Bioshock reviewed!!

[Combine Hybrid]

Verdict: Perfect 10

95% from PC gamer
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[Samon]

Scans are not allowed.

[Icarusintel]

Scans are not allowed.
I was going to mention that.. but I had to get through reading all of them first. :D

[Samon]

Yeah, I made sure to open them all before taking away the links.

[Icarusintel]

Yeah, I made sure to open them all before taking away the links.
We're so smart. We should start fighting crime together.


Oh, and the review made Bioshock sound pretty boss. Too bad the OP didn;t post the PCGamer review instead, since it would have been more relevant.

[DigiQ8]

paah i missed thme

[Gargantou]

Sounds sweet, now to decide wether I should get the PC version or the 360 version.. Decisions decisions!

I'm very glad of this positive review anyway, I was very worried that BioShock would be a very subpar sequel to the 'Shock' games, I guess I was wrong.:D

[DeusExMachina]

So uh...anyone wanna share that information >_>

[Cormeh]

PM me the info so we won't get in trouble because no one will know.

Only 4 weeks left now. :\

[Absinthe]

Scans are not allowed.

You deprive me!

Oh well, 95%. That's shit hot. But I'm not all that trusting of PC Gamer's reviews. So let's see if anybody else corroborates.

[Javert]

Hmm, looks like it's time to make a trip to the magazine stands.

[Harryz]

95%? Is that PC Gamer UK or US?

[Samon]

PC Gamer isn't very respectable in my most humble opinion (Oblivion), and the other was from an Xbox magazine that gave Halo 2 10 and Pariah an 8.9. See where I'm going with this?

[Absinthe]

Well, that doesn't bode well at all.

[giant384]

lol pariah was horrible

[Samon]

Well, that doesn't bode well at all.

Yeah sorry to be the pooper an all.

[VictimOfScience]

Hmm, well, if those Falconed 360s ever come out, I will have this and will likely love it. Not upgrading the PC til next year, so that version will just have to wait (and come down in price in the interim :)).

[Hazar]

that's PCG UK

we'll see what the other's say.

[hneaz]

my pc gamer september issue has Bioshock 2 on the top right of the front cover.... weird...

[StardogChampion]

This is the UK PC Gamer isn't it? They're usually less lame than the american one.

[Qonfused]

This is the UK PC Gamer isn't it? They're usually less lame than the american one.

Of course.

[Tyguy]

I usually go with which game jack thompson hates the most....and they are ALL good

[Tamer17]

Without implying anthing, magazine's written review of a game 3 weeks before release isn't the most reliable.

[Combine Hybrid]

Without implying anthing, magazine's written review of a game 3 weeks before release isn't the most reliable.
is that your opinion?

[AHA-Lambda]

OXM has gave the game 10/10

[Samon]

OXM has gave the game 10/10

Yes, but OXM isn't worth the shit on my boot.

[Gargantou]

It's a hyped 360 exclusive game(Console-wise), what more can ya expect?:p

[Warbie]

I expect greatness. Let's see what Edge and Games TM have to say.

[AHA-Lambda]

I expect greatness aswell. It may be from a 360 mag. But I haven't seen OXM give 10/10 to games left, right and center.

[Samon]

Halo 2 the greatest FPS experience ever? Pariah an original and brilliant shooter? What a credible magazine.

[AHA-Lambda]

Halo 2 the greatest FPS experience ever? Pariah an original and brilliant shooter? What a credible magazine.

Alright if they said that then I take that back. I didn't know that.

Pariah *shudders*

[CR0M]

Mag reviews are notoriously biased, more often than not on a personal level. The intarnets gives me all the valued opinions I need.

Other than that, a demo is the only sure-fire way of getting a good feel for a game.

[mastag]

PM ME

please.

[L3adCannon]

**** Yeah!
Now I just need the demo to get to see if it really is that bloody good.

[CptStern]

Mag reviews are notoriously biased, more often than not on a personal level. The intarnets gives me all the valued opinions I need.

Other than that, a demo is the only sure-fire way of getting a good feel for a game.

there's a xbox360 demo coming soon ..probably with a pc demo to follow ...however it's released in 2 weeks right?

[Gray Fox]

In the age of torrents, who needs gaming review sites?

[Qonfused]

In the age of torrents, who needs gaming review sites?

.

[Hazar]

the people who have a finite amount of time and money

[CptStern]

In the age of torrents, who needs gaming review sites?

.


which is another reason why pc game developers are jumping ship and moving to consoles or working on online only pc games

[Gargantou]

which is another reason why pc game developers are jumping ship and moving to consoles or working on online only pc gamesAww comeon, let's not try to be REASONABLE with warezers, I mean, I'm sure they are aware of the fact that copying another persons work without their consent is never right.:upstare:

[Llama]

This is very good news - I trust PCG UK a hell of a lot, they don't usually get anything wrong.

[Samon]

I've always thought they were pretty shite myself.

[CptStern]

Aww comeon, let's not try to be REASONABLE with warezers, I mean, I'm sure they are aware of the fact that copying another persons work without their consent is never right.:upstare:

who cares about the morality behind the issue, people eat meat every single day and they dont seem to bothered with the ethical problems it brings about ...anyways no the real issue is that warz-erers are shooting themselves in the foot ..sooner or later developers are going to see it as too much of a losing battle and will simply move to an online service like steam or similiar thereby cutting off pirating or at least making it far more difficult

[Gargantou]

who cares about the morality behind the issue, people eat meat every single day and they dont seem to bothered with the ethical problems it brings aboutDid you just compare playing games to eating food? Good going!:laugh:
Whereas eating food is actually a REQUIREMENT in order to survive, atleast a biological requirement, I'd say gaming isnt so much, so I'd say they're quite different issues, with or without morality involved..

[Qonfused]

It's Stern... he has to bring in political/world issues into a topic that's irrelevant to said political/world issues. And, good for the companies who adopt Valve's way of thinking with Steam. More companies need to do that.

[CptStern]

Did you just compare playing games to eating food? Good going!:laugh:

and I waste my time because you fail to see the point ..way to go

Whereas eating food is actually a REQUIREMENT in order to survive, atleast a biological requirement, I'd say gaming isnt so much, so I'd say they're quite different issues, with or without morality involved..

forget it, went right over your head

[Tick]

I will rent it for 360 when it comes out,Im saving up for a super PC so I cant just spend $50 for a game that entertains me for 8 hours.

[Gray Fox]

who cares about the morality behind the issue, people eat meat every single day and they dont seem to bothered with the ethical problems it brings about ...anyways no the real issue is that warz-erers are shooting themselves in the foot ..sooner or later developers are going to see it as too much of a losing battle and will simply move to an online service like steam or similiar thereby cutting off pirating or at least making it far more difficult

First, I meant torrenting as in, having the ability to play the game fully and then judge weather or not you want to buy it.

Second, pirating for consoles is much easier, never any driver issues, patch issues, draconian anti-pirating measures, just burn and pop it in the tray.

Don't kid yourself, PC gaming is dying because it's complicated and expensive.

[Krynn72]

I'm sure they are aware of the fact that copying another persons work without their consent is never right.:upstare:

They are though. They just dont give a shit.

And OOOOOOO a pre-release review huh?! IM SURE THEY JUDGED IT FAIRLY. Developers dont give out early review builds to anyone who wont ass kiss the game. Same thing happened with oblivion. All the pre-release reviews raved about it. Then after release it started receiving negative press, which is exactly what the publishers want, since everyone went out and bought it already based on the early reviews.

[Qonfused]

Same thing happens with shitty games. Reviewers withhold the reviews until two weeks after release.

[Krynn72]

Yup, everyone is on everyone's paycheck.

[CptStern]

First, I meant torrenting as in, having the ability to play the game fully and then judge weather or not you want to buy it.

yes like a glorified demo that you play to the very end yet for some odd reason pay full price for later ..sure it's a possibility but for every single game? come on

Second, pirating for consoles is much easier, never any driver issues, patch issues, draconian anti-pirating measures, just burn and pop it in the tray.

first of all yes it's easier to pirate but that doesnt mean more people pirate console games than pc games ..that's just not at all realistic ..how many people have mod chips installed? judging for the installed user base of xbox live not a heck of a lot ..you dont need anything to pirate pc games ..if you can hit the download but, mount the cd, hit the installer and then type in a cd-key from a cd-generator you can pirate a game ..it's really that easy

Don't kid yourself, PC gaming is dying because it's complicated and expensive.

and lost sales to pirating has nothing to do with it? why are game compaines like Funcom going Online only? (http://www.warcry.com/news/view/69659-Funcom-Leaving-the-Offline-Business) or moving to consoles?

http://www.joystiq.com/2007/03/09/id-software-ceo-piracy-pushed-us-multiplatform/

it's not the single reason but it's one of the reasons why pc gaming is lagging

[VictimOfScience]

The demo has been approved btw (http://ve3d.ign.com/articles/809/809225p1.html). Short be a fairly short time before they announce it. :thumbs:

[Qonfused]

snip

Goddamn it... I thought we got rid of Shasta.

D:

And for the record, if I ever do download a game and find it to be really good, I usually go out and buy it out of principal. I'm probably one of the few, though.

[Gargantou]

I'm sorry for missing your point CptStern, I do not deserve to be on the same forum as you because I'm obviously of a lower-rank on the foodchain of the internets.:(

[CptStern]

besides the fact that our names both start with "S" I dont see the similiarity


I'm sorry for missing your point CptStern, I do not deserve to be on the same forum as you because I'm obviously of a lower-rank on the foodchain of the internets.:(


so instead of attempting to understand the point presented you resort to snide remarks ....and then you wonder why I dont bother explaining. Meh, not my loss

[Gargantou]

Actually I was completely serious, and if you are willing to take the time to explain I would highly appreciate it, I never say No to a chance to improve myself.

[Krynn72]

I downloaded Company of Heroes, and then went out and bought it. I also downloaded Dark Messiah the day before release, and canceled my preorder because it wasnt worth it. Oh, and I just recently downloaded Rome: Total War because I left my CDs at my parents house.

Im a relatively decent pirate i guess. I cant think of many games that I downloaded and havent actually bought.

@Gargantou: Hes already started explaining it...

Wait wtf... this thread isnt about piracy. Stop getting me off topic!

[Absinthe]

TORRENT THE BITCH

[Gorgon]

yes I told ya this is gone score over 9.0

finally there is a title to buy, and not to pirate :)

[Gray Fox]

I'm willing to bet you'll pirate it anyway, even if you buy it first. Just out of principal.

[B_MAN]

PC Gamer isn't very respectable in my most humble opinion (Oblivion), and the other was from an Xbox magazine that gave Halo 2 10 and Pariah an 8.9. See where I'm going with this?

ya they do tend to overrate things
still, it's probably a fantastic game

[brink's]

Can someone help me out with the system reqs for this game? According to Wiki i have everything( just barely), the only thing that worries me is my graphics card, i have a 9600proATI and it recommends

"DirectX 9.0c compliant card with 128MB RAM
(NVIDIA 6600/ATI X1300 or better, excluding ATI X1550"

I don't know if mine is better or worse then whats stated above, will i be able to run this?

[Samon]

ya they do tend to overrate things
still, it's probably a fantastic game

I agree. I'm not knocking the game.

[mastag]

wait how did this thread become a debate about piracy? I thought shasta was banned?

[giant384]

Can someone help me out with the system reqs for this game? According to Wiki i have everything( just barely), the only thing that worries me is my graphics card, i have a 9600proATI and it recommends

"DirectX 9.0c compliant card with 128MB RAM
(NVIDIA 6600/ATI X1300 or better, excluding ATI X1550"

I don't know if mine is better or worse then whats stated above, will i be able to run this?

your card only supports up to 9.0b. only whent he game comes out can you know or not,unless its like the many games that use sm3.0 only.

[BHC]

I wish they would've included some kind of multiplay, the augments / weapons / physics systems would be so cool to mess with online with a few pals.

[Vigilante]

I wish they would've included some kind of multiplay, the augments / weapons / physics systems would be so cool to mess with online with a few pals.

Garry's Mod.

[TheAntipop]

Seriously cannot wait for the demo to be released onto Marketplace.

[i am HOLLYWOOD]

I'm sure this will be halfway awesome at the least. . .

. . .you have played the System Shock games right ppl?


and ya. . . . i usually wait for a few weeks on most games. read lots of reviews than poke around some forums to see what the fuss (or lack thereof) is all about first. . .

[Malfunction]

Bioshock looks pretty -- oh wait, am I even in the right thread?



STFU. Thanks. :cheers:

[Gargantou]

yes I told ya this is gone score over 9.0

finally there is a title to buy, and not to pirate :)Please **** off. There is never any excuse for taking a persons work without their permission, god I'm sick of you f*cking warez-kiddeys(And yes I call you kiddey because I think it's rather naive to feel that any game that gets below 9.0 deserves to be pirated).

[Llama]

I've always thought they were pretty shite myself.

In which case, you've always thought wrong :thumbs:

[Gorgon]

I'm willing to bet you'll pirate it anyway, even if you buy it first. Just out of principal.

you are so ****ing right. :thumbs: :laugh:... piracy is printed in my.....

Please **** off. There is never any excuse for taking a persons work without their permission, god I'm sick of you f*cking warez-kiddeys(And yes I call you kiddey because I think it's rather naive to feel that any game that gets below 9.0 deserves to be pirated).

Sir, please calm down.

any game with ground breaking technology is worth the money. SIMPLE AS THAT. B.S is one of them.

[Gargantou]

Yeah but just because a game doesn't have groundbreaking technology doesn't give you the ****ing right to ****ing copy it without the creators ****ing permission and without giving anything in exchange.

[VictimOfScience]

Seriously cannot wait for the demo to be released onto Marketplace.
Me too. The PC Marketplace (i.e. teh Interwebs)!!

[L3adCannon]

Without piracy I would have a garage full of useless games I would never play and a **** load of wasted money.

I download first and if I like it, then I buy it. I did it with CoD, CoD2, BF2, HL2, STALKER, ArmA and so on. This will be no different and I will continue doing so.

gg.

[CptStern]

Without piracy I would have a garage full of useless games I would never play and a **** load of wasted money.

so developers/publishers/retailers should lose money just so that your garage is clean?

... /me shakes head over state of today's youth


look if you're going to pirate games at least dont attempt to justify it with some lame half assed excuse, own up to the fact that you're stealing somone else's work; take responsibility for your actions ffs

[Gargantou]

Exactly CptStern, by the way L3adCannon, I assume you haven't heard of such things as reviews, user reviews, multiple reviews and DEMOS, I rarely warez games, and when I do it's old games that I can't even find on eBay(i.e. Ultima 4 for example), when it comes to modern games, I always read a few reviews, both professional and by other users, then if there's a demo I play that, and then I make my final decision.
But then again, I'm sorta biased against pirates because I know a few people whom are commercial game devs and work very hard to make good products..

[Samon]

Without piracy I would have a garage full of useless games I would never play and a **** load of wasted money.

That's so retarded it isn't even funny.

[VictimOfScience]

That's so retarded it isn't even funny.
No, no, I feel his pain. Without piracy, I never would have fallen in love with this guy!!

http://www.cs.washington.edu/homes/cmprince/monkey_island/chars/guybrush.gif

:P

[Gargantou]

Monkey Island FOR THE MOTHER****ING WIN.

[L3adCannon]

so developers/publishers/retailers should lose money just so that your garage is clean?

... /me shakes head over state of today's youth


look if you're going to pirate games at least dont attempt to justify it with some lame half assed excuse, own up to the fact that you're stealing somone else's work; take responsibility for your actions ffs
I know I am, and if that work is complete bollocks, I`m glad I didn`t buy it.
The reason I said before wasn`t a justification, it was the reason I download games before I buy em, if I buy em.

Last time I trusted a gamingsite review and some "experts" on gaming, I bought Oblivion. That was a total waste of money. The thing is collecting dust in some corner now.

[Evo]

:E

Read it when on lunch from work, sounds good :D

[AHA-Lambda]

Last time I trusted a gamingsite review and some "experts" on gaming, I bought Oblivion. That was a total waste of money. The thing is collecting dust in some corner now.

Enemies levelling with you FTL :flame: That put me off that game for life

[CptStern]

I know I am, and if that work is complete bollocks, I`m glad I didn`t buy it.
The reason I said before wasn`t a justification, it was the reason I download games before I buy em, if I buy em.

Last time I trusted a gamingsite review and some "experts" on gaming, I bought Oblivion. That was a total waste of money. The thing is collecting dust in some corner now.

you're still deferring blame .."game reviews make me pirate" and "I need to prevent gameboxes from collecting dust in some corner of my house"

you're still not taking responsibility for stealing someone elses work

[Warbie]

I stole Quake 4 and take full responsibility.

Purge me!

(if it makes anyone feel better, it was so poo I broke back into their offices and put it back)

[Javert]

I am a pirate and own Gamestop stock.

I am a hypocrite, SMITE ME Stern!

[CptStern]

I stole Quake 4 and take full responsibility.

Purge me!

(if it makes anyone feel better, it was so poo I broke back into their offices and put it back)

but now you have to make amends for the bigger crime of Breaking and Entering

/me dials the poe-leese

[L3adCannon]

you're still deferring blame .."game reviews make me pirate" and "I need to prevent gameboxes from collecting dust in some corner of my house"

you're still not taking responsibility for stealing someone elses work
How do gamereviews make me pirate? I don`t care about the gameboxes and dust, it`s the freaking money I would spend on half-assed games with a 40 dolla price-tag.
All the games I`ve bought, thanks to downloading them first are bloody awesome. That method has proven to be good for me. Not reviews, not other people, not even demos.
BF2 demo was great. Full game= medicore.
If a developer makes a game good enough, they`ll get the profit.
I know, how am I such a hypocrite that I`m afraid to lose my money but still steal others work. Well, because I just don`t want to lose my money on a pile of crap I won`t use. If downloading games is the way to do so, then shieeeeet.

Good thing I live in a country where the piracy laws are a bit ****ed, and I always get rid of em, just in case someone not invited could give me a visit.

I`m prolly one of the few who actually buy games after downloading them, so I won`t make a difference. Same as me not downloading.
That takes some shit off my chest, for me. Prolly not for you, but I would have to care what others think of me on the internet.

[Warbie]

Damnit!

I wonder how many of us have never pirated a game. It's not something I do often (a handful at most over the years) or condone, but I get the impression that even the most respectful of internet users have pinched something at some point. Music, apps??

[CptStern]

I have in the past pirated a few games and all kinds of music however I wont fumble with excuses like "they should have made a demo" or "game boxes are too big, therefore they justify being pirated because my closet isnt large enough" etc

[Pulse]

I have in the past pirated a few games and all kinds of music however I wont fumble with excuses like "they should have made a demo" or "game boxes are too big, therefore they justify being pirated because my closet isnt large enough" etc
What was your justification for pirating then

[Tick]

I wouldn't have alot of things if I hadn't pirated them before.
most of my anime DVD's I would have never bought,music wise I would have nver boughten A Perfect Circle or a Tool CD if i hadn't downnloaded some songs first.

[CptStern]

What was your justification for pirating then

no justification

[L3adCannon]

I have in the past pirated a few games and all kinds of music however I wont fumble with excuses like "they should have made a demo" or "game boxes are too big, therefore they justify being pirated because my closet isnt large enough" etc
Wow, now that is a prime example of totally losing the point.
You really think I don`t buy games cause I don`t want the boxes? seriously?
Dig in some more, maybe you`ll see the point in my post back there.

[CptStern]

Wow, now that is a prime example of totally losing the point.
You really think I don`t buy games cause I don`t want the boxes? seriously?
Dig in some more, maybe you`ll see the point in my post back there.

man I cant talk to you ..you dont understand basic points unless I'm completely without subtlty, implication or analogies ...why do I waste my time when people dont understand SIMPLE english? what's worse is that you dont even understand what you're saying ... I'm not going to further explain anything as it's all there for you to decipher and misconstrue, have at it

[Tyguy]

I pirate old games sometimes because A. Im not paying for Star Wars games B. Saves a trip to the store C. I feel like the guys from the movie heat when they are in the street in the shootout. D. Makes me happy to stick it to the man sometimes (or broke game companies) I have spent so much money on video games I think im entitled to a coupon :)

As for music, I dont have TOO much illegal music....

[L3adCannon]

man I cant talk to you ..you dont understand basic points unless I'm completely without subtlty, implication or analogies ...why do I waste my time when people dont understand SIMPLE english? what's worse is that you dont even understand what you're saying ... I'm not going to further explain anything as it's all there for you to decipher and misconstrue, have at it
You missed the point there, don`t try to pull the quit card.

[CptStern]

oh for the love of god, I didnt miss anything it was you who missed it from the very beginning ..AND YOU STILL CONTINUE TO DO SO

[Qonfused]

man I cant talk to you ..you dont understand basic points unless I'm completely without subtlty, implication or analogies ...why do I waste my time when people dont understand SIMPLE english? what's worse is that you dont even understand what you're saying ... I'm not going to further explain anything as it's all there for you to decipher and misconstrue, have at it

Where have I seen this conclusion before?

It's not like pirating games and music is a social stigma on the internet. Half of the people in this thread have come right out and said they have. They can justify it any way they want to, but at the heart of it all it's about accessibility. Go to the store and pay $50 for a game, or wait overnight for it to download? As I said before, more companies need to switch over to a system like Steam... or have Steam be the end all of online game purchases. It seems like it's heading in that direction as it is.

[CptStern]

Where have I seen this conclusion before?

not my fault people cant understand basic ideas

[Qonfused]

Well if this is happening a lot (from what I've been seeing lately, it has), maybe you should explain a little more. Remember, you talking to the "youth" of today, as you put it. We don't have the mental capacity to understand subtle hints.

[L3adCannon]

oh for the love of god, I didnt miss anything it was you who missed it from the very beginning ..AND YOU STILL CONTINUE TO DO SO
Ok, enlighten me, what did I miss?
funny as I didn`t arque against anything or disagreed with anyone in the beginning, so I wanna see the point I missed.

[CptStern]

Well if this is happening a lot (from what I've been seeing lately, it has), maybe you should explain a little more. Remember, you talking to the "youth" of today, as you put it. We don't have the mental capacity to understand subtle hints.

why should I dumb myself down? dont understand? dont respond simple as that ..and your snide comment about the youth of today is unjstified ..i have said on more than a few occasions that there's quite a few young people here who are very smart and sharp as a razor ..so dont pigeon hole me as some crusty old guy waving his cane at teens for no apparent reason.

[Qonfused]

I seriously didn't understand a word you just typed.

****, I just responded, too.

[Warbie]

Get back in your comfy chair and drink your soup, Sterny :)

[CptStern]

Ok, enlighten me, what did I miss?
funny as I didn`t arque against anything or disagreed with anyone in the beginning, so I wanna see the point I missed.

forget it, I've already attempted 3 times. I've posted the exact same reasoning more than once yet you still dont seem to understand the point. Will a 4th or 5th explanation lead to understanding? doubtful, so why bother? look if you really want to know ..read what I wrote till some imaginary lightbulb goes off in your head


hint: it has nothing to do with dusty boxes

[L3adCannon]

forget it, I've already attempted 3 times. I've posted the exact same reasoning more than once yet you still dont seem to understand the point. Will a 4th or 5th explanation lead to understanding? doubtful, so why bother? look if you really want to know ..read what I wrote till some imaginary lightbulb goes off in your head


hint: it has nothing to do with dusty boxes
What the only "point" i could find was there is still no justification to piracy?, but that fails as I`ve never tried to justified it.
Nice try, maybe it`ll work with someone else who thinks that a "confident" quiting means being right.

[Pulse]

Stern ruins another thread, awesome.

[CptStern]

What the only "point" i could find was there is still no justification to piracy?, but that fails as I`ve never tried to justified it.
Nice try, maybe it`ll work with someone else who thinks that a "confident" quiting means being right.

please, you couldnt debate your way out of a paper bag ..the very fact that you take everything at face value proves you're less than sharp ..I've already wasted far too much time on you ...and for the love of all that's ****ing holy YOU DID TRY TO JUSTIFY IT ..jebus h christ on a pogo stick you dont even understand what you write much less what i write ...and you expect me to reason with you? :laugh:


but by all means why doesnt everyone jump into this debate? ..Qonfused? pulse? this is your personal business right?

[Qonfused]

Not really. We're kind of waiting back to see if this thread still has a chance after you've ravaged it. It isn't looking good.

[TheAntipop]

So! Bioshock, eh? How 'bout that. Lookin' good. Yeah.

[L3adCannon]

please, you couldnt debate your way out of a paper bag ..the very fact that you take everything at face value proves you're less than sharp ..I've already wasted far too much time on you


but by all means why doesnt everyone jump into this debate? ..Qonfused? pulse? this is your personal business right?
Again, the same shit you tried to do before.
I still want to see the point I "missed". You said you ain`t gonna waste no time on me before, yet, instead of posting this, you could have given me that "point".

Nice try, too bad it failed.
Face value? don`t try to save yourself by trying to make your posts look different or deeper.

I bring the reason I download games, and some has to come and say THERE IS NO JUSTIFICATION, even when I didn`t claim to have one.
Show me where I tried to justify it?

[Pulse]

please, you couldnt debate your way out of a paper bag ..the very fact that you take everything at face value proves you're less than sharp ..I've already wasted far too much time on you ...and for the love of all that's ****ing holy YOU DID TRY TO JUSTIFY IT ..jebus h christ on a pogo stick you dont even understand what you write much less what i write ...and you expect me to reason with you? :laugh:


but by all means why doesnt everyone jump into this debate? ..Qonfused? pulse? this is your personal business right?
Internet is my business.

[Gargantou]

I have a question for you L3adCannon, since you seem so sure of yourself, what is your age? Just wondering.

[Samon]

This is a forum, arguments happen kids. Lets cease with the Stern did this, Stern raped that, Stern touched that bullshit. If the argument gets out of hand it'll be stopped, but so far it's hardly the epic battle of two titans, so we'll let it play out. People are allowed to argue, you know.

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[L3adCannon]

I have a question for you L3adCannon, since you seem so sure of yourself, what is your age? Just wondering.
Let me quess. If I`d be between 10-15, I would be too young to even debate. If I`d be above that, I would be <random bs about maturity, life, business and making money>? amirite or what?
I`m so sure of myself cause I know Stern took this "you missed the point from the beginning" to save his ass.

21

[Pulse]

Samon we use the same firefox skin, I'M AMAZED!

[Qonfused]

So! Bioshock, eh? How 'bout that. Lookin' good. Yeah.

Actually, yeah. I didn't know about this until a friend linked me a couple videos. My video card whimpered.

Samon we use the same firefox skin, I'M AMAZED!

Mm, all Netscapey.

[CptStern]

Not really. We're kind of waiting back to see if this thread still has a chance after you've ravaged it. It isn't looking good.

you made 9 posts in this thread ...one which was just a period another was two words and the rest were about piracy ..so who's ravaging what?

http://www.halflife2.net/forums/search.php?searchid=838195


yet, instead of posting this, you could have given me that "point".

what for? YOU STILL DONT UNDERSTAND

Nice try, too bad it failed.
Face value? don`t try to save yourself by trying to make your posts look different or deeper.


I bring the reason I download games, and some has to come and say THERE IS NO JUSTIFICATION, even when I didn`t claim to have one.
Show me where I tried to justify it?

this is where you make yourself look stupid:

jus?ti?fied, jus?ti?fy?ing, jus?ti?fies

1. To demonstrate or prove to be just, right, or valid

I'm posting the definition because you clearly dont understand what the word means ...you said:

The reason I said before wasn`t a justification, it was the reason I download games before I buy em, if I buy em.

that sentence completely contradicts itself

but on to you trying to justify your stance:

you clearly said:

Without piracy I would have a garage full of useless games I would never play and a **** load of wasted money.

and this:

Last time I trusted a gamingsite review and some "experts" on gaming, I bought Oblivion. That was a total waste of money. The thing is collecting dust in some corner now.


and this:

it`s the freaking money I would spend on half-assed games with a 40 dolla price-tag.


and:

All the games I`ve bought, thanks to downloading them first are bloody awesome. That method has proven to be good for me. Not reviews, not other people, not even demos.


and


I`m afraid to lose my money but still steal others work. Well, because I just don`t want to lose my money on a pile of crap I won`t use. If downloading games is the way to do so, then shieeeeet.


all justifying piracy ..seriously if you cant see that you bigger problems than whether you pirate games or not


anyways I'm done being a target in this thread just because people cant read betweenthe ****ing lines (why am I picturing some of you looking between real lines?)

[Samon]

Actually, yeah. I didn't know about this until a friend linked me a couple videos. My video card whimpered.

That's what the 360 is for.


Samon we use the same firefox skin, I'M AMAZED!

D:

[L3adCannon]

for you, that is justification, for me that is the reason I do so. I know there is no justification or defence, but I still do it, and you brought out with the quotes the reason I do so.
Now, if I would have said something like "...and that`s why piracy is right and should be continued" would have been something to quote.

The fact that i pointed out that I know I`m stealing and that I know I can`t justify it (taking some shit off my chest/peace of mind, sorts) should be enough proof that I don`t justify it. Why don?t you quote those.
gg.

I know we both won`t back away from our statements, but I am willing to continue.

[Fishlore]

I just wandered in here. So, I guess the moral of the story is that Stern is a mid-thirties guy on a forum of younger people, has way over 26,000 posts, calls someone out for pirating games and then laughably admits he's pirated himself. Stern's hipocrisy is none of my business just like if other people pirate games it's none of my business. How does someone with a family and kids find the time for all those posts? NM, don't care, none of my business.

So, about BioShock, what's the release date on that one again? I have to start talking my friend into getting it for the 360 so I can play it.

[Samon]

for you, that is justification, for me that is the reason I do so.

They are the very same.

[Pulse]

I love the wrench.

[CptStern]

for you, that is justification, for me that is the reason I do so.

LOL, IT'S THE SAME THING YA IDIOT ..**** you just cant make this shit up, pure comedic gold ..please tell me english isnt your native language because then you'd have an excuse ...you're not 21 ..if you are ..:laugh: I'm really really sorry ...oh stay in school and pay attention ffs

[Xune]

So I came to this thread expecting Bioshock discussion, silly me. HL2.net strikes again.

[L3adCannon]

They are the very same.
There is thinking of doing something right, although it`s wrong

I know it`s wrong, but I do it anyway for my own, selfish reasons.
Now if someone would have just called me a selfigh prick for doing so, I wouldn`t have even replied cause I know I am one if I pirate games.

Yeh, HL2.net strikes again.

Stern, you know very well that by "justification" you ment me thinking it`s right to do so. Only reason you pulled the last post is because Samon pointed the meaning of the word out. gg?

Yes, english isn`t my native language, but if I would have said that, I would have seemed "weak" or would have been "forgiven", am I right or what?
Possibly someone would have lectured me about the english language.

[Pulse]

LOL, IT'S THE SAME THING YA IDIOT ..**** you just cant make this shit up, pure comedic gold ..please tell me english isnt your native language because then you'd have an excuse ...you're not 21 ..if you are ..:laugh: I'm really really sorry ...oh stay in school and pay attention ffs
Because an argument on a games forum determines someone's level of education... it's as if this place is your whole world.

[Samon]

I know it`s wrong, but I do it anyway for my own, selfish reasons.


Justification, yes.

[VictimOfScience]

I have said it before and I will say it again: The only kind of piracy I don't like is a conspiracy. :E Anyone else want to share their thoughts on the subject and/or other Monkey Island jokes?

I just want to get Bioshock for the atmosphere and play it with the lights off and the headphones or surround sound way up!!! If the gameplay isn't that great, meh. I have my virtual funhouse. (Same goes for Crysis when it hits).

[Gargantou]

I think everyone who pirates more than 2 games in a one year period should get an automatic 6 month labour-sentence and be sent to the Gulags for 'moral re-education'.

[L3adCannon]

Justification, yes.
But not the kind of what he thinks.

Stern was supposed to not reply a few posts ago. Shows he`s unsure about his "victory". Not that you would read it from his posts. Amirite or what?

[Samon]

But not the kind of what he thinks.

It's still a justification though. I'm not interested in the argument, nor am I sure 'what Stern thinks', but you are still justifying your actions one way or another.

[L3adCannon]

It's still a justification though. I'm not interested in the argument, nor am I sure 'what Stern thinks', but you are still justifying your actions one way or another.
But I still don`t think it`s right to do so, even when I do so.

[TheAntipop]

I have said it before and I will say it again: The only kind of piracy I don't like is a conspiracy. :E Anyone else want to share their thoughts on the subject and/or other Monkey Island jokes?

I just want to get Bioshock for the atmosphere and play it with the lights off and the headphones or surround sound way up!!! If the gameplay isn't that great, meh. I have my virtual funhouse. (Same goes for Crysis when it hits).

Personally, I'm looking forward to the first 10 or so minutes the most; just arriving in Rapture and finding bodies strewn everywhere, blood splatters and utter carnage and destruction. As soon as I see the first pile of mutilated bodies thrown about I know that somewhere, close by, something ****ing nasty is lurking, and then the tension is really going to be on. Feth yeah.

[L3adCannon]

Personally, I'm looking forward to the first 10 or so minutes the most; just arriving in Rapture and finding bodies strewn everywhere, blood splatters and utter carnage and destruction. As soon as I see the first pile of mutilated bodies thrown about I know that somewhere, close by, something ****ing nasty is lurking, and then the tension is really going to be on. Feth yeah.
That`s exactly like System Shock 2 was, the beginning is so ****ing creepy. This will prolly be even better.
Btw, I did do a mistake: I didn`t ask if by "justification" he means that I think pirating is right, or I just do it for a selfish reason.
Don`t take this as me accepting being wrong.

[CR0M]

blah

http://fastjack.at/images/uploads/CoolHandLuke.jpg

"What we have here... is failure to communicate."

[Samon]

But I still don`t think it`s right to do so, even when I do so.

You are still justifying your actions by providing a reason, right or wrong.

[L3adCannon]

You are still justifying your actions by providing a reason, right or wrong.
That`s the dictionary, but obviously not what this is about.

Can`t arque anymore, got to go. But don`t worry/cheer yet, I`ll be back tomorrow and I`ll check all the posts, all.

PUYAAA or however they say it.

[Qonfused]

you made 9 posts in this thread ...one which was just a period another was two words and the rest were about piracy ..so who's ravaging what?

Uh, as I said before, you.

who cares about the morality behind the issue, people eat meat every single day and they dont seem to bothered with the ethical problems it brings about ...anyways no the real issue is that warz-erers are shooting themselves in the foot ..sooner or later developers are going to see it as too much of a losing battle and will simply move to an online service like steam or similiar thereby cutting off pirating or at least making it far more difficult

All other notes before that on piracy were tongue-in-cheek. Don't try that ownership switch bullshit on me. You constantly go into threads just trying to stir up shit. Just stay in the political section (or creating "lol amerika" threads in Offtopic) where you belong. Otherwise, you start up unnecessary arguments and debates irrelevant to the topic of the thread. It it was any other person, this thread would be locked already, or the person would have been reprimanded. You have a remarkable skill of turning any and every thread you enter into a debate. This was a decent thread before you decided to troll it. Just **** off.

[Max35]

Heh, this thread is getting mighty interesting.

[Gargantou]

http://fastjack.at/images/uploads/CoolHandLuke.jpg

"What we have here... is failure to communicate."This is hands-down one of the best posts I have ever seen on halflife2.net!:thumbs:

[CptStern]

http://fastjack.at/images/uploads/CoolHandLuke.jpg

"What we have here... is failure to communicate."

awesome :laugh: :thumbs:

[xcellerate]

for you, that is justification, for me that is the reason I do so.

Justi****ingcation:
-it's a ****ing (N)oun
1. a ****ing reason, fact, circumstance, or explanation that justifies or defends
2. to show a ****ing satisfactory reason or excuse for something done
3. show to be reasonable or provide adequate ****ing ground for

[Krynn72]

http://fastjack.at/images/uploads/CoolHandLuke.jpg

"What we have here... is failure to communicate."

:laugh:

[Samon]

All other notes before that on piracy were tongue-in-cheek. Don't try that ownership switch bullshit on me. You constantly go into threads just trying to stir up shit. Just stay in the political section (or creating "lol amerika" threads in Offtopic) where you belong. Otherwise, you start up unnecessary arguments and debates irrelevant to the topic of the thread. It it was any other person, this thread would be locked already, or the person would have been reprimanded. You have a remarkable skill of turning any and every thread you enter into a debate. This was a decent thread before you decided to troll it. Just **** off.

Do not flame. Warned.

[JNightshade]

Do not flame. Warned.

That seems pretty extreme. He does have a point... I mean, Stern does have a knack for turning a thread into a massive free-for-all :/

[Samon]

Telling someone to **** off is against the rules.

If you have a problem Dumb Dude, take it to pm.

[Qonfused]

Yeah, spamming, derailing and trolling is against the rules as well. Don't see much happening in that department.

[Samon]

http://www.halflife2.net/forums/member.php?u=36948

Check your infraction list. I'd say we're right on the money with spam.

Take it to PM.

[Qonfused]

As if my previous counts of spam apply to the current situation (No answer to the trolling and derailing? Pity.). Stern is a natural troll, let's not shift focus. And taking this matter to PMs is a worthless suggestion as it would lead to nowhere. I don't mean to come off as brash to you Samon, I'm just tired of Stern walking into a thread with the intent to derail and successfully does it with no repercussions. I'm done here.

[Samon]

If you're done, we're going back on-topic.

[Qonfused]

So that telekinesis looks fantastically fun.

[AHA-Lambda]

Yeah I want to electrocute people in the water *evil sneer*

[VictimOfScience]

I just hope that there is more interaction than: Set man on fire, watch him run to water, electrocute man in water.

^That^ seems to be all I hear about in interviews and while its very cool, I want more from the environment. I realize that you can hack into turrets and those little flying annoyances and such, but hopefully there is a whole lot of other stuff you can use to turn the city of Rapture into your very own version of The Running Man.

[TheAntipop]

I'm not that fussed about using the mutations to be fair. In fact, I'm going to avoid them as much as I can because I'm really not into superhero/superpowers fantasy stuff/magic (I know it's not that, you know what I mean), so I'm going to stick to weapons like the shotgun and tommy gun as much I can. It makes it all the more atmospheric for me not being a super-mutant and instead just a lone person wandering the ruins with nothing but a machine gun. Maybe on a second play through...

[Qonfused]

Yeah same. I think that's what turned me off from Invisible War. That or it was just a shitty game.

[Warbie]

I'm usually the same, but am quite tempted by the mutations. It'll creepy slowly changing into some ****ed up half human.

[Gargantou]

Mutations would be more fun if you actually get to see your own characters image, which I doubt but one can dream.:)

[Samon]

When is it out?

[xcellerate]

Mutations would be more fun if you actually get to see your own characters image, which I doubt but one can dream.:)

i think your hands/forearms change...

[Gorgon]

yeah both, does anyone know how long is the gameplay ?

[Warbie]

It likely depends on how long you devote to exploring and taking in the surroundings. I plan on taking my time on the first play through - have a look around, get a sense of what happened, where I am, what each place visited was for etc.

[TheAntipop]

The PCGamer scan says it's a long game, and I don't usually see them put thats as a pro, so hopefully this really is something huge. Not just in lenght, but in depth aswell.

[Combine Hybrid]

who wants scans from oxm?

[TheAntipop]

PM sent, Hybrid.

I'm seriously hoping the demo is released sometime this week. Neeeeeeed it.

[Krynn72]

I request that nobody PMs me the scans that I dont want. Please dont do it now.

[Combine Hybrid]

OMFG I didn't come to this thread for one day and someone already sabotaged it...

[Qonfused]

Welcome back.

[Bad^Hat]

I request that nobody PMs me the scans that I dont want. Please dont do it now.
I un-second this non-sentiment.

[Wanted Bob]

Whew, I was concerned reading through the last few pages that there wouldnt be a Bioshock discussion. Glad to see its back on track.

I'm undecided on whether to buy it for PC or 360. Generally I have way better control with PCs, but I'll try both demos.

[staticprimer]

I un-second this non-sentiment.

Un-thirded. There is no way I would never not want to see scans that I don't want to see. Ever.

[Qonfused]

Un-thirded. There is no way I would never not want to see scans that I don't want to see. Ever.

Un-forthed.

[AHA-Lambda]

Un-forthed.

Un-fifthed

[Gray Fox]

PM me the goddammed scans.

[L3adCannon]

I don`t want thy scans, thou shalt not PM me.

[Warbie]

I actually don't want the scans, or to play the demo. Bioshock is out so soon we might as well wait and enjoy all the goodness first hand!

[Gray Fox]

I actually don't want the scans, or to play the demo. Bioshock is out so soon we might as well wait and enjoy all the goodness first hand!

Real gamers ruin the experience for themselves by downloading leaked alpha version, and reading every little article there is on the game.

[Warbie]

Real gamers ruin the experience for themselves by downloading leaked alpha version, and reading every little article there is on the game.

I guess that makes the rest of us nubs :)

If possible I avoid previews or pics/vids that give away too much. A few of the recent Bioshock previews gave away how the game starts. Not being able to help read the first few sentence I was pissed off finding out ...


*slight spoiler ahead*


... that it starts with a plane crash, and quickly looked away fro the rest of the spoilers. Ever since then every piece of media and footage has been avoided like the plague!

[Combine Hybrid]

To those who don't want the scans, you may STFU. I'm only giving scans to those who've asked for them.

[xcellerate]

are we allowed to ask for scans? Is there some rule against it?

If not, then I'm bored at work and could use some reading material...

[Gray Fox]

I guess that makes the rest of us nubs :)

If possible I avoid previews or pics/vids that give away too much. A few of the recent Bioshock previews gave away how the game starts. Not being able to help read the first few sentence I was pissed off finding out ...


*slight spoiler ahead*


... that it starts with a plane crash, and quickly looked away fro the rest of the spoilers. Ever since then every piece of media and footage has been avoided like the plague!

You son of a bitch you ruined it for me now. Why would you do that;(

To those who don't want the scans, you may STFU. I'm only giving scans to those who've asked for them.

PM me the goddammed scans.

[Warbie]

You son of a bitch you ruined it for me now. Why would you do that;(

Misery loves company.

[xcellerate]

i've already read a lot of the articles, they talk about the opening scene, and how you come to be in the places that you come to...they pretty much describe the first 5-10min of the game...it's not that bad, and actually really cool. It sort of reminds of HL 1.

[Combine Hybrid]

It sort of reminds of HL 1.
It reminds me of Barbie's adventure...

[L3adCannon]

It reminds me of Barbie's adventure...
For some reason, it does actually. Just the artwork I guess.

[Warbie]

wtf :eek:

No offense dude, but that does not compute!

[MultiVaC]

I guess if you put a Barbie doll in the microwave for a little bit you might get an enemy from BioShock...

[L3adCannon]

I guess if you put a Barbie doll in the microwave for a little bit you might get an enemy from BioShock...
Yeah, or some firecrackers up its arse. Used to do that, fun as fcuk.

[CR0M]

I don't know what's more worrying... that you owned barbie dolls or that you owned so many you had to execute some of them.

[chu]

I am in limbo with renting (buying maybe) for 360 or buying and attempting to run on my PC. The thought of playing with a gamepad though sickens me. I'd rather drink from a cancer patient's bed pan.

I have an AMD X2 4800, 2gig ram, and a 7900GT 256 and I don't feel I have gotten my money's worth out of it in the game department. I just wish PC gaming would die off already, save me some green.

[Kyorisu]

I have an AMD X2 4800, 2gig ram, and a 7900GT 256 and I don't feel I have gotten my money's worth out of it in the game department. I just wish PC gaming would die off already, save me some green.

Call me crazy but that machine should be fine for something like Bioshock.

[Warbie]

I am in limbo with renting (buying maybe) for 360 or buying and attempting to run on my PC. The thought of playing with a gamepad though sickens me. I'd rather drink from a cancer patient's bed pan.

For a game like Bioshock i'd choose a pad everytime. Somethine like UT3, m&k all the way.

[Gargantou]

Give me demo now.

[AHA-Lambda]

Seconded.

[chu]

Call me crazy but that machine should be fine for something like Bioshock.

You are probably right but I tried to run that Overlord demo and even at lowest settings it ran like shit so that got me worried.

I will just buy Bioshock and see how it runs. If I can't get high setting I will just set it aside. I've never been able to be satisfied with playing a game at medium or low settings for the sake of just being able to play it.

[Gargantou]

chu, there'll be a PC demo for BioShock too most likely, so why not just try it before you buy it?:)

[Kyorisu]

I've never been able to be satisfied with playing a game at medium or low settings for the sake of just being able to play it.

I run a 22inch on a 7900GS there are a few things I cannot run on max quality, hardly bothers me at all.

[AHA-Lambda]

I use an X600 :| I can't get much more recent than F.E.A.R. Good thing Valve don't alter requirements much. :D

[Gargantou]

I think there's a Shader Model 3.0 minimum requirement for BioShock(Same as all other UE3 games afaik), so I don't think the X600 can even run BioShock, no matter the settings etc.

[gowiththefl0w]

I'm not screwing around for any demo of Bioshock. All I need is what I've already seen. The game looks great, and the reviews tell me the same. I'm getting this the day it comes out.

[AHA-Lambda]

I think there's a Shader Model 3.0 minimum requirement for BioShock(Same as all other UE3 games afaik), so I don't think the X600 can even run BioShock, no matter the settings etc.

Don't worry I wasn't planning to run this on my piece of **** comp.

*hugs still working launch 360*

[chu]

chu, there'll be a PC demo for BioShock too most likely, so why not just try it before you buy it?:)

I would love to except I am on dial-up. Unless I can get hard copy somehow I am shit out of luck on that. There use to be a service that fileplanet used where you could have them burn the disc with file and send to you but that ended quickly.

The US sucks absolute balls when it comes to broadband coverage. I can't even get ISDN.

[xcellerate]

so when does the demo come out? If the game is being released in like 3 weeks shouldn't we have heard something by now?

[Combine Hybrid]

close this thread

[Evo]

Question - is the Special Edition only available in the US? Just got the normal version on amazon.co.uk and play.com

[StardogChampion]

I think there's a Shader Model 3.0 minimum requirement for BioShock(Same as all other UE3 games afaik), so I don't think the X600 can even run BioShock, no matter the settings etc.
UE3 games run on SM2 apart from a few 360-made games like Rainbox Six: Vegas.

Unreal Tournament 3 will run on SM2.

Also, why did they let some fud review the game so damn early?

[AHA-Lambda]

Question - is the Special Edition only available in the US? Just got the normal version on amazon.co.uk and play.com

The LE is in the UK as well. It is on Game's website.

[Gargantou]

Question - is the Special Edition only available in the US? Just got the normal version on amazon.co.uk and play.comSpecial Edition is avaible in Sweden atleast, I haf da 360 wun pre-ordured!

[xcellerate]

wikipedia says the demo will be on xbox august 30th...that's almost 10 days after the release? What about for the PC? You're supposed to release the demo before the game, so people can get worked up about it and see if their computer will run it. Not release the demo 10 days after the full game comes out.

[Evo]

The LE is in the UK as well. It is on Game's website.

/checks it out

:D

[Combine Hybrid]

reviews are fake

[Gargantou]

reviews are fakeErm.. What? Please do explain yourself..

[VictimOfScience]

reviews are fake
Reviews in general or these in particular? :|

[Wanted Bob]

I just wish PC gaming would die off already

...

Am I the only one that sees something wrong with this message (maybe I took it out of context, but still)

[chu]

...

Am I the only one that sees something wrong with this message (maybe I took it out of context, but still)

Yes.

[gowiththefl0w]

Supposedly there's going to be some kind of surprise announcement tomorrow from irrational games...wonder what it could be.

countdown to aug. 21

[sea]

I didn't know Shader Model 3.0 was required.

Well shit. Looks like I won't be playing this game.

[chu]

Supposedly there's going to be some kind of surprise announcement tomorrow from irrational games...wonder what it could be.

countdown to aug. 21

Probably a delay till 08.

[Nabobalis]

Probably a delay till 08.

Well it's already gone gold so it is very unlikely.

[comoxer]

PC ZONE uk has reviewed it, gave it a massive 96% (they gave HL2 97%)

Good:
Captivating, well told story.
Movie quality voice acting and script
Emergent combat allows for huge variation of tactics
The Soundtrack, the loctions, the visuals
The many, many plasmids and the brilliant final levels

Bad:
At one point it ends :)

[Evo]

Mwahaha!

Can't wait for this

:E

[TCfromBN]

Edit: nevermind. Taken out of context.

[CR0M]

I'm not really keeping up to date with Bioshock as it's all kinda meh, but I was reading through the system requirements and apparently an internet connection is required to be able to play it.

As when HL2 was released: Why is it necessary to have to go online to play a single player game? :|

[Warbie]

//edit

this is much better than my post :)

http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r195/jpm_photos/bigdad3xo8.jpg

[Nabobalis]

It is only to active the game, once.

[CR0M]

It is only to active the game, once.

Exactly my point. Why?

lol @ cardboard Big Daddy :D

[Warbie]

Great 1up podcast that touches on Bioshock:

http://www.1up.com/do/feature?cId=3149993

The guy basically says this is the first game that's trumped the experience of playing Half Life for the first time.

I want :)

[KagePrototype]

NEED DEMO arghhH

[Gargantou]

I am a c*nt! Really, I'm a total c*nt. C*ntalicious!

[Evo]

D:

Hate!

<3

[Stigmata]

The guy basically says this is the first game that's trumped the experience of playing Half Life for the first time. Jesus ****shit. The 21st can't come soon enough D:

[Evo]

Halfway through the 1UP podcast and no Bioshock yet :O

D:

[Tarkus]

Demo is out on XBL Marketplace! Just kidding.

Really?? I'm not at home so I can't check for myself..

EDIT - oh...silly me... /hates Gargantou for life

[Nabobalis]

Halfway through the 1UP podcast and no Bioshock yet :O

D:

Hits around 40/50 mark and then they keep going back to it until the end really about 20 mins from the end no more Bioshock. However it is a good pod cast so listen to the whole thing.

[KagePrototype]

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/usermovies/94053.html <-- Video Review! 5/5 Some minor set piece spoilers, beware.

I didn't know there'd be ghosts in this like SS2 :O

[Evo]

Hits around 40/50 mark and then they keep going back to it until the end really about 20 mins from the end no more Bioshock. However it is a good pod cast so listen to the whole thing.

Got there at last ;)

Haha!

'Why the **** would they rush through it!'

Can't wait :D

[Wanted Bob]

"One of the best FPS experiences of all time"

Wow, building hype much... I really hope its all true.

[Kyorisu]

I knew this was going to be awesome before the hype.

Ah so saving the girls just gives you less Adam, goodo then.