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SpiderPig
18-08-2007, 02:16 AM
And why?

Im getting on the 360 for achievements and the PC to get some use out of my 8800 and the mod scene :)

A True Canadian
18-08-2007, 02:34 AM
As I said in the Steam thread:

The longer they take to release the PC demo, the more worried I am that the full game for the PC is still littered with bugs. If they're struggling to get the demo out before the PC game ships (which from what I've read is simply the first portion of the game with extra weapons), then doesn't that mean that the full game is, well, unfinished? It doesn't give me much confidence.

If I do decide to pick this game up, it will most definately be on the Xbox360.

staticprimer
18-08-2007, 02:39 AM
But reviews for the PC game say specifically that it is not buggy and is well optimized. Personally, I have already pre-ordered and pre-loaded it on steam.

Dog--
18-08-2007, 02:54 AM
I'll get it for 360, but that's only because my computer sucks balls, and won't be able to run it even at the lowest possible settings.. If I had a computer to run it, that'd be sweet, because they'll probably come out with alot of cool mods and stuff, but until I get lots of money for a new computer - 360.

TheAntipop
18-08-2007, 03:10 AM
360 because I can play the game in a top form. Theres alot of games I play on my PC at the moment that I've tweaked the settings for so I can get a stable framerate and exp, but after playing the demo for Bioshock, I don't think I can imagine playing it in a toned down state. The gameplay is great and all I just don't think it's meant to be played looking ugly.

That, and I haven't the money for a good PC, or the need for a good PC anyway.

Asus
18-08-2007, 03:25 AM
I'll be getting it for the PC. It's a shooter so I'd like to use a mouse. I won't have to upgrade anything on my PC for it. I also want the ability to modify stuff in the game if I decide to (Settings/MODs). Besides, I don't have an Xbox360 or HDTV. :)

Dog--
18-08-2007, 03:39 AM
I don't have an HDTV D:

It's very crappy playing my 360..

Bad^Hat
18-08-2007, 03:39 AM
360, my PCs not up to it. I waited until I could play the demo to make sure it controlled alright, and I was satisfied, so I pre-ordered. It doesn't seem like a shooter that requires a huge amount of precision (as much as I hate auto-aim), so it should be fine.

phantomdesign
18-08-2007, 03:44 AM
And why?

Im getting on the 360 for achievements and the PC to get some use out of my 8800 and the mod scene :)
x360 "Achievements" make baby Jesus cry & MS very happy.

StardogChampion
18-08-2007, 03:55 AM
My bro's 360 as it won't run on my PC.

TheAntipop
18-08-2007, 03:56 AM
Not really. :| Some people like to up their gaming by taking on challenges. I'm not sure how the Achievements will work in Bioshock but in general theres nothing wrong with them. You don't need to pay for them, nor do they get in the way, so what's the deal?

EDIT: too lazy to quote phantom now.

Fliko
18-08-2007, 04:26 AM
Not really. :| Some people like to up their gaming by taking on challenges. I'm not sure how the Achievements will work in Bioshock but in general theres nothing wrong with them. You don't need to pay for them, nor do they get in the way, so what's the deal?

Aye, and as the name says, seeing that little message pop up and you get some more points just feels rewarding.
It's like leveling up in an MMORPG (If you like MMORPGS), or stuff like that.

Dog--
18-08-2007, 06:27 AM
I Agree.

Asus
18-08-2007, 07:18 AM
buttseks?
I Agree.


There are choices on that poll!

Gargantou
18-08-2007, 07:42 AM
I'll buy it for the XB360, Limited Edition ftw.

My PC could probably run it just fine but meh :)

Asuka
18-08-2007, 08:08 AM
PC

Keyboard and mouse for this kind of game.

mastag
18-08-2007, 08:30 AM
360. My PC is crap, and I want the achievements.

Also, I thought i would never see the day when Asus said Buttseks.

Letters
18-08-2007, 08:55 AM
PC

I don't have a 360, my computer is pretty good, it's on Steam, and the PC version, according to reviews, handles better (not that the 360 one is bad).

Advisor
18-08-2007, 09:17 AM
PC

I feel more comfortable playing FPS's with keyboard + mouse.

Bad^Hat
18-08-2007, 09:51 AM
Heh, I hadn't even considered the achievements for 360. Oh man, this is gonna suck away so many hours, achivements are a completionist's dream and nightmare in one :P

Tick
18-08-2007, 10:36 AM
I'll get it for 360, but that's only because my computer sucks balls, and won't be able to run it even at the lowest possible settings.. If I had a computer to run it, that'd be sweet, because they'll probably come out with alot of cool mods and stuff, but until I get lots of money for a new computer - 360.

same here

AHA-Lambda
18-08-2007, 11:24 AM
I'll get it for 360, but that's only because my computer sucks balls, and won't be able to run it even at the lowest possible settings.. If I had a computer to run it, that'd be sweet, because they'll probably come out with alot of cool mods and stuff, but until I get lots of money for a new computer - 360.


Same here.

cadaver
18-08-2007, 12:20 PM
PC! I`l be upgrading my comp next week.I need to see how it performs on different hardware first(benchmarks).

DigiQ8
18-08-2007, 12:34 PM
PC
preloading from Steam now

Shakermaker
18-08-2007, 12:41 PM
I'll be getting it for the PC. It's a shooter so I'd like to use a mouse. I won't have to upgrade anything on my PC for it. I also want the ability to modify stuff in the game if I decide to (Settings/MODs). Besides, I don't have an Xbox360 or HDTV. :)

.... what Asus said.

Cormeh
18-08-2007, 12:41 PM
Undecided. The news about the availability on Steam has thrown me off balance.

My 360 is ready for another game, but my new PC will have (I'm sure) no problems running Bioshock. Quite a predicament. Steam or console? :/

Kyorisu
18-08-2007, 12:50 PM
PC: Better UI, DX10 for Vista users, better control scheme with the keyboard/mouse etc.

jimbo118
18-08-2007, 01:37 PM
360 on my SD TV, pc wont play it.

Gargantou
18-08-2007, 02:23 PM
PC: Better UI, DX10 for Vista users, better control scheme with the keyboard/mouse etc.Do you have a source for better UI? And I recall clearly that the devs said in an interview that the XB360 is their main development platform and that botht he control scheme and UI has been designed with the 360 specifically in mind.

CR0M
18-08-2007, 02:27 PM
How can anyone say their PC won't be able to run it? the demo isn't even out yet. Has it occurred to y'all that the early 360 demo/delayed PC demo might be a blatant Microsoft marketing ploy to get as many 360 orders as possible before everyone realises that the cheaper PC version will run just fine anyway?

I won't be getting either version, but i'll probably download the demo in a few weeks just for chucks.

Do you have a source for better UI? And I recall clearly that the devs said in an interview that the XB360 is their main development platform and that botht he control scheme and UI has been designed with the 360 specifically in mind.

I read that there is a totally different version for each platform, each developed specifically for that platform by separate teams, no porting so no superior platform. Hence the PC version has a different UI than the 360. Also read that the PC UI can be customised.

Kyorisu
18-08-2007, 02:50 PM
Do you have a source for better UI? And I recall clearly that the devs said in an interview that the XB360 is their main development platform and that botht he control scheme and UI has been designed with the 360 specifically in mind.

Screenshots are hard to find but yes it has been stated there are two teams that worked on the game. When the manual was up on steam you could clearly see the PC has a different UI. The hacking game for instance will be easier and more suited to PC controls i.e. the mouse than the console version.

http://files.filefront.com/manual+enpdf/;8328602;;/fileinfo.html - Link for downloading the manual pdf

How can anyone say their PC won't be able to run it?

You read the system requirements and make a judgment based on them.

CR0M
18-08-2007, 03:25 PM
and when have sys requirements ever been reliable?
Demo is the only way to know for sure.

StardogChampion
18-08-2007, 03:38 PM
How can anyone say their PC won't be able to run it? the demo isn't even out yet. Has it occurred to y'all that the early 360 demo/delayed PC demo might be a blatant Microsoft marketing ploy to get as many 360 orders as possible before everyone realises that the cheaper PC version will run just fine anyway?
Shader Model 3.0. Note the 10 most popular video cards in Valve's survey, 43% of them can't run SM3.

Evo
18-08-2007, 03:53 PM
PC

Don't have a 360, and even if I did, would be for the PC first. Got a better sound system, better monitor (a 360 would be on a crap old TV) and also Keyboard n Mouse :D

simonjedi
18-08-2007, 04:42 PM
neither.

my pc sucks balls and i don't have a 360

DeusExMachina
18-08-2007, 05:25 PM
360.

Samon
18-08-2007, 05:30 PM
360.

Atomic_Piggy
18-08-2007, 05:47 PM
360

Kyorisu
18-08-2007, 06:06 PM
and when have sys requirements ever been reliable?
Demo is the only way to know for sure.

They are only not reliable when you barley meet the minimum specs. People just don't seem to understand what the word minimum means. It means you can run it, not necessarily run it well.

Flyingdebris
18-08-2007, 06:23 PM
i'm a few days away from getting my new PC parts and i already preordered the PC version

so PC it is.

Though the 360 version felt very comfortable for a FPS console, i still prefer my mouse + keyboard

Sir Phoenixx
18-08-2007, 06:35 PM
I'll be getting it for the PC, depending on how the demo plays when it's released. My PC passes the minimum requirements, and just barely matches the recommended requirements.

Rapstah
18-08-2007, 07:06 PM
Wii. ?_?

Fliko
18-08-2007, 08:36 PM
How can anyone say their PC won't be able to run it? the demo isn't even out yet. Has it occurred to y'all that the early 360 demo/delayed PC demo might be a blatant Microsoft marketing ploy to get as many 360 orders as possible before everyone realises that the cheaper PC version will run just fine anyway?


OMG... Yes, it all makes sense now! We should start the "Microsoft Conspiracies" groups.

Has it ever occured to you that 2K has CLEARLY stated that they are optimizing the drivers for Bioshock.

Supposely when you install Bioshock it will have to download a patch from 2K to install..

Kyorisu
18-08-2007, 08:37 PM
Supposely when you install Bioshock it will have to download a patch from 2K to install..

Otherwise called activation.

Hectic Glenn
18-08-2007, 08:54 PM
PC, although I wouldn't mind it on PS3 so I could HD it up on my TV. I guess that's not going to happen though D:

Fliko
18-08-2007, 09:03 PM
Bioshock achievements are listed on a site,
But they contain SPOILERS. In my opinion rather LARGE GAMEPLAY SPOILERS.
http://www.xbox360achievements.org/achievements.php?gameID=271
For those who dare

Acepilotf14
19-08-2007, 12:14 AM
Meh. I tried it, and I'm going to go PC. I can't react fast enough with a controller.
Whoa. That achievmant at the end is crazy.. D: Is there an achievment for harvesting all of the little sisters?

TheAntipop
19-08-2007, 12:32 AM
Bioshock achievements are listed on a site,
But they contain SPOILERS. In my opinion rather LARGE GAMEPLAY SPOILERS.
http://www.xbox360achievements.org/achievements.php?gameID=271
For those who dare

WARNING: MAJOR SPOILER UNDER THIS TAG.

The player has defeated Atlas - 100G

:( :( :( :( :( :(

But I don't wanna. :(

Dog--
19-08-2007, 01:30 AM
How can anyone say their PC won't be able to run it?
My computer can barely run Doom 3 at LOWEST settings.. Lowest resolution, and lowest quality gets me 10-15 FPS.. Although if no ragdolls or NPCs are on screen, I get a cool 25-30... Although it's odd I can run HL2 at full everything and 1025x768, except model detail at medium, and EP1 at full everything at 1024x768 same with the model detail (HDR gives me no FPS drop AT ALL, it's weird...)...

I think I can make a very fair judgment based on that.



Also - There are only spoilers in the secret achievements thing, the normal achievements are what you'd expect, I wouldn't really call them spoilers, only the secret achievements are spoilers..

One exception in the regular achievements

where you can get the achievement of becoming a big daddy - didn't see that one coming.. dammit.

xcellerate
19-08-2007, 02:13 AM
I bought an 8800 last month, and I'll finally put it to use. PC for me.

Gorgon
19-08-2007, 05:45 PM
PC ftw

Icarusintel
19-08-2007, 05:56 PM
PC

I just put together my Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 and eVGA 8800GTX system yesterday. I expect this game to run smooth as butter on it. :)

VictimOfScience
19-08-2007, 06:00 PM
PS3. ;)

Unless the Falcons land first....

Gray Fox
19-08-2007, 06:01 PM
Goddammit, I ordered my pc on 17 juli, when I got it more then 2 weeks ago discovered I had 3 dammed DOA's, and I'm still ****ing waiting for the replacements. But knowing my luck, I'll get atleast a second DOA, and it's probably going to be either the RAM or HDD which will cripple me for another couple of weeks till I get replacements. But hey by that time I will be knee deep in schoolwork, then again I am doing gamedesign so schoolwork should be atleast as fun as playing games =)

Sparta
19-08-2007, 06:53 PM
PC. I think my PC is fast enough (just upgraded last month) and my 360 is borked.

Unfortunately i probably wont be able to play this game until November, when all my uni work is out of the way :(.

Tick
19-08-2007, 09:48 PM
PC

I just put together my Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 and eVGA 8800GTX system yesterday. I expect this game to run smooth as butter on it. :)





grats man...Im still saving up :(

Fliko
19-08-2007, 10:30 PM
Otherwise called activation.

No, you seem you be mistaken, while there is online activation you also quite literally download and install a patch (http://forums.2kgames.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4476)

Kyorisu
19-08-2007, 10:32 PM
No, you seem you be mistaken, while there is online activation you also quite literally download and install a patch (http://forums.2kgames.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4476)

Yeah I saw that thread awhile ago. I don't tend to believe what everyone sais but that's proof enough.

Wanted Bob
22-08-2007, 06:16 AM
Jeeze, I'm so undecided...

Is the 360 version any better looking than DX 10 optimized Bioshock?

Controls are better on PC, plus I can use a 360 controller if I need to...

However, I love acheivements, just cause it gives a bit more replay value (even though this game doesnt need it).

EDIT: I'm gonna go with the PC version, for the reasons mentioned above, but also cause its cheaper (With Halo 3 and Orange Box looming, I need all the extra money I can get).

elrasho
23-08-2007, 02:40 AM
:angry: Im no going for either. 1. My PC only plays the demo at 25fps 2. I dont have a big TV to play it on 360

Stigmata
23-08-2007, 03:14 AM
PC, because I don't have an HDTV and I meet the recommended DX9 requirements.

But now that I think about it, I'll be without achievements... D:

Wanted Bob
23-08-2007, 05:50 AM
PC, because I don't have an HDTV and I meet the recommended DX9 requirements.

But now that I think about it, I'll be without achievements... D:

I know what you mean. But this activation problem is concerning...

I'm downloading it right now, finger crossed!

CR0M
23-08-2007, 01:46 PM
I was sure I posted a lengthy crit on the demo I played yesterday but obviously not. Can't be arsed to do it now either.

I win 30 pounds by not buying this overrated, underachieved, generic piece of console fodder. Yay \o/.

Cormeh
23-08-2007, 02:09 PM
I've decided to go with the 360 version. I just can't be arsed installing/downloading/activating and all that other gubbins that comes with the PC.

Buy it tomorrow afternoon, pop it in and play straight away. Also - achievements. \o/

staticprimer
23-08-2007, 02:31 PM
I was sure I posted a lengthy crit on the demo I played yesterday but obviously not. Can't be arsed to do it now either.

I win 30 pounds by not buying this overrated, underachieved, generic piece of console fodder. Yay \o/.

If you really think that, you don't know what you're missing.

TheAntipop
23-08-2007, 04:17 PM
He knows what he's missing - the actual game itself.

Warbie
23-08-2007, 04:22 PM
360 - these days i'm more into sitting back on the sofa and not having to bother installation/settings etc. Plug and play. Being able to play on a 110" screen with the 360 also makes the decision easier :)

Samon
23-08-2007, 04:32 PM
360 - these days i'm more into sitting back on the sofa and not having to bother installation/settings etc. Plug and play.

I agree. No fuss, no worries of it crashing or dying on you, no mysterious and inexplicable error zooming into view when you're loading up the menu.

TheAntipop
23-08-2007, 04:47 PM
Yep, and after reading a good number of PC Bioshock threads... well, I feel sorry for all the hassle their going through.

ELITE COMBINE
24-08-2007, 06:37 PM
I wouldn't buy it for the pc cause my friend said it laggs alot plus since its so high graphics it crashs and takes forever to install. But I already bought for 360 witch it works great.

VictimOfScience
27-08-2007, 09:54 PM
Got it for the 360 and it looks gorgeous on my 40" HDTV. PC Gaming is getting a little too expensive for my blood, but that doesn't mean I won't upgrade like crazy next year! :naughty:

Wanted Bob
27-08-2007, 10:02 PM
The one thing that I perfer about PC gaming is that its easier for me to fix problems with games. Even though PC errors are more common, when I have an error with a 360 game, it's much harder to find a solution, so the problem never gets fixed.

Warbie
27-08-2007, 10:16 PM
Do you get many errors with 360 games? I've had a handful of freezes since launch and that's it.

The pc version of Bioshock doesn't seem to have a walk button. Not tragic, but when compared it to how well analogue movement is implemented on the 360 and how much it can increase immersion it's certainly a minus point.

Stigmata
28-08-2007, 01:17 AM
I hope analogue keyboards come out to fix that :P

Warbie
28-08-2007, 02:43 AM
A little hopeful ;)

A walk key wouldn't have been much to ask, though. It's pretty much standard in every fps.

ELITE COMBINE
02-09-2007, 06:17 AM
I rarely get problems with 360. Mostly when im on xbox live then i get server laggs and crashes.