Games that you wish could be remade verbatim

[MiccyNarc]

ITT, list games that were a blast to play then, and still are now, but could use a fresh coat of paint.

For me, it's Age of Empires I and II. I just played a game of II and to this day it is still a blast to play. Part of the experience is the nostalgia, but regardless, they are still fun and the amount of fun I've had with them has never been matched by another game.

What is it for you?

[KineticAesthetic]

HL. Thus, BM:S.

[AmishSlayer]

I'll submit the obligatory

FFVII

[pvtbones]

XCOM: UFO Defense.

nuff said.

[CyberPitz]

Mario Broth....

Oh wait, NM...:|

I'd have to say X-Wing.

[Que-Ever]

Dark Forces 1 and 2, thieves, and others I can't think of.

[VirusType2]

Dungeon Master, Dungeon Master II and any expansions.

Bionic Commando

Blaster (80's arcade game)

[highlander]

Age Of Empires 2! Seriously. Best. Game. Ever.

[Adabiviak]

Chex Quest, but the sounds have to be exactly like they were on the old ISA Sound Blaster cards. I have the game on a revised Doom engine, but the cheese in the sounds is just not there.

[[Matt]]

XCOM: UFO Defense.

nuff said.

This. Now.

[Warbie]

UFO and Dungeon Keeper would be awesome. I'd also really like remakes of Syndicate, Little Big Adventure and a version of Magic Carpet for the Wii.

[Pesmerga]

Crysis.

[Shift]

Half-Life.

[Eejit]

X-Com.
Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri.
Tiberium Dawn.

[Kadayi]

Personally and no offense to BM:S but I'd of loved to see Valve actually properly remake HL using the Source engine. I know it's not going to happen, and I'm not too sad about it, but they'd of been able to get the right voice actors in for the various roles and it would of tied up nicely, with the sequel. A lot of people who never played the original simply won't play it because it looks so awful these days (which is a pity).

Deus Ex. Great game and it still is, but again a complete refit would be fantastic. When it first came out I was really excited for the future of the FPS experience, DX hinted at a better way, one that moved away from the linear corridor shooters of old. I'd say double up and do the sequel at the same time as well. I'd dump the Unreal engine in favour of Source because it does a much better job of characterization.

System Shock 2. I never quite finished it because it scared the bejesus out of me, but it did so much right that despite the release of Bioshock, it's still worthy of a complete remake with a better more upto date game engine. Yes I'm aware of the modifications, but the dark engine had it day a long time back.

I'm sure there are many others that I could reel off, but I'd put those 3 head and shoulders above the rest.

I know it's a bit of a fun exercise to do this, but a big part of me would really like to see rebuilds happen some where down the road. There are a lot of great games out there that deserve the attention. Certainly not an easy project to carry out, but I think there's scope for a development house to start doing something like that and actually turn a profit on it. Naturally the original developers should still receive their royalties as well (50/50 split perhaps).

[Cormeh]

Dark Forces 1 and 2
Absolutely. I loved the Dark Forces series.

[Shippi]

Dark Forces for sure. Also, X-Wing and TIE Fighter

[Lucid]

Battlefield 1942... would be pure sex on the BF2 engine.

[99.vikram]

Deus Ex. It's superior in most ways to the latest crop of shooters except in the enemy models and AI. That's what I'd like them to fix.

[Docm30]

Battlefield 1942... would be pure sex on the BF2 engine.
They're built on the same engine.

Quarantine would kick loads of ass with good-graphics.

[Lucid]

They're built on the same engine.

Quarantine would kick loads of ass with good-graphics.

If that were the case, then BF1942 would look as good graphically as BF2.
Or there'd be mods making it look as good as BF2 out by now.

Iirc, BF2's on a Refractor 2 engine while BF1942's on the Refractor 1 engine.

But, I don't really know anything technical about game engines.

[AHA-Lambda]

deus ex that game is near the definition of perfect in my eyes :D

[Shift]

Battlefield 1942... would be pure sex on the BF2 engine.

This.

[AJ Rimmer]

All the old Lucasarts space flight sims.

[sea]

Deus Ex, System Shock 2 and Thief 2 are all games that all really worked to create unique atmosphers; I think they'd benefit more than any other titles were they do be remade. It wouldn't just be a simple graphics update in their case; it'd really bring their worlds to life with a level of vibrancy the old technology couldn't muster.

[Kyorisu]

XCOM: UFO Defense.

nuff said.

Uh what?

X-COM: Terror from the Deep
X-COM: Apocalypse
X-COM: Interceptor
X-COM: Email games
X-COM: Enforcer
UFO: Aftermath
UFO: Aftershock - http://www.ufo-aftershock.com/images/ufo_37.jpg
UFO: Afterlight - http://www.ufo-afterlight.com/images/scr_25.jpg
UFO: Extraterrestrials - Latest most resembling the original.

[Beerdude26]

Outcast would be pretty damn slick with some updates.

[PaoloM]

This wondeful classic needs a remake: a new shiny truetype font :laugh:

http://www.zerogspacecow.com/articles/images/zork.jpg

[VictimOfScience]

Thief 2
Crackdown
Bard's Tale 1-3
Ultima 1-5
Shadow of the Beast
Legacy of the Ancients

Ugh...so many to name. Glad that at least some games are being remade. The upcoming Bionic Commando Rearmed is the one that comes to mind and strikes me as one of the greatest remakes of all time.

[Shoes_Buttback03]

The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time ftw!

[Cap'n Sharkbait]

It would be brillliant if Valve used all their new toys to make Half Life look the same as HL:2, that would be epic, imagine playing that awesome game again, with GOOD GRAPHICS, a decent physics engine, BETTER SCIENTISTS RAGDOLLS!!!! *drools*

[Ennui]

X-Com, HL1, Starcraft could all benefit from graphical but not gameplay upgrades

[pvtbones]

Uh what?

X-COM: Terror from the Deep
X-COM: Apocalypse
X-COM: Interceptor
X-COM: Email games
X-COM: Enforcer
UFO: Aftermath
UFO: Aftershock - http://www.ufo-aftershock.com/images/ufo_37.jpg
UFO: Afterlight - http://www.ufo-afterlight.com/images/scr_25.jpg
UFO: Extraterrestrials - Latest most resembling the original.


you say that like any of those games (excluding TFTD) stand anywhere near the first xcom. their all poor imitations when judged against the first two. (ufo defense and tftd)

and while ET is similar to the original it's still lightyears away. (moves a bit closer with some mods)

all I literally want is the orginal that can run on vista without dosbox, graphics is a bonus but not required. everything else must be the same.

[ríomhaire]

Dungeon Keeper
Deus Ex
Tiberian Dawn
Red Alert


That said, I don't actually find the graphics too much of a problem when I play these games even now.

[Eejit]

you say that like any of those games (excluding TFTD) stand anywhere near the first xcom. their all poor imitations when judged against the first two. (ufo defense and tftd)

and while ET is similar to the original it's still lightyears away. (moves a bit closer with some mods)

all I literally want is the orginal that can run on vista without dosbox, graphics is a bonus but not required. everything else must be the same.

Exactly.

I want a remake that will make me feel the way the original X-Com did when responding to a nighttime terror mission in early game vs Chrysalids.

[Krynn72]

Deus Ex, LoZ: OOC, Goldeneye/Perfect Dark, Diddy Kong Racing.

[Polaris]

Deus Ex
Tiberian Dawn
Red Alert


That said, I don't actually find the graphics too much of a problem when I play these games even now.

This.
Plus Flashback: The Quest for Identity, Metal Gear Solid (for PC, heh) and Rollcage.

[Anthraxxx]

Final Fantasy 7 and 8
System Shock 2
waiting on BM:S

[kupocake]

I hope Square-Enix continue with their near-verbatim Final Fantasy DS remake series and do Final Fantasy V and VI. Sure, they're not the best graphics of the day, but they're complex enough for a portable system and a good way of revisiting old classics that are a little ugly.

It would be cool if some of the best Platform games of yesteryear - the Super Marios and Sonic the Hedgehogs particularly - were done over (still in 2D) with 1080 worthy sprites and super-detailed backgrounds. The games would remain essentially identical, just with visuals that look like they came from an animated movie. I suppose the biggest problem with this is that Nintendo haven't put a high-def console out, but they're no strangers to endlessly porting their old properties, so I wouldn't put the whole idea above them.

Relic should use their recently reacquired rights and remake Homeworld to reintroduce the series and... well, to apologise for Homeworld 2 I suppose. Thing is, it's a game that doesn't look that bad anyway, and its one game that wouldn't suffer from a few additions here and there Reintroduce the other pirate race from their early story drafts (Starfish Motherships!) perhaps incorporate the awesome Megalith ideas that got dropped from Homeworld 2 when development got rushed through and you'd have one hell of remake, though one that isn't strictly 'verbatim'.

[Gargantou]

Ultima 7, Elder Scrolls 2: Daggerfall, Buck Rogers isometric RPGs from SSI, Carmageddon 1+addon, and plenty more.

[Ennui]

Some more after reading the thread:

Dark Forces (joining in on the DF lovefest in this thread)
Goldeneye and Perfect Dark (perfect ports with upgraded graphics)
Star Fox 64

[Gordonsglasses]

I would want the following to be remade:
Front mission 3
Alundra 1
Suikoden 1
Wild Arms 1

[$kelet0r]

Deus Ex /end thread

[Eejit]

Screw your /end thread. Deus Ex isn't the best game evarrr

[Trevelyan]

I've got a habit of bumping this, but I loved it alot. Blade Runner with updated graphics. Also I'm a Dark Forces fan, so that too.

[PaoloM]

How I wish that someone could find the way to make modern games with the appeal of traditional turn based RPGs like Ultima, Fallout and so on. I refuse to think that good graphics and powerful machines have to necessarily kill a genre and turn everything into action-something. Formulas can change, graphics can go 3D, no problem with that, but the gameplay should remain the same.

[Warbie]

Screw your /end thread. Deus Ex isn't the best game evarrr

Dues Ex with combat that wasn't rubbish might be :)

[Cornerstone]

Wing Commander series
Ultima 1-6
Wizardry 1-7
Darklands

[ShinRa]

FF7
FF8
Ocarina of Time

[Docm30]

If that were the case, then BF1942 would look as good graphically as BF2.
Or there'd be mods making it look as good as BF2 out by now.

Iirc, BF2's on a Refractor 2 engine while BF1942's on the Refractor 1 engine.

But, I don't really know anything technical about game engines.

That's not really how it works; the same engine doesn't equal the same graphics, BF2 is running different shaders for example. And since the source-code for the engine isn't public, the graphics can't be updated by modders.

All PC Battlefield games are built on the Refractor 2 engine---Codename: Eagle was built on Refractor 1.

By the way, Starcraft's graphics are perfect as they are; a remake could only hurt.

[Lucid]

Huh, I never knew that.
Must be a very heavily modified R2 engine.

Anyways to add another few games, Giants : Citizen Kabuto... can you imagine what this http://www.deafgamers.com/gia5.jpg
Would look like if it was next-genified?!

Or Rune, dear God... http://www.happypenguin.org/images/Rune.jpg
Next-gen decapitations!

[Corp. Sheepo]

Half-Life 1 and Starfox

[CyberPitz]

I would want the following to be remade:
Wild Arms 1

I would have to agree. Wild ARMs was one of my favorite RPGs. Though, the game WAS kinda redone a bit with Wild Arms Alter Code F...sadly, some gameplay elements were taken from 2 and 3. Bleh.

http://a248.e.akamai.net/f/248/5462/2h/images.gamezone.com/screens/24/1/21/s24121_ps2_4.jpg

[Higlac]

Chex Quest, but the sounds have to be exactly like they were on the old ISA Sound Blaster cards. I have the game on a revised Doom engine, but the cheese in the sounds is just not there.

THIS

http://www.cydeweys.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/07/cquest.jpg

The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time ftw!

THIS


And also Dark forces, outcast, Descent 1 and 2, ONI and Metriod 1, 2, and Super Metriod.

[xcellerate]

it's probably been said but, total annihilation. The only rts I enjoy. :(

edit: and for all those saying "half-life" go check out, black mesa: source...if you haven't heard of it yet (unlikely?):

http://www.blackmesasource.com/media/c1a0_release11_006.jpg

[Qhartb]

American McGee's Alice - would be awesome to see such a dark and insane world with modern graphics

Psychonauts - okay, I know it's way too soon, but I recently played it at 2560x1600 and was wowed a second time by the style, but the lack of detail was noticable. I'm imagining Psychonauts with Ratchet & Clank -quality graphics.

Duke 3d - A remake would be great to tide us over for the next several decades before the DNF comes out.

The Longest Journey - One of the coolest parts of Dreamfall was revisiting some of the locales of the original in full 3d glory.

Final Fantasy VI

The Incredible Machine series

Heart of Darkness - a fun puzzle-platformer

Okami - just kidding

Epic Pinball - a great old pinball game. Coded in pure x86 assembly.

Half-Life + expansions

[Krynn72]

it's probably been said but, total annihilation. The only rts I enjoy. :(

edit: and for all those saying "half-life" go check out, black mesa: source...if you haven't heard of it yet (unlikely?):

Yeah, but we'd like to be able to play it at some point in our lifetime.

[Sulkdodds]

None. If I want to play an old game, I'll play the old game.

[Gordonsglasses]

I would have to agree. Wild ARMs was one of my favorite RPGs. Though, the game WAS kinda redone a bit with Wild Arms Alter Code F...sadly, some gameplay elements were taken from 2 and 3. Bleh.

http://a248.e.akamai.net/f/248/5462/2h/images.gamezone.com/screens/24/1/21/s24121_ps2_4.jpg

Yeah, i know. I would just prefer the original to be redone only in terms of the graphics. They were bad even for the PS1. The gameplay didn't need to be touched as it was perfectly fine. Other than that, it was an underrated classic!

[Thandurin]

Battlezone and Starsiege Tribes

[Letters]

I was gonna say Armored Core, but then found out they're actually up to Armored Core 4 now?! Holy shit, I gotta check that out!

Oh and Deus Ex + Tribes 2 + Splinter Cell Pandora Tomorrow (so people would play the multiplayer again). :P

[PaoloM]

[Talking about Black Mesa]
Yeah, but we'd like to be able to play it at some point in our lifetime.

Totally agreed on this.

[Eejit]

None. If I want to play an old game, I'll play the old game.

Updated compatibility for the older ones would be nice though...

[Krynn72]

http://www.nintendoclub.it/download/Jet_Force_Gemini.jpg

Jet Force Gemini. One of my favorite games from the n64. The Co-op provided weeks of great fun.

[Ennui]

Black Mesa is not what I want from a HL remake because they're changing it a bit. I want HL, the same feeling, the same look, the same gameplay, just way sexier.

[Saturos]

Final Fantasy VI: The best FF ever. Just like FFVII though, it'll never happen, and it should stay that way tbh. I don't want the sacrity of my favorite FF being ruined by mainstream vomit. It would still be nice though.

Super Punch Out!: Hell yes. I loved this game. I've completely mastered the SNES version and can defeat most of the boxers in 40 seconds or less. Including the Bruiser brothers and Super Macho Man. (I beat Gabby Jay in only 7 seconds, on the first round. :O) Fight Night 3 is good, but I still would like to see a modern SPU.

Blood: The best PC FPS shooter ever.

[elkaebee]

Crysis, Et:Quake Wars, Portal, Team Fortress 2.

[Sulkdodds]

Updated compatibility for the older ones would be nice though...Yeah, that's all I'd really want. I'm happy to put up with the old graphics as long as I can actually play the thing. I don't want any modern developers to put their time and resources into developing an exact copy of an old game when the original is right there and they could be doing something more interesting or innovative.

[Lucid]

American McGee's Alice - would be awesome to see such a dark and insane world with modern graphics

Psychonauts - okay, I know it's way too soon, but I recently played it at 2560x1600 and was wowed a second time by the style, but the lack of detail was noticable. I'm imagining Psychonauts with Ratchet & Clank -quality graphics.

Duke 3d - A remake would be great to tide us over for the next several decades before the DNF comes out.

The Longest Journey - One of the coolest parts of Dreamfall was revisiting some of the locales of the original in full 3d glory.

Final Fantasy VI

The Incredible Machine series

Heart of Darkness - a fun puzzle-platformer

Okami - just kidding

Epic Pinball - a great old pinball game. Coded in pure x86 assembly.

Half-Life + expansions

What???
Lack of detail?!
Psychonauts has an incredible amount of detail in the world and all of the levels.

[Kyorisu]

you say that like any of those games (excluding TFTD) stand anywhere near the first xcom. their all poor imitations when judged against the first two. (ufo defense and tftd)

and while ET is similar to the original it's still lightyears away. (moves a bit closer with some mods)

all I literally want is the orginal that can run on vista without dosbox, graphics is a bonus but not required. everything else must be the same.

Bah stop living in the past. The UFO games are bloody brilliant especially considering the mod community that is sort of still around. I'd play a game of Aftershock over the original any day. Want a pure MP game try http://ufo2000.sourceforge.net/ Wanting everything the same is what makes me hate you (well not personally). Any new additions should not be exactly the same, they should offer a similar experience without being clones.

it's probably been said but, total annihilation. The only rts I enjoy. :(

TA Spring - http://spring.clan-sy.com/screenshots/screen96.jpg
Supreme Commander - You should know what this looks like.

KGO!

[Gargantou]

Anyone who disses X-Com should get a rifle showed up their ass and fired.

[Ennui]

I was gonna say Armored Core, but then found out they're actually up to Armored Core 4 now?! Holy shit, I gotta check that out!

Oh and Deus Ex + Tribes 2 + Splinter Cell Pandora Tomorrow (so people would play the multiplayer again). :P

I haven't played 3 or 4, but Armored Core 2 was significantly less awesome than the original.

[Loke]

Blood: The best PC FPS shooter ever.

Oh hell yes, if they can get all the things right that they did with it (the feeling of the weapons, the overall awesomeness of the dark and moody atmosphere) I would be more than happy to see it all redefined in omgsexyHD. :E

Duke 3d - A remake would be great to tide us over for the next several decades before the DNF comes out.

You could call the HRP a remake of Duke Nukem 3D, although a total remake made by 3D Realms wouldn't be too bad. However, I wish they would just focus on DNF instead.

I would also like to see a remake of Unreal, the first one.

[DEATH eVADER]

Any space x4 games

Ascendency
Fragile Allegiance
Imperium Galactica I or II (Just give II widescreen capabilities upto 1440x900, more detailed textures and bug-free gaming in Vista: No need to change th gameplay)

Lost Empire: Immortals (forget a new coat of paint, it hasn't even been given a second coating)

[Gargantou]

Fragile Allegiance was a great game, I loved both it and the game it was based off.:)

[Tyguy]

Goldeneye

[Remus]

Blood: The best PC FPS shooter ever.

Oh yeah. Monolith should definitely consider a remake of the first Blood after they are done with Project Origin. This was the first FPS I've played, probably the nostalgia talking but it was a hell of a fun game.

[DreamThrall]

Ultima Underworld 1 and 2 ... I loved the first one, and never got to play the 2nd, and I still can't because I can't get dosbox to run it right :\

[Polaris]

Descent!

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/4d/Descent.jpg

http://linux.strangegamer.com/game_images/screenshots/descent2.jpg

[AmishSlayer]

Crysis, Et:Quake Wars, Portal, Team Fortress 2.

What?

[Asus]

Basically all classic adventure games. I'm not naming them all...

[Que-Ever]

Anyone who disses X-Com should get a rifle showed up their ass and fired.

http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/3672/jetsonwa3.jpg

can you see the rifle? Because I'm doing it as hard as I can.

[Viperidae]

After a lot of thought, one game that I think would be ever such awesomeness redone, would be Die by the Sword. However it would probably be better to just make a sequel, as it had a lot of bugs/weirdness.

[FoB_Ed]

Dark Forces? Good god yes!

After a lot of thought, one game that I think would be ever such awesomeness redone, would be Die by the Sword. However it would probably be better to just make a sequel, as it had a lot of bugs/weirdness.

Die By the Sword was a great game! I loved the random taunts. "Bloody hell!"

[TCfromBN]

Descent (Any & All) Also, PM me if you want to play I and II on your current computer with online capability. :]
C&C: RA2
C&C:RA
Goldeneye
Zelda OOT
Socom II

[kupocake]

Final Fantasy VI: The best FF ever. Just like FFVII though, it'll never happen
What makes you think that? They've already remade III and IV for the DS, why is it unlikely that they'll keep going with the Nintendo series?

[Gargantou]

http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/3672/jetsonwa3.jpg

can you see the rifle? Because I'm doing it as hard as I can.I love you.

[Que-Ever]

I love you.

*handjob*

[Saturos]

What makes you think that? They've already remade III and IV for the DS, why is it unlikely that they'll keep going with the Nintendo series?I meant to specify a current gen console remake of FF VI (the American SNES FF III) with revamped graphics, not a handheld remake. :p

I thought twice about it though, and now that I think about it, I really don't want a remake after all. FFVII has already been beat to death what with all the movies, spin-offs etc. That FF is completely ruined thanks to mainstream popularity. :P I'm still busy trying to wipe all the vomit off of poor Aeris' boots. Let her rest in peace already. :(

If Square/Enix really wanted to capitalize on FFVII's popularity, they should have just done what the fans wanted in the first place and just made a remake of the original game.

[Higlac]

Descent: Freespace

http://www.ppa.pl/artykuly/pics/sekcje/strefa/freespace/freespace8.jpg
http://www.game-over.net/review/oct99/freespace2/Screen34.JPG
http://www.activewin.com/reviews/software/games/f/images/freespace2_1.jpg
http://www.hardware-one.com/img1/freespace2_big.jpg

[Lucid]

Star Wars : Dark Forces 2 : Jedi Outcast...

With Euphoria... YES.

(Not Force Unleashed cause it's not on the PC.)

[kupocake]

That FF is completely ruined thanks to mainstream popularity. :P
When hasn't Final Fantasy been a 'mainstream' series?. IMO, It was 'killed' by Square-Enix getting wise on how to make shitloads of money off of it after having tried something brave and completely rubbish with The Spirits Within.
If Square/Enix really wanted to capitalize on FFVII's popularity, they should have just done what the fans wanted in the first place and just made a remake of the original game.
I don't think people were against the idea of an FF VII Sequel. In fact, once X-2 arrived, people naturally looked towards the most popular installment and wanted a continuation, probably more than they ever wanted a remake. Shame everything they've churned out as a sequel has blown chunks.

[TCfromBN]

X-2 is pretty fun, tbh.

[xcellerate]

yea, X is actually the only one I've completed.

I've got like...all of them. My roommate gave me all his FF cd's because he said I "had to play them!!" So of course I tried to play VII...and couldn't because I got bored. And now I have 2 stacks of like 28 cd's on my desk.

[Gordonsglasses]

I don't think people were against the idea of an FF VII Sequel. In fact, once X-2 arrived, people naturally looked towards the most popular installment and wanted a continuation, probably more than they ever wanted a remake. Shame everything they've churned out as a sequel has blown chunks.

You may disagree but i always thought dirge of cerberus was really good. Alright, so the gameplay wasn't the greatest but it was really enjoyable and the story was excellent. So as sequels go, i thought they did well with that one.
I don't agree that any of the final fantasy games should be remade, especially VII because there is always the possibility that they may mess up what originally made them so appealing for everyone in the first place.

One game i wouldn't mind being updated is star wars: TIE fighter. I always had loads of fun with that game.

[Pesmerga]

X-2 is pretty fun, tbh.

Shut your cock sucker.

[TCfromBN]

But I'm already trying to shut you up.
<3 u

[Operational]

Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri.
Hell yeah! In fact I think I might install it and give it another spin.

An updated version or sequel would be awesome... *drools at the thought of SMAC with updated graphics and Civ4's interface and multiplayer improvements*

Pity this (http://apolyton.net/forums/showthread.php?threadid=160146) mod didn't take off because it looks great. But it was a bit ambitious to remake a entire game as a mod (cough BM:S cough).

[Asuka]

Deus Ex!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Half-Life but a mod team is doing a phenomenal job with that already.

Legacy of Kain Soul Reaver, but then again the bad GFX made that game ****ing freaky!

Mega Man Legends

Metal Gear Solid

[Blayze]

Planescape: Torment.