Episode 2 delayed?

[Hypnosos]

"Are they still doing a 2006 release date for that?"
"No. First quarter of next year."
http://www.pcgamerpodcast.com/
16:15 into the podcast. So... delayed? ;(

Guess it was true.
http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=66973

[Zeus]

Well I'm dissapointed but not surprised. Valve has yet to be correct on a release date and this time was no different. Just makes me wonder when valve is ever gonna stop giving us bullshit release dates and stop delaying their games every single time.

And then on the PC there will be a pack that's just Episode Two, Portal and Team Fortress 2, and we're still working out the pricing for that but it'll probably be somewhere in between Episode One [pricing] and full price.

Well at least we're starting to talk price here

[PimpinPenguin]

Why am i not surprised hopefully they will stick to this one.
If the price is between ep1 and full then that sounds fair

[Samon]

Great. No, really. As much as I want to be playing Episode 2 this Christmas, I'm pleased Valve have pushed it back in that it means greater quality. Seeing those vids, I thought wow, they must be on track...wrong, but still, if the quality can only improve, who am I to argue?

[Atomic_Piggy]

Yeah, VALVe love perfecting their creations, and I don't have a problem with that.

[Asuka]

Great. No, really. As much as I want to be playing Episode 2 this Christmas, I'm pleased Valve have pushed it back in that it means greater quality. Seeing those vids, I thought wow, they must be on track...wrong, but still, if the quality can only improve, who am I to argue?

Agreed, plus they said they targeted end of the year. Just because its not start of next doesn't make much of a difference.

[The Brick]

Damn, that means portal and TF2 too ;(

[liPillON]

Guess it was true.
http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=66973
too bad they didn't ask anything about the so-called "enhanced HL2"

[Saketi]

im happy that VALVE have not released it anytime soon, i dont want no rushed product. And i am soo hoping that EA (the publisher) is not pushing VALVE to quick release its games, like they did in the BF series.

[AHA-Lambda]

:( :( no one believed me in my topic discussing this though!

[kattmat]

Ha ha, knew this would happen. Valve should just shut up until they have a realistic release date instead of hyping us up and then disappoint us. Guess we'll have to wait another 8-10 months for this episode. Great. At least we have lots of new info to discuss...

[Shift]

ah crap was hoping for end of this year, but yup, delaying means better quality and more polishing, so a better overal product ;)

[DevgruSeal]

I'm rather happy about it as well, not only because the reasons stated above, but because, hopefully, Vista and DirectX 10 will be out. And I plan on building a new computer for it, and plan on having a dual core processor, which means I can experience Episode 2 in dual core :)

[kattmat]

Btw, this episode looks mega-fantastic-omfg-awesome and that means it's going to be delayed to late 2007, since this is valve we're talking about. And by then everything is spoiled by videos like these. No more previews for me.

[Bacons]

meh I dont believe it until valve makes it "Offical."


BTW If they where delaying it why would they show all these trailers & Spoilers this early on....

[DEATH eVADER]

Great. No, really. As much as I want to be playing Episode 2 this Christmas, I'm pleased Valve have pushed it back in that it means greater quality. Seeing those vids, I thought wow, they must be on track...wrong, but still, if the quality can only improve, who am I to argue?


I'm just hoping its release won't be too close to Supreme Commander. I'll be playing that alot of the time.

[Epsi]

I do appreciate the Valve way is to iterate on the game, playtesting and playtesting until the game is unbelievably finely honed, and that it's totally unpredictable how long that process is going to take, but they really ought to just not even try and estimate how long it's going to take any more, and certainly not even try to give the public a release date.

I think the rule should be that a Valve release date is not believed until it's preloading on Steam.

[Atomic_Piggy]

I do appreciate the Valve way is to iterate on the game, playtesting and playtesting until the game is unbelievably finely honed, and that it's totally unpredictable how long that process is going to take, but they really ought to just not even try and estimate how long it's going to take any more, and certainly not even try to give the public a release date.

I think the rule should be that a Valve release date is not believed until it's preloading on Steam.

Seconded.

[AJ Rimmer]

Great. No, really. As much as I want to be playing Episode 2 this Christmas, I'm pleased Valve have pushed it back in that it means greater quality. Seeing those vids, I thought wow, they must be on track...wrong, but still, if the quality can only improve, who am I to argue?

You know what? I hate it when you're like this. All reasonable and patient and stuff.

Can't they please, please, pleeeeeeeeeeease not announce a damn date or indeed even a damn quarter before they are absolutely sure! Announce it one month before release or something. I *hate* getting my hopes up and getting them... well not crushed but kicked a little.

[Samon]

I'm very reasonable and patient.

[AJ Rimmer]

I'm very reasonable and patient.

Exactly, that's what I hate about you.

[Rossell]

meh I dont believe it until valve makes it "Offical."


BTW If they where delaying it why would they show all these trailers & Spoilers this early on....

As a sweetener?

[russ_uk]

episodic gaming is pretty bloody pointless if you're only bringing out one a year. Why don't they just release them as expansion packs like normal people?

[Bacons]

You know what....I firmly believe if it is indeed true that EP2 will be delayed, IT ain't that bad & becides We will all have Black Mesa: Source by Christmas time, I guarantee it.


We will all be playing BM:S come late November or some time in December. So we lose one X-mas present, but then we gain one

[DevgruSeal]

episodic gaming is pretty bloody pointless if you're only bringing out one a year. Why don't they just release them as expansion packs like normal people?

Because they're not freaking expansion packs!

Expansion Packs: Optional add-ons to a video game.
Episodes: Continuations of the storyline.

[theotherguy]

D:
This means no new PC games for me this christmas except maybe for Company of Heroes.

Originally it was going to be EP2, Supreme Commander, Spore and STALKER but now nothing.

looks like all I have is the Wii to look forward to then.

[TechnoHippyChic]

It sounds to me like it's the damn consoles that are the reason:

We're working together with EA to extend the initial launch - we're working on the 360 version and the PC version, and we're collaborating with them and some of their studios on the PS3 version - to deliver everything at the same time.

I've never had more disdain for consoles than at this point in time...

[GordonFreeman911]

EA Mother ****ers.

Screw X360 and PS3. Go for the PC at the start.

[Bacons]

I don't know if I am a little late but....The real reason why Valve are delaying it is because They want to release them Combo packs of EP2 + TF2 + Portal all on the PC, PS3, & the Xbox 360....released all at the Same time.


I dont why they want to to aim on releasing it on all platforms all at the same time, after all the PC is their roots for their first game.

[Shift]

D:
This means no new PC games for me this christmas except maybe for Company of Heroes.

Originally it was going to be EP2, Supreme Commander, Spore and STALKER but now nothing.

looks like all I have is the Wii to look forward to then.

Yes, if you like RTS, GET Company of Heroes, PC Gamer have quoted it 'the finest RTS we have ever played', got 94%, highest score for an RTS by PC Gamer. There is also Medevil 2: Total War, Just Cause, Battlefield: 2142 and FEAR: Extraction Point. There are MANY great games that will keep me occupied until the next Half-Life package :cool:

Oh and, I have posted this in another topic, but the lasest issue of PC Gamer says Episode 2 is still being set for a christmas release, although they could put it back again, but as far as they are concerned at the moment, its still being shipped in crimbo!

[Epsi]

If you read the interview it says that the 360 version and the PC version are pretty much neck & neck in terms of how complete they are. What's going to take the most time in this game is the content, levels, models, textures, artwork, game code. All that stuff is the same on all platforms.

The porting between consoles is going to be mostly guys doing engine code. I really doubt that it's the console transfer that's hurting the release date. I think bottom line, the game just isn't going to be done to hit the original release date. It's just the Valve way to not let it out the door until they're completely happy with it.

[bigburpco]

People are overreacting here.

[Shift]

People are overreacting here.

Yup

[Operational]

You know what? I hate it when you're like this. All reasonable and patient and stuff.

Goddam VALVE And Their Goddam F***ing Release Dates. You Know What Stuff 'Em I'm Never Buying Another VALVE Product Again, no matter how awesome Epi2 is - that'll show them. :flame:.:angry:.:flame:.

Happy Now?;)

In actual fact I don't mind that we have to wait an extra 2-3 months, it just means that they will all be even better when they do come out!:cheers:

...We will all have Black Mesa: Source by Christmas time, I guarantee it.
Are you sure? I know they are coming along well but I didn't think they were anywhere near finishing yet. Last I heard they themselves couldn't guess when they would finish.

[wlodi]

Looks like some of you still don't believe that EP2 is officially delayed. I asked Doug and he confirmed that they're aiming for the early Q1 release, probably first months of the year.

Let's face it - we all knew it's gonna be delayed :D

[AJ Rimmer]

Goddam VALVE And Their Goddam F***ing Release Dates. You Know What Stuff 'Em I'm Never Buying Another VALVE Product Again, no matter how awesome Epi2 is - that'll show them. :flame:.:angry:.:flame:.

Happy Now?;)

...a little.

[Samon]

You know what....I firmly believe if it is indeed true that EP2 will be delayed, IT ain't that bad & becides We will all have Black Mesa: Source by Christmas time, I guarantee it.


We will all be playing BM:S come late November or some time in December. So we lose one X-mas present, but then we gain one

Not everyone is OMGLOL about BM:S.

episodic gaming is pretty bloody pointless if you're only bringing out one a year. Why don't they just release them as expansion packs like normal people?

:|

[A True Canadian]

Just to re-iterate what I said in the news thread:

Considering that Portal is just a puzzle game (an experimental test product if you will), and most of the mechanics appear to be completed, I hope that Valve will still release Portal by Christmas of 2006.

They could do a "Pre-Order Half-Life 2: Episode 2 on Steam and play Portal on Christmas Day" thing.

But this would only be possible if Portal is finished by then, and if Valve are confident that they can get the rest of Episode 2 out by February. However, this would also mean taking pre-orders roughly 3 months in advance to the forecasted February release date estimation. They would also probably have to make the pre-orders non-refundable to downloaders of Portal too, just so people don't cancel their Steam orders after they've finished the game. ;)

Still it would be nice if this were to happen so that we can have something before the end of the year.

[The Brick]

Just to re-iterate what I said in the news thread:

Has someone emailed valve to ask about this yet?

[A True Canadian]

Has someone emailed valve to ask about this yet?

I haven't and don't plan to. I'm sure Valve have already thought of this as a possibility, but someone is free to e-mail them about it if they want.

[erozbey]

I haven't and don't plan to. I'm sure Valve have already thought of this as a possibility, but someone is free to e-mail them about it if they want.

+1 :D

[Flyingbig]

Delay doesn't bother me as i have recently replayed HL2 and completed Episode One so diving into Episode 2 now would be a slight overdose. Time to play some other games and then return next year fresh and prepared for some Half-life 2 goodness.

[riomhaire]

People who say the are glad they will be getting EP2 later are lying or Valve fanatics. Nobody in their right mind wants to wait, the entire point of waiting is that you want it now. You're happy that Valve are taking the time to polish it but you do really want it now.

[blck_prod]

I always had the idea that it was sheduled for feb 2007-wasn't it?-...So to me nothing new ;)

MMm...the longer the wait...the greater the desire, but also the greater the expectations :naughty:

[The Esas]

Quarter 1 sounds like an excellent time to me. I'll just have to make sure to have a little cash saved up after the XMAS season. :naughty:

[eber]

uff who would have thout it, wasnt it obvious it was gonna be delayed like all other games...

[Captain M4d]

AHHHHH
I was getting so happy about this, but I guess I'll be able to focus a little more my Senior year without it.

[Baal]

.....wow

Look at the timestamp on the original post you retards :P

It was slated for Q1 2007 since August.

[Nu Zalem]

People who say the are glad they will be getting EP2 later are lying or Valve fanatics. Nobody in their right mind wants to wait, the entire point of waiting is that you want it now. You're happy that Valve are taking the time to polish it but you do really want it now.

Well said, I agree completely. IMO, I don't mind waiting a bit longer too much, gives me more time to finish games I haven't completed already.

[Samon]

People who say the are glad they will be getting EP2 later are lying or Valve fanatics. Nobody in their right mind wants to wait, the entire point of waiting is that you want it now. You're happy that Valve are taking the time to polish it but you do really want it now.

That is one very large portion of bullshit. There are people who have college, or have work, or have alot of stuff going on this Christmas. Some people would not have the time to play it now, and find next year more fitting with their schedule. I'm pretty sure everyone would want it right now to play, but people can't always do that.

[Shift]

Im glad its coming out early next year as I will have the 360 by then and will be able to buy the entire bundle instead of plowing through it with a crap fps on the pc

[Atomic_Piggy]

That is one very large portion of bullshit.

With a dollop of vomit.

[Cuthbert]

Last year, I had 6 months of military service starting in December so I had really hoped EpOne would be delayed. And it was! In fact it was released in the day I returned home :)

And this year, I'm playing World of Warcraft and some part of me is really happy that EpTwo is not coming this December. Yes, Samon is right.( surprise?;) ) I would like to play it now but i wouldn't enjoy it as i will in February.

[Jintor]

Argh, the train is late. Again.

[W4d5Y]

YEAH. AGAIN AND AGAIN. Now it's august, probably.
no matter wether you want to play it now or then, we have democracy. You spend your 'service' (rumsfeld suxx bush suxx die buschs(,) müssen sterben. Olmert auch.), but most people probably hate, that VALVe now has it delayed for a three quarter year so far. And nobody knows why they were aiming towards some 'september'-style date, while it's the 'when-it's-done'-way nowadays.

[Atomic_Piggy]

Just remember that Half-Life 2 did arrive eventually. So will Epi Two, even if it takes 12 years.

[Cuthbert]

Wow, the relief!

[Wanted Bob]

Well, I didn't mind it bumped back till Q1 2007, but too bad about the release date being put back again.

[AJ Rimmer]

That is one very large portion of bullshit. There are people who have college, or have work, or have alot of stuff going on this Christmas. Some people would not have the time to play it now, and find next year more fitting with their schedule. I'm pretty sure everyone would want it right now to play, but people can't always do that.

No, *that* is bullshit.

[Cuthbert]

Well, now i'm gonna say something horrible. I think i'm actually glad about new release date. Burning Crusade is is out in January 16 and it would mess my plans for Ep2. Summer 2007 release date however, works perfectly for me. :) I can understand people who aren't into trouble WoW hating Valve pushing back. I was upset at first too.

[Samon]

No, *that* is bullshit.

No, no it isn't. Quite simple really. I know I have things to do, more important things to do, and next spring would be a suitable time for me to play. Now it has been delayed to summer - fair enough, I'm sure that suits some people to a tea since it'll be their holidays.

I could care less whether it is delayed.

[Atomic_Piggy]

Samon's right. I've got a *lot* of studying and the like to do, and, as was stated, the holidays means I can play it in all its uneducationnol glory, and without intteruptions from school!

[The Brick]

Dude it's only like 5 hours.

[AJ Rimmer]

No, no it isn't. Quite simple really. I know I have things to do, more important things to do, and next spring would be a suitable time for me to play. Now it has been delayed to summer - fair enough, I'm sure that suits some people to a tea since it'll be their holidays.

I could care less whether it is delayed.

Then those people can skip buying the game until they have the time, and those of us who'd like to play it when it was supposed to come out could've bought it then and played it then.

[Atomic_Piggy]

Dude it's only like 5 hours.

but with portal it is likely around 8-10, and TF2 can supply throughout the rest of the holiday. It will allow me to focus more, rather than thinking about what happened when like I was with HL2.
Either way, it wonj't becoming out till then and theres nothing we can do about it really. Besides, there are other things, movies, games, books, h/w, school and all kinds of stuff to keep me busy till then (like Gears of War and Knights of the Nine!;) )

[The Brick]

Wait what? As far as I know, portal is meant to be about 3-4 hours (so like 2 hrs for me :(). You're right about tf2 though, but it doesn't interest everyone.

[W4d5Y]

What? I thought team-fortress was the glory olde days. Why not port it? Anyway, remind me that I keep referring to the officialy announced sequel of tfc as tf:*source* and not anything else. Right? Great, now, if you excuse me, I gonna have a little wanky-spanky while I wait for ep2.

[Atomic_Piggy]

wank

Your certainly not afraid to show the world your habits. :p

[Samon]

Then those people can skip buying the game until they have the time, and those of us who'd like to play it when it was supposed to come out could've bought it then and played it then.

No, because than those people would feel terrible. Best keep it nice and fair!

[AJ Rimmer]

No, because than those people would feel terrible. Best keep it nice and fair!

By making all the other people feel terrible?

[Samon]

Pish Posh.

[99.vikram]

^ You just like saying that :P

[Mahalis]

means I can play it in all its uneducationnol glory, and without intteruptions from school!
See, that's why I wanted it so much to be Q1 07. Perfect way to spend second semester of senior year. :p

[XIII]

i hope some random guy will hak into valve and leak the ep2 like wut they did w/ hl2 :D

[Baratos]

i hope some random guy will hak into valve and leak the ep2 like wut they did w/ hl2 :D

You know what will happen then. All the stolen copies will crash at the point where the random scientist says "Gordon, we cracked the message! It says--"
Best just to hope the game comes out before I die of old age.

[el Chi]

People who say the are glad they will be getting EP2 later are lying or Valve fanatics. Nobody in their right mind wants to wait, the entire point of waiting is that you want it now. You're happy that Valve are taking the time to polish it but you do really want it now.
Personally, I don't mind that it's going to take longer and, if it makes the game better in the end then I think it's better in the long run.
Of course I'd rather it wasn't delayed but if it's beneficial to the game and the experience then it's only a good thing.
Besides, there are more things to life - who cares?

[W4d5Y]

Sigh, I thought anybody might copy my words into his signature. Anyway, I do not study, therefore there's nothing I can say about when it's the time to release ep2, so people will have finished semester/ started vacation, what ever.
Ps: No, I am not afraid to show the world *my* habbits, I am not afraid to show the world everybody's habbits either.

[Hypnosos]

Besides, there are more things to life - who cares?
You do.
Of course I'd rather it wasn't delayed
And alot of other people. Sure, I'd rather wait if that meant I'd get a better game. Which it probably does mean, in this case. But if I could get this great game right now or in Q1 2007, just as great as it'll be when I get it next summer(hopefully), I wouldn't moan about that.

[Ionium]

Sorry! It's been delayed until 2012!

[riomhaire]

Sorry! It's been delayed until 2012!
Was there any point in that post?

[99.vikram]

It scares the bejezus out of me D:

[XIII]

Sorry! It's been delayed until 2012!

zomg your wrong episode 2 has been cancelled..

[Baratos]

zomg your wrong episode 2 has been cancelled..

It never existed in the first place. This forum exists only in your mind.

[99.vikram]

:O Matricks!!!11!1

[Atomic_Piggy]

Nice ava Vikram. :thumbs:

[wlodi]

Sorry, guys, I don't know if it's already been posted. I just read the article on Half-Life2.PL and they said Doug answered them why EP2 was delayed again.

He wrote they're working on new shaders and that EP2 is going to like even better than Crysis. And "you will understand everything when you see the new trailers, trust me".

Whoa.

[pomegranate]

I could care less whether it is delayed.

Um, that's a weird thing to say. Because "I could care less" implies you DO care to some extent, which I don't think it what you meant to say, right?

Come on Samon, leave the moronic Americanisms to the Americans please, it's bad enough when they misuse that phrase, never mind people who are supposed to be able to speak properly

No offence, Americans! ;)

[Samon]

Point taken. :p

[XIII]

Sorry, guys, I don't know if it's already been posted. I just read the article on Half-Life2.PL and they said Doug answered them why EP2 was delayed again.

He wrote they're working on new shaders and that EP2 is going to like even better than Crysis. And "you will understand everything when you see the new trailers, trust me".

Whoa.

that is retarded.. idont want hl2 to be another high end computer only gameee

[Bacons]

ewhhhoo, delays make me h0rny inside. *Feels tingley feeling inside*
I love delays, :D sechy delays.

[Operational]

Sorry, guys, I don't know if it's already been posted. I just read the article on Half-Life2.PL and they said Doug answered them why EP2 was delayed again.

He wrote they're working on new shaders and that EP2 is going to like even better than Crysis. And "you will understand everything when you see the new trailers, trust me".

Whoa.
Linkage?

[Bacons]

Sorry, guys, I don't know if it's already been posted. I just read the article on Half-Life2.PL and they said Doug answered them why EP2 was delayed again.

He wrote they're working on new shaders and that EP2 is going to like even better than Crysis. And "you will understand everything when you see the new trailers, trust me".

Whoa.

YEYS :D

-Kami

[99.vikram]

Nice ava Vikram. :thumbs:
Thanks for noticing!

i was gonna put a tiny EA Sux in the corner, but why overstate the obvious? :P

Regarding the new shaders, Linky plz.

[Cuthbert]

He wrote they're working on new shaders and that EP2 is going to like even better than Crysis.
Whoa.

Better than Crysis? I will never be able to run that. And it sucks to know you're not fully experiencing Half Life. However it's good to know Source being able to kick Cry Engine 2's digital ass. I want those trailers NOW!

[Narvi]

Dude, linkage!

[kag30]

Hopefully they're bringing the gameplay up to date. Run n gun, strafing out to take shots at enemies that stand still in the wide open just feels goofy now after playing games like Graw and Gears of War.

[flycrusher]

So we just have to hope that since next summer they will not have another brilliant idea to apply to EP2 or it will be delayed again untill Christmas. And maybe that before Christmas 2007 there will be once again a complete rebuild of the game to use DirectX 10 and multithreading for the new quad core processors!!!! So we can reasonably hope that the game will be released for the first quarter of 2008.
I guess that valve may have another one year shift like in september 30 2003!

Now that they have a lot of games selled through Steam, and many others are coming, they don't have to bother about selling their own games to get money, so be prepared to relax and wait untill they think that the baby is perfect and ready to go.
For those who are bored and can't wait, play with the SDK, make a mod, build levels, there are so many good tools to spend thousands of hours that you won't even notice that EP2 is released!

[Ionium]

So we just have to hope that since next summer they will not have another brilliant idea to apply to EP2 or it will be delayed again untill Christmas. And maybe that before Christmas 2007 there will be once again a complete rebuild of the game to use DirectX 10 and multithreading for the new quad core processors!!!! So we can reasonably hope that the game will be released for the first quarter of 2008.
I guess that valve may have another one year shift like in september 30 2003!



Yes and if we're lucky we'll get EP2 by the end of 2010!! zomg!

[RioBravoXL]

So, does anybody know when these new trailers highlighting the improved shaders will be released?

[Narvi]

It hasn't even been confirmed yet, RioBravoXL.

[Hypnosos]

Doug tłumaczy, co to znaczy 13:12 15-11-2006
Komentarze(17)
W dniu ogłoszenia przesunięcia premiery Half-Life 2: Episode Two, wysłałem do Valve maila z zapytaniem, co jest główną przyczyną opóźnienia. Nie oczekiwałem żadnej bezpośredniej odpowiedzi, a raczej jakiegoś publicznego oświadczenia - myliłem się jednak! Dosłownie kilka minut temu otrzymałem odpowiedź od Douga Lombardiego, głównego marketingowca "Zaworu".

Doug Lombardi: Pracujemy nad nowymi shaderami. Jeżeli powiedzieliśmy, że gra będzie wyglądała lepiej niż Crysis, to tak będzie, zaufaj mi. Kiedy zobaczysz nowe, przygotowane przez nas zwiastuny, wszystko zrozumiesz.

Z tej krótkiej wypowiedzi można wyciągnąć ciekawe informacje: Po pierwsze, Episode Two będzie wyglądał naprawdę świetnie, a po drugie, już niedługo będziemy mogli zachwycać się nowymi zwiastunami.

Aby dowiedzieć się więcej o Episode Two, zajrzyj na forum!

Źródło: Doug Lombardi
http://half-life2.pl/

There is your link. For translation, look on page 6.

[alehm]

Man Valve please stop releasing teasers, gameplay videos, and plot elements until you have a solid release date on the game. You're great at a lot of things, but you've been doing this since HL1 and it is getting old. I would rather see a post on the internet linking new videos and interviews on HL and then at the end be like "and by the way this game in coming out in X weeks (or months)" and then it actually happen. Hell, even if Valve released videos and was like "Oh, by the way Episode 2 will be available tomorrow" I would be happier.

[Narvi]

Page 6 of what? The forum link attached to the article? I see nothing of the sort there, dude. Can you please provide the translation yourself?

[Hypnosos]

Calling it a translation maybe was pushing it. Anyway, what it basically says is

He wrote they're working on new shaders and that EP2 is going to like even better than Crysis. And "you will understand everything when you see the new trailers, trust me".

I can't translate it myself, since I don't know polish.

[Narvi]

I've already read that. Don't raise my interest like that, dude. Disappointment hurts where my heart is.

(Bloody Poles... speaking their Polian. Why can't they speak English like civilized people do...*grumble*.)

[Hypnosos]

I've already read that. Don't raise my interest like that, dude. Disappointment hurts where my heart is.

(Bloody Poles... speaking their Polian. Why can't they speak English like civilized people do...*grumble*.)
The news on hl2.pl says that he(znaczy) emailed VALVe asking why Episode 2 was delayed - and he wasn't expecting any real answer. But Doug Lombardi emailed back saying something about Crysis... I guess wlodi's explanation does it for that. And the rest is just his own thoughts and spacefillers... I guess.

Yay for polish -> english translators on the internet.

[russ_uk]

better than crisis ? , not from what i have seen

[Orisit]

better than crisis ? , not from what i have seen

They haven't released screens showing these new effects that they claim will make EP2 look better than Crysis. Hence the delay.

Although, in reality, I doubt it will look better than Crysis. But then, Crysis is only technically good; stylistically, I dislike it.

[Narvi]

Look, unless Mr. Newell speaks Polish, the original email must have been in English. What someone should do is email the site admin and ask for a copy of the original email.

[Ionium]

A firm release date would be nice for once...

[99.vikram]

^No.

"When it's done" is less disappointing.

[Cole]

Look, unless Mr. Newell speaks Polish, the original email must have been in English. What someone should do is email the site admin and ask for a copy of the original email.

Or just a thought!! You could email Valve and ask for the information!!!

[Iced_Eagle]

They haven't released screens showing these new effects that they claim will make EP2 look better than Crysis. Hence the delay.

Although, in reality, I doubt it will look better than Crysis. But then, Crysis is only technically good; stylistically, I dislike it.

While Ep2 is really good looking when seen in action in real time, I'm not sure if you could compare it to Crysis yet... Give it some time though and in the long run, Source will be better than Crysis.