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Citrus
27-04-2008, 04:50 PM
I've finally had enough of not being able to play off-line with friends, and the extreme motion sickness I get while playing CoD4. I really want a console. However, I don't know which to choose from..

personally I feel the 360 is very tempting, because of the catalogue of good games and cost, but then I also know that the PS3 has some good features, like the free internet.

I'm also planning on getting a cheap 32"+ screen to use for the console, so will need a bit of help with that.

Cheers

Mutley
27-04-2008, 04:57 PM
In my opinion the only deciding factor for me, is if you want to watch Bluray movies or not, taking in mind that they will be mainstream in the not so distant future.

AHA-Lambda
27-04-2008, 05:22 PM
I would say 360 as live is better IMO, also although blu-ray will be the standard in the future by the time it does blu-ray players will get cheaper than the ps3.

Musk
27-04-2008, 05:45 PM
360. Better controller and games IMO. Buy a blue-ray player when their cheaper. Probably be better then the ps3 one soon anyway.

B_MAN
27-04-2008, 05:57 PM
360 for a better selection of games
plus you'll be able to play with more of us HL2.netters!

Citrus
27-04-2008, 06:02 PM
So 360 seems to be leading atm...

But bare in mind i'll still be using my computer for Valve games and RTS games.

I'm not really fussed at all about the blu-ray player.

knut
27-04-2008, 06:02 PM
The deciding factor for me is the games. Personally, looking through the list, the PS3 has one title that has my interest but as of recently that's been dwindling somewhat (MGS4), but that's just me, you may think differently. Free online play is good and all but why should I care if theres no games out there I will use with it? But again, it's all prefrences, and I respect that others may feel the same about the 360. Opinions.

But then, I don't mind paying a measly 40 pounds for a great online service that I use every night, so I don't even bother taking in into consideration.

I got the 360 a year back simply because of a great line up of games that were coming out in the months. Bioshock, Mass Effect, Halo 3, COD4, Orange Box bundle... yeah, four out of five of those titles are PC games, too, but then I haven't the bother or need to upgrade my PC and b) all my friends play on the 360 and in general, I much prefer the console/layed back environment. Every saturday I have mates over and we play COD4 on the 360 - I wouldn't be doing that if it was on PC at all. But again, that's me.

I have no problem with the PS3 - at all, actually - it just hasn't got the games I want. Maybe in a year it will. Who knows? I personally wouldn't get it for Bluray though, I don't watch DVDs enough as it is and when I do, standard definition does me just fine.

I suggest you compile lists of games you want and stack 'em up beside each other. A list for each console, then see what takes your fancy.

CyberPitz
27-04-2008, 06:03 PM
In all honesty, take a look at them both. Don't ask a forum of people, as it's still a big "Hate Sony" bandwagon. Look at both and decide "Which one has more games I want/Which one fits my budget best" then find people who have them, and test out the controls for yourself. Some people say the Xbox controls are better, but to me, they suck. So really, everybody has their own opinions, make your own.

Dalamari
27-04-2008, 06:21 PM
360, but PS3 has some titles I'd consider looking at, it's all up to which game library you like better

smwScott
27-04-2008, 06:33 PM
I prefer the PS3. It has better exclusives and free online, which are the main selling points for me. Also it already sounds like you have a good PC, and the majority of 360 "exclusive" games are also on PC ... to the point where owning both is almost redundant. I also get a lot of use out of the Blu-Ray player, and you might too in the future.

But look at the exclusives and decide for yourself. I own a PS3 and a high-end PC, and that leaves me completely satisfied. My roommate also has a 360 to catch anything that falls through the cracks :p .

Blackthorn
27-04-2008, 07:00 PM
I myself am getting a PS3 soon. I'm no 360 hater, I play round my friend's house very often, but too many 360 games are available on PC with better graphics and controls for me to see the point in buying one. I was going to get one when Mass Effect came out, but it's the same story there: Wait a while, then get the better version on PC. Plus, with Blu-Ray winning the HD war it makes sense to buy a PS3, as you should bear in mind standard Blu-Ray players are not updatable, so they may not be able to play new releases in a few years.

Also it has MGS4. If that's a not a good reason I dunno what is.

VictimOfScience
27-04-2008, 07:19 PM
This is always a sticky discussion on an internet forum, esp. this one. :O

In my opinion, the PS3 is just a better put-together console. If there is one thing Sony knows it is hardware. The addition of Blu-ray functionality for games and movies and also the wireless networking capabilities out of the box make it the standout machine. The quieter disc drive (compared to the 360) also don't hurt. Sure, the 360 started out hot and with some great "exclusives," but almost all of these have already or will be soon releasing on the PC as well (and even Bioshock will likely be coming in the fall for the PS3). People talk about a great library of games for the 360 but if you cut through the crap titles, there are only a handful for it (that goes for the PS3 as well now too though). $60 games are keeping me from investing too heavily in much for either of those 2 systems. This is why I have a grand total of 3 games for my 360 and 4 for my PS3 (soon to be 5 Monday at Midnight ;)).

Do whatever you like, but this year will prove that it is nicer to be a PS3 ower than a 360 (though I am SURE I will like Fable 2 and Alan Wake A TON if they make it out in '08).

AtomicSpark
27-04-2008, 07:30 PM
I have a PS3. It's shiny. 'Nuff said.

Citrus
27-04-2008, 07:37 PM
Well there's alot of mixed opinions.

Could anyone help out with what TV to buy? Please take into consideration i'll be buying from the UK.

Gargantou
27-04-2008, 07:51 PM
I wouldn't listen to smwScott, "better exclusives" my ass..

Goddamned fanboy.

Why can't you all be rich kidz like me so you can buy both consoles?

Sedako
27-04-2008, 07:57 PM
I prefer the PS3. It has better exclusives and free online, which are the main selling points for me. Also it already sounds like you have a good PC, and the majority of 360 "exclusive" games are also on PC ... to the point where owning both is almost redundant. I also get a lot of use out of the Blu-Ray player, and you might too in the future.

But look at the exclusives and decide for yourself. I own a PS3 and a high-end PC, and that leaves me completely satisfied. My roommate also has a 360 to catch anything that falls through the cracks :p .

Pretty much matches my sentiments exactly, although I wouldn't call the exclusives better, both systems have or will have some great exclusives. If you have a high-end PC, you'll probably be better off getting a PS3. Many of the popular games on the 360 (Gears of War, Mass Effect, Bioshock) are or will be out on the PC. The PS3 has a great list of upcoming exclusives that you can't get on any other platform. It usually boils down to Xbox360 for live, or PS3 for upcoming exclusives and features.

AHA-Lambda
27-04-2008, 07:57 PM
I have both and I never play my PS3, take that into consideration.

VictimOfScience
27-04-2008, 08:01 PM
But he also must take into consideration what you are playing on your 360...

What are you playing on your 360??

Bad^Hat
27-04-2008, 08:03 PM
The deciding factor always seems to come down to this: better online (Xbox Live), or more trustworthy hardware (PS3)? Both can be argued either way, but they seem to be the least subjective means of deciding. Besides that, it's up to your preference of games. The 360 is always said to have 'better' games, but I'd say it's more like it just has more high quality ones. Whether or not they're actually good is down to the player, and half of the stuff that was hailed as brilliant last year alot of people didn't like anyway. There's also the price, but as I understand it that's pretty close now anyway, with Xbox Live subscriptions and such (though it's worth it) bumping the 360 up with the PS3.

Take a good look at both, take your time and decide which suits you better. Personally I got the 360 on a total whim, but luckily I don't regret it. ^_^

Citrus
27-04-2008, 08:08 PM
Well another reason i'm after a console is because my PC can't keep up with next-gen games, and i'm not prepared to keep paying money to update it.

I had my heart set on an 8800GT, but they still haven't budged in price, so I might aswell spend a little more and get the benefits and simplicity of a console.

Sedako
27-04-2008, 08:14 PM
Your best bet is to look at what games both systems have to offer now and in the future, then figure out which ones you'd rather play and make your decision based on that.

Rapstah
27-04-2008, 08:18 PM
In before actual fanboys.

AHA-Lambda
27-04-2008, 08:25 PM
But he also must take into consideration what you are playing on your 360...

What are you playing on your 360??

Umm let's see off the top of my head

Gears
halo 3
cod 4
cod 3
cod 2
crackdown
condemned
hitman blood money
splinter cell double agent
the darkness
bioshock
mass effect

arcade:
castlevania symphony of the night
ikaruga
worms
carcassone (free)
undertow(free)

Rapstah
27-04-2008, 08:26 PM
Two of those are exclusives?

Dalamari
27-04-2008, 08:46 PM
Gears is an exclusive (unless you count PC)

Blackthorn
27-04-2008, 09:04 PM
Then it's not an exclusive...

Robert-
27-04-2008, 09:06 PM
360. Period.

TwwIX
27-04-2008, 09:22 PM
I don't hate Sony at all.The only downside to PS3 is the lack of games and the somewhat higher price tag.
I actually own a 360 myself but if i didn't and had to choose between those two, i'd go for the PS3.

The 360 exclusives are bullshit and the live service is a rip off in my opinion.With Blue Ray being the winning future movie format, it's just a matter of time till the PS3 gains the upper hand.

Asus
27-04-2008, 09:45 PM
I think the Xbox360 is the better deal for the game library and good console multi-player experience through live. But you have to be willing to pay for the MP and if you have other systems then a lot of the games are overlap (especially with PC). That's why I have a PC/PS3/Wii. Although if I had just 1 system for gaming then it would be xbox360. (but I like hi-def movies :p)

BUT then there's the Xbox360 failure rate...
(better with the new revisions but still not acceptable)

For 32" HDTV I'd get a 720p LCD. I wouldn't think you would benefit from a 1080p screen of that size at all. Maybe get a 37" screen instead though. Similar price as the 32" here in the USA. Samsung seems very popular and I think their screens look good. Sony is good of course although usually more $$. I got my 40" Sony on clearance so it happened to be cheaper than the samsung/toshiba models I was also looking at. Plus the picture was better. :)

Citrus
27-04-2008, 09:50 PM
Considering that I would no longer be using my PC for gaming (other than Valve titles) is it worth going for the 360? I don't really mind if all the 360 games are out on PC, simply because I wouldn't be able to play them anyway.

Thanks for the tip about 720/1080p. I could of wasted my money on a better screen if I didn't know that!

Bad^Hat
27-04-2008, 10:01 PM
I agree with Asus that the 360 is good as a dedicated gaming machine. You have to be able to justify the cost of the online, so if you're combining it with other systems you won't really be getting the same value out of it (except Wii, which is something different entirely).

Sedako
27-04-2008, 10:12 PM
You also should consider that the PS3 is probably more future proof than the 360.

Kyorisu
27-04-2008, 10:21 PM
The only thing to consider is the entertainment value that can be attained from the machine early after it's purchase. Long term who cares you can always buy a machine then when it actually matters as opposed to now with nothing much actually out. That's a vote for the 360, although I despise the idea of paying Microsoft money for Live I still use mine for single player all the time.

Obligatory I hope any 360 you buy doesn't die in the arse line.

TheDude
27-04-2008, 10:21 PM
Buy both! Both consoles have or will have a very good catalog. PS3 is getting MGS4, LBP, and God of War III. 360 is hopefully getting some good exclusive titles as well, such as Alan Wake (also PC), Ninja Gaiden II, Gears of War II, Ect.

Citrus
27-04-2008, 10:25 PM
Please, please don't suggest buying both.

I don't have the money - that's why the topics called: "PS3 or XBOX ?"

Bad^Hat
27-04-2008, 10:29 PM
Come to think of it, the only question you really need to be asking yourself right now is... which system would you rather play GTA IV on? :P

AHA-Lambda
27-04-2008, 10:36 PM
No the question is which system has the DLC for GTA IV? :P

Asus
27-04-2008, 10:41 PM
No the question is which system has the DLC for GTA IV? :PIf I had GTA4 on the Xbox360 i probably would not end up buying the 2 episodes MS paid them to make. Hell, I don't even know what the content is atm. But I would be considering which system my friends had for the MP.

AHA-Lambda
27-04-2008, 10:52 PM
Come on i'm trying to make a point here :P

Although I can certainly see what you're saying about MP but all my friends have 360s (i'm the only one with a ps3 :O )most people here also have 360s

smwScott
27-04-2008, 11:21 PM
I wouldn't listen to smwScott, "better exclusives" my ass..

Goddamned fanboy.

Why can't you all be rich kidz like me so you can buy both consoles?

You are a douchebag of epic proportions. And a spoiled one at that.

Most 360 exclusives (Mass Effect, Alan Wake, Bioshock, Gears of War, etc.) are also available on PC. I inferred that he already had a good PC because he at least had a good enough one to play CoD4. Therefore, buying a PS3 would open up many more options for him. Many other people expressed almost the exact same sentiments before and after my post.

Please point out where the "Goddamned fanboy" comments come through in that or my original post? Also, I think I deserve an explanation as to why you're such an asshole. Either offer a valid explanation or stop dogging my goddamn posts like some immature little shit.

knut
27-04-2008, 11:39 PM
Most 360 exclusives (Mass Effect, Alan Wake, Bioshock, Gears of War, etc.) are also available on PC. I inferred that he already had a good PC because he at least had a good enough one to play CoD4. Therefore, buying a PS3 would open up many more options for him. Many other people expressed almost the exact same sentiments before and after my post.



You raise a valid point, however; OP said he was tired of not being to play offline with friends and he was suffering from motion sickness.

The point is void to me as I would rather play said games on my 360, but I know what you are saying.

Again, it all depends on the games. The PS3 isn't an option for me myself because I can't see anything appealing gamewise except for MGS4, and in terms of exclusives so far... well, disapointing comes to mind but that's my own opinion.

Citrus, have you looked in to any of them as of yet? Just pick what console has the most games you want to play on it.

smwScott
27-04-2008, 11:49 PM
You raise a valid point, however; OP said he was tired of not being to play offline with friends and he was suffering from motion sickness.

The point is void to me as I would rather play said games on my 360, but I know what you are saying.

Again, it all depends on the games. The PS3 isn't an option for me myself because I can't see anything appealing gamewise except for MGS4, and in terms of exclusives so far... well, disapointing comes to mind but that's my own opinion.

Fair enough, if you don't have a high end PC or for whatever reason don't want to use it, then the 360 is a very competitive choice. It's arguably a superior choice - if I didn't have a capable PC I'm pretty sure I would buy one for Mass Effect alone, let alone games like Alan Wake and Bioshock.

However most of the exclusives I know of, with the exception of Halo 3, don't have a strong offline multiplayer component anyway. This goes for both consoles though, as FPS games in general seem to be veering away from split-screen.

As far as PS3 exclusives, I can think of MGS4, Little Big Planet, Haze, Killzone 2, Resistance 2, and already released ones like Ratchet and Clank and Uncharted. There's some others too I'm sure.

He just needs to look at the two game rosters and decide what fits him best, as that's really all it comes down to in the long run.

VirusType2
28-04-2008, 12:16 AM
Well another reason i'm after a console is because my PC can't keep up with next-gen games, and i'm not prepared to keep paying money to update it.

I had my heart set on an 8800GT, but they still haven't budged in price, so I might aswell spend a little more and get the benefits and simplicity of a console.

I think the 8800GT is about $150 or less if you get it on sale at newegg. the sale ends in a few days I think. There is a thread on it in Hardware / Software.


I don't like consoles personally. But there are more games for them, hands down. I'd get a video card for your PC, and, if you really want a console, I'd get a Wii. It's really the only console that makes sense if you have a good PC, and don't mind missing a handful of console games. Then, on your PC, you can play the huge hits (that mostly appear on the 360), and you would have a console that is completely different. I think if you have a decent processor and ram, then an 8800GT is roughly equivalent to the PS3 and 360. So, like I said, you can play those games, and like others have said, usually the PC version is better (for example, higher resolutions, arguably better controls, and more content ((gears of war))), though it does come out a little later.

BTW Haze is due out on the PC soon, as well as Spore, and Devil May Cry ... 4? No word on Condemned 2 or GTA 4 yet, but I'm sure we will see them on the PC one day. I do wish that Microsoft would put more of it's console hits on the PC in a timely fashion. For example, Halo 3, Forza Motorsport 2, etc.


here's the link for the video card thread:

http://www.halflife2.net/forums/showthread.php?t=140863

Kyorisu
28-04-2008, 12:41 AM
and he was suffering from motion sickness.

Heh guess I missed that part.

Try making sure the room is brightly lit and sitting farther back, so you can see the wall behind your monitor not moving. Try messing around with refresh rates and resolutions - low resolution stuff can make me feel sick, prime example was when I was playing a n64 emulator fullscreen on my 22" monitor, got incredibly nauseous within 15 minutes of it. Also some refresh rates just set people off so try 60, 65, 75, whatever your monitor goes to. For games, max resolution, minimize detail if your system can't handle it on full. Using a new (old) LCD - old LCDs had a limitation on how fast then could change a picture often reducing their effective refresh rate.

Try having some stuff with ginger in it before hand, or ginger tablets. Ginger helps calm the cause of motion sickness (I take ginger pills for plane flights).

Bakurei
28-04-2008, 05:01 AM
Why diss the Xbox 360 because most of the games also come for PC? I mean whats the point in saying that buy the PS3 because most Xbox titles come to PC when the guy says he doesn't want to upgrade his computer anymore and that he's buying a console... Umm dumbness to teh max? This was one of the main reasons I actually bought the Xbox, the games I want to play on PC also come for the Xbox 360.

Games are the real factor IMO. When I was buying a console I never looked at it's multimedia functionality. But if we take that route, the Xbox live has the video service running on, which means downloading HD movies and watching them from your HDD, no discs needed.

If you like FPS games then I'd go for Xbox 360, IMO the controller is way better for FPS games. But thats a personal prefrence. You really have to try the controllers, I never liked the PS controller, I mean it just feels so goddamn stupid to my hands. Where in the xbox 360 controller fits like a charm.

Actually if you preffer any games at all go with Xbox 360, plus Valve titles run better on it.

Sedako
28-04-2008, 05:30 AM
Why diss the Xbox 360 because most of the games also come for PC? I mean whats the point in saying that buy the PS3 because most Xbox titles come to PC when the guy says he doesn't want to upgrade his computer anymore and that he's buying a console... Umm dumbness to teh max? This was one of the main reasons I actually bought the Xbox, the games I want to play on PC also come for the Xbox 360.

I never dissed it for that fact. However, it is one of the reasons why I'm getting a PS3 over a 360. My PC is very current, and the only games for the 360 that really appealed to me are also available on the PC, or will be. There are far more PS3 exclusives that I'd like to play, and they won't be showing up on the PC.


If you like FPS games then I'd go for Xbox 360, IMO the controller is way better for FPS games. But thats a personal prefrence. You really have to try the controllers, I never liked the PS controller, I mean it just feels so goddamn stupid to my hands. Where in the xbox 360 controller fits like a charm.

If you like FPS games, you should stick to the PC. No matter which way you look at it, mouse and keyboard just work so much better than a controller for FPS games. As for the actual controllers, it is really a matter of preference, as you said. I've been using the PlayStation controller for around 10 years now. Even the controller I purchased for my PC resembles the Dualshock. I'm just more comfortable with it's shape than any other controller.

Actually if you preffer any games at all go with Xbox 360, plus Valve titles run better on it.

You just sank into fanboy territory, and no one likes a fanboy (unless they're other fanboys). Sure, currently the PS3's library is currently rather lacking when compared to the 360, but that hardly means that it doesn't have any good games. Uncharted, Ratchet and Clank, Motorstorm, Warhawk... all great exclusives that can be appreciated by many gamers. The reason why Orange Box does not match the performance of the 360 is because Valve left it for EA to port, and we know all know how EA does business. It's not the fault of Sony or the PS3. Even so, the platform of choice for the Orange Box remains the PC.

Drackard
28-04-2008, 05:36 AM
I had my heart set on an 8800GT, but they still haven't budged in price, so I might aswell spend a little more and get the benefits and simplicity of a console.

They're rather cheap now, a friend of mine got a decent 8800GT with a Zalman cooler for about ?160.

As for the two consoles, I don't think I could pick between the two as I use both of them equally .. although the Wii a lot more than either lately :/

Both have a great choice of current and upcoming games, both have great online services and DLC although I do prefer Xbox: Live over the PS3's online service as it's far more developed imo.

Sorry I couldn't be of much help, but I love all of em too much to pick one of them :P

Gargantou
28-04-2008, 06:04 AM
You are a douchebag of epic proportions. And a spoiled one at that.How am I spoiled?
I paid for my 1700 euro PC with my own money, I paid for my 400 euro XB360 with my own money, I paid for my 500 euro PS3 with my own money.

jondy
28-04-2008, 08:09 AM
It would be a 360 for me, I suppose - I'm not a big fan of the PS3 exclusives and it would get me out of the money-pit that is maintaining a gaming PC.

How am I spoiled?
I paid for my 1700 euro PC with my own money, I paid for my 400 euro XB360 with my own money, I paid for my 500 euro PS3 with my own money.

How the hell would he know that? The obnoxious 'rich kidz' thing in your first post told everyone otherwise.

Citrus
28-04-2008, 08:25 AM
I think the 8800GT is about $150 or less if you get it on sale at newegg. the sale ends in a few days I think. There is a thread on it in Hardware / Software.


here's the link for the video card thread:

http://www.halflife2.net/forums/showthread.php?t=140863

Thanks for the info, but I live in England, and newegg only deliver to America don't they?

By looking at the current games, I would go for a 360. Even though alot of the games are on PC, they would be too high spec for me to play.

MultiVaC
28-04-2008, 09:26 AM
Try setting using the command "cg_fov 80" for motion sickness in CoD. The default is 65, which is WAY too low.

VirusType2
28-04-2008, 10:20 AM
Don't forget there are some great games that are only on the PC. I'm not a big gamer, so I can't make a list, but off the top of my head, a couple of HUGELY popular games for PC are World of Warcraft and Eve.


there are other great games only on PC - for example The Witcher. Supposed to be really fantastic according to 340+ voters here:

http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/pc/witcher


I'm going to get that game when I upgrade. I'm getting ready to move right now, so upgrading my PC would be foolish. I may need the money for more furniture or something

Gargantou
28-04-2008, 11:09 AM
How the hell would he know that? The obnoxious 'rich kidz' thing in your first post told everyone otherwise.I dunno, telepathy perhaps? ESP?

Rapstah
28-04-2008, 11:41 AM
It's not your money if your parents gave it to you. :p

AiM
28-04-2008, 11:54 AM
1. Research the list of current and upcoming exclusives
2. Pick which system you'd rather have based on Games and Features
3. ???
4. Profit

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Honestly, asking for opinion between these two consoles is almost like trolling for a flame war. I assume your intentions are genuine, in which case just follow the simple steps above. The problem with asking for other's opinion when it comes to consoles is, people have different taste in games. What others view as the best thing since sliced bread may simply not match your taste.

Gargantou
28-04-2008, 11:58 AM
It's not your money if your parents gave it to you. :pThey didn't, it's money from the state.

1. 105 euro because I'm a student

2. 130 euro because my father passed away early and thus can't support me, I get the 130 until I turn 20.

So all I get is 235 euro a month, but if you have relatives whom are good at investing money etc, that can help quite a bit.

DustWisher
28-04-2008, 12:07 PM
I my self is a Xbox fan and I don't if any one mentioned this,

ps3 aka "piss shit" is coming out with a thing called ps3 home check it out
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyquAXKeEI0

Kyorisu
28-04-2008, 12:10 PM
I'm not going to bother doing currency transactions here but the kids with poor parents around these parts get around $200 a fortnight and that increases when they hit 18. However, they must be studying or be working (not earning over a certain cap). Or when they are 18 and living elsewhere they can just claim to be unemployed bogans and get more money.

ps3 aka "piss shit" is coming out with a thing called ps3 home check it out
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyquAXKeEI0

Keep the troll material far away thanks, it's not needed or welcome. All you'll do is start a pointless argument that results in kids crying over nothing.

DustWisher
28-04-2008, 12:38 PM
Ight well any ways Does this even change your mind of liking the ps better then the xbox

Rapstah
28-04-2008, 12:51 PM
They didn't, it's money from the state.

1. 105 euro because I'm a student

2. 130 euro because my father passed away early and thus can't support me, I get the 130 until I turn 20.

So all I get is 235 euro a month, but if you have relatives whom are good at investing money etc, that can help quite a bit.

But then it isn't your money that you earned. I doubt the intention of state funds are to buy expensive video game systems.

Gargantou
28-04-2008, 12:54 PM
The intention of state funds are to give the youth money to spend how they see fit, be it clothes, movies, candy, videogames.

Technically I have to 'earn' the money, seeing as if I were to stop studying(And studying when one's 18+ isn't mandatory), I wouldn't get the money anymore.

I honestly don't get what your problem is?

Basically, one could call it a reward from the state because one chooses to become a better educated citizen and thus be able to contribute more to soceity in the future.

But let's not get into politics now.;)

Rapstah
28-04-2008, 12:55 PM
You're spoiled by the state, that's my problem. :p

Gargantou
28-04-2008, 12:57 PM
So in your opinion, I shouldn't get any money from anyone because that makes me spoiled?

Have you been sniffin' too much glue today?

Kyorisu
28-04-2008, 01:54 PM
The intention of state funds are to give the youth money to spend how they see fit, be it clothes, movies, candy, videogames.

Well here it's meant for the basics but the money is technically the parents until the child is 18. At that stage the 18 year old can then collect the money themselves in their own bank account. Of course many parents simply let their kids have the money and it goes into their bank account anyway.

You are not spoilt and your not leeching off the system as long as you continue to study. Basically everyone can shutup. Garg can spend his money how he wishes. Just the same many think that's a big waste of money so please GTFO with the whole fanboy routine. People are more than happy to stick with a single console as it costs a lot less than buying all of them.

VictimOfScience
28-04-2008, 02:42 PM
I have personally never sniffed glue (with the intention of getting high from it). I have eaten paste however. It was really sweet back when I was a kid so it just seemed like the right thing to do.

That said, I think that reinvesting in one's economy is a good thing. Consumer confidence in the US is at an all-time low and the checks that are being sent out in May will hopefully have some sort of the effect that Bush foresees. Mine will at least. :) I already have all 3 systems though, so I may use this to help the struggling airline industry and go somewhere nice.

Gargantou
28-04-2008, 03:11 PM
Kyorisu, good post, and I will take your advice and stop with my crusade against fanboyism, afterall its only human to be biased.:)

Anyway, as others have said, in the end the most important is your taste in games, best thing you can do is a look at what games are on the PS3 and what are on the 360, and which ones you want the most.

AHA-Lambda
28-04-2008, 04:33 PM
But then it isn't your money that you earned. I doubt the intention of state funds are to buy expensive video game systems.

No the money is intended for exactly as you see fit, I get money for still attending school above the legal age and it is intended for what I want and so I earned it by still continuing to study when I don't need to

Citrus
28-04-2008, 04:59 PM
Comeon guys, this is supposed to be about the PS3/XBOX - not about money from the state.

Fishlore
28-04-2008, 05:33 PM
I laid my late PC to rest last week. I just bought a PS3 this weekend. My thought process:

1. I bought it for the Blueray player, that by itself is a good deal right now but will surely change as time goes on and stand alone players plummet in price.

2. Aside from being a decent blueray player it can play GTA4. This is the main reason I got it when I did. GTA4!!!!

3. I read about a lot of RROD issues and my friends are now starting to experience it themselves at an ever increasing and frankly alarming rate. Didn't want to deal with that.

4. The DVD format, from what I'm beginning to read more and more frequently, is getting close to max capacity for the bigger games on the horizon. Blueray won't be experiencing that for some time to come.

The 360 has plenty of things that made me consider it including a vast games catalog, top notch live service, price and controller. These things weren't enough for me in the end. Still love the 360 though.

AiM
28-04-2008, 09:03 PM
Comeon guys, this is supposed to be about the PS3/XBOX - not about money from the state.

After 5 pages worth of posts, I would hope you'd have picked up on the general consensus we have here:

Research the list of games, pick the system you want that has those games.

Dax
28-04-2008, 10:25 PM
I laid my late PC to rest last week. I just bought a PS3 this weekend. My thought process:

1. I bought it for the Blueray player, that by itself is a good deal right now but will surely change as time goes on and stand alone players plummet in price.

2. Aside from being a decent blueray player it can play GTA4. This is the main reason I got it when I did. GTA4!!!!

3. I read about a lot of RROD issues and my friends are now starting to experience it themselves at an ever increasing and frankly alarming rate. Didn't want to deal with that.

4. The DVD format, from what I'm beginning to read more and more frequently, is getting close to max capacity for the bigger games on the horizon. Blueray won't be experiencing that for some time to come.

The 360 has plenty of things that made me consider it including a vast games catalog, top notch live service, price and controller. These things weren't enough for me in the end. Still love the 360 though.

This.

PS3 is simply more future-proof as someone said.
That's why I'm also considering getting a PS3 this summer.
A year ago I would probably have got a 360...or a Wii.

Bakurei
30-04-2008, 05:29 AM
I almost forgot. Do the same thing as the GTA4 reviewers are saying about which version to get. Choose the one which you have more friends in online. So if most of your friends have PS3 get it if not get 360. Also you should ask your friends if they are going to get one of the consoles in the near future.