Big Daddies

[Flyingdebris]

Jesus Christ they take a lot of killing on hard mode.
What are you guyses' experiences on taking these down?

Last one i took down involved using up an assload of eve hypos to keep me shocking it while i hosed it with tommygun fire as i desperately backpeddled where i hoped would not be dead ends. Meanwhile it kept getting ridiculous close to me, often landing some nasty hits that caused me to burn through medkits.

[Tyguy]

ya, im having trouble on medium. I keep lighting him on fire as well as pumping shotgun slugs into him but it takes forever. I have only killed one as as im having a hard enough time with the damn splicers :)

[TheAntipop]

I got hold of some armour piercing shells in the demo... do they not have any effect?

[Gunner]

-electric buck
-armor piercing tommy rounds

Shoot & Run.

[Adrik_Senturu]

Yeah electric buck and armor piercing tommy rounds are the best. Best to have a plasmid that also keeps them in place for a bit. Early levels would be lightning, and after that the bee hive plasmid thing works nicely for distracting them, also damages them a bit over time.

[Asus]

I've been playing on hard as well and they are tough. Going through resources like crazy. I bet I would do better if I restarted though. Early on I spent money on more med kits but if I had done better then I wouldn't have needed those. And I would have been able to buy more armor piercing rounds.

[Flyingdebris]

the only armor piercing rounds i have at this point are handgun rounds :(

I have lots of tommygun ammo and Anti personel rounds for it, and i got lots of OO buck and a few electric shells

damn hard mode is hard, who would've thought?

[hool10]

ya, im having trouble on medium. I keep lighting him on fire as well as pumping shotgun slugs into him but it takes forever. I have only killed one as as im having a hard enough time with the damn splicers :)
Splicers go down fast with a HS or anti-personel rounds. Also the electricity only gives you a time frame of 3 seconds to do something.

[Gunner]

I've been playing on hard as well and they are tough. Going through resources like crazy. I bet I would do better if I restarted though. Early on I spent money on more med kits but if I had done better then I wouldn't have needed those. And I would have been able to buy more armor piercing rounds.

I'm gonna restart today too, I made some bad choices. I play on hard and I die at least a dozen times before I can manage to kill the daddies. Gonna save my adam this time around.

I'm in Arcadia right now and I'm spending more time reloading my last save than actually progressing.

God I love this game. I really enjoy hacking stuff too. I hack every machine I see, doesn't matter if I won't use it. I just want to hack it. I died once to a safe when it overloaded haha :D

[Fliko]

Electric shots are your friend.
That or you can freeze the Big Daddys' and shatter them with a bucket full of lead

[Tick]

electric gel

[DeusExMachina]

Upgrade those guns. And use armor piercing. I took one down with just armor piercing pistol rounds. Incinerate's a pretty good bet too.

[Asus]

I love it when there are a lot of enemies around and a big daddy. Or better yet, 2 big daddies. Rage ftw.

[Letters]

I've only killed one so far without getting sent to the vita chamber. :P And I've killed quite a few. I seriously love not having to quicksave and reload all the fking time though... so while they may be hard as hell, it's still fun.

[Hazar]

throwing explosive barrels and other debris at them is also pretty effective.

[GordonFreeman911]

I love it when there are a lot of enemies around and a big daddy. Or better yet, 2 big daddies. Rage ftw.

I can't wait untill the cheats come out for this game.

[Adrik_Senturu]

I just found that the electric gel for the chemical thrower is god damn amazing for the big daddies. You need the less ammo upgrade for it to be useful though. The gel electrifies them and damages them at steady rate, so they pretty much just stand there while you chip away at their health. If you dont kill them with the gel, by the time you run out of it you can finish em off with a few shot gun shots or armor piercing rounds from either the tommy gun or pistol.

[Steel.Inferno]

I'm restarting tomorrow as I made a ton of mistakes and there is a bunch of stuff I want to check out. The game really isn't as linear as it first appears, which is great.

The most effective way for me was to set up a pile of ye olde explosive barrels, some prox mines, and then pump as much electric gel into it as possible (Note, these were generally bouncers, not rosies), when that runs out, move such so that it rushes the trap, and boom :D.

But damn, I was NOT expecting big daddies to be this hard from the videos and such. They are nigh indestructible until you get heavy weapons.

[BHC]

Electric shots are your friend.
That or you can freeze the Big Daddys' and shatter them with a bucket full of lead

Don't shatter big daddies! They drop monies and some other rare loots.

now, would you KINDLY stop shattering big daddies

[xombine]

I've found explosive buck to be extremely effective against them.

[Kyorisu]

Eventually it becomes piss easy to take them down when you get a hold of trap bolt.

[Tyguy]

I was surprised to see that the big daddies dont get along with eachother. I was fighting one of them and was pretty much getting my ass handed to me, so I just lit him on fire and tried to hide. Then I see another one come in and figured I was done for. He walked right over to the first one and started beating the shit out of him, meanwhile catching on fire. They both die at the same time and i harvest both little girls....

[Sedako]

The best method I've found is to use the electric gel from the chemical sprayer. They are locked down as long as you keep the beam on them.

[DeusExMachina]

Don't cross the streams. That would be very bad.

[Gunner]

Oh hey something I forgot to mention. Take pictures of little sisters and rosies. If you're going down the righteous path, you'll appreciate the little bonus from the sisters pictures. As for the rosies, well I haven't researched past level 2 but the ++ damage increase is really helpful.

[Tyguy]

do you eventually learn what happened to the city and why it was turned upside down or is it presumed the invention of plasmids did that?

(please no spoilers)

[Adrik_Senturu]

do you eventually learn what happened to the city and why it was turned upside down or is it presumed the invention of plasmids did that?

(please no spoilers)

A large portion of the info you get about the city comes from diaries so learning about the city depends on whether or not your picking up diaries. They're easy to find though.

[Fliko]

Don't shatter big daddies! They drop monies and some other rare loots.

now, would you KINDLY stop shattering big daddies

I only did it once.
Trap Bolts work nicely, I usually set up five and just bait the Big Daddy through them
I hate it when a weapon accidentally hits a friendly big daddy, and they just go psycho. I remember having to face 2 Big Daddies, and like, 4 Spider Slicers. It was pretty intense but nothing a lot of explosions didn't fix

[ELITE COMBINE]

I whacked one over and over with a wrench :D Normally I just shock em and use the shotgun on em takes only 30 seconds.

[ELITE COMBINE]

How come all the big daddys look the same? I like the bouncer big daddys there cooler looking. all I find is rosly or whatever there called.

[ĐynastҰ]

ya, im having trouble on medium. I keep lighting him on fire as well as pumping shotgun slugs into him but it takes forever. I have only killed one as as im having a hard enough time with the damn splicers :)

Have to agree. If you play on medium and take autoaim off on the 360 version, just hitting the splicers with any form of eve hypo becomes a mission. And when 4 or 5 are coming at you, you nail your medic packs.

I actually love how this game is challenging, full of story and is LONG. Its like the ultimate FPS. Helps that its so damn cool too.

Ive yet to take on a Big Daddy, i cant wait though.

[ELITE COMBINE]

Ive yet to take on a Big Daddy, i cant wait though.[/QUOTE]

It sounds like You have not gotten very far in the game :| Cause its not long before You get to fight one.

[ELITE COMBINE]

Ok.. that quote came out messed up.

[ĐynastҰ]

Yeah but ive been watching my Bro's 2 kids, and one of them has ADD, so its like trying to play games with the riddler sat next to you.

Therefore ive got about 5 mins past where the demo finishes, before i wanted to scream at him...and let the 2 of them play other games while i worked around the house...

Only thing thats keeping me going is the fact that his dad picks them up in 20 mins *prays* so i can finally sit down and play it properly.

[ELITE COMBINE]

Medical pavillen or w/e is scary as crap cause of the doctor splicers that jump out and attack plus you see alota dead bodys with blood everywere and ahh its so creepy:eek: Not to spoil the small boss fight at the end of medical part but the guy you fight ehh just wait till you see what he has done.

[ELITE COMBINE]

What exACTLY are big daddys?

[DeusExMachina]

Wait until you get further in the game dammit. Stop spoiling everything for yourself.

[ELITE COMBINE]

YOu HAVE ANNOYED ME FOR THE LAST TIME! *throws a fish at you* but ok ill wait

[Cormeh]

Okay - why the **** are these things ****ing near impossible to fight?

Being tough I can appreciate - but this is ridiculous.

Just ran into my first one, Atlas tells me I'm ready to take it down, and retrieve Adam from the little Sister. OK, I'm full on medkits and Eve shots, so I blast away with the electric plasmid and armour piercing pistol rounds/electric buckshot.

Not only does the thing take all of my medkits and my last entire bar of health to go down, but I find you can't even avoid the stupid ****ing thing. It slows your movement down, and its attacks are just unavoidable.

No worry I say, it's dead, back to the Vito Chamber and I'll collect the spoils. I get to its corpse - ANOTHER ****ING THING
APPEARS. WHAT THE **** IS THIS SHIT?

Man, I'm so angry right now. I was doing well and settling nicely into the whole game. I hope I'm missing something, but from the way that baattle went, I doubt it.

[DeusExMachina]

Dodge. Dodging is always good. And make sure you're not missing with the armor piercing or standing 30 feet away with the shotgun.

[Cormeh]

I've been trying to dodge, but when they clock me, the screen goes all shaky (I think they stomp their feet) which slows me right down, even jumping out of the way is difficult. Even if I do manage it, I haven't dodged far away enough to stop the thing from turning round and smacking me one.

Obviously I'm not pegging it at range with the shotgun. :p

Reall, really tearing my hair out.

[ELITE COMBINE]

You got problems if you can't kill a big daddy cause there soo easy to me. I killed the first one in 20 seconds. try and jump when he goes to stomp his feet.

[Asus]

Try being near a corner so it's harder for them to charge you.

[DeusExMachina]

Also if you got the chemical thrower, load up some electric gel or napalm and just **** em up. One canister should be enough.

[TheAntipop]

The first Big Daddy I fought and won against was in Neptunes Bounty, on the lower wharf I think. The same place where there was an old video showing how you hack gun turrets. I hacked both turrets, waited for the Rosie to walk into the water in the middle of the room then zapped him with my electro plasmid. The gun turrets opened up on him, he was caught in the middle of the room and from there I just dodged and weaved around him, constantly keeping him pinned down with bolts of electricity and then pumping explosive shotgun rounds into him.

The second I fought, which was in the same place, was wandering around with a few Splicers near it, so I zapped them with the infuriate (is that it? I can't remember now, the plasmid that sends enemies crazy) so they started mindless attacking the Rosie then I hopped into the fight with my shotgun and did virtually the same. Unfortunatly, that Big Daddy wasn't with a Little Sister, so it was abit of a waste really.

[Evo]

I <3 Big Daddy's!

The way they interact with the Little Sisters, looking after them, guiding them and guarding them. Love it! Also the way they shove you out of the way if you block them shows how they won't get into a fight for no reason, only if actively provoked!

Also great when they are alone without a Little Sister, they seem so dejected and alone, you just empathise with them so much!

/blatant rip-off of Sui

:D

[ELITE COMBINE]

I like makeing them under my control. That hypno plasmid is great if theres a bunch of splicers comeing at you and theres a big daddy near by. Its like total destruction.

[Evo]

Wow :O

Just saw one trudging along all alone in the water! I just gazed at him through the window :D

[Cormeh]

Whew. Finally finished off the BD in the medical pavillion.... just electro plasmid and a shit-load of electric buck seemed to pin it down enough to continuously pound it. A few armour-piercing rounds in between risky shotgun reloads too.

Bit of practise never done me much harm, I managed to rescue every little sister at Neptunes Bounty that are protected by "Rosies" (The rivet gun bastards).

NOW the game is really becoming excellent.

[ELITE COMBINE]

Your a big daddy killer I don't like you :frown: All they want to do is protect the little brats. Otherwise they are friendly and just shove you outta the way. I was just playing and I found one in farmers market winery basement. No little sister it was just there. SO i brought another big daddy down there and shot the one and had em fight each other. IT was funny they just whack each other with their guns over and over.

[Gargantou]

Is it really that hard to finish the game without getting all the little sisters? I just completed the dwarf level, and it constantly warned me about how I hadnt harvested all the little sisters and the game would be "SUBSTANTIALLY HARDER IF YOU DIDN'T OOOOH SCARY!!"
So I'm wondernig, is it really that hard or should I just ignore the warning?

[DeusExMachina]

Well if you like having new and more plasmids and tonics, then yeah you'd want it.

[TheAntipop]

There was a time when I did feel sorry for a Big Daddy. It walked through the middle of a firefight I was having with about seven Thuggish/Houdini splicers and it caught ALOT of flak from myself them them. Bees everywhere, water being shocked left and right, fireballs being thrown here and there, grenades bouncing off the walls... it didn't even kill anyone, everyone just turned their attention to the Rosie and literally ripped it apart.

[Gargantou]

Guess I could always do it on a second playthrough eh.

[jimbo118]

Wow :O

Just saw one trudging along all alone in the water! I just gazed at him through the window :D

yeah i almost jumped when i saw one in the basement of mcdonagh's pub outside the window in the water trudging along...

[Gargantou]

I never went to McDonaghs pub :( Was too lazy.

[jimbo118]

I never went to McDonaghs pub :( Was too lazy.

you have to though no? for the research camera mission, that guy(cant remember his name) tasks you with getting pictures of the splicers that crawl on walls, one is located in the pub in apartment 5 or sumit, it was in a HINT i read saying that a splicer i have to research is located there...

[Gargantou]

All I did was open hte door in hte hub between the pub and that other room with the other creature, at the door was the spider, so I just photoed it and ran all the way back to the big room.:p

[Fliko]

Whew. Finally finished off the BD in the medical pavillion.... just electro plasmid and a shit-load of electric buck seemed to pin it down enough to continuously pound it. A few armour-piercing rounds in between risky shotgun reloads too.
Electric Bucks should naturally stun the Big Daddy.

Use your environment people! If there's a pillar, strafe around the pillar making sure the Big Daddy is behind you, it'll make it harder for him to charge/shoot you.
And if they stomp you, you can still dodge them if you keep on moving in one direction. I've never got hit after they stomped, they'd always miss me by a hair.

[ĐynastҰ]

Getting close i found is best. Bolt, shotgun, bolt, shotgun, bolt, shotgun, run as you eve up, rinse and repeat.

BDs with weapons are the most annoying as they just nail you no matter where you hide.

[ELITE COMBINE]

bolt shotgun is my stratigy. :flame:

[Bad^Hat]

I just started again on hard mode, since hunting the 'daddies is really one of my favourite parts of this game, and it was just getting way too easy on normal. Once you can set up trap bolts and proximity mines, not even the elite ones pose much of a threat. Just lead em through a few of those then waste em with electric gel. All too simple.

Hard mode's a bit better so far. I'm already secretly hoping they'll come out with an expert mode or something though - am I the only one that never runs short of ammo unless I have to fight 2 or 3 daddies consecutively?

[staticprimer]

I usually do target dummy/electric buck/AP rifle combo, seems to work well for me. One time I lured one into a trio of friendly turrets, which made short work of it, with some help from me.

[TheAntipop]

Yeah, I always hack turrets for these situations. Made REALLY short work of a Rosie in the security department in Neptunes Bounty with all those RPG turrets.

RPG 'im, keep it in place with a electro bolt whilst you get the chemical thrower out, dose him with electric gel for a bit then finish with the shotgun. Always finish with the shotgun just so I can go right up to his helmet and put the shotgun right up close.

The most coolest thing to happen though is when you're back peddling away down a corridor, the Bouncer is charging after you, you're bursting away with the tommy gun for dramatic effect, health at it's lowest, no medical packs, then suddenly... click click click click click. And then it lunges, and that's it.

[TollBooth Willie]

Maybe it's just because I'm on normal, but getting right in their faces with a shotgun and Shock Bolt seems to take them down with ease.

[ELITE COMBINE]

I aim for their eyes or wutever. Very useful. Or i just use that freeze gel and shatter them.

[Gargantou]

You dont get loot from shattered enemies though, do you?

[-Psy-]

I got transported to the Vitachamber 8 times trying to kill the first Big Daddy at Neptune's Bounty. They're bloody impossible. Thankfully I found a gun turret underneath the wharf and hacked into it. It didn't do that much damage though so I ended up spending 15 minutes killing this Big Daddy and guess what? The little sister ran away. THANKS A ****ING LOT.

[ELITE COMBINE]

If you shatter a big daddy there is no loot :x

[Gargantou]

Told ya.:(

[ELITE COMBINE]

I like the bouncer elites there the coolest looking.:D

[Shakermaker]

I am still in the beginning of the game, but I found it easiest to lead 'em to water and then just eletcroshock the bejeebus out of them. Took me about 8 or 9 jolts and then they're down.

[Tyguy]

Ya, i slowly realized that that best approach is to hack any nearby cameras and gun turrets....lead them in, and just open up on them while they are busy defending themselves.

[ELITE COMBINE]

Just finally got killed by a big daddy. :D Too many splicers and turrents at once for me to hold off. Its last move was it sent me flying across the room. I finally died for the first time in the game though :D

[Steel.Inferno]

I really haven't found turrets to be effective in the least -- Against Rosies, anyway. To deal with the ones in Neptunes (Hard difficulty) without dying I brought up some oil cans and those larger exploding canisters and started chucking them, along with electrobolts and shotgun blasts. The smaller red cans are quite effective.

As well, maybe it was just the electric-self-defense thing that I might have had on, but I *think* bouncers can break electronics in the environment and hurt themselves... That's what it looked like anyway. I'll try it again in a better location.

[Cormeh]

I really haven't found turrets to be effective in the least -- Against Rosies, anyway. To deal with the ones in Neptunes (Hard difficulty) without dying I brought up some oil cans and those larger exploding canisters and started chucking them, along with electrobolts and shotgun blasts. The smaller red cans are quite effective.

That's how I finished the Rosies in Neptunes Bounty. Although, you have to be quick, because one shot from the rivet gun will blow the barrel up in your face. :o

[Adabiviak]

My preferred methods for dropping Big Daddies:

Get two Big Daddies to fight each other. By the time they're done, the winner will usually go down with a blast from the shotgun.

Light them up with the security beacon. I actually had the choppers drop a Rosie with only two hits from the beacon.

Electric Gel: a full clip with the consumption reduction will drop them quick.

Prox grenades: drop six of them in a pile (maybe less?) and coax the Big Daddy through. That'll usually drop him in one blow.

I never froze them - way too much money and goodies on them to lose after that assault.

[ELITE COMBINE]

Here are my ways.

1 Beat the crap outa one for lik an hour until it dies from a wrench.

2 Use electric bolt tthen shot gun repeat.

3 Use grenade launcher over and over till it dies.

4 Use explodeing buck on it(very effective).

5 Lure it into water and fry it.

6 enrage splicers so they attk the big daddy do the same to big daddy.

Finally just freeze and and smash it. I just shotgun them to death with explodeing buck.

[Malfunction]

I'm on normal and having no trouble at all fighting them. I actually like fighting them. They're not too hard, but enough trouble so I actually have to plan before I strike.

Before attacking one I set my revolver and tommy gun to armor-piercing, see if there are any puddles of water or oil nearby for me to utilize, and check around for splicers nearby so I can lure them over to the BD and enrage them.

[_Z_Ryuken]

Just defeated normal diff today. The daddies pose no threat. Keep ice 3 on hand in case they charge, blast them with electric chemical. Takes about 1/4 clip if you moderate the flow. I also have completed research on them for +++ damage, and some electric weapon booster tonic. They fall in about 12 seconds. I haven't yet tried hard mode.
My failsafe is the security target ball of goo. Hack a camera (or don't if he's not in range), paint him, and have the bots just wittle it down.
Electric buck is effective, better if you have both weapon upgrades. Freeze them while reloading.
Sometimes I leave a trail of proxies and nail him from a distance and watch him mangle himself over them.

Your a big daddy killer I don't like you :frown: All they want to do is protect the little brats. Otherwise they are friendly and just shove you outta the way.

One of them was blocking some stairs and when I tried to go around he shoved me and I fell to my death. :/

[xvillanx]

I accidently got into a fight with 1.I set him on fire then he came with the rivote gun , i used lighting shells then it killed me so i went back and finished him with 2 lightinging round.

[DEATHMASTER]

When Cohen finally showed his ass up, somereason a big daddy came running down the stairs around/through him (glitcharama style with the super jerking) and he cornered me into the wall and I couldn't move (he wasn't even attacking). I loaded again cuz i was lucky i saved right when i finished the masterpiece, turns out he was trying to run to some room, looks at a dead body and goes back to walking about...wtf.

[TheAntipop]

I hate it when an enemy melees me when I'm near a Big Daddy, like in a cramped corridor or something, because I have the electric shockwave defence on me. It sucks when a Big Daddy without a Little Sister attacks me.

[ELITE COMBINE]

I like controling them. I wonder if I could control 2 big daddys at once?

OR what I do is freeze them and run away to see how far they will go to kill me.:E

[Adabiviak]

I like controling them. I wonder if I could control 2 big daddys at once?
That could be a very fun party.

[_Z_Ryuken]

I hate it when an enemy melees me when I'm near a Big Daddy, like in a cramped corridor or something, because I have the electric shockwave defence on me. It sucks when a Big Daddy without a Little Sister attacks me.

I had that problem a few times. It seems when you control them they aren't affected by the shockwave. Could have also been dumb luck for me, though.

[Bad^Hat]

Did anyone else really want to be able to use the rivet gun? I was hoping and praying for that when --

-- you had to become one at the end.

[DEATHMASTER]

you should be a ****load more specific on that spoiler ffs. Don't click if you haven't beaten the game...like me.

[Stigmata]

I'm just pretending that Bad^Hat was joking.

[Bad^Hat]

Tip: if it's in a spoiler tag, it's probably a spoiler.

But uhh, you can disregard it anyway. It's not 100% true, atleast :)

[DEATHMASTER]

Yeah, spoiler...to the ending, figured it was for you're first encounter on that gun though :(.

[Acepilotf14]

That is at the very end.. And it isn't incredibly important, anyway. And I thoguht it would be hella more epic than that.. I thought every step I took would make the ground shake, and when I go into combat my vision turns red.. aww. Need more fun.

[Bad^Hat]

Okay, if you're really bothered about it, stop freakin talking about it outside of spoiler tags. Admittedly it was a bad choice wording it the way I did, but I assumed anyone who hadn't finished the game would be a little more careful about that kind of thing (also, too late to edit it now).

And as I said, it doesn't happen exactly the way I put it, I just worded it assuming the only ones reading it would be those who'd already done it and would fill in the blanks themselves.

(Don't read unless finished plzthx) -

I was pretty dissapointed about how putting on the suit doesn't do anything to your hands. Looked a little dumb walking around with the helmet, assuming you were wearing the full body suit, but you were still wielding all your weapons bare-handed like usual =/

Also, no rivet gun! Pooooooos. Although drill arm would have been downright hardcore...

[Gorgon]

haha they are hard to kill. they sound so ****ing cool. :D

[neptuneuk]

When you see them wandering around alone you almost feel sorry for them, they sound distressed :(

[Tyguy]

Mr. Bubbles!!!!



I Came!!!!!

[GordonFreeman911]

Someone needs to mod the drill into the game

[Wanted Bob]

Mr. Bubbles!!!!



I Came!!!!!

No, just no.

[TollBooth Willie]

Mr. Bubbles!!!!



I Came!!!!!Yes. Oh God yes.

[Homless Snark]

Once I got the bolt thrower it became pretty easy.

(medium)

I just used the electric bolts, set up 3 right next to each other and mid-level. Then took 1 pot shot at the bigdaddy, he'd rush to me, rush through the 3 bolts, and be dead immediately. It was funny to because his momentum would send his dead body flying in the direction he was running and i'd chase it down and loot.

[DEATHMASTER]

Somehow it ignores any additional ones if he does the tackle, you have to stay out of sight or he'll negate them. Takes about 8 on hard, I added variations like proxy mines and a shotgun to the head at the end of the line :D

[TheAntipop]

Yeah traps bolts are always fun. I love it when they come blundering through them and right at the last one you just arm yourself with exploding buck and put the barrel right next to his helmet. Awesome.

It's also fun just putting trap bolts around the map and just waiting for the 'bzzzt!' and the screams of some dumbass that walked into them. That said, A.I. is a bit lacking when it comes to trap bolts.

[Homless Snark]

Yeah traps bolts are always fun. I love it when they come blundering through them and right at the last one you just arm yourself with exploding buck and put the barrel right next to his helmet. Awesome.

It's also fun just putting trap bolts around the map and just waiting for the 'bzzzt!' and the screams of some dumbass that walked into them. That said, A.I. is a bit lacking when it comes to trap bolts.

Well of course. If they made the AI aware of them, then they'd be useless because they wouldn't walk into them.

[TollBooth Willie]

But when a trap bolt is right in their face and they don't even notice it that is kind of stupid.

True enough though, if they noticed them every time it would be useless. :)

[TheAntipop]

Oh yeah of course, but it should be been more subtle. They should not notice the ones that are right in their face, and instead only trip on the wires that are at ankle height or such.

Even so, it's really fun sticking a trap bolt actually in an enemy. They try to run away from it because they know in a few seconds it's going to 'ignite' and the wire is literally going to come from them. Funny - and satisfying - as hell.