internet!!!
:bounce:
k.....?
anyway, it's quite simple: Azian+Eli=Alyx, and if Eli and Azian are from different ethnic backgrounds then Alyx will be a combination of the two so none of them will be exactly the same.
in other words:
Azian's ethnicy+Eli's ethnicy=Alyx's ethnicy (a mix of the two)
Navaha
10-11-2008, 08:00 PM
k.....?
I said that? *Scrolls up*
Okay, I guess I did. :hmph:
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