Steam - Worlds Largest piece of Poo?

[Wesisapie]

Has anyone tried it out?
I just did, and let me be the first to say, "not good".
Terrible in fact. It takes my bandwidth and uses it on whatever the hell is wants whenever it wants. It doesn't even tell you what, except "updating game". But then it finishes, and it starts updating all over again? It's eaten through about 500 megs so far, and it has no intention of stopping.

Drop your comments here.

[ComradeBadger]

I was thinking of trying it..... but maybe now I won't

[82ross]

It is pretty poo. Very unreliable.

[talleyban]

No. The biggest piece of poo was in my pants after watching the HL2 demo.

[simmo]

BWHAHAHAH!! good one talleyban!!

Originally posted by simmo2k3
BWHAHAHAH!! good one talleyban!!



*cough* idiot *cough*

STEAM is just like gamespy, it's gay and sucks!

I have had rumours that in the future you have to pay a monlty payment in order to use STEAM (and multiplayer)... it's sucks! Steam is just like microsoft...

I just want to download my files with just normal updates... steam sucks cause I use isdn...

[simmo]

Is it alright if I laugh "| - |" ?, have a problem with me having a sense of humor ?, good.:cheese:

[h00dlum]

i hate Steam it sux..why cant just be like it used to be...buy games in store..download mods...why does it have to be so god damn complicated all the time!

[Shockwave]

its awesome...explanation after i get home from work tonight

[MoD]

Hit monitor, it'll show you what its getting.

And it has to get the whole game first.

Steam needs broadband, so ISDN is not good.

I'll download HL2 through steam, to cut on waiting time.

[[Matt]]

Originally posted by MoD
I'll download HL2 through steam, to cut on waiting time.

Shame that i will beat you to a boxed copy by 2 days! :P

[righte0us]

you're gonna download HL2 through steam cause you're too lazy to get the game from stores.
besides, who the hell wants a .htm manual? I mean really. I want the box, the hardcopy manual and the pride of owning HL2 CD.

[PriNcE oF SpAcE]

gotta agree with righteous...don't see the deal in getting it thru steam at all....

[The Mullinator]

I agree with righte0us, even if I had broadband I would still prefer to buy it through the store. I want that CD, I want that physical manual, I want that HL2 box. And if they release a special edition then I doubt you will be able to get it through steam.

[PriNcE oF SpAcE]

yes they will send you action-figures and Alyx' brah(yes I'm positive this will be in the collectors edition) thru steam...

[ComradeBadger]

Yeah me too.... the only thing I would consider dling is TF2 when it comes out, since I believe THIS is THE game that will make people look up and say.... "wow, games do have cultural significance" Valve's is an example none are worthy to follow.... :E

[EVIL]

I hate buying things trough internett.. I want to have it holding in my hands after purchase. I want to F33L dah box. buying from the internet is like buying air ATM IMO

[FatboyTim]

Originally posted by Wesisapie
Has anyone tried it out?
I just did, and let me be the first to say, "not good".
Terrible in fact. It takes my bandwidth and uses it on whatever the hell is wants whenever it wants. It doesn't even tell you what, except "updating game". But then it finishes, and it starts updating all over again? It's eaten through about 500 megs so far, and it has no intention of stopping.

Drop your comments here. You are using the beta. The beta deliberately corrupts the cache to force you to continuallly re-download the content. This is done to test server bandwidth, etc.

The final version won't do this, so you needn't worry about it.

[PriNcE oF SpAcE]

there's still no point to Steam IMO.

I wonder if the time and money spend on developing it, will pay off for Valve in the end. sounds to me like a lot of those people who are actually willing to pay for the games want them+content in their physic forms rather than downloaded...

the only thing that I like just a little bit...is the auto-update...but in theory wouldn't this actually be able to be made just as a standard for games?

[Wesisapie]

Oh my god, so it does that on purpose? What a piece of crap, i'm deleting it right now. I thoguht i might actually be able to PLAY a game that i spend all my time and bandwidth downloading, but now, how sily of me. They could at least tell you "WE ARE SCAMMING YOU INTO DOWNLOADING THIS, DO NOT DOWNLOAD IT"

Blech.

The thing is that STEAM has no reason behind it. Things were working fine for CS and Valve before the whole idea came along. Now it's just gone and pissed me off.

It's like Gamespy (but worsE) + Buddy system (completely useless) + monitor (to see how much data is is needlessly eating through) + Games (to show you a list of games you already knew you had) + some other crap i couldn't be bothered clicking + exit (the most important button there)

[Wesisapie]

And also, the download speed goes up and down like my pants at a brothel.

0, 300, 2, 230, 0, 300, 0, 200 etc.

No way would i ever support this piece of crap.
Especially if i had dial up.

But i look forward to the guy who likes it giving his reasons for liking it.

The impression i got of it was it was designed for newbies who can't figure it out themselves.

[EVIL]

It is still beta i think.

[Wesisapie]

It is.. but it should at least let you play without constantly downloading, and generally being gay and intrusive.

CS only takes 5-10 minutes to LOAD with steam!
It took way more, like 30 seconds the normal way.

[EVIL]

okey.. its crap then :)

[SidewinderX]

Yeah. i love to collect the boxes, as well has the manuel. That's why i hate the move to dvd size cases, no more room for big manuels in the sims and wargames i get :/

[Wesisapie]

One day my dad threw out all my computer game boxes.

I was so sad.

I just liked to look at them and feel like i'd accomplished something.

[righte0us]

Originally posted by Wesisapie
Oh my god, so it does that on purpose? What a piece of crap, i'm deleting it right now. I thoguht i might actually be able to PLAY a game that i spend all my time and bandwidth downloading, but now, how sily of me. They could at least tell you "WE ARE SCAMMING YOU INTO DOWNLOADING THIS, DO NOT DOWNLOAD IT"

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA :E

[EVIL]

Originally posted by Wesisapie
One day my dad threw out all my computer game boxes.

I was so sad.

I just liked to look at them and feel like i'd accomplished something. Same here.. he said it was junk and i couldn stop him. i had a very nice carmageddon box big think that contained carmageddon and carmageddon splatpack. ahhwell.. i was sad for a couple off days because i missed the look off the boxes bu i was quickly over it because my dad managed to not turn my quake 3 Arena and Quake 3 Team Arena boxes into junk

[Munro]

I've got one word for you..


BETA

[ComradeBadger]

Originally posted by SidewinderX143
Yeah. i love to collect the boxes, as well has the manuel. That's why i hate the move to dvd size cases, no more room for big manuels in the sims and wargames i get :/

you can't fit them in cd racks either :(

[The Mullinator]

Originally posted by Wesisapie
Oh my god, so it does that on purpose? What a piece of crap, i'm deleting it right now. I thoguht i might actually be able to PLAY a game that i spend all my time and bandwidth downloading, but now, how sily of me. They could at least tell you "WE ARE SCAMMING YOU INTO DOWNLOADING THIS, DO NOT DOWNLOAD IT"

Blech.

The thing is that STEAM has no reason behind it. Things were working fine for CS and Valve before the whole idea came along. Now it's just gone and pissed me off.

It's like Gamespy (but worsE) + Buddy system (completely useless) + monitor (to see how much data is is needlessly eating through) + Games (to show you a list of games you already knew you had) + some other crap i couldn't be bothered clicking + exit (the most important button there)

OMG its a beta, its purpose is to TEST things, they need to TEST the its abilities with bandwidth so they release the BETA to do it. They are not scamming you, I mean when you download it they probably warn you "this is beta software" so that you will know that it probably WILL NOT be the same as the final version. Don't base your opinions on a beta piece of software, of course its going to do wierd things.

[simmo]

I'm on a 600k connection and it only took me 15 mins to get CS 1.6 :p and 10mins to get the new TFC :p, both took ages to load, laggy, buggy, kept crashing, just wait until it acctually released to the public :)

[FiShEh]

Its really isnt that bad, of corse you've got to realise that its still a beta but the features once bug free will be mint :o.

a msn like messenger in cs woot?

[PriNcE oF SpAcE]

yes how lovely...now I'm in a middle of a shoot out and then I get a pop-up on screen telling me that "D-G-R-8" wants to talk to me...great!

[SpuD]

man, all these people are bitching, If you dont want to be a beta tester dude for 1.6, get off! The first time i opened up steam it was a bitch, I just waited til the next day, opened it, and ive had no prob since.

[FiShEh]

You dont get a pop you screen you get a sound that tells you, you have a message and use Esc to check it when you have chance dont see wots so bad with that do you?

[Wesisapie]

"If you don't wanna test, get off"

I did, i deleted it, and the 600 megs it had downloaded apparently for nothing. It was still downloading crap and i still couldn't play.

I know it's beta, but that guy says they deliberately corrupt your source files, they could at least tell you they're going to do that.

It's kind of sneaky to not tell you.

[The Mullinator]

I know it's beta, but that guy says they deliberately corrupt your source files, they could at least tell you they're going to do that.
I havn't downloaded it (I use dialup so its useless to me) but they probably say somewhere that it will do that. How else would FatboyTim know about it?

[droper]

Good idea but too slow and a lot more overhead where you would think there shouldn't be any. cs runs choppy for me too and i have a pretty modern pc which runs hl and cs without steam at max res 99.

[Shockwave]

bleh dont feel like reading through all the post..

There will be some benifits from getting HL2 through STEAM

#1 Most likley it will be released a few days to maybe even a couple weeks before it is on store shelfs. This would be great for valve to do since this is what the intended software is for.

#2 Buying half life through STEAM will get you first hands on with other games most likley since you have a subscription to there games.

#3 You buy HL2, and within 5 minutes you can play(you download the game as you play)

[LoneDeranger]

Originally posted by Shockwave
bleh dont feel like reading through all the post..

There will be some benifits from getting HL2 through STEAM

#1 Most likley it will be released a few days to maybe even a couple weeks before it is on store shelfs. This would be great for valve to do since this is what the intended software is for.


I hope it's not like that. If it is, I hope they give you some coupon so that you can pick up a real version from the store when it comes out, at a deep discount of course.

[Wesisapie]

I'm really not up for downloading as i play, sounds like a haven for bugs.

[LoneDeranger]

I don't mind downloading. It's just that I wanna own a game, not a subscription.

[Shockwave]

it works fine for Half life 1 via testing it through steam...People without at least a idsn wont be able to do it though.

[Shockwave]

oh ya..i will probably purchase through steam and shelf

In the future you need to take a membership in order to play via STEAM. it's true...

In the futere you need to pay to play onlinegames via STEAM.

I read that in a interview about STEAM beta....

STEAM will take ages to download and load... I just want to download my patches due a browser, not steam...

I bet STEAM is run by some jewish company, they want to make money of it....

[PriNcE oF SpAcE]

sharp edit your post before you start a flame war plz...

[simmo]

Yes, that could offend people on these boards, plz edit it

[GOoch]

sharp edit your post before you start a flame war plz...

Yup thats a bit below the belt m8 sort the post out.

[Farrowlesparrow]

Originally posted by sharp
In the future you need to take a membership in order to play via STEAM. it's true...

In the futere you need to pay to play onlinegames via STEAM.

I read that in a interview about STEAM beta....

STEAM will take ages to download and load... I just want to download my patches due a browser, not steam...

I bet STEAM is run by some jewish company, they want to make money of it....


"Jews are such tight arses!"

*sigh* Just because Jews are good with money people resent them for it. Although they will never admit that, that is the reason.


The flaming is starting. I cant help it.:flame:

[LoneDeranger]

Subtlety: a mark of the efficient troll

Why offended?

Maybe it's true, it's just my opinion. Freedom of speech uh?

What if I say: run by a christian company or Islam company? of athiest company? Should that be offended 2?

I am not gonna edit my posts cause it aint racism or discrimination...

And plz go ontopic...

[PriNcE oF SpAcE]

uhm...it's prejudgemental...

and yeah...I would advise you to edit no matter what name you put in front.

in any case it's unescesary and a recipe for flame war...

ps. you were the one going off topic with that statement.

[Farrowlesparrow]

Originally posted by sharp
Why offended?

Maybe it's true, it's just my opinion. Freedom of speech uh?

What if I say: run by a christian company or Islam company? of athiest company? Should that be offended 2?

I am not gonna edit my posts cause it aint racism or discrimination...

And plz go ontopic...


Im a Christian. Im not offended at your post but i think its supid when people use things like Jew as an insult.
Since this forum doesnt count as a public area, it is in fact Munros own private forum which he is letting us use, it doesnt have the same rules. Freedom of speech only exists as much as he allow it to. he could say that we arent allowed to talk about pigs and we would have to abide by it or be banned.


EDIT: On topic. Things like STEAM have potential and bad mouting them now is pointless. It is in the early stages and im sure in the future it will be a much more effecient way of getting games than CD. I suspect CD burners will be a lot cheaper, CD are already dirt cheap. You could download a game and burn it to CD.

[jellocube27]

I just want the box. I have 2 shelves full of boxes. Of course, now they're mostly gay and small, and the cd's aren't even in ****ing cases. I want cases!

[LoneDeranger]

I just like the whole "game buying expirience". I really hope the include some extra literature ala the administrator letter in the HL1 manual so I can read it during the ride home. :)

[Farrowlesparrow]

Perhaps it will include someof what has happened in between the two games. Although i doubt that because i tihnk htey mentioned something about not knowing what s gone on.

It will likely have some sort of summary of the previous one though.

[righte0us]

hahahahahahahaha

[Farrowlesparrow]

Would you care to tell us what is so funny?

[Pjotr]

Originally posted by Wesisapie
Has anyone tried it out?
I just did, and let me be the first to say, "not good".
Terrible in fact. It takes my bandwidth and uses it on whatever the hell is wants whenever it wants. It doesn't even tell you what, except "updating game". But then it finishes, and it starts updating all over again? It's eaten through about 500 megs so far, and it has no intention of stopping.

Drop your comments here.

This has been discused TOO MANY TIMES! Steam is still in beta before The Big Launch. In the Beta Valve has stated over and over that the games are always downloaded in full, while in the real release it will only download changes to the games . Now stop it and dwell about other things.

[Wesisapie]

I have been on these forums for a while, haven't seen any posts about STEAM...

[BaNDiT]

What im wondering is what if you dl a game from Steam. then what if it gets errased somehow, do you have to buy it again???!!!

[LoneDeranger]

Originally posted by BaNDiT
What im wondering is what if you dl a game from Steam. then what if it gets errased somehow, do you have to buy it again???!!!

No, I think it's like buying a subscription. Then you can dl it as many times as you want.

[Curator]

I've been beta testing steam since the day it was released. Here is what I know to be true. It may have at one point required downloading multiple times for testing bandwidth, however, it does not now. Some poeple have complained about it downloading over 2 gigs worth of mysterious programs when in fact they downloaded all the games that were available, which includes cs, hl, tf, etc. You can choose to only try the games you want, you don't have to download them all.

Yes it is buggy, and yes it needs a lot of work but that is why it is a beta. CS has gone through about 20 updates, all of which fix and create more bugs. You cannot expect a beta program to be anything more.

I personally will still buy games through a more substantial method. But steam will provide a reasonable alternative once it has been finalized, and it most likely will be a bit cheaper.

[mantis]

you are all forgetting a major reason to purchase thru steam and not the stores....

STEAM PURCHASED SOFTWARE WILL BE SIGNIFICANTLY CHEAPER THAN THE RETAIL VERSION!

that is the whole reason for steam in the first place. they want to **** over best buy, walmart, etc. because these companies charge a significant amount of money for the space the software takes up on the shelves. this markup consists of between 30% and 40% of the retail price of the software. i.e. a $50 game at best buy or comp USA only costs about $30 thru steam.

No steam IS NOT a subscription service and valve insists that that is not its purpose. Steam is a content delivery system ONLY. games made by other companies will also be sold via steam as well. If these games use a subsciption model (like evercrack, planetside, etc) it CAN be billed via steam. valve has said they have no plans on switching to a subscription model as this would be VERY detrimental to thier business. Valve is popular because of FREE STUFF like mods.

Also one more interesting point...

steam authentication is the replacement for WON (the world opponent network) therefore it is more than VERY likely that
HL2 will ship with steam integrated into it.
future versions of valve anti-cheat are dependant on steam as well.

FYI

[Wesisapie]

And are you allowed to burn your programs to CD to back them up, and will that work properly? I don't want stuff lost then having to download it all over again cause of HDD crash/operator error.

If you can burn it to be just like the original, and then the program doesn't require steam to run, and steam is free (you just pay for the games) then that is the only way i will pay.

[HiroProtaganist]

i would doubt that you can burn it to CDafter downloading. that would render the whole Safedisk Anti-Piriting obsolete. Unless of course microsoft gets it wet dream known as TCPA

http://www.notcpa.org/ (http://)

DL'ing a game is too similar to Dl'ing music. you don't get the badass album art, the lyric sheets. i dunno must be generational thing.

Download as you play. So what happens when the game crashes? you have to redownload and since the first HL was buggy as hell and the second HL is using brand new technology it seems to me a safe bet that the first release will be buggy as hell.