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The Monkey
06-10-2007, 07:54 PM
Which band or artist is in your opinion the most overrated? This is not a question of the worst artist ever; you might even think it's good, but not nearly as good as what other people say.

Lucid
06-10-2007, 08:33 PM
NIN.
5char

theotherguy
06-10-2007, 09:12 PM
Beatles
Rap
Nirvana
NIN
My Chemical Romance

Qonfused
06-10-2007, 09:14 PM
Yeah that Trent guy is overrated.

The Monkey
06-10-2007, 09:26 PM
Elvis Presley for me.

sinkoman
06-10-2007, 10:35 PM
NIN
Sgt. Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band (I know, not a band, but same idea)
Nirvana
Daft Punk

DreamThrall
07-10-2007, 12:08 AM
Metallica.

Absinthe
07-10-2007, 12:14 AM
Any "rock god" before the 80's.

If I have to hear one more rant about how music ain't as good as it used to be and how - like - Hendrix is the best musician ever in the history of music, I will shit on you.

Stigmata
07-10-2007, 12:25 AM
The Beatles, Nirvana, Black Sabbath, Pink Floyd, Led Zeppelin, and Metallica.

Seriously, they were good, but shut the **** up about them already, they're all dead (either literally or artistically).

ComradeBadger
07-10-2007, 01:01 AM
Aphex Twin
Tool
NIN

sinkoman
07-10-2007, 02:44 AM
Aphex Twin
Tool
NIN

Yes yes and... YES!

Vegeta897
07-10-2007, 02:47 AM
Aphex Twin
How dare you.

You don't even understand half the things he does.

Cormeh
07-10-2007, 02:51 AM
The Beatles
White album. Now.

NOW!

Errr, yeah. Best not start some flame thing. Although I disagree about NiN and Beatles.

Anyhow - Radiohead. Never liked them, never felt them as good as everyone says. Except perhaps for Creep.

Geogaddi
07-10-2007, 02:54 AM
U2

Jesus Christ.

Qonfused
07-10-2007, 03:23 AM
Inb4elitist assh

How dare you.

You don't even understand half the things he does.

Nevermind.

Zephos
07-10-2007, 03:34 AM
Nirvana is one of my favourite bands and even I'm willing to admit they are over-rated :D

Vegeta897
07-10-2007, 04:02 AM
There's a difference between something being over-rated and you not liking it.

I'm pretty sure 99 percent of the people who like the kind of music Aphex Twin makes, agree that Aphex Twin is one of the best artists in the genre.

That's not over-rated.

sinkoman
07-10-2007, 04:24 AM
There's a difference between something being over-rated and you not liking it.

I'm pretty sure 99 percent of the people who like the kind of music Aphex Twin makes, agree that Aphex Twin is one of the best artists in the genre.

That's not over-rated.

I'd say that that half the home-made electronica out there is bounds better than Aphex Twin.

His songs are complex and detailed, but that doesn't make them all good. Alot of them sound intricate just for the hell of it, not to actually incite emotion.

In any case, what is "overrated" is almost always biased and opinionated. It's impossible for one to speak on behalf of the musical community as a whole.

co05
07-10-2007, 04:26 AM
I agree on Radiohead. They're just too bland.

co05
07-10-2007, 04:30 AM
In any case, what is "overrated" is almost always biased and opinionated. It's impossible for one to speak on behalf of the musical community as a whole.

QFT
5char

evil^milk
07-10-2007, 04:38 AM
Coldplay.

Vegeta897
07-10-2007, 05:50 AM
His songs are complex and detailed, but that doesn't make them all good. Alot of them sound intricate just for the hell of it, not to actually incite emotion.
How much have you heard? Only a handful of Aphex Twin is very complicated. And even those still have plenty of substance besides the drum programming.

The man has been called a genius countless times by critics who know their stuff. He's like the top guy of electronic music. I don't care if you like his music or not, he is an incredible musician.

Over rated is when so many people like a band that doesn't really have that much talent. AKA they don't deserve the rating they gets. They would be over-rated.

soulslicer
07-10-2007, 05:51 AM
yes, was going to say coldplay too

oasis is really awesome, but yes, they are kind of overrated..

co05
07-10-2007, 08:17 AM
Over rated is when so many people like a band that doesn't really have that much talent. AKA they don't deserve the rating they gets. They would be over-rated.

All about opinions opinions opinions opinions opinions opinions opinions opinions opinions.

sinkoman
07-10-2007, 08:57 AM
Over rated is when so many people like a band that doesn't really have that much talent. AKA they don't deserve the rating they gets. They would be over-rated.

And whether or not a band has talent is usually based entirely on opinion.

Zephos
07-10-2007, 09:19 AM
Ladies, ladies... I do believe this song (http://youtube.com/watch?v=L7p2h2Lgpqg) proves without a doubt that Aphex Twin have/has talent.

Bad^Hat
07-10-2007, 10:51 AM
Urgh.

UUUUUUUUUUUUURGH.

Just hearing that ****ing word makes my HEAD hurt.

I think my balls are bleeding.

soulslicer
07-10-2007, 11:42 AM
oh my god..getting ..getting attracted to song..

no..

sinkoman
07-10-2007, 11:44 AM
What's the one aphex twin song, with the insanely weird drum track, and the music video was claymation?

That song owns.

Shift
07-10-2007, 12:18 PM
Well ---> IMO <---

-My Chemical Romance (personally I think they are shocking)
-NIN

knut
07-10-2007, 01:11 PM
Led Zeppelin, Jimi Hendrix, The Beatles for sure. Boring music? No thanks.

Sulkdodds
07-10-2007, 01:54 PM
I would say stuff like My Chemical Romance but to be honest they're not that overrated as they're hardly regarded as classics. Same as U2. Lots of people dislike them. They're big, but they'd need to be adored universally without reason to be the MOST OVERRATED BAND EVER.

I can't think of anything 'cos I like the Beatles etc. Maybe Frank Sinatra. Most of that era of music is just shit. Jazz was the only vaguely interesting thing going on.

The Monkey
07-10-2007, 04:04 PM
The Who

Qonfused
07-10-2007, 06:53 PM
The man has been called a genius countless times by critics who know their stuff. He's like the top guy of electronic music. I don't care if you like his music or not, he is an incredible musician.

That doesn't make any goddamn sense. A shitty band could be ****ing pushed through the roof in album reviews, but I can still think they're shitty. Ratings do not mean I'm obligated to sit back and go, "That band is really ****ing shitty, but, you know, they get good reviews so, they're not too bad after all I guess since a lot of people like them." Wait; did I just define over-rated? Shit.

knut
07-10-2007, 07:05 PM
I'm going to have to agree with Qonfused here. Regardless of how original someone is, or technically talented, or creative, or whatever else... if he makes music that I can't say ''this is good stuff'' to, then I couldn't really care about him or them/the artists.

Personally I wouldn't say Aphex Twin is overrated at all but it's horses for courses, innit?

Qonfused
07-10-2007, 07:40 PM
I don't believe AFX is overrated either. Veggie's logic was so out of wack, I had to post.

Absinthe
07-10-2007, 08:03 PM
As much as it makes me weep to hear people calling Mr. Phex overrated, he probably is to some degree. SAW1 and the RDJ Album were definitely landmarks, but oh my god... the incessant fawning even gave me some doubts. Besides, I think his days as a trailblazer are over. He brought electronic music to the living room, he shaped most IDM as it is today, influenced countless artists, and he made a ****load of cash in the process. I imagine he's simply content to ride it out from here and make Acid all day. Or at least until a new style comes along and catches his interest.

Geogaddi
07-10-2007, 08:15 PM
What's the one aphex twin song, with the insanely weird drum track, and the music video was claymation?

That song owns.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=toS-QvUtbfY

It's called On

Unfocused
07-10-2007, 08:19 PM
Radiohead
NiN

first ones that came to mind after reading the thread.

Absinthe
07-10-2007, 08:22 PM
This thread contains too much blasphemy that offends my fine senses.

Oh, and "On" for the god damn ****ing win.

Vegeta897
07-10-2007, 09:02 PM
That doesn't make any goddamn sense. A shitty band could be ****ing pushed through the roof in album reviews, but I can still think they're shitty. Ratings do not mean I'm obligated to sit back and go, "That band is really ****ing shitty, but, you know, they get good reviews so, they're not too bad after all I guess since a lot of people like them." Wait; did I just define over-rated? Shit.
That is exactly what I said, man. I said that you don't have to like someone to understand that they are a good musician. I don't like country music, but I understand that there is plenty of talent in there, obviously. I don't understand how you misinterpreted what I said. I specifically said the taste in music or taste in an artist's style has nothing to do with how over-rated an artist is. When a shitty band is pushed through the roof with album reviews, YES, that's over-rated! You CAN think they are shitty! They most likely are! That's your opinion!


:x

Ennui
07-10-2007, 09:09 PM
I want to bitch at like everyone in this thread (probably because I'm a huge Aphex Twin, NIN, Radiohead, and Zeppelin fan).

Dynasty
07-10-2007, 09:13 PM
Rage Against The Machine
System Of A Down

Crap names, crap music.

Stigmata
07-10-2007, 09:56 PM
Oh my god, RAGE.

I ****ing HATE Rage Against the Machine. HATEHATEHATEHATEHATE. It's the rock equivalent of crunk music. ****ing hate it so much.

Keane
07-10-2007, 10:43 PM
Oh my god, RAGE.

I ****ing HATE Rage Against the Machine. HATEHATEHATEHATEHATE. It's the rock equivalent of crunk music. ****ing hate it so much.

Wow, I'm glad I'm not the only one with this opinion. :D

I also can't stand the Gorillaz.

Sulkdodds
07-10-2007, 11:35 PM
Keane.

Ha HA!

Qonfused
08-10-2007, 12:10 AM
Oh my god, RAGE.

I ****ing HATE Rage Against the Machine. HATEHATEHATEHATEHATE. It's the rock equivalent of crunk music. ****ing hate it so much.

I was at a party last night and that's all they played.

****.

Keane
08-10-2007, 12:14 AM
Keane.

Ha HA!

It's my last name; I'm not a fan of the band at all. :p

TollBooth Willie
08-10-2007, 12:32 AM
System of a Down

Sheeeeeeiiiiit man.

French Ninja
08-10-2007, 01:18 AM
Fallout Boy

I constantly hear them at college and I think they are horrible.

Ennui
08-10-2007, 01:21 AM
System of a Down does suck, but Rage is awesome. This thread is full of haters.

soulslicer
08-10-2007, 07:12 AM
Rage is awesome. Bad people you all..bad people..

Absinthe
08-10-2007, 07:21 AM
I also consider Rage overrated.

venturon
08-10-2007, 07:23 AM
Ladies, ladies... I do believe this song (http://youtube.com/watch?v=L7p2h2Lgpqg) proves without a doubt that Aphex Twin have/has talent.

Oh you bastard! Catchy tune though. What's with the comments?

Case in point: My girlfriend said the only way I could get her to do a threeway is if I got Rick Astley to join in. The ironic part is I was thinking the same thing.

I think one of the most over-rated artists is Frank Zappa.

bam23
08-10-2007, 07:23 AM
I like Rage. :D

Sulkdodds
08-10-2007, 07:33 AM
I also consider Rage overrated.Actually, here's one I totally agree with. I mean, I quite like them. But I wouldn't want to listen to them for more than 10 minutes.

Viperidae
08-10-2007, 08:43 AM
Everything in this thread is overrated.

This thread is overrated.

Shift
08-10-2007, 08:49 AM
In terms of riffs, Rage are ****ing awsome lol, but the singing aint really my cup of tea.

sinkoman
08-10-2007, 11:26 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=toS-QvUtbfY

It's called On

Actually, it isn't.

Found it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdZs5PVcwBs

Another one of those songs that's just so beautiful, that I feel like crying when I hear it ;(

Absinthe
08-10-2007, 01:08 PM
Well, "On" was as close as I figured because that "Boy/Girl" video is pretty much a fan film made by David Firth.

The Monkey
08-10-2007, 01:30 PM
This thread is overrated.
;(

On topic, Chuck Berry and Rolling Stones.

Raxxman
08-10-2007, 02:22 PM
Coldplay.

One song ponies who at somepoint were considered by a large number of people the best current British band in the world.

Stigmata
08-10-2007, 05:22 PM
In terms of riffs, Rage are ****ing awsome lol, but the singing aint really my cup of tea.I find their riffs quite boring actually.

Pulse
08-10-2007, 06:01 PM
Whilst I find them awesome.

bam23
08-10-2007, 11:49 PM
The best riffs to listen to while you're driving :P

Que-Ever
09-10-2007, 12:01 AM
On sounds like farting over piano.

Apparently Apehx Twin takes potentially good, likeable classical music and ****s it up with shitty, complicated drum beats. But that's just judging from these two videos and a couple others I've seen before.

ComradeBadger
09-10-2007, 12:07 AM
That is exactly what I said, man. I said that you don't have to like someone to understand that they are a good musician. I don't like country music, but I understand that there is plenty of talent in there, obviously. I don't understand how you misinterpreted what I said. I specifically said the taste in music or taste in an artist's style has nothing to do with how over-rated an artist is. When a shitty band is pushed through the roof with album reviews, YES, that's over-rated! You CAN think they are shitty! They most likely are! That's your opinion!


:x

I never said he was bad and I never said I didn't like him either. It's not my thing, but I can appricate talent - what I don't appricate is nearly every other person on the internet furiously masterbating over Aphex Twin.

CrazyHarij
09-10-2007, 03:45 AM
yes aphex is definitely overrated in the sense that most ppl who listen to him think hes the end all of music, and its ironic that the same ppl imitate his style when hes all about originality. that aside he kicks ass, but so do a load of acts out there!

Vegeta897
09-10-2007, 04:09 AM
I don't think that. I regard Venetian Snares just about as highly as Aphex. Venetian Snares has a way different style than Aphex Twin and I love both.

Absinthe
09-10-2007, 10:02 AM
On sounds like farting over piano.

Apparently Apehx Twin takes potentially good, likeable classical music and ****s it up with shitty, complicated drum beats. But that's just judging from these two videos and a couple others I've seen before.

That's, like, the only one.

knut
09-10-2007, 12:16 PM
I like Aphex Twin but theres also a **** load of tracks out there I dislike of his. I couldn't get into the Richard D. James Album at all, save for the track '4'. ...i care because you do is also pretty 50/50 for me.

Absinthe
09-10-2007, 12:20 PM
I love most of his Aphex releases. It's some of the side stuff that makes me scratch my head.

As a guy who self-admittedly puts out a lot of shit and pulls jokes on his listeners, I guess that's expected. Although I don't know how you can't like "To Cure A Weakling Child". D:

Kouler
09-10-2007, 01:31 PM
-All post-rock bands are overrated and overplayed.
-Nirvana.
-Avenged Sevenfold.
-Foo Fighters.
-Every major influential figure pre-70's, quite frankly I find boring.
-Radiohead has some pretty cool stuff but does get bland.
-Muse is pretty overrated, despite having some good tracks.
-Most metalcore bands get more attention than they deserve.
-A lot of guitar virtuoso's are overrated, like Yngwie Malmsteen.
-Ministry isn't terribly exciting a lot of the time.
-Johnny Cash.

Thats about all I can think of at the top of my head.

soulslicer
09-10-2007, 01:38 PM
bon jovi, his new album that is.. It is not at all that fantastic compared to his older ones..

Icarusintel
09-10-2007, 08:05 PM
So, basically, this is a "what band do you not like?" thread...


Yay for opinions, I guess...

The Monkey
09-10-2007, 09:04 PM
So, basically, this is a "what band do you not like?" thread...


Yay for opinions, I guess...
Read the first post.

But yeah, I guess that's how it turns out most of the time.

Viperidae
09-10-2007, 09:05 PM
Joking aside: Timbaland. I don't normally mind the assinine mythology that gets taped onto hip hop producers. He has made some catchy, popular tracks. He knows how to fit different elements together well. But when people I know constantly laud him for being a genius and being teh bestest evar, I start to scoff.

Last year I was asked by a girl what I listen to. 'Mostly techno-type stuff [techno being the choice word because I didn't think she'd understand electronic/trance],' I said, to which she responded, 'Oh, you'll like Way I Are then! It's part techno.' To which I later listened and had a moment of facepalming. A PW-sounding accompaniment synth does not constitute an electronic track. And yet it's that, coupled with people's ignorance, that make people think he's original and incorporates other genres when he introduces one common element from songs in those genres into his own (similar to Usher having Lil Jon in 'Yeah!').

The whole Janne Sunni thing sealed it for me. Again, it's not like other artists haven't stolen before. It was his whole candid attitude, drawling in his barely-English speech about how it doesn't matter that he stole because he's rich. Great, another pretentious, RIAA-protected prick who's crushing smaller artists.

Wanted Bob
09-10-2007, 10:19 PM
NIN has some good songs, but I dont like them as much as other people do. Personally, I got what I expected from MCR (which basically means I liked them). And I really like Avenged Sevenfold! Since when do they get that much publicity anyways? Ive seen them in one video game liscence. Otherwise, I never wouldve heard of them.

Also, as much as people may hate me for saying this, I like John Mayer, but not as much as other people do. I think he has some really good songs, but seriously I dont think hes all people lead him to be.

soulslicer
10-10-2007, 08:52 AM
kayne west lol..

but he is a good rapper though..

Bad^Hat
10-10-2007, 05:23 PM
-All post-rock bands are overrated and overplayed.
*cough* Overplayed? Where?

knut
10-10-2007, 05:31 PM
Yeah, that's what I thought. :\ Apart from Mogwai, post-rock is fairly unheard of over here. I know the US/Canada has got a pretty big scene with bands like EitS, A Silver Mt. Zion, This Will Destroy You, etc, but I don't think it's possible for bands like these to be overrated or overplayed. But, it's opinion, so fair enough :cheers:

soulslicer
10-10-2007, 05:52 PM
God is an astronaut, don't ever forget that band when mentioning post-rock. I love that genre..and that band.

knut
10-10-2007, 06:10 PM
They're okay, but nothing compared to the bands I mentioned, in my opinion. Postrock get's kind of samey after a while - a lot of bands out there doing exactly what the band in front is doing. A shame.

Bad^Hat
10-10-2007, 06:27 PM
Yeah, you do see alot of patterns repeating themselves. But then, strip the vocals from any other genre and you'd probably be able to say the same.