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Cavalry
15-12-2007, 07:55 PM
http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x125/hawianstylexa/toyota_supra_twin-turbo.jpg

http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x125/hawianstylexa/sn65-ford-mustang-fastback-cobra-en.jpg

http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x125/hawianstylexa/eclipse6.jpg

http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x125/hawianstylexa/42851PMImagen014.jpg

http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x125/hawianstylexa/97_lincoln_town_car-1.jpg

what do you think?
how can I improve?

Raziaar
15-12-2007, 08:01 PM
I'm not sure what you're trying to accomplish, and since I have no artistic talents, I can't really offer any advice.

Those are some pretty trippy images though. I especially like the first one and second to last.

Cavalry
15-12-2007, 08:03 PM
thanks Raziaar!

I am attempting to master MSPaint

Acepilotf14
15-12-2007, 08:06 PM
What have you been smoking?

Raziaar
15-12-2007, 08:11 PM
thanks Raziaar!

I am attempting to master MSPaint

Out of desire to master MSPaint, or because you lack a more sophisticated paint program?

One that is powerful and free is Gimp. Though I couldn't stand the way all it's windows are floating. I like my paint program to have it's sub windows all docked in a main MDI parent, like photoshop(which I went back to... teehee).

Cavalry
15-12-2007, 08:14 PM
I'm going one step at a time-
paint
MSPaint
Gimp
Photoshop


this way I can be a digital artist,and possibly make some $$$

Raziaar
15-12-2007, 08:15 PM
Good luck. I'm sure there's lots of books out there you can check out from the library and such to learn about the subject matter.

Cavalry
15-12-2007, 08:47 PM
a few more.....

http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x125/hawianstylexa/79-mitsubishi-evo-8.jpg

http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x125/hawianstylexa/img_0182.jpg

http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x125/hawianstylexa/43492_4.jpg

http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x125/hawianstylexa/Lemat.jpg


sorry that most are auto's,there easier to work with IMO

Druckles
15-12-2007, 10:58 PM
What have you done...? You spoilt the cars!

I'm going one step at a time-
paint
MSPaint
Gimp
Photoshop

I don't know what you're doing messing around in Paint, it's an awful program, necessary for little, and anything that you can do in it, you can accomplish far easier in Photoshop.

If you don't have Photoshop already, I'd recommend going for GIMP, because it's free. It's not nearly as good, but I wouldn't suggest pirating PS. Not good.

Good-Tutorials. That's all I can suggest.

this way I can be a digital artist,and possibly make some $$$

No. Just no. That's not how things work.

How old are you?

Pesmerga
15-12-2007, 11:26 PM
http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/3116/77ub9.jpg

Use less filters, use more image editing functions, such as saturations, levels, color curves, brightness, cropping, color overlays, noise corrections, etc. Noise = bad. Filters = mostly bad (very few instances where they are useful).

If you want to learn how to use an image editor, use Photoshop 7. Full stop.

Cavalry
15-12-2007, 11:40 PM
What have you done...? You spoilt the cars!



I don't know what you're doing messing around in Paint, it's an awful program, necessary for little, and anything that you can do in it, you can accomplish far easier in Photoshop.

If you don't have Photoshop already, I'd recommend going for GIMP, because it's free. It's not nearly as good, but I wouldn't suggest pirating PS. Not good.

Good-Tutorials. That's all I can suggest.



No. Just no. That's not how things work.

How old are you?
I am 16,and yes,theres a shop down the street from me that designs decals/vinyl/full body wraps for cars,which is something that I what to get into,but need a certain understanding of image design/rendering programs like photoshop and MSPaint


Pesmerga-thanks for the advice,I'm gonna look for some articles on how to do such things

Raziaar
15-12-2007, 11:47 PM
MsPaint is really not the type of program you want for that type of work. You can create some beautiful works of art in MSPaint, but really it's more effort than it's worth for the average person and more of a bragging thing. Mspaint is just too crude, and you should look into more sophisticated programs like photoshop and the gimp(a less fully featured but still good, and more importantly free program like photoshop).

Pesmerga
15-12-2007, 11:50 PM
Remember that car decals are only a small subset of automotive decoration. It requires a good eye and an artful hand to apply paint brushed designs and stencil-esque designs. There's very little Photoshop involved in car decals, paint brushing, and color changes. It's mostly hands on stuff. If you can't paint the designs yourself by hand, you'll never get a portfolio required for a job of any decent caliber.

Image editors, now days, are a great way to make digital art. If you want to learn how to generate your own designs, learn how to make Vector Art.

Cavalry
16-12-2007, 01:44 AM
do you mean something like this?

http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x125/hawianstylexa/sydney_bridge.jpg

Pesmerga
16-12-2007, 04:43 AM
No... I said stop using filters. They're ugly.

The idea of image editing is that you take something that already looks nice and slightly modify it so it has either a different hue of color, a stronger contrast, a superimposed object, painting over watermarks, or just using a combination of good images to create a composition of them together. It's not for ... well, filters. They may look cool... at first... but you'll soon realize they're ruining the original image.

Naph
16-12-2007, 04:49 AM
D: worthy.

Designing vinyls require mainly shapes. Produce sketches and work out what you like, then reproduce them onto a program (I use photoshop and would recommend it, highly) You can't expect to gain experience with filters that anyone can use.

I think you should go down to the shop, and ask about what they did to achieve the artwork, and start practicing exactly that.

Raziaar
16-12-2007, 02:02 PM
They may look cool... at first... but you'll soon realize they're ruining the original image.

All depends on what look you're going for, really.

Dodo
16-12-2007, 02:12 PM
please stop inverting images, it makes my eyes bleed :'(

-dodo

Cavalry
16-12-2007, 04:57 PM
this is nothing more then some contrast adjustment

http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x125/hawianstylexa/mitsubishi-wide-bodykit.jpg

Dodo-those aren't inverted,its simply a change in hue and sharpness


EDIT-The sky has a more stormish look to it

http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x125/hawianstylexa/ovalstylizedflamegreencopy1.jpg

Pesmerga
17-12-2007, 11:04 PM
You're getting the idea.

Try and have an idea for the theme of the image you're making. Black and white, portrait, summer fun, racing, etc.

Here's a plaint white version of the first car in front of a gradient background.

http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/1788/mitsubishiwidebodykitov8.png

The lines need anti-aliasing, but icba.

Cavalry
18-12-2007, 01:45 AM
how would I go about making a racing themed image Pesmerga?
I see kinda what your saying,but I often go for a dark,storm-like scene around the primary focus of the image
btw,I downloaded GIMP
and,I took the advice and went down to the shop,one worker said he usually sketches a design,then works out any kinks(smoothness and such)in a photoshop-like program,prints it on a vinyl,puts it on a paint table,and airbrushes color and inside design to it

in my study hall today,I began sketching a flame/tear design that I'll finish and enhance tomorrow

Krynn72
18-12-2007, 11:17 PM
How do you even do that stuff in paint? I didnt even know there were hue/saturation features in it.

Naph
18-12-2007, 11:43 PM
How do you even do that stuff in paint? I didnt even know there were hue/saturation features in it.

That's MSPaint, he uses Paint (http://www.photo-freeware.net/ultimate-paint.php)

It probably isn't the same one, but some other open source program.

Cavalry
19-12-2007, 12:02 AM
no,I used this-
http://www.getpaint.net/

Raziaar
19-12-2007, 03:52 AM
I don't know about the quality of that program, but it certainly looks far more advanced than MSpaint, much like a photoshop style application. Good place to start from, just as good as gimp or others, depending on how well reviewed it is.

Cavalry
19-12-2007, 10:37 PM
some decaying city stuffs(Chernobyl mainly,its kinda hard to find deserted cities on google and yahoo)-

Vauxall Cross section of Chernobyl-
http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x125/hawianstylexa/VauxhallCrossMI6.jpg


some random shipping warehouses(first one is highly saturated)-
http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x125/hawianstylexa/04-06-Chernobyl_IK-08.jpg

some as above,but,more of a night time shot-
http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x125/hawianstylexa/04-06-Chernobyl_IK-081.jpg



I have more,but none of which are 100% done
also,these were made on Gimp

KineticAesthetic
19-12-2007, 11:12 PM
Okay...

I don't want to discourage you. BUT...

It looks like all you're doing is using filters on downloaded images. Do correct me if I'm wrong.

For this reason, I do not understand what you're trying to do. If you want to get into design with computers, that's not really what you need to learn.

But...

Yeah, I dunno.

Cavalry
19-12-2007, 11:16 PM
ys,they are existing images,but,I use only color curves/hue/saturation/contrast/brightness adjustments

Seppo
19-12-2007, 11:17 PM
yeah that's kinda what I was thinking. But I guess you have to start somewhere, like BowSniper said himself step by step