Bioshock demo on Live

[Warbie]

Go get.

[Sui]

Nah. You're kidding me.

...you're kidding me, right?

D:

[Adabiviak]

Live what? Link?

[Warbie]

Nah. You're kidding me.

...you're kidding me, right?

D:

Nope. 1.35 gig :)

Live what? Link?

Xbox Live.

[B_MAN]

FINALLY!!!!!!!
+launch trailer:
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/23435.html

[TCfromBN]

Uh... I'll be back later...



D:

[Gunner]

No pc demo?

[Zeus]

Yeah, where's the PC demo?

[Warbie]

pc demo out later this month:

http://www.2kgames.com/cultofrapture/home.html

[Gunner]

Later this month? isn't the game coming out in 9 days?

[Sui]

Ever since that 95% PC Gamer review, I've been pretty hyped about this. I'm downloading now, can't wait to give it a crack.

[Kyorisu]

http://forums.2kgames.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3033

As a result people are pissed. This guy is also hilarious

HEY GUYS, WE HAVE A SURPRISE, IT'S JUST NOT FOR YOU! LAWLAWLAWL111!!!

[Flyingdebris]

i dunno about the PC demo as i need to build a computer fast enough to run it, but i did play the 360 demo today at a comic convention up in chicago.

awesome to the core. Plus they added the ability to use iron sights on the weapons which is a big plus for me.

The beginning of the game does feel a bit linear though, but i'm assuming thats to be expected that early into the game. Though you do see them, you don't get to fight any big daddies or little sisters in the demo, just a few types of splicers, using the revolver, ignite, electrovolt, a pipe wrench, and a tommygun.

weapon strikes felt meaty and substantial, and the little 1940s style comercials for the plasmid powers were a nice touch. One thing that may lead to some debate is that hacking an object pauses the rest of game. So while you are playing the pipemaze minigame you are effectively in no danger, though you are against a time limit. I don't feel strongly either way, but i'm sure there will be some more hardcore types that will want to be in danger.

[Warbie]

The game is out so soon that it's not really a big deal. There's some serious throwing of the dummy out of the pram going on in that thread.

[Kyorisu]

The game is out so soon that it's not really a big deal. There's some serious throwing of the dummy out of the pram going on in that thread.

Fair enough but from a marketing point of view it's plain retarded when you look at the PC perspective. It's rather clear they want to whore as many people on the console as possible. Otherwise releasing a console and PC demo at the same time would have made more sense and shut people up.

[Sui]

It's entirely possible that the PC demo has been delayed due to technical problems. After all, the demo for The Darkness was released a few weeks after the actual game, so it's not beyond the realms of possibility that they've had a few hiccups.

Hell, even if they accepted a briefcase full of bribe money from M$, it doesn't really matter. As people have already said, 9 days is hardly an eternity.

[Kyorisu]

I don't really care what the reason is I'm just enjoying watching all the PC users have a cry. A demo could only ruin the actual game.

[Warbie]

A demo could only ruin the actual game.

Yeh. I'd rather not play the demo before the full game arrives, the problem is i'm too weak!! It's just there, sitting on Live and calling ...

[Kyorisu]

Resist, humanity demands it!

If I bothered to get my 360 replaced I'd be tempted but meh. That involves going into town and I'm far too lazy to do that.

[Warbie]

Too late for that. Welcome to Rapture :)

[staticprimer]

PC demo or GTFO

[Kyorisu]

Either we hear about it tomorrow or it'll happen after the game is released.

Too late for that. Welcome to Rapture :)

Give me a yay or nay when your done.

[B-MAn]

Argg I don't want to play the demo and ruin my experience...but then again f*ck it :D

[Mattigus]

Its funny, I just recently got an Xbox 360, and spent the past day trying to get online. When I finally got my xbox online, I spent a good 30 minutes wondering what to do. I ended up seeing the Bioshock demo and literally yelled "HOLY MOTHER F*CKER!" and started downloading.

Jesus, could it be any slower though? 51 percent and it's barely moving at all. Time to play some Forza, I guess...

[mastag]

...I pick today to help my grandpa work in his yard. crap.

[nokori3byo]

Awright, Bioshock telekenesis combat looks very cool and all, but what's with bloody Ken Levine saying the idea of grabbing grenades and throwing them back at enemies is an original one?

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/23017.html

[TCfromBN]

Download is stuck at 54%... I'll check back in tomorrow.

[Kyorisu]

Awright, Bioshock telekenesis combat looks very cool and all, but what's with bloody Ken Levine saying the idea of grabbing grenades and throwing them back at enemies is an original one?

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/23017.html

PR guys tend to spread a lot of bullshit you should be able to automatically filter out the crap.

[Krynn72]

PR guys tend to spread a lot of bullshit you should be able to automatically filter out the crap.

Hah, do you get the Games for Windows magazine? One of the editors made a whole article about PR guys and how annoying and useless they are.

[Bad^Hat]

Omg! My 360 gets back from repair either tomorrow or the day after... gah I can't wait. So many great demos, and I'm already over my bandwidth for the month, but **** it I'll pay! :D

...what's with bloody Ken Levine saying the idea of grabbing grenades and throwing them back at enemies is an original one?
Lol. One of my favourite things to do in HL2 was do a makeshift grenade launcher type dealie by dropping a grenade at my feet, picking it up with the grav gun, then waiting a second or two and popping it in the face of some poor combine s.o.b. :D

Still, imitation is the truest form of flattery, and all that. Features like this deserve to be passed down to other great games, whether they're original or not (but it'd help if they weren't overhyped like that :P).

[B_MAN]

anyone actually played it yet?

[Tick]

my live expired a few days,ago >.< oh well I get a card this morning.

[Mattigus]

I'm at 96 percent, and it's moving at a snails pace. The entire freaking universe must be downloading this demo.

It's 2:30 in the morning out in the East coast. I'm downloading it, playing it, then going to sleep. Dammit.

The only thing that will make work tomorrow worth it is that I will be able to gloat to my boss that I played the Bioshock demo. Will it be worth it? Time will tell.

[Iced_Eagle]

Hell, even if they accepted a briefcase full of bribe money from M$, it doesn't really matter. As people have already said, 9 days is hardly an eternity.

Why would MS do that? They own both platforms. :) No need to pay to get the demo early on one system since it's not like they're competing against Sony on this one.

[Planetary]

Awright, Bioshock telekenesis combat looks very cool and all, but what's with bloody Ken Levine saying the idea of grabbing grenades and throwing them back at enemies is an original one?

'You can call it the zero point energy field manipulator if you really want to, Gordon.'

[Mattigus]

I just played it. It may be the fact that I'm severely lacking in sleep and I had to wait for 4 hours for this demo to download, but I was extremely amazed by what I saw. The graphics in this game were possibly the best I have ever seen. Ever. On top of that, I don't remember the last time I was genuinely scared by a game as much as I've been with this demo.

I need to sleep. But I want this game. Very badly.

[Sparta]

My 360 borked it a few weeks ago, so nuts to that. It better be good though.

[AHA-Lambda]

*downloads now*

[Nabobalis]

the demo has some very nice differences from the game, but it is no way a 100% new level. (http://forums.2kgames.com/forums/showpost.php?p=70843&postcount=5)

[AHA-Lambda]

Mine is only at 6% ;(

EDIT: Has anyone who lives in the UK managed to find websites that sell the collectors edition except for game? I can't find any others. I don't want to make an account on their website for the sake of one game but I really want the big daddy figurine. :(

[nokori3byo]

Still, imitation is the truest form of flattery, and all that. Features like this deserve to be passed down to other great games, whether they're original or not (but it'd help if they weren't overhyped like that :P).

Oh yeah, I've got no problem with the game reusing the grenade return gimmmick. But they shouldn't claim it as their own.

I think the BS team have a bit of a grudge against the Half-Life franchise, because of the way the release of the original Half-Life overshadowed that of System Shock 2. Bioshock seems in many ways, like a deliberate attempt to trump HL2. Will it succeed?

[Wanted Bob]

Argh, I started this download at midnight EST, now at 7:00 am its only at 53% and not moving at all! Everyone MUST be downloading this demo (reminds me of Halo 3 beta)

EDIT: It's 8:15 now and its at 55%. It's gonna be a loooooooooooooong day...

[Cormeh]

Great, now I just have to get through this long and arduous workday, then endure a (no doubt) horribly slow download.

I am glad that a demo became available, but as awesome as the game sounds I'm still that wee bit tentative.

[Gargantou]

Played the demo, incredibly awsome, haven't had a this fun and scary experience in a long time, thank god I pre-ordered the Limited Edition!

[VictimOfScience]

Damn damn damn. I am so annoyed that the 65nm units are just nowehere to be found in the wild. Hearing all of you guys talk about how great this one is is just going to kill me!! :sniper:

[Sui]

Mine is only at 6% ;(

EDIT: Has anyone who lives in the UK managed to find websites that sell the collectors edition except for game? I can't find any others. I don't want to make an account on their website for the sake of one game but I really want the big daddy figurine. :(

Here you are, my good man. (http://shop.gameplay.co.uk/webstore/advanced_search.asp?keyword=bioshock&prodcode=&min_price=&max_price=&platform=ALL&x=0&y=0)

So far all I've done is watched the title screen. I'll play it when I've had breakfast.

[Warbie]

I actually managed to stay strong after loading up the title screen and haven't played the demo - which must deserve some kind of medal, or at least a big cookie?

However, after reading :

'Major Nelson has a big interview with Ken Levine about Bioshock and the demo in his latest show. The demo is apparently a different version of the opening level to the version in the shipping game, so it's safe to play through it.'

... and some hands on impressions from one of the writers at ntsc-uk (a guy who usually gets it spot on), my mind has been changed. His impressions:

'Okay, I'll provide some non-spoiler impressions to give an indication of how awesome this demo is.

There's an immense, bewildering, opening setpiece, there's jaw dropping architectural design, there are moments of black comedy, there's bewilderment, there's panic, there's mystery, there's fear, there's fascination, there's action, there's fantasy, there's science fiction, there's horror, there's desolation and all out destruction, there's bizarre characters, there's amazing scale, there's superb and uncomfortably disturbing AI, there's a meaty feel to the weapons both in terms of guns and plasmids, there's a sense to the combat in that you almost don't want to bother the enemies (I found myself waiting for them to attack until near the end when you're forced to defend yourself), there are several events where you'll find your jaw splattered over the floor.

And this is all in the first 45-60 minutes.'

'And as for the power of the atmosphere. I never thought I'd say this about another game, but ICO has a rival.'

'If that hour is anything to go by, it's the next step forward for the first-person genre. Gobsmacked and stunned.'

'Do you remember the opening to the likes of Ocarina, Half-Life and Super Mario 64 where you were just completely flabberghasted? Same sensation here'

'Seriously. It's freaking amazing.'

These are not things this guy says lightly :)


I'll be playing this when I get home tonight. All aboard the hype train, next stop Rapture. woooooo wooooo \o/

[Tarkus]

Wait...in the first 45-60 minutes? The demo has at least 45 to 60 minutes of gameplay??

[StardogChampion]

There's a guy live streaming it here - http://www.stickam.com/profile/camperjoe

[Krynn72]

Well, if I see any more reviews like that then I'll have to get the game. I wasnt intially going to, and was going to wait for a drop in price... but if its going to be so revolutionary then I dont want to miss out.

[Tarkus]

There's a guy live streaming it here - http://www.stickam.com/profile/camperjoe

Must...resist...only 79% to go...GAAAH

[Gargantou]

Damn damn damn. I am so annoyed that the 65nm units are just nowehere to be found in the wild. Hearing all of you guys talk about how great this one is is just going to kill me!! :sniper:Mmm.. BioShock is so goood.. It's like pre-marital sex... Ooooh BioShock, yes, yes, yeeees!!!I couldn't resist, sorry.

[Gorgon]

not for the PC............. :|

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK :|

[sea]

not for the PC............. :|

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK :|It will be... later (http://kotaku.com/gaming/yes-they-remembered-you/bioshock-pc-demo-coming-288660.php).

[jimbo118]

man i cant wait for the game to come out.

[Gorgon]

It will be... later (http://kotaku.com/gaming/yes-they-remembered-you/bioshock-pc-demo-coming-288660.php).

its gone be later this month, still i m crying like the baby in that picture ;(

I want to try this game badly.

[Kyorisu]

man i cant wait for the game to come out.

You and every other person who has drooled at Bioshock media.

That Kotaku thread posted above mentions nothing new and is full of idiots, I love it.

"ZOMG TEH PIRATES ON THAR PC OVER THERE."

That may be so but in all likely events both platforms will sell ridiculously well. People who argue piracy causes the PC to get less decent games are really thick and need to look at the situation. Would you rather develop for a single platform which always has the same specifications and a user base dedicated to using the device for gaming or, the platform that has a million different specifications and isn't targeted purely towards gaming?

[Sui]

Okay, just played the demo. You could probably run through it in about a quarter of an hour if you know what to do, but if you take your time with it and really savour the encounters like I did, it's a good hour and a bit.

I really hope it is an altered version of the first game level, because this demo feels more like a rushed gameplay demonstration than a viable introduction to the game. It lacks that "wow" factor... remember the 20 minute introduction to City 17 in HL2 where you simply walked around and absorbed the game's atmosphere? Well there's obviously huge potential for that here, but other than an establishing aerial shot of the city as you descend towards it, there's very little in the way of jaw-dropping introductory scenes. You're simply thrown into a set of corridors and given access to a variety of weapons one-by-one.

Mind you, that's the only negative thing I can say about this demo. The game feels wonderful. The weapons and abilities have superb animations and sound effects which make them a joy to use, and the graphics are utterly stunning. If you have the patience to closely examine your surroundings you'll also learn many tantalising details about the world of Rapture and what exactly went so wrong. The artistic design is probably the best I've seen in any game, too.

And yes, you can hack security bots in this demo. I had three constantly circling around me towards the end, which came in very handy for the huge fight that awaits.

The hacking mini-game is pretty good, too. It's simple enough for you to pick it up straight away, but has enough depth to make it a genuine challenge. You basically have to align these tubes to create a path for the "flowing" liquid electricity to reach an "exit", though there are also pitfalls if you do something wrong, including major health damage and setting off an alarm. It actually takes 1-2 minutes to complete the mini-game, though you can pay 10 dollars to automatically do it.

And no, you don't get to fight a big daddy, but you do see a couple.

I'm going to be in Cornwall when the actual game is released, which is a bit of a bummer. Ah well, hopefully if I consume enough alcohol I won't mind ;D

[Kyorisu]

What sucks is the game is released here on the 24th which is a Friday I get one day to enjoy Bioshock before attending a lan party over the weekend where I'll be stuck winning MP games.

[Warbie]

I really hope it is an altered version of the first game level, because this demo feels more like a rushed gameplay demonstration than a viable introduction to the game.

The demo has been confirmed to be a tweaked version - more abilities and weapons given early and a few other differences. I imagine the pacing and opening of the actual game to be different.

Apparently in the Major Nelson interview the demo was described as the directors cut of the game's opening.

[soulslicer]

o yes, i want to see if my system can handle UE3!!

[IchI]

Meh, I'm just going to wait until my copy gets here. I have put of watching any videos and definatly don't wanna play the demo. Its been a while since I wanted such a fresh experiance from a game. I really hope this game delivers.

[Gargantou]

o yes, i want to see if my system can handle UE3!!There are already UE3 games out there you do know that right?:p Like Rainbow Six Vegas.

[BHC]

There are already UE3 games out there you do know that right?:p Like Rainbow Six Vegas.

Horribly optimized PC ports - nothing compared to what you would hope Bioshock would be.

[Tick]

I really don't think this game is worth $50.....it looks like a fun rental but I'm sure its one of the those games that are done after 12 hours -_-

[Adrik_Senturu]

I don't see how you'd be done after 12 hours with this game :| Unless of course you tried to get through that fast by just running through. I spent close to an hour exploring everything in the demo, and if what im reading is right, the demo is alot faster paced than the actual opening level is going to be.

[Icarusintel]

Horribly optimized PC ports - nothing compared to what you would hope Bioshock would be.
The problem is that without a demo or the game to judge, Bioshock could very well be the same.

Everyone saying the PC users should stop whining must not be taking into account that PC users need to be able to check and see if the game will work with their system, as many retailers are touchy about PC game returns. Why the hell would I buy a game if it's going to run like crap (if at all) and I can't really return it?

I think it is complete bullshit if the PC demo isn't released before the game. They wanted a multi-console simultaneous launch (X360 and PC), so there's no reason they should do the same for the demo.

I guess I'm more disappointed than anything. I'm really hoping it's not just a port. All of the X360 media would seem to indicate otherwise. :(

[BHC]

The problem is that without a demo or the game to judge, Bioshock could very well be the same.

Everyone saying the PC users should stop whining must not be taking into account that PC users need to be able to check and see if the game will work with their system, as many retailers are touchy about PC game returns. Why the hell would I buy a game if it's going to run like crap (if at all) and I can't really return it?

I think it is complete bullshit if the PC demo isn't released before the game. They wanted a multi-console simultaneous launch (X360 and PC), so there's no reason they should do the same for the demo.

I guess I'm more disappointed than anything. I'm really hoping it's not just a port. All of the X360 media would seem to indicate otherwise. :(

The difference is simultaneous development on both the 360 and PC platforms, and Irrational games' focus on PC game development in the past. I would be damned surprised if it turned out anything but stellar in terms of PC optimization.

[Icarusintel]

The difference is simultaneous development on both the 360 and PC platforms, and Irrational games' focus on PC game development in the past. I would be damned surprised if it turned out anything but stellar in terms of PC optimization.
I hope that's true, I really do. But I'm very wary of games developed for multiple platforms these days, since it tends to be PCs getting the poorer version.

[Nabobalis]

I hope that's true, I really do. But I'm very wary of games developed for multiple platforms these days, since it tends to be PCs getting the poorer version.

The magazines that have played the PC version and reviewed say its fine and gave it a high score. While I haven't seen any scans. I'm sure some would of said that the reviews state that it is a poorer version of the game.

[Nabobalis]

I really don't think this game is worth $50.....it looks like a fun rental but I'm sure its one of the those games that are done after 12 hours -_-

On 1up they state that if oyu play only the campaign you will get 12-14 hours of game play but if you also play all the side quests and such it easily goes past 20 hours.

[Mattigus]

I really don't think this game is worth $50.....it looks like a fun rental but I'm sure its one of the those games that are done after 12 hours -_-

I read in a review that the game is quite long. Besides, would you rather have a 12 hour experience filled with great design, awesome graphics, amazing gameplay, and one of the best stories told in gaming, or have 30 hours of repetitive Halo-esque corridor shootouts.

[Combine Hybrid]

OMFG!!!? Have anyone tried this?

잊ㅅ뷰ㅣ묘토ㅈ

[TCfromBN]

It's awesome.

[OmegaX]

Left my download on for 8 hours while I was away today, only got to 41%. I have a 1.5mb/s connection so Xbox Live must be running extremely slow.

[Combine Hybrid]

How the hell do you hack the security bot? It's near impossible.

[KagePrototype]

Played the demo, and :o is all I can say.

Except maybe :D

[Bad^Hat]

Damnit damnit damnit! My Xbox is a day late... argh I've never been so desperate for a freakin demo >_<

[Combine Hybrid]

so you think the game sucks

[IonizeMyAtoms]

I have been waiting for this game for SO LONG. I was hoping I'd have my new top o the line pc by now, but that won't be happening till November/December now. I could get it for xbox, but I have to play this in my small, surround sound filled computer room. I do think I'll be picking it up this motnh anyway though. People in Canada: does EB have the CE? I might run down to the store to pre-order it later

EDIT: Just called, gonna head down to make a pre-order later! $79.99 though, steeeeep price to pay for getting the CE like three months before I can even play it. But I don't care!

[L33TPete]

The hosting for this demo is absolute crap. I've been downloading since it was released and I just hit the 7% mark.

[Warbie]

Very cool demo.

Everything looks lovely, weighty, the combat was better than I expected and the atmosphere top notch. I can't wait to have a proper explore :)

[lePobz]

How the hell do you hack the security bot? It's near impossible.I just shot them a few times with the pistol and they blew up. If the timer starts to count down, just kill the security bot then run to the other side of the toilets. Keep shooting the bad guys, and looting them.

Great demo, really pretty scary :D

Playing it at 1am in the pitch black with a 40" hdtv and 5.1 surround sound really makes it scary :O

[DEATHMASTER]

I'd be pissed right now if I gave so much a crap for the game, but it's one less thing I have to relieve my boredom right now is all :p

[Vigilante]

Dammit....why must my Xbawks be at my fathers house when I'm at my moms?

[Alan00000]

I'd be pissed right now if I gave so much a crap for the game, but it's one less thing I have to relieve my boredom right now is all :p

Thats so true
Should i get this for the pc or 360?

I was thinking of getting it for the 360 so when i finish it i can get some cash back on the trade in.

[Sui]

Wait, can't you just get a full refund?

I don't know where you live, but here in the UK you can take any game / DVD / CD back to a large store within 1 month (providing you keep the receipt) and get a full refund, no questions asked.

Which basically means you can just rent games for free. I've kinda grown out of it though, as now I only spend my money on things I definitely want to keep in the first place. Last game I returned was Bully for the PS2 I think, just because I needed the money.

Regardless, I can't see why you'd want to take Bioshock back. If it's as good as the reviewers are making it out to be, you'll probably want to frame it and hang it on your wall.

[B_MAN]

How the hell do you hack the security bot? It's near impossible.

just pay cash :P

loved the demo btw :)

[Adrik_Senturu]

How the hell do you hack the security bot? It's near impossible.

It took me a few seconds to get the whole revealing tiles and swapping thing down pretty good, but once you have your general path started its pretty easy >_>

[AmishSlayer]

How the hell do you hack the security bot? It's near impossible.

I thought it was painfully easy. I'd just blast one with lightning, start the mini-game and revealing/swapping a bunch of pipes around as fast as i could right away. I always had plenty of time. I'm sure it'll get tougher in the full version.

[Sparta]

I really don't think this game is worth $50.....it looks like a fun rental but I'm sure its one of the those games that are done after 12 hours -_-

System Shock 2 took me 12 hours to finish, when i played it in 2003.

Even though it looked like complete and utter crap, it was still (and still is) one of the best games i've ever played.

[AHA-Lambda]

It took me forever but I've finally got to play the demo and all I can say is :O amazing!

[Vigilante]

Wait, can't you just get a full refund?

I don't know where you live, but here in the UK you can take any game / DVD / CD back to a large store within 1 month (providing you keep the receipt) and get a full refund, no questions asked.

Which basically means you can just rent games for free. I've kinda grown out of it though, as now I only spend my money on things I definitely want to keep in the first place. Last game I returned was Bully for the PS2 I think, just because I needed the money.

Regardless, I can't see why you'd want to take Bioshock back. If it's as good as the reviewers are making it out to be, you'll probably want to frame it and hang it on your wall.

In the U.S. you can't return a game if it's been opened. It may be different in some places in the states, but 99% of companies employ this policy.

[Samon]

In the U.S. you can't return a game if it's been opened. It may be different in some places in the states, but 99% of companies employ this policy.

The same happens over here. Ran into this problem many times with Tesco. "Yeah but the game itself doesn't work." "I'm sorry but you have opened the plastic seal!" "No, listen, the disc, the game." "I'm sorry sir but it's opened!" "Die in a fire."

[Sui]

Solution: don't buy games from Tesco.

[Evo]

Tesco :O

Why for the love of god why!

Everyone should know that supermarkets will rip you off when it comes to returning things

:hmph:

[phantomdesign]

The same happens over here. Ran into this problem many times with Tesco. "Yeah but the game itself doesn't work." "I'm sorry but you have opened the plastic seal!" "No, listen, the disc, the game." "I'm sorry sir but it's opened!" "Die in a fire."

They are required by law to take back faulty products. I'm not a law expert but I've seen it written in a number of places like this sticky on the X3 support forums . . .

http://forum.egosoft.com/viewtopic.php?t=125566
The primary solution to this is to return your game to the retailer you bought it from for a replacement. Note that retailers in most countries, including the US, are legally obliged to replace or refund for faulty goods, and you should not accept "store policy" as an argument against this.

[Gorgon]

Here are some of the artwork posted on the interwebs: ****ing impressive..

http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/1385/img1rc1.jpg

http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/2828/img2tl8.jpg

http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/4063/img3tm8.jpg

http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/6880/img4nt6.jpg

http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/9817/img5do3.jpg

Sui edit: Added spoiler tags.

[Gargantou]

Erm, couldnt you just have posted links instead of the actual images? Because that's sorta spoily because theres many monsters there we havent seen in the demo..

Anyway, I'm so happy I pre-ordered the LE version because I think this game will be a true masterpiece(Which we haven't had for a LONG time in gaming), and the fact that I'll get the Soundtrack CD with the LE makes me orgasm.

[Kyorisu]

The same happens over here. Ran into this problem many times with Tesco. "Yeah but the game itself doesn't work." "I'm sorry but you have opened the plastic seal!" "No, listen, the disc, the game." "I'm sorry sir but it's opened!" "Die in a fire."

Uh sorry but that's complete bullshit right there. I suggest you learn your consumer rights and throw them in any stores face that dares try say otherwise. I have gotten full refunds and apologies by doing so. Down here for example it's something like a full refund if the product is faulty and returned within 7 days. Of course the damn box is going to be open how else do you know the product is faulty? It's retarded logic and those trying to enforce it should be slapped in the face.

Art books for those interested, Aussie mirror.

http://games.internode.on.net/filelist.php?filedetails=10632 - High res.
http://games.internode.on.net/filelist.php?filedetails=10633 - Low res.


http://forum.egosoft.com/viewtopic.php?t=125566

Regarding that quote you'll find many store policies are against the law and are there to trick those unaware.

[Gorgon]

Erm, couldnt you just have posted links instead of the actual images? Because that's sorta spoily because theres many monsters there we havent seen in the demo..

Anyway, I'm so happy I pre-ordered the LE version because I think this game will be a true masterpiece(Which we haven't had for a LONG time in gaming), and the fact that I'll get the Soundtrack CD with the LE makes me orgasm.

I have more artwork from an ebook. I think the game got between 20-35 characters.

as you mentioned (A TRUE MASTERpeice) :thumbs:

[Samon]

Uh sorry but that's complete bullshit right there. I suggest you learn your consumer rights and throw them in any stores face that dares try say otherwise.

I'm afraid I don't carry the consumers rights handbook around with me, otherwise I would have. :P

I suppose that's what you have to expect when Tesco employs kids coming out of school/college for the summer.

[Kyorisu]

I'm afraid I don't carry the consumers rights handbook around with me, otherwise I would have. :P

I didn't mean literally but that's an awesome idea.

[Dalamari]

The demo was amazing, I'll give it a rental for sure but other than the single-player I can't see a reason to buy it

[Kyorisu]

The demo was amazing, I'll give it a rental for sure but other than the single-player I can't see a reason to buy it

The single-player IS the reason to buy it.

[Baserape>]

In the U.S. you can't return a game if it's been opened. It may be different in some places in the states, but 99% of companies employ this policy.

Company policy is not consumer law.

[Samon]

I didn't mean literally but that's an awesome idea.

I know you didn't, I was just commenting on my consumers rights ignorance. :p

[Kyorisu]

I know you didn't, I was just commenting on my consumers rights ignorance. :p

And I knew you knew, ah headache.

Anyway some good gameplay videos here for those who don't have access to an Xbox http://forums.2kgames.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3135

[Narcolepsy]

The demo was amazing, I'll give it a rental for sure but other than the single-player I can't see a reason to buy it
Yeah, other than the game, there's no real reason to buy it.

[Warbie]

:laugh:


Some versions come with a toy - that's another reason.

[Gargantou]

Some? I think only the Limited Editions come with a 'toy' and it isn't a 'toy' per se, seeing as(atleast the ones with the Limited Edition, dunno if there are some with random normal editions) are HAND-PAINTED HARD-RESIN 14 CM large models of ingame characters/figures, which IMO is pretty impressive, i.e. this is not something they've churned out of a factory on a rail, but something someone has spent time to paint and model properly.

[Warbie]

I know mate - my copy is coming with the toy :)

pow, pow, boom, take that master chief!, oh no it's ryu, argh, hadouken!

[Cormeh]

Man, just finished playing it... that was absolutely brilliant. I'm not quite sure how, but I found it to be a refreshing experience.

It all looks and plays amazingly, this is a definite purchase.

One thing:

What's up with that room with the security countdown and the drones? I tried hacking them but could never do it, I assume you've to hack one to prevent the system from activating?

Other than that little frustration there (plus the guys never stopped pouring in on me after that bit) I can't flaw it.

[Combine Hybrid]

I've heard that you can modify weapons into whatever you want. They took out that option, did they?

[Gargantou]

Nope, you're still supposed to be able to modify weapons etc to your liking(Its done via purchases which you make with dollars, thus limiting you to how you spend your money).

[KagePrototype]

Here's a full HD walkthrough of the demo for you silly people without a 360:

http://stage6.divx.com/user/kalkan/video/1520342/BioShock-demo-gameplay

[Evo]

Tempted to buy a 360 just for the demo

:o

[giant384]

Here's a full HD walkthrough of the demo for you silly people without a 360:

http://stage6.divx.com/user/kalkan/video/1520342/BioShock-demo-gameplay

we might as well watch a trailer. pointless.....

[Asuka]

Just played the demo and its really good. Im interested in the story more then anything else.

[Warbie]

Me too. 2k have been very cever in setting the scene so well and making what happened in Rapture a mystery. Intrigue and curiosity - rare things in a video game.

[Adrik_Senturu]

So apparently some Toys R Us's here in NJ and NYC (and some other places) got their bioshock shipments yesterday but with no actual literature on when to put it on the shelves. Some guy posted this before on another forum :
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1400/1119039499_e27c3a5d83.jpg

So yeah im going to a Toys R us near me tommorow to see if this is all true >_>

[mastag]

Good demo. I was dissapointed with the water effects, they seemed to be no better than half life 2.

[Adrik_Senturu]

I was dissapointed with the water effects, they seemed to be no better than half life 2.

Was seriously? Some of it was really good. The part that got was near the elevator, if dont go in and wait a bit something falls on the glass above you and water starts pouring through. Unlike most games where it would just be the water splashing onto the floor and thats about it, it created a big puddle and the puddle started to fill the room a bit, until it was atleast an inch high >_> I thought that was neat.

[Zeus]

This is stupid, that they released a 360 demo and not a PC demo. Why is it that PC gamers are always getting the crap end of the stick? (well I already know the answer to that question, they don't give a shit about the PC fanbase because it's not going to generate as much MONEY as the console market will) And what they did was also a stupid business decision as well, because I (along with many others I'm sure) will not be dropping $50 on a game without trying it first. Especially now that they've proven that console gamers are their main concern, I want to try it first to make sure it's not some Deus Ex Invisible War style console-ized piece of crap.

[Kyorisu]

Theres a process to this.

1. Stare at shiny decor.
2. Wonder what the heck is going on.
3. Smash the kill button about as fast as you can.

This is stupid, that they released a 360 demo and not a PC demo. Why is it that PC gamers are always getting the crap end of the stick? (well I already know the answer to that question, they don't give a shit about the PC fanbase because it's not going to generate as much MONEY as the console market will) And what they did was also a stupid business decision as well, because I (along with many others I'm sure) will not be dropping $50 on a game without trying it first. Especially now that they've proven that console gamers are their main concern, I want to try it first to make sure it's not some Deus Ex Invisible War style console-ized piece of crap.


You sir are a moron. PCs are fundamentally harder to develop for and the dev process takes longer. Get over yourself buddy, you realize for example they had two groups working on the UI? (More than the UI more like the whole damn thing I'm told) Bioshock for PC is not a port. Think about it how many times do console gamers need support or have issues with their graphics or some other problem? Hardly ever but in the PC world it's oh so common.

Did you miss the part where there will still be a PC demo and you can still try before you buy or are you just ignorant?

Good demo. I was dissapointed with the water effects, they seemed to be no better than half life 2.

Uh what? HL2 water did not move and if it did it moved on one axis. Bioshock water is many times superior.

[B_MAN]

ya i don't know what the big deal is
there WILL be a PC demo eventually... can't people wait?
stop whining!

[Kyorisu]

i will not make a promise i cannot keep. i will not promise you that you will receive the demo on a day if i am not sure we can hit that day.

please understand. this is NOT at all a move to try and get more people to buy a 360 version and is actually helping the PC users. we know you want to test out your specs, that you want to see how it runs on your machine. so we need to make sure the demo runs on all machines and all drivers, just like the regular, full game does. it takes a lot of time and a lot of testing. and everyone is working on that right now.

thanks for understanding.

http://forums.2kgames.com/forums/showpost.php?p=72525&postcount=26

So apparently some Toys R Us's here in NJ and NYC (and some other places) got their bioshock shipments yesterday but with no actual literature on when to put it on the shelves. Some guy posted this before on another forum :
<snip>

So yeah im going to a Toys R us near me tommorow to see if this is all true >_>

Apparently no PC versions in sight.

[Zeus]

You sir are a moron. PCs are fundamentally harder to develop for and the dev process takes longer. Get over yourself buddy, you realize for example they had two groups working on the UI? Bioshock for PC is not a port. Think about it how many times do console gamers need support or have issues with their graphics or some other problem? Hardly ever but in the PC world it's oh so common.

Did you miss the part where there will still be a PC demo and you can still try before you buy or are you just ignorant?


Wait I got a question for you too..who do you think you are by calling me a moron? I'm a person who enjoys playing PC games in my spare time and I'm annoyed that they didn't release a PC demo yet(I don't have a 360 to try bioshock). Yet you act like I don't have a right to say anything about it.

[Kyorisu]

Wait I got a question for you too..who do you think you are by calling me a moron?

I called you one because I'm bloody sick and tired of people complaining about one thing or another and pushing the "consoles make monies" argument. You can say whatever you want just don't expect to not get flamed when you say something stupid. I'm annoyed too trust me on that one mate.

[giant384]

from the 2k website it will be a couple of days before the demo is out for pc. it will be released before the full game though. cant wait :D

[mastag]

I shall now admit I was wrong. I had not gotten to that part yet. Damn good water effects.

[DeusExMachina]

Reserved my copy yesterday

[Gargantou]

If you're getting the LE version say aye!

Aye.

[Krynn72]

Nay.

I probably wont get it until christmas.


Im so broke.

[Rapstah]

Toys R Us sells Bioshock? :hmph:

[Kyorisu]

http://img358.imageshack.us/img358/9406/imagegg0.jpg

[BHC]

I have to say I'm somewhat worried about the apparent lack of any sort of news regarding the PC version.
Either that or I'm going a little bit nutty waiting for this - it's a breath of fresh air that myself, and the gaming community needs.

[Bad^Hat]

Only just got my 360 back from repairs today, and went straight to downloading the demo, which was done surprisingly fast.

Dayumn. Is all I have to say.

Absolutely stunned at how detailed and rich the environments are. Technically it's great, obviously, but the art direction has me totally gobsmacked. Love it.

Oh, and it seems pretty fun to play, too :)

Pre-ordered!

[AHA-Lambda]

If you're getting the LE version say aye!

Aye.

Aye. Big daddy figurine FTW

*imagines if it would look good next to my evangelion models next to my comp*

[Sparta]

Me too. 2k have been very cever in setting the scene so well and making what happened in Rapture a mystery. Intrigue and curiosity - rare things in a video game.

I thought 2k was the publisher, not the developer? I heard the developer was a new team made up from people who worked on SS2?

[Cerpin]

Irrational developed the game, as well as people from Looking Glass Studios and some guys who worked on Thief 3. Irrational are now known as 2K Boston.

[Gargantou]

Objectivism, the philosophy that the team used as inspiration for Rapture, was created by Ayn Rand, which they make a 'play-on-words' with in the game with the creator of Rapture being called Andrew Ryan, it's a very interesting philosophy imo, based on "Let it go capitalism", i.e. every person has the full right to do whatever he wants with his own 'property'.

[Kyorisu]

Irrational developed the game, as well as people from Looking Glass Studios and some guys who worked on Thief 3. Irrational are now known as 2K Boston.

Wow way to paint half the story there. Irrational became 2K Boston and 2K Australia. Check out the art book it lists employees from both countries.

[Cerpin]

I'm so sorry I forgot 2K Australia. I'm so so so so so sorry, Kyorisu.

[Kyorisu]

I'm so sorry I forgot 2K Australia. I'm so so so so so sorry, Kyorisu.

Damn right.

[Samon]

I need money for this game sharpish.

[CptStern]

I'm afraid this game may make wet my pants ...are there any "OMG! I SCARED!! MY HEART!!!" moments in the game?

playing stalker the other night in my new house all alone 1 am when I hear a loud bang coming from a closet right behind me followed by the sound of tons of liquid hitting the floor ..I jumped out of my seat (almost ripping my headphones off) ..I open the closet door and I see water dripping from the door jamb and the ceiling ..it's dark, I just smoked one and it kinda looks like blood ..needless to say I screamed like a little girl till I put two and two together ...a contractor working on my kitchen above left a full pail of murkey cement water which tipped over leaking into the floor below (construction, the floor is exposed) ..anyways it scared the shit out of me ..so had that happened while playing Bioshock I truely would have made poopy in my pants!!!

[Tyguy]

There really isnt anything scary in the demo....the water effect are decent, yet i think they need work at parts....Guns are ok (you only get 1 and a wrench) the plasmids are pretty cool, you get an electricity one as well as the ability to set people on fire, and sometimes they dive into the water to put it out, kinda cool....

ALl in all, id give it an 8.5/10...but thats just the demo, the actual game is probably much better overall

[Adrik_Senturu]

The only part that was a bit freaky was right at the beginning of the demo when the splicer tries to get into the Bathyosphere. Holy shit I was looking all directions thinking that bitch was gonna come in D: So yeah I played it a second time through and theres alot of shit I missed. Like news papers with info about Rapture. Also in one of the Audio Diaries you can clearly here "Long live Atlas" in the backround. Interesting :O

Also:

http://www.penny-arcade.com/images/2007/20070814.jpg

[comoxer]

Anyone else "reserved" the demo on fileplanet? not too sure about estimated date :|

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c111/comoxer/file-1.jpg

[Javert]

I just played the demo yesterday at my friend's house. He had a 47-inch Sony Bravia with 1080p and an hdmi port on his 360.

It was the most beautiful and exciting video game demo I have ever played. It is probably the best 15-20 minutes of video gaming I have ever experienced since the City 17 train station. This game makes me proud of video games and can be included in the list of "Video Games as Art", joining the ranks of Super Mario 64, Grim Fandango, and Half-Life 2. And not to be too "fanboy-ish", this has shamed every game the PS3 has either released or demo'ed thus far (I'm looking at you Heavenly Sword).

[StardogChampion]

Here's a walkthrough of the demo:
Tb15GRTHPto

Click "more from this user" to get the rest of it.

[Warbie]

Eurogamer 10/10

http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=81479&page=1

booyah!

[jimbo118]

Eurogamer 10/10

http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=81479&page=1

booyah!

so AWESOME!

It takes the tired, worn-out FPS genre by the scruff of the neck and reinvents it in such a breathtaking fashion that it's going to take something very special to top this in the months ahead
my hypometer just exploded.

[Warbie]

my hypometer just exploded.

heh, mine to.

'It's a game all about being observant and experimenting - and when it all comes together, it offers possibly the most thrilling combat in any FPS you've ever experienced. The scope to do things your way is simply mind boggling, in such a way it makes regular shooters look pathetically dated and uninspired by comparison.'

[taviow]

Too bad I'm only playing this game around christmas, when I get my new computer. Looks so fantastic, I read the reviews and I'm really impressed. This is the first I'm going to install when I get my new PC.

[mortiz]

Where's the PC demo? I don't understand the delay, why couldn't they just have released the demo's together? Not that I can play the demo until tomorrow, possibly the day after, anyhow since my current PC won't run it.

[taviow]

Eurogamer.net: 10/10
Game Informer: 10/10
Games Radar: 10/10
OXM UK: 10/10
PC Zone: 96%
PC Gamer UK: 95%

FANTASTIC

[phantomdesign]

I don't understand the delay, but whatever, I'm always annoyed when they delay a release of a game because of problems with ONE of the platforms.

[TheAntipop]

Release day can't come soon enough. I think I'm going to spend the next week doing all my coursework so that when it releases I can focus on playing Bioshock as much as I want without having to think about work.

:D

Gonna get the demo tomorrow. Forget AS exam results, this demo has me excited for tomorrow!

[Alan00000]

Pc demo tomorrow?

[giant384]

Pc demo tomorrow?

i think he meant the 360 one

[B_MAN]

wow it's gonna be hard not to pick this up for my 360... although id rather play it on PC

[giant384]

pc will be alot better. they are making 2 different versions and not a crappy port so it has to be great for pc.

[Pauly]

Xbox 360 full version has leaked to the torrent sites o0

[Kyorisu]

Xbox 360 full version has leaked to the torrent sites o0

It is not cool to report what you see on torrent sites k? People know what they are and they can find out for themselves if they so wish.

[Krynn72]

Art book w00t!

http://www.2kgames.com/cultofrapture/artbook.html

[Fliko]

Rofl, damn commerical said the game was available now and I rushed downstairs to my computer to confirm, and nothing.

[Bad^Hat]

I'm afraid this game may make wet my pants ...are there any "OMG! I SCARED!! MY HEART!!!" moments in the game?
This game looks like it's gonna be scary in a pretty smart way. There aren't really any cheap scares or things jumping out at you in the demo, the scares are spontaneous and the effect is created by the atmosphere.

Err, lemme try give an example. One of the only times I've actually jumped in my seat while playing was when a light fizzled out as I walked past it. Normally this wouldn't have even phased me, but at the time I was unarmed and approaching an enemy I'd just seen brutally kill someone, and I could hear his crazed ramblings echoing down the hall towards me.

Also, one other time I was making my way through a bathroom, and as I was exiting I heard something behind me that sounded like a stall slamming open. So I slowly turn around and carefully ease towards the door again, and as I'm about to round the corner something freakin JUMPS out at me, so I zap it with my lightning plasmid.

Turns out it was just the security bot I hacked about 10 minutes ago, and it was banging off the walls as it attempted to follow me through, which must have been what I was hearing. And by shocking it, I just disabled my own bot :D

So yeah. Smart scary. In a way that makes you act stupid.

[Kyorisu]

Rofl, damn commerical said the game was available now and I rushed downstairs to my computer to confirm, and nothing.

PR stuff ups.

[Gargantou]

About the leaked 360 version, if you don't buy this game, that means you just keep discouraging developers like this to take their time and make good games.

[Kyorisu]

About the leaked 360 version, if you don't buy this game, that means you just keep discouraging developers like this to take their time and make good games.

Uh you might want to rewrite that. Buying the game early because a store screwed up doesn't encourage or discourage anything. It's very easy to tell developers not to rush things and that's to bash products that clearly have been rushed. The way you do that is via your spending power, don't buy rushed products.

[Warbie]

pc will be alot better

Yeh. The pc version will get 11/10 ;)

[Gargantou]

Kyo, I wasn't talking about the store or BUYING the game, I was talking about the torrent that's out on various networks of the 360 version, if you warez this game I will hunt you down and SKULL**** you.

[Mikael Grizzly]

Kyo, I wasn't talking about the store or BUYING the game, I was talking about the torrent that's out on various networks of the 360 version, if you warez this game I will hunt you down and SKULL**** you.

Ditto.

But why skull****? There are various other methods to deal pain to a pirate. We could begin by taking needlees and slowly jamming them under the nails, both toe- and fingernails. Then burn off the tips of the fingers with a lighter as well as cut off the ears with a rusty garden knife. And, of course, have everything shown to the ****er on a video screen.

Next, take a shardp saw and saw off the fingers one by one, patching the wounds so as the subject will not die prematurely of blood loss. Then we can proceed and slowly file down the teeth.

As the subject goes into shock we can optionally cut open the balls and remove them, stringing them around his/her's neck and dump the mutilated body in front of their house and traumatize children.

PROFIT.

[Kyorisu]

Kyo, I wasn't talking about the store or BUYING the game, I was talking about the torrent that's out on various networks of the 360 version, if you warez this game I will hunt you down and SKULL**** you.


Oh that makes sense then. As for the pirates they can rot for all I care.

[3ssence]

This game looks like it's gonna be scary in a pretty smart way. There aren't really any cheap scares or things jumping out at you in the demo, the scares are spontaneous and the effect is created by the atmosphere.

So yeah. Smart scary. In a way that makes you act stupid.

I agree with this wholeheartedly. I'm very easily scared by the cheap, something jumping out at you from the darkness type moments, but the Bioshock demo was more a case of creating an atmosphere and cinematic moments that were both brutal and scary, but not in a heart palpitation kind of way ! Which is nice, because my heart jumping out of my ribcage is not so fun.

[Warbie]

Gamespot Q&A with Ken Levine:

http://uk.gamespot.com/xbox360/action/bioshock/news.html?sid=6176698&tag=news_previews%3Btitle%3B1&page=1

Just to keep the hype rolling along :)

'But BioShock is also a game of nooks and crannies. There's never been a shooter with more "non-critical" space, space designed for players to explore and discover.'

[Kyorisu]

Exploring is one of the fun parts imo.

[Gargantou]

'But BioShock is also a game of nooks and crannies. There's never been a shooter with more "non-critical" space, space designed for players to explore and discover.'Erm, guess he hasnt heard of Penumbra, it is a First Person 'Shooter' with a large focus on puzzle solving and exploring rather than shooting.

[Cerpin]

Or Stalker.

[Cormeh]

He probably has, but it wouldn't be very good promotion to say "There's never been a shooter with more `non-critical' space, space designed for players to explore and discover.... except Penumbra though. Actually, go and buy that".

[Kyorisu]

Erm, guess he hasnt heard of Penumbra, it is a First Person 'Shooter' with a large focus on puzzle solving and exploring rather than shooting.

PR i.e. "OUR GAME IS TEH BEST NOTHING COMES CLOSE TO THIS."

[Bad^Hat]

Eh, Ken just loves to hype. It's obvious even from the tone of his voice that he has that designer giddiness you see sometimes, where no matter how many times he's interviewed he's always excited to talk about it and hype it up more and more.

He's like Peter Molyneux, you know, except without the senility.

[Kyorisu]

Big K: This water is so good you'd have sex with it given the opportunity.

Not real btw

[Gargantou]

He's like Peter Molyneux, you know, except without the senility.And without the whole lying about pointless features such as carving your name into a tree.

[StardogChampion]

The demo looked like there's a lot of triggered stuff. Walking into an area triggering a fight between two enemies, walking past the bathroom door then turning back triggering the guy jumping out on you.

Hopefully the full game won't be like that as much.

[Kyorisu]

The demo looked like there's a lot of triggered stuff. Walking into an area triggering a fight between two enemies, walking past the bathroom door then turning back triggering the guy jumping out on you.

Hopefully the full game won't be like that as much.

To be fair it's the introduction to the game and things have to be staged at that point. Meanwhile the 2K forums are hilarious, so much speculation and outright silly people.

[CptStern]

This game looks like it's gonna be scary in a pretty smart way. There aren't really any cheap scares or things jumping out at you in the demo, the scares are spontaneous and the effect is created by the atmosphere.

Err, lemme try give an example. One of the only times I've actually jumped in my seat while playing was when a light fizzled out as I walked past it. Normally this wouldn't have even phased me, but at the time I was unarmed and approaching an enemy I'd just seen brutally kill someone, and I could hear his crazed ramblings echoing down the hall towards me.

Also, one other time I was making my way through a bathroom, and as I was exiting I heard something behind me that sounded like a stall slamming open. So I slowly turn around and carefully ease towards the door again, and as I'm about to round the corner something freakin JUMPS out at me, so I zap it with my lightning plasmid.

Turns out it was just the security bot I hacked about 10 minutes ago, and it was banging off the walls as it attempted to follow me through, which must have been what I was hearing. And by shocking it, I just disabled my own bot :D

So yeah. Smart scary. In a way that makes you act stupid.




I agree with this wholeheartedly. I'm very easily scared by the cheap, something jumping out at you from the darkness type moments, but the Bioshock demo was more a case of creating an atmosphere and cinematic moments that were both brutal and scary, but not in a heart palpitation kind of way ! Which is nice, because my heart jumping out of my ribcage is not so fun.

I'm not easily scared by things that jump out of scripted closets however atmosphere does it for me every time ..stalker for example, failling through an unseen trap door on a rooftop while in a firefight only to be plunged into near total darkness with the sound of those face monsters coming at me made me fire my gun wildly as I'd jump at each sound ..man that game was scary at times ..guess I get too immersed in some games, especially atmospheric games ..but it's all fun as I get a kick out of atmospheric games

[TheAntipop]

Heh I was pretty creeped out in the first 5 minutes of that demo. After the Splicer kills that bloke in front of the bathyspheres window I was really cautious about leaving it, esp. since the entire room was bathed in deep shadows and darkness. But feth, this game looks awesome. Gonna go play the demo again later.

One thing that's been bugging me recently - are Big Daddies, Splicers and Bots/Cameras the only enemies? I remember seeing concept art of these grotesque looking The Fly-esqe half human half bug mutants. I hope these and more are included. It'll make the exp. much more creepier and survival like if I'm running away from things other than crazed humans.

[VictimOfScience]

The demo looked like there's a lot of triggered stuff. Walking into an area triggering a fight between two enemies, walking past the bathroom door then turning back triggering the guy jumping out on you.

Hopefully the full game won't be like that as much.
Indeed. From all of the interviews and such I thought that it would be totally AI driven and that fights would break out whether you were near them or not. I loved to see that kind of thing in Oblivion, for instance, so it would be great if that is the case here too. I guess we will have to wait and see the finished version. Damn the Falcons for not flying to my local game emporium faster!!!

[Adrik_Senturu]

The only part that really scared me was right in the beginning with the splicer trying to break in and the laughing and all that. Yeah gtfo >_>

Normally enemies jumping out of closets or anything like that dont scare me but the splicer in the bathroom stall got me D: Which reminded me of one god awful moment in Condemned where you walk over to a locker to see if theres anything in it and the thing starts shaking and shit and out comes one of those damn things. Bastards >_>

[Kyorisu]

Hmm still should be an awesome game.

[Atomic_Piggy]

I've just played through it, took nearly an hour looking at the beautiful environs. Christ, that was sex.

[Samon]

Damn, hype rising.

[Gargantou]

24th cant come soon enough, I am gonna bring my BioShock figurine to my kindergarten class!!!!!*J/k*

[CptStern]

you're in kindergarten? ..or just outside the window looking in?

[CR0M]

buttmonkeys.

[CptStern]

http://j-walkblog.com/blog/images2/mjface.jpg

Peekaboo

http://www.offramp.org/~lapis/images/pedobear.png


fixed

[CR0M]

thanx. far more realistic and ultimately more attractive. I would.

[Baserape>]

A pretty crap game that has the replay value of 0. I might have given it a replay value of 5 if it had multiplayer or possibly 5.1 if your character cast a shadow.

:D at the suckers who buy this game for ?49.99, I think I'll wait 3 months and pick it up for ?24.99, clock it and trade the sucker in.

;(

[Mikael Grizzly]

fixed

OH SHI--

Pedobear is the BIG DADDY!

D:

[Rapstah]

I'm waiting for a PC demo before I buy this, mainly to see how my computer runs it.

[cadaver]

Im trying to decide to go with a gts8800 320mb or a x1950pro 256mb. If the x1950pro can pull off bioshock on maximum settings Il go for that. Any advice on this?

Current rig: asus p5k, e4400(2.8ghz), 2gb 6400 ram.

:imu:

[xcellerate]

I'm preloading it off steam right now, just gotta wait like however many more days...

[Rapstah]

My graphics card runs it, but I wonder if my 3.5 GHZ Processor and 1 GB RAM will do it :|

[Warbie]

Blimey, another 10/10

http://www.1up.com/do/reviewPage?cId=3162017&sec=REVIEWS

[TollBooth Willie]

Ugh, I need a little help connecting to Live. My system doesn't seem to get a connection when I plug the cable into my laptop.

[Samon]

The gameplay vids don't do much for me, but I'm rather looking forward to it.

[Krynn72]

I just played the demo at a friends house (i aint gots no 360) and it was good. I still dont see whats so revolutionary about it though. It looks like a damn great game that has incorporated features that we have already seen.

[Warbie]

I guess we'll find out soon enough. Alot seems to hinge on how much the game makes Rapture feel like a real place - which is what Ken Levine keeps going on about in interviews.

[Bad^Hat]

IGN review up - http://au.xbox360.ign.com/articles/813/813214p1.html

Gave it a 9.7, which is pretty generous for IGN, considering they gave Halo 2 a 9.8. Lulz.

[Tick]

I just finished playing it...its ****ing sweet!

[Kyorisu]

recap of reviews to help the wait? (not really but make it harder) to the demo, and more importantly the game.

OXM UK - 10/10
Alternative Press - 5/5
Game Informer - 10/10
Game.tv - 10/10
Playboy (take it for what it's worth) - 4/4 Bunnies
GamesRadar - 10/10
PC Gamer UK - 9.5/10
Xbox World - 9.4/10
Eurogamer - 10/10
PC Zone - 96%
Gamers - 98%
1up -10/10
gamespy 5/5
Console Gameworld - 99%
Ign - 9.7
Teamxbox - 9.5
Gamepro - 10/10
GameArena 5/5
Gametap: 10/10
Under Ground Online (UGO): A+
X-360: 10/10

Seems people love it.

[CR0M]

Just watched the 'official' vid again. For those who have already played - is there an option to switch off those nasty healthbars above everyone's heads?

[soulslicer]

when does the pc demo come out??

[Kyorisu]

when does the pc demo come out??

Nobody knows for certain.

[giant384]

when does the pc demo come out??

they said before the game is released. so for all we know it could come monday lol

[TheAntipop]

Just watched the 'official' vid again. For those who have already played - is there an option to switch off those nasty healthbars above everyone's heads?

Aye, I hope they can be.

Anyway, just back from playing the demo for a third time. I'm literally gobsmacked by it all. Everything. It's just... awesome. There are one or two things that have struck me as odd, such as the ragdolls of dead enemies who always seem to crumble over dead completly straight legged and rigid. And I'd like to see the blood actually making an impact on the environment, like splashes and stuff, but that's my desire for gore speaking.

Other than those, this is really quite something. The atmosphere and eerieness of it all is top notch, from slowly walking down empty, darkened corridors to stumbling across a bloody and barricaded, corpse ridden airlock or door.

I must of spent a good deal of the game actually walking slowly, just soaking (heh heh) everything up, and then literally jumping up from my chair at even the smallest of sounds, which I'll tell you now, there's a helluva lot of atmospheric/ambient background noise. Glass cracking underfoot from some unseen foe, the gentle drip-drip of a leaky pipe, footsteps and crazed cackles front, left and centre, the pressurized strain of the ocean against the underwater walkways, objects being knocked over. At one point, as I entered the Kashmir restuarant, I was seriously creeped out by all the noises. I probably spent a good minute just standing in the middle of the room, pistol raised, literally revolving on the spot frantically to see where the noises were coming from. I myself as standing on a pile of rubble and broken glass, natch, but even after relocating still the sounds of others present followed me around the room, eventually ending in me being rushed from behind by a crazed Splicer with a lead pipe, but he was swiftly electrocuted.

It's a short demo, but I'll be damned if it's not the best demo I've played in a while. I can't WAIT to get my hands on the real thing. After hearing one or two recorded blogs from former citizens of Rapture, and finding non-mutated humans mangaled in a gorey mess throughout the corridors, aswell as actually seeing what I presumed was a survivor, banging on a closed doorway with a torch in his hand, I've never been more eager to get into a game and uncover it's secrets and story.

[giant384]

i just recently saw a bioshock commercial and it said the demo is available on bioshockgame.com (http://www.halflife2.net/forums/bioshockgame.com)
(its the new bioshock main website)
well its not released yet, but that means that it will possibly be released tonight or tomorrow.

edit:ive read on the 2k forums that they have been receiving messages of it being put up for download on monday.

[Warbie]

Has anyone else enoticed dead splicers waving at you as they lay on the floor. It's a little bit freaky.

//edit

First bad review!!

http://www.sonydefenseforce.com/?p=83

*cancels pre-order*

[AHA-Lambda]

oh no the almighty word of the sony defence force :O beware their bad reviews for bioshock, halo 3 and the holy gospel of an inevitable 10/10 for lair.

[Rapstah]

His only problem with Bioshock was apparently it not being on Blu-Ray. :hmph:

[TheAntipop]

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

He doesn't even go onto to explain in detail any of the glitches he's found. I didn't even spot any glitches in the demo, save for the shaking-hand animation that Warbie also noted. Christ, what should I of really expected from a website called 'Sony Defence Force', though? Title says it all really. Ignorance is bliss, supporting one singular console ftw, yak yak yak...

[jimbo118]

theres actually a website called sony defense force, actually scrap that, theres actually websites like this in general, so much fail, jesus.

[Gorgon]

all reviews are WOW.

just wait for the final gamespot Review

[Warbie]

I'm curious what score Edge will give.

[Kyorisu]

http://www.sonydefenseforce.com/?p=83


Oh wow what a bloody joke, that guy should be ashamed.

[Warbie]

It's the guy's only review too. Funny :)

[Shakermaker]

For what it's worth: got the demo reserved on FP and the download manager would check every 24 hours. Just now that changed to every 2 hours. :D

[Evo]

For what it's worth: got the demo reserved on FP and the download manager would check every 24 hours. Just now that changed to every 2 hours. :D

Damn i want teh Demo! :frown:

[Fliko]

Still, 2K said their working to have the demo out on Monday

[DEATHMASTER]

**** that, I'm going to the beach for a ****in week on monday, the ****ers.

[A True Canadian]

Still, 2K said their working to have the demo out on Monday

Yeah, I don't see them releasing it on the weekend. Actually, I don't see them releasing it before the 21st either.


Hmm, I seem to be getting more and more pessimistic as the days go on...

[Gunner]

I went to gamestop by my house to reserve a copy. The guy looked in his inventory, said there were only 2 pc copies and one was reserved. So I said I wanted the other one, he said "no can do." Now I gotta be the first asshole on release day in the store.

[DEATHMASTER]

steam?

[Gunner]

steam?

Nah I like the boxed versions, I bought a lot of stuff on steam and I kinda regret it. Besides I'd like to have the big daddy figurine.

[Acepilotf14]

Haha... All the reviews of the review are hate. And he thinks it's coming to the PS3.
Hah.

[Kyorisu]

Yeah I think 2K went with the two logical money makers that are not a pain in the arse to develop for.

[Sparta]

just wait for the final gamespot Review

Gamespot have had really dodgy reviews in the past two or so years. Giving scores in the mid 80's to games that deserve 90's, and giving 90's to games that deserve 80's.

[theotherguy]

Meh. I'll try the PC demo, but the gameplay vids made this game look like garbage.

[Kyorisu]

Meh. I'll try the PC demo, but the gameplay vids made this game look like garbage.

I read posts like this and I think "wow"

[DeusExMachina]

Be comforted by the fact that he'll DIE one day.

[gowiththefl0w]

yeah, where exactly is that coming from. What eyes are you using to see the game...maybe you saw some videos of bomberman zero instead? Everything i've seen has looked great, and I'm actively searching for places to get a copy at midnight.

[DeusExMachina]

Wow, gamespot review says 9.0, but the actual review makes it sound like an 8.

[Sedako]

Wow, gamespot review says 9.0, but the actual review makes it sound like an 8.

Gamespot is just one person's opinions on the game. Metacritic so far is at 9.7 average, with Gamespot being the lowest review counted.

http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/xbox360/bioshock

[jimbo118]

Wow, gamespot review says 9.0, but the actual review makes it sound like an 8.

yeah just read and watched the review, that sucks about the freezing glitch, you can see it numerous times in the vid review.

[Combine Hybrid]

but then again, name one game that does not have a glitch...

seriously, giving a score based on a glitch? That means I can give a score based on how much the game's story sucks or not.