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Atomic_Piggy
24-08-2006, 09:07 AM
http://www.1up.com/do/previewPage?cId=3153099&did=1

"The final part of Valve's presentation included a new trailer designed to show the story of Episode 2. In it, the G-Man starts out by standing over Alyx's knocked out body and saying, "You're not supposed to be here -- forget about all this." From there, the various strider and enemy troops could be seen crossing a bridge in unison, followed by a montage of scenes from the game.

According to Valve, the new Episode 2 trailer will be released publicly early next week in a high quality format."

:eek:

Absinthe
24-08-2006, 09:11 AM
I'm very intrigued.

GordonFreeman911
24-08-2006, 09:18 AM
Noo! That's Impossible!
That's pretty awsome though. Thanks.

AJ Rimmer
24-08-2006, 09:39 AM
There's an old soundbite of G-man saying something very similar that was spread around here a few months before release of HL2:O

Midnight Cowboy
24-08-2006, 11:14 AM
The G-man is back! Too awesome.

Samon
24-08-2006, 11:19 AM
Intruiging...

Atomic_Piggy
24-08-2006, 11:42 AM
The G-man is back! Too awesome.

QFT:afro:

Rossell
24-08-2006, 12:26 PM
So, your telling me that Alyx isn't truly Eli's daughter? That she was somehow created by GMan.


To hear those words come out of GMans mouth.


Holy crap.

Atomic_Piggy
24-08-2006, 12:30 PM
So, your telling me that Alyx isn't truly Eli's daughter? That she was somehow created by GMan.


To hear those words come out of GMans mouth.


Holy crap.

Sorry for my rudeness but WTF are you talking about?

Rossell
24-08-2006, 12:31 PM
Just me gabbling. Don't worry :P

Hypnosos
24-08-2006, 12:45 PM
"You're not supposed to be here -- forget about all this."
Isn't he talking to Gordon? If so, what does it have to do with Alyxs fate? I don't really understand how this reveals Alyx fate. Explain to me. :)

Samon
24-08-2006, 12:52 PM
He's basically saying to Gordon that things weren't supposed to happen this way, and that Gordon shouldn't be here because as we all know, he'd be in stasis now if it weren't for the Vorts.

Hypnosos
24-08-2006, 01:02 PM
He's basically saying to Gordon that things weren't supposed to happen this way, and that Gordon shouldn't be here because as we all know, he'd be in stasis now if it weren't for the Vorts.
Alright. Thank you for explaining.

Shift
24-08-2006, 01:02 PM
OMG this story just keeps getting better and better, cannot wait for that teaser!

Shift
24-08-2006, 01:13 PM
Oh and its not Alyx's fate revealed, we wont truely know that until the game itself, spoilers are only there to get you thinking really

Atomic_Piggy
24-08-2006, 04:29 PM
Oh and its not Alyx's fate revealed, we wont truely know that until the game itself, spoilers are only there to get you thinking really


I couldn't think of any other title. :p

Asuka
24-08-2006, 04:33 PM
This is to much. I CANT TAKE IT ANYMOREOMEM!!!

hool10
24-08-2006, 05:17 PM
Something tells me G-Man is finally showing off his "sinister" side. Something tells me Alyx is kidnapped by the G-Man and its the heroes job (you) to rescue her. That would force you to finally meet the G-Man once and for all...

DevgruSeal
24-08-2006, 06:06 PM
That'd be quite awesome really..

If things weren't supposed to happen the way they did, that must mean that the G-Man does want the earth somewhat destroyed by the combine...

Bacons
24-08-2006, 06:08 PM
Something tells me G-Man is finally showing off his "sinister" side. Something tells me Alyx is kidnapped by the G-Man and its the heroes job (you) to rescue her. That would force you to finally meet the G-Man once and for all...


That would be so awesome if that happened, I finally get to kick that old creepy dude's ass.

DevgruSeal
24-08-2006, 06:29 PM
What if it was a boss battle with G-Man, much like with Nihilanth, with him throwing time vortexes and stasis bombs!?

AHA-Lambda
24-08-2006, 06:40 PM
I just heard it is good news about Gman coming back :thumbs:

susko
24-08-2006, 06:44 PM
I am really happy about the fact, that G-man isnt holding all the strings anymore. He is almost as confused as Gordon and Gordon is free! Jupi :p

Atomic_Piggy
24-08-2006, 06:49 PM
I seriosuly hope we don't fight the G-Man ever. Not just not in Epi Two, I mean ever. It would be so uber cliched.

Shift
24-08-2006, 07:32 PM
Yup i dont want to fight the G-Man either, it would be a pretty retarded battle not to mention it is cliched like said, i mean what would they have G-Man do fire magical bolts of power at you and have him hit you with his suitcase when you get in too close to him, no thanks

Absinthe
24-08-2006, 09:12 PM
Lightning bolt! Lightning bolt! Lightning bolt!

alehm
24-08-2006, 09:28 PM
I hope @ the end of Episode 2 Alyx is revived and she makes out with Gordon then he finds out Alyx is really a man and the screen fades to black playing the Crying Game.

FTW!

Atomic_Piggy
24-08-2006, 09:38 PM
I hope @ the end of Episode 2 Alyx is revived and she makes out with Gordon then he finds out Alyx is really a man and the screen fades to black playing the Crying Game.

FTW!

QFT! Oh wait...

susko
24-08-2006, 10:20 PM
I hope @ the end of Episode 2 Alyx is revived and she makes out with Gordon then he finds out Alyx is really a man and the screen fades to black playing the Crying Game.

FTW!

Someone forgot to take his pills this morning!:laugh:

noldevin
25-08-2006, 01:26 AM
Somehow i can't see Gman fighting gordon, HL series "boss fights" are usually huge creatures that need to be defeated tactically, gman is human sized and has a suitcase... no real weapons. Unless of course he is really in disguise and reveals himself as a combine advisor or something else more dangerous. Maybe he will be killed by another character, a vort or breen, who knows. Time will tell. Sooner or later, time will tell...

Absinthe
25-08-2006, 02:16 AM
Gman is too awesome to be given a boss fight.

My guess is you'll never fight him, as he'll always be a shadowy, behind-the-scenes figure. He'll never die. This is all a business matter to him. If things irredeemably turn against him, he'll accept his losses and move onto the next matter he has, completely unrelated to his current failed endeavor.

hool10
25-08-2006, 02:28 AM
Who says that you fight the G-Man? We already know it will come to the point of finally meeting him again but in a bad way. So far the only characters to fight the G-Man are the vorts. So maybe you fight the G-Man with the help of those purple vorts.

el Chi
25-08-2006, 02:44 AM
It figures that the GMan and Alyx knew of one another, but it's interesting that they may have met before. All rather exciting.
That would be so awesome if that happened, I finally get to kick that old creepy dude's ass.
The thing that needs to happen least in the Half-Life series is for Gordon to kill the GMan, be it with his weapons or through some trickery-pokery, it simply should not happen. It would completely subverty and destroy his fantastic persona and intrigue.

Absinthe
25-08-2006, 02:44 AM
Who says that you fight the G-Man?

...People in this thread?

The Hat
25-08-2006, 03:38 AM
There's an old soundbite of G-man saying something very similar that was spread around here a few months before release of HL2:O

Yeah, I remember that... I'm pretty sure the line was; "Cleverly done, Mr. Freeman, but you're not supossed to be here. As a matter a fact- you're not. Get back where you belong and forget about all this. Until we meet... again."

Interesting. :P

GordonFreeman911
25-08-2006, 07:29 AM
Wow, that new trailer really WAS secks.
Spoilers.

































Alyx is either Dead or unconscious. And Mr. G is BACK!

tehsolace
25-08-2006, 07:59 AM
Why do some people think that G-Man and Alyx knew each other after seeing the new trailer?

To me, it just looks as if Alyx got injured and the G-Man took her body and gordon to his stasis so he could try and convince gordon that hes putting Alyx in danger and he should 'end it'. Hes obviously talking to gordon and telling him to stop his fighting.

DEATHMASTER
25-08-2006, 08:13 AM
Cuz they're dumb. She's obviously not conscious, how the hell do people interpret things like this? I don't know.

Atomic_Piggy
25-08-2006, 08:29 AM
Some form of physics. Thats how.

cherry
27-08-2006, 11:17 PM
i can picture the vortigaunts holding him down in gordons reality, stopping him from leaving with their powers and also physically holding him, then you shoot him after he gives you some sort of explanatory speech, or maybe you can choose whether to kill him or let him go.

el Chi
27-08-2006, 11:38 PM
Why do some people think that G-Man and Alyx knew each other after seeing the new trailer?

To me, it just looks as if Alyx got injured and the G-Man took her body and gordon to his stasis so he could try and convince gordon that hes putting Alyx in danger and he should 'end it'. Hes obviously talking to gordon and telling him to stop his fighting.
It makes sense that Alyx should at least be aware of the GMan (and it would seem almost certain he'd know about her) - after all, it seems that the resistence hired Gordon's "services" from the GMan.

I see what you mean about him using Alyx as a bargaining chip with Gordon - "Do as I say and she'll be ok" sort of thing - maybe not to end his fighting, but to direct it at a new target.

I remember hearing that sound file ages ago (even before HL2 was released) and the full thing was:
"Cleverly done, Mr. Freeman. But, you're not supposed to be here. As a matter of fact, you're not. Go back to where you belong and forget about all this. Until we meet again..." (http://files.filefront.com/usgman03wav/;3572329;;/fileinfo.html)
As you say it's obviously directed at Gordon, but in what sense?

Hypnosos
27-08-2006, 11:45 PM
Why do some people think that G-Man and Alyx knew each other after seeing the new trailer?

Not that they're not the most reliable source, but according to the recent PC Gamer podcast Alyx knows Gman and Gman knows Alyx and that they indeed have a connection.

cherry
27-08-2006, 11:50 PM
chi what's your basis for saying the resistance hired him? i know about the 'highest bidder' quote, but what could the resistance offer the gman? i doubt he wants money and they don't seem to have much.

Bacons
27-08-2006, 11:56 PM
As you say it's obviously directed at Gordon, but in what sense?



I think its directed to Gordon, look at the line "Your not supposed to be here, Forget about all this."

Lets split it in half, then the line...."Forget about all this."

When see "All this." I think "Forget about Alyx.".


'Forget all about alyx', How do I know? Well...Gordon & an unconcious alyx is in stasis with the G-man....But when G-man walks in he says "Your not supposed to be here ." but when he says that you dont see his face nor his body...all you see is his shadow. Only until G-man says "Forget about all this." do you see his face & it is that part of the quote that he means "Forget about Alyx."

cherry
28-08-2006, 12:04 AM
or he could be brainwashing alyx, she does help gordon out alot.

Shift
28-08-2006, 12:07 AM
Either way the story seems to be an awsome one, and whatever the relationship between Alyx and G-Man will mean, im sure it will be awsome to see developing.

el Chi
28-08-2006, 01:06 AM
I think its directed to Gordon, look at the line "Your not supposed to be here, Forget about all this."

Lets split it in half, then the line...."Forget about all this."

When see "All this." I think "Forget about Alyx.".
I'm unconvinced. I mean, you can interpret all sorts of things if you break down the sentence like that.

Cherry - I'm certain the resistence hired Freeman, although with what payment I couldn't say.

flycrusher
28-08-2006, 01:49 AM
The Gman never helps, he uses people. He used Black Mesa scientists to start the portal storm, then he observed the reactions and selected Freeman. He sent him to City 17 to start the revolution against the Combine. During this time he observed Alyx and certainly decided to use her too secretly.
The Vorts certainly know him and tried to keep Freeman far from his influence. So he needs a new puppet but this time he will not do it openly.
I think the Gman is a third party race trying to set a race against another to harvest something we still don't have a clue!!
He likes to smell the ashes of destroyed civilisations, so he can build new ones, that will better suit his needs.
You send the plague upon earth, then you come with the cure and everyone will follow you!

Bacons
28-08-2006, 02:42 AM
I'm unconvinced. I mean, you can interpret all sorts of things if you break down the sentence like that.

Cherry - I'm certain the resistence hired Freeman, although with what payment I couldn't say.


Look at it this way....When you hear G-man walk in you see his shadow, But you Don't see Himself & you don't see his face when he says "Your not supposed to be here." Do you? No you dont.


G-man does'nt need Alyx. For a person thats scared shitless when she see's a stalker & shows human feelings...Why would G-man show interest in her if she showed signs of weakness. G-man wants a person that's fearless, a survivalist, a Warrior, a person that can fight against all odds & win...I don't think G-man is interested in Alyx as she does not have "Limitless Potental."


G-man want's a winner, not a weakling. I cannot make myself any more clearer. G-man will not make alyx into one of his clients, as it is farfeched.

bigburpco
28-08-2006, 08:33 AM
That is completely ridiculous.

cherry
28-08-2006, 10:09 AM
ooops, double post. sorry, i thought i did press edit.

- deleted

cherry
28-08-2006, 10:11 AM
I cannot make myself any more clearer.

lol, apparantly not.. grammar anyone?

and that is a very narrow minded assumption, there could be hundreds of reasons why the gman wants to manipulate alyx.

IMO he's probably referring to her being in the stasis world, she's 'not supposed to be there', only gordon is, but the vautigaunts took her there to keep her safe. this also ties in with the new picture of her being carried by one.

Bacons
28-08-2006, 07:48 PM
What makes you think G-man wants to use Alyx as one of his clients? That is just plain stupid.


I don't think VALVe would do something like that.

If G-man would make alyx into one of his clients? what would he do with her? Send her out to hunt down Gordon? bah, that is abit farfeched don't you think?


I ask you, Do you have any concrete evidence to back up your statement? Well, do you?


What? She's now Freemans enemy? this is'nt op4.

She has no qualities...like Dr. Gordon Freeman & I say it....Adrian Shepherd. Does she have what it takes to "Adapt & Survive against all odds?"

He wont use Alyx because she talks too much, she gets scared in the face of danger, & shows human feelings.....We don't know if she is even alive?

Edit: take a look at this, a quote from gabe himself...

At the end of the three episodes the G-Man beings to loses control of you and there are other forces that are starting to come into play, so the player learns the consequences of becoming a more independent agent rather than this tool for the G-Man.

Shift
28-08-2006, 08:30 PM
Well she doesn't get scared in the face of danger as such, I mean she is brave and will be scared but gets on with it anyway, but there are limits to what she can take definately, whereas Gordon and Shepard could and can take almost anything the enemy throws at them constantly. G-Man making Alyx into a client is not only stupid but completely pointless as the G-Man first of all didn't even know of Alyx until she escaped death with the help of the Vorts and even know I really do not see why the G-Man would make her into a client.

The way I see it is that I think the G-Man is trying to find ways to gain control of Gordon again, and I think he will use Alyx to do just that ;)

theroadtonowhere
29-08-2006, 08:54 AM
I think they could make a battle with the g-man be cool, they would just have to do it in the way you fought breen... he was just a man... but he was in his little protective bubble, and through other things at you. The same with the g-man, you could be chasing him, trying to kill him, while he keeps throwing little traps and things at you.

I dont think that the g-man and alyx have to have any relationship... i mean... you see the g-man giving the rocket launcher to that one army dude, and they were talking, but he never seems to mention him or anything. The g-man seems to be able to interact with people and things without them... knowing..

Absinthe
29-08-2006, 09:33 AM
G-Man has the ability to trap you in stasis, casually walk by catastrophic explosions, warp in and out of reality, and disappear at a whim. What makes you think any kind of corporeal chase would take place? I just don't think any sort of "boss" fight would be feasible given his character.

Cubbage most probably does retain memory of the G-Man - I don't hold stock in any "mind altering" silliness. He just... didn't tell you. Much in the same way neither Eli or the Vortigaunts do.

bigburpco
29-08-2006, 09:34 AM
What makes you think G-man wants to use Alyx as one of his clients? That is just plain stupid.

Guess what? NOBODY (other than Cherry, but that was after you first posted) HAS SAID THAT HE THINKS ALYX IS GOING TO BE G-MAN'S CLIENTS. FOR GOD'S SAKE READ THE DAMN THREAD. OF COURSE G-MAN WON'T USE ALYX AS A CLIENT, THAT WAS ALREADY APPARENT IN POINT INSERTION (aka when she first starts talking).

Sigh.

Absinthe
29-08-2006, 09:44 AM
Don't argue with him. You'll catch something infectious.

Shift
29-08-2006, 12:01 PM
Look, YOU WILL NOT FIGHT THE G-MAN!

End.

cherry
29-08-2006, 07:25 PM
Guess what? NOBODY (other than Cherry, but that was after you first posted) HAS SAID THAT HE THINKS ALYX IS GOING TO BE G-MAN'S CLIENTS. FOR GOD'S SAKE READ THE DAMN THREAD. OF COURSE G-MAN WON'T USE ALYX AS A CLIENT, THAT WAS ALREADY APPARENT IN POINT INSERTION (aka when she first starts talking).

Sigh.

uh, where did i f**cking say that? maybe you should read the damn posts you utter moron.

bigburpco
30-08-2006, 08:18 AM
the gman wants to manipulate alyx.

Indirectly.

I'm not here, got a mirror in my place.