am I better off buying a PSP or a Nintendo DS?

[secret friend]

PSP looks more pleasing to my eye, but I've heard the DS is actually better than the PSP. I have my doubts about that. I am also not sure if playing games with the stylus is fun or annoying... For example, how would I hold the stylus in one hand and press buttons at the same time? With my other hand? I think not.

[Dalamari]

You're better off buying a gun and a bullet, then putting the gun in your mouth and pulling the trigger

[Solaris]

PSP looks more pleasing to my eye, but I've heard the DS is actually better than the PSP. I have my doubts about that. I am also not sure if playing games with the stylus is fun or annoying... For example, how would I hold the stylus in one hand and press buttons at the same time? With my other hand? I think not.
You think they would have made such a thing if it was flawed at such a basic level?

[ricera10]

The DS is better according to the majority of HL2.net, and I own one and have borrowed a PSP from a friend. The general consensus of the PSP is that if you like to have a system that you will use at home most of time and don't have a PS2/MP3 player, then the PSP is right for you. If you're constantly on the move, like innovative/different games, and value a long battery life, then the DS is better. Also, Nintendo refreshed the DS, the DS lite is smaller, has better battery life than the DS, and has much brighter screens for the same price.

Also, you kind of have to get used to using the stylus in one hand and the buttons in the other, it takes getting used to, but then it feels natural. Plus, most games usually allow you to exclusively use either the buttons or stylus.

[Vegeta897]

Depends on your tastes. The DS is cheaper and is more "fun", and the WiFi is really great, especially when Nintendo is adds some more features, which is what they say they are going to do.

The PSP is more for if you want to play more serious games, and have better graphics. You can put stuff like pictures and music on it, but personally I see no real use for that.

[Combine Hybrid]

How much is DS lite going to be?

[DreadLord]

PSP all the way. The DS has the same old Nintendo games, most of which are for children. The PSP has far better graphics, much better games, movie/music capabilities, tons of online games, etc..

If you like good graphics: PSP
If you like good games: PSP
If you like movies and music: PSP
If you like online gaming: PSP
If you are under the age of 12: DS
If you like using a stylus like a palm pilot: DS
If you like asian games featuring pets: DS
If you like terrible graphics: DS

[Combine Hybrid]

PSP all the way. The DS has the same old Nintendo games, most of which are for children. The PSP has far better graphics, much better games, movie/music capabilities, tons of online games, etc..

If you like good graphics: PSP
If you like good games: PSP
If you like movies and music: PSP
If you like online gaming: PSP
If you are under the age of 12: DS
If you like using a stylus like a palm pilot: DS
If you like asian games featuring pets: DS
If you like terrible graphics: DS
Anyone who takes his comment serisously is a dumbass...

[Jangle]

Definitely DS. It's just so much more fun to use, and there are some really interesting games. PSP's nothing special.

[Gray Fox]

Right now the DS by far. Simply because of the battery life.
It has also gotten some great games, and it's support is very much growing.
The stylus is not nessesairy a better way to play games, but it's a fresh new way that works well enough and is quite fun. If I were you I would wait for zelda the phantom hourglass to come out and buy a DS bundled with that game. Plus you can use the stylus to draw and write small WiFi messages if I am correct, it's also getting a browser. And it's succes garanties good 3d party support.

Now if you are like me and you really like the kind of games that came out for the ps2 then you might want to wait a year or so to see if sony will some with a better battery for the PSP. By that time the ps2 wouldn't get any support so the PSP would get more original games. Plus the PSP has a SNES emulator and in the future it might get stable and you could play a lot of games. The fact that you can use it as a media player just makes it better. Plus it's power allowes for GT4 like games on a handheld with all it's complesities, and FFX like games. Now I cannot say it's really better then the DS, but people here really underrate it, it would be a great device with much potential if it were not for the battery.

[Ren.182]

If you like good graphics: PC
If you like good games: PC/DS
If you like movies and music: PC
If you like online gaming: PC
If you are under the age of 12: DS
If you like using a stylus like a palm pilot: DS
If you like asian games featuring pets: DS
If you like terrible graphics: Atari
Fixed.

I think the DS is much better. I fine the games to be much more fun to play and they aren't just "kiddy" they're fun.
Sure, some are remakes or continuations of old games... but so are games on the PSP. GTA: LCS, MGS, NFS etc etc... Can i get a "Riiiidge Raaaacer" in here please :P
The DS has a better battery life AND soon it will be able to play movies/mp3's/pictures with a third party add-on and the DS is soon going to get an official Opera web browser iirc.
And the stylus is very easy to use and if you're using the stylus you dont need to use the buttons (apart from the D-pad) in most cases.

[Warbie]

DS :)

Better and more varied games - which also happen to be more suited to handheld gaming.
Better multiplayer both on and offline.
It feels new, innovative, while also catering for the old Nintendo games we all know and love.

[Reginald]

PSP if you are the sort of person who has to buy each new iPod generation.

DS if you are cool and want to be down wiv da kids. And also if you want a new gaming expirience, games that you can't play anywhere else, and possibly the most accesible console online service ever.

[DreadLord]

So far the only good point brought up about the DS is the battery life.. My PSP gets 8+ hours on a full battery, so I don't even know what you goons are talking about.

You can't just keep using the same "battery life" argument over and over again.

Let's rephrase;

Graphics: PSP
Games: Your preference
Online: PSP (Much easier server browsers, hardware updates, WiFi support, Ad Hoc, Infrastructure modes etc..)
Other Multiplayer: Up to you, both are well done.
Built in browsing: PSP or DS with "3rd party add-ons soon to be released"
Movies, Music, Other functionality: PSP or DS with "3rd party add-ons soon to be released"
Battery Life: DS (Barely)

And Ren.182, what a champ making all the PSP categories PC. After all, he was asking if he should buy a PC or DS, you tard.

[Reginald]

Firstly, I prefer the DS graphics. Just like I always preferred the constantly styled SNES games over the occasionally crappy grey-textured N64 games. It's not about how many million teraplopogons it can do in a second, it's about style. Especially on quick-play games.

And as for battery life, I get 15 hours out of my DS and you say that barely beats your 8 for PSP?

I don't want to get into arguments, but you are taking a very close minded view.

[DreadLord]

Firstly, I prefer the DS graphics. Just like I always preferred the constantly styled SNES games over the occasionally crappy grey-textured N64 games. It's not about how many million teraplopogons it can do in a second, it's about style. Especially on quick-play games.

You prefering crappier graphics doesn't change the fact that the PSP has far superior graphics.

And as for battery life, I get 15 hours out of my DS and you say that barely beats your 8 for PSP?

Absolutely. When was the last time you played a handheld for 9 hours straight? The argument would make sense if the PSP's battery life was 2 hours and possibly interfered with playing it, but it lasts far longer than you would ever play it for, and it recharges in 20 minutes tops.

Complain about MP3 players battery life, not a handheld gaming system.

[Ren.182]

And Ren.182, what a champ making all the PSP categories PC. After all, he was asking if he should buy a PC or DS, you tard.

Yeah, well, the PSP may have "good graphics" but what's graphics if the gameplay sucks? Again, it all comes down to peoples opinions and preferences.
And i don't see the point in playing movies on a PSP, or music. When most people have an MP3 player. I'd hate to watch a movie on such a small screen.

[DreadLord]

Yeah, well, the PSP may have "good graphics" but what's graphics if the gameplay sucks? Again, it all comes down to peoples opinions and preferences.

HENCE THE CATEGORIES. Way to be a hypocrite.

[Gray Fox]

Yeah, well, the PSP may have "good graphics" but what's graphics if the gameplay sucks? Again, it all comes down to peoples opinions and preferences.
And i don't see the point in playing movies on a PSP, or music. When most people have an MP3 player. I'd hate to watch a movie on such a small screen.
Well why not, it's cool to be able to use it for multiple purposes, instead of having to buy a whole new mp3 player you simply buy a memory stick, it takes much less space, and is cheaper. Same go's for movies, I can download episodes of Invader Zim and put them on a psp to watch during math. The PSP also has an anolog stick that works pretty well, and it's power and good graphics certainly aid in making a more enjoyable world and experience.

[Dumb Dude]

PSP all the way. The DS has the same old Nintendo games, most of which are for children. The PSP has far better graphics, much better games, movie/music capabilities, tons of online games, etc..

If you like good graphics: PSP
If you like good games: PSP
If you like movies and music: PSP
If you like online gaming: PSP
If you are under the age of 12: DS
If you like using a stylus like a palm pilot: DS
If you like asian games featuring pets: DS
If you like terrible graphics: DS
Hahahaha, so true. That said, I might be getting a DS just for Sonic Rush and maybe that new Mario game.

[Gray Fox]

Oh 'c mon, dreadlords comments were just insulting. The DS has if you look at gamerankings more games and with average higher scores.
http://www.gamerankings.com/itemrankings/simpleratings.asp
http://www.gamerankings.com/itemrankings/simpleratings.asp

It's graphics are fine, it's online capabilities are just as good as PSP's if not better, I don't know about that for sure to be honest.
The stylus allowes for more uique and fresh games and you can write with it, it has asian games featuring pets.

Edit: lol the nintendo forum is more fair to the PSP then this one:
http://forums.nintendo.com/nintendo/board/message?board.id=Nowplaying&message.id=107445

[DreadLord]

The first link makes some great points:

PSP:

1. Looks great.
2. Appeals more to public.
3. Large screen.
4. Made like the PS2.
5. Movies.
6. Graphics look like PS2.
7. Plays MP3 music.
8. All good Sony games.
9. Online play.
10. Game sharing.
11. Web Browser.
12. Digital Photo viewer.
13. Non-cartoon games. They are very realistic.
14. Emulators. Can play all old games such as NES, SNES, N64, SEGA GENSIS.
15. An “all-in-one” device. Can replace portable DVD player, MP3 Player, Laptop (to surf web.). It makes it convenient.

PSP.

[JNightshade]

Oh man, absolutely DS. The PSP LOOKS cooler, and does have better graphics, but there are barely any good games, the battery life is absolute shit, it's nowhere near as durable, and as far as I can tell, the multiplayer capabilities aren't as good. So if you want a portable system to show off, get the PSP. If you want something with great games, great battery life, great durability, and TONS of people playing it, get a DS.

[Dumb Dude]

Just as the Wii, I'm far more interested in normal games rather than degraded gameplay with a tacked on "after gimmick".

EDIT: The battery is perfectly fine in my eyes. You see, since I actually own a PSP, I would know that. There are times were I leave it on sleep for more than a week and the battery still has 50% life. I would play GTA for about 3 hours and it still had a lot left (and thats saying a lot since GTA is constantly loading). The multiplayer is kind of lacking for single game ad-hoc (takes reaaaaally long to send game data) but if you manage to find a friend with the same game as you, the multiplayer is perfect. And on a better note, the PSP has online play, and not stupid online play like Mario Kart (which I've played), you actually get to chat to the people with either an onscreen keyboard or the voice headset (Socom) both of which are non-existant on Mario Kart.

Not to mention games like Wipeout Pure offer free downloadable tracks, vehicles, skins, etc..

[esplin]

Mortal Kombat!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Ds :)

[Cole]

It all matters your tastes.
I prefer the DS.

The PSP.....yeah I don't need to watch movies at school or on the bus or anything...I have people who I can talk to and have an intresting conversation with. Music? Well If I want to listen to music my H10 works perfect and is much smaller and easier to carry around. Games? idk whats to appealing on the PSP. Plus Games are similar to movies and I gave my reason for movies.

Personally I think the DS has more relaxing games that are just mindless fun. Like the Mario 64 port, the game is simple. It's very relaxing and you can take your mind off of anything with it. I mean I prefer mindless humor over humor that you have to think about. Games are a similar way.

Also with the Stylus. Thats more for just writing. You can use anything for the touch screen.

So in my opinion, if you like relaxing games take the DS. Actually get neither. Why do you need a damn portable? I don't see to much use for em. Get a Cell Phone, call some people, have a fire, and get some beer. A night well spent. Just no licker after beer......1st hand experince after I've been told...a few times...

[secret friend]

with the PSP you can download games. with the DS you have to buy them ha ha

[MultiVaC]

But the PSP has Riiiiiidge Racer!

[sinkoman]

Anyone who takes his comment serisously is a dumbass...

I know man, SERISOUSLY DREADLORD! Be more serisous!

Anyone who actually listens to some oaf broadcasting his oppinions like a vote is a dumbass.

[DreadLord]

but there are barely any good games,
Games? idk whats to appealing on the PSP.
Umm some famous series on PSP:
Metal Gear
Ridge Racer
Grand Theft Auto
Syphon Filter
Tony Hawk (Sucks.. But still quite popular with some)
Twisted Metal
SOCOM
Need For Speed
Street Fighter
Madden NFL
The Sims
ATV Offroad Fury
Dynasty Warriors
Splinter Cell
Burnout

Not to mention a few hundred other individual titles, and tons of other well known games. But yeah, nothing good on PSP.

the battery life is absolute shit, it's nowhere near as durable, and as far as I can tell, the multiplayer capabilities aren't as good.
No, the battery life is just fine. And the multiplayer capabilities go hands down to PSP. Ad Hoc, Infrastructure, WiFi, etc.. Go read up on a few PSP reviews, the online play is dominated by PSP.

TONS of people playing it, get a DS.
I've yet to run into anyone playing a PSP or a DS. So I can't comment on that. I know a bunch of people online who play against me in Twisted Metal and such.

Personally I think the DS has more relaxing games that are just mindless fun. Like the Mario 64 port, the game is simple. It's very relaxing and you can take your mind off of anything with it. I mean I prefer mindless humor over humor that you have to think about. Games are a similar way
The PSP can play all Nintendo, SNES, N64, and Genesis games, so that doesn't really help.

So in my opinion, if you like relaxing games take the DS. Actually get neither. Why do you need a damn portable? I don't see to much use for em. Get a Cell Phone, call some people, have a fire, and get some beer. A night well spent. Just no licker after beer......1st hand experince after I've been told...a few times...
QFT

I know man, SERISOUSLY DREADLORD! Be more serisous!

Anyone who actually listens to some oaf broadcasting his oppinions like a vote is a dumbass.
It was one (sarcastic) post. I've posted tons of actual replies, and all everyone keeps saying is "My DS has better battery life. I can travel to China and back on foot while playing Mario and it still has 223999% battery power. One time our car died on the highway, and we started it back up on just my DS, and drove 2000 miles home with our highbeams on and blasting the radio. NASA has started using DSes in place of their fuel, one DS can power 6 flights to the moon and back"

[willho]

The DS sucks. I don't even need to back myself up.

[secret friend]

I think I'll go with a PSP and free games.

[Reginald]

"My DS has better battery life. I can travel to China and back on foot while playing Mario and it still has 223999% battery power. One time our car died on the highway, and we started it back up on just my DS, and drove 2000 miles home with our highbeams on and blasting the radio. NASA has started using DSes in place of their fuel, one DS can power 6 flights to the moon and back"

I think that's probably reason enough for anyone to get it :O

[ChiChi]

The DS has New Super Mario Bros. Therefore, the DS is better.

[Samon]

I'm happy with my PSP. <3

[Mechagodzilla]

You're better off buying a gun and a bullet, then putting the gun in your mouth and pulling the trigger

QFT.

[bam23]

Nintendogs.

[MultiVaC]

Nintendogs.

:x

[DreadLord]

Nintendogs.

Biggest reason not to get a DS.

So it's settled then. PSP.

[Warbie]

My brother thought the same. 4 months later his PSP was sold (after the dust had been scraped off) and he joined the collective with a shiny new DS :borg:

[DreadLord]

My brother thought the same. 4 months later his PSP was sold (after the dust had been scraped off) and he joined the collective with a shiny new DS :borg:

Tell him he's a retard.

Signed,
The World.

[Asus]

My brother thought the same. 4 months later his PSP was sold (after the dust had been scraped off) and he joined the collective with a shiny new DS :borg:
I've heard a lot of other people sell their PSP for a DS too. Maybe the PSP is a little over ambitious with it's big screen (battery killer?) and the UMD movies (proprietary)?

I have also heard the times when people seem to play their PSP the most they could be playing their full game console instead (at home or near a wall outlet). Maybe it's the kind of games they have for the system? Or is the DS for more on the go? dunno

[Warbie]

I've heard a lot of other people sell their PSP for a DS too. Maybe the PSP is a little over ambitious with it's big screen (battery killer?) and the UMD movies (proprietary)?

Yeh, loads of people seem to be selling their PSP, and have been since it's launch. I personally know 3 (which is everyone I know who has bought one), and gaming forums are filled with accounts of others.

I don't think it's the short battery life, or the failure of UMD, but more the lack of original games. Wipeout, Ridge Racer, GTA etc are hardly an exciting prospect when you've already played them umpteen times on various consoles and on a bigger and better screen. Load times are also a problem.

Tell him he's a retard.

Signed,
The World.

How old are you? :/

[willho]

I don't think it's the short battery life, or the failure of UMD, but more the lack of original games. Wipeout, Ridge Racer, GTA etc are hardly an exciting prospect when you've already played them umpteen times on various consoles and on a bigger and better screen. Load times are also a problem.Yeah, and playing the same Mario game 35,957 times over is also very fun.

[VictimOfScience]

I just got a DS Lite and it is incredible. The New Super Mario Bros. looks and plays like the best I have ever played and there are a ton of great games coming out for it by the end of the year. Not to mention how great browsing the web from anywhere will be with Opera once it gets a DS-specific version later this year. There's a lot to be said for the DS.

I have heard that the PSP will be getting GPS and official PS1 emulation coming soon which kicks much ass, but for that price? I dunno. Its up to personal preference and your budget.

[DreadLord]

I just got a DS Lite and it is incredible. The New Super Mario Bros. looks and plays like the best I have ever played and there are a ton of great games coming out for it by the end of the year. Not to mention how great browsing the web from anywhere will be with Opera once it gets a DS-specific version later this year. There's a lot to be said for the DS.

I have heard that the PSP will be getting GPS and official PS1 emulation coming soon which kicks much ass, but for that price? I dunno. Its up to personal preference and your budget.

It already has PS1 emulation, and a built in browser.

[Captain M4d]

PSP all the way. The DS has the same old Nintendo games, most of which are for children. The PSP has far better graphics, much better games, movie/music capabilities, tons of online games, etc..

If you like good graphics: PSP
If you like good games: PSP
If you like movies and music: PSP
If you like online gaming: PSP
If you are under the age of 12: DS
If you like using a stylus like a palm pilot: DS
If you like asian games featuring pets: DS
If you like terrible graphics: DS
The notion that most Nintendo games are for children is childish.

[DreadLord]

The notion that most Nintendo games are for children is childish.

No, it's not.

[willho]

The notion that most Nintendo games are for children is childish.
So are you telling me that that stupid game with the animals and the farm was for teenagers/adults?

[Captain M4d]

So are you telling me that that stupid game with the animals and the farm was for teenagers/adults?
Perhaps it's not made for you. Why can't you be open to the fact that other people of different ages might want to play? Seriously, if you need to fortify yourself as a mature adult by obliterating all "children" games on the market and play all the mature, adult games on the market, you're not that mature. There are those like you who are 8 years old and keep the same attitude.

[Asus]

So are you telling me that that stupid game with the animals and the farm was for teenagers/adults?Nintendogs seems like it was more aimed at 'casual' gamers rather than an age group like Kids and Teens.

[willho]

Perhaps it's not made for you. Why can't you be open to the fact that other people of different ages might want to play? Seriously, if you need to fortify yourself as a mature adult by obliterating all "children" games on the market and play all the mature, adult games on the market, you're not that mature. There are those like you who are 8 years old and keep the same attitude.
I'm as mature as they come.

No pun intended.

And you can't argue that the afformentioned animal game didn't suck.

[Stigmata]

So are you telling me that that stupid game with the animals and the farm was for teenagers/adults?So are you telling me that you're so afraid of being emasculated that you can't bring yourself to play a game with animals in it? As scary as this concept may seem, it is in fact possible to enjoy games that aren't chock full of presidents in wheelchairs with Down's Syndrome getting shot in the face with shotguns by evil Axis Ninjas of death.

[Captain M4d]

I'm as mature as they come.

No pun intended.

And you can't argue that the afformentioned animal game didn't suck.
Quite obviously if you're claiming to be infallible, you're not as mature as you contend to be.

[DreadLord]

Quite obviously if you're claiming to be infallible, you're not as mature as you contend to be.

He never even came close to claiming that he is infallible. Shh.

[Captain M4d]

He never even came close to claiming that he is infallible. Shh.
"And you can't argue that the afformentioned animal game didn't suck."
I can't argue that the game didn't suck. Hmm, it seems that I must consequently fall into the great dogma of willho, so the animal game most positively and absolutely sucks; it cannot be argued otherwise. This might top Christianity!

[willho]

it is in fact possible to enjoy games that aren't chock full of presidents in wheelchairs with Down's Syndrome getting shot in the face with shotguns by evil Axis Ninjas of death.
No, that's where you're wrong. Feeding a donkey is not fun.

P.S. I can't take you seriously when you have such a stupid avatar.

[DreadLord]

"And you can't argue that the afformentioned animal game didn't suck."
I can't argue that the game didn't suck. Hmm, it seems that I must consequently fall into the great dogma of willho, so the animal game most positively and absolutely sucks; it cannot be argued otherwise. This might top Christianity!

You're not funny at all. :|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|

[willho]

"And you can't argue that the afformentioned animal game didn't suck."
I can't argue that the game didn't suck. Hmm, it seems that I must consequently fall into the great dogma of willho, so the animal game most positively and absolutely sucks; it cannot be argued otherwise. This might top Christianity!
It will.




ho

[Captain M4d]

No, that's where you're wrong. Feeding a donkey is not fun.

P.S. I can't take you seriously when you have such a stupid avatar.
I'm sorry it succeeds your mental capacity. It must be a pity to come in here, expecting a good, serious argument and then be completely thrown off by a little, stupid biohazard symbol.

[DreadLord]

I'm sorry it succeeds your mental capacity. It must be a pity to come in here, expecting a good, serious argument and then be completely thrown off by a little, stupid biohazard symbol.

Your mental capacity can't be all that high either. Read that first sentence again, champ.

[willho]

I'm sorry it succeeds your mental capacity. It must be a pity to come in here, expecting a good, serious argument and then be completely thrown off by a little, stupid biohazard symbol.
Thanks for proving my point.

[Captain M4d]

Thanks for proving my point.
But avatars do not deter me from fully engaging someone in a conversation. That's my point.
Your mental capacity can't be all that high either. Read that first sentence again, champ.
I'm sorry it succeeds your mental capacity. I had an adult reading level when I was in elementary school, and I have clearly demonstrated that to you now.

[willho]

But avatars do not deter me from fully engaging someone in a conversation. That's my point.
Yes, but your point is not valid, because I've been owning left and right.

You being left, the Biohazard guy being right.

[Warbie]

Yeah, and playing the same Mario game 35,957 times over is also very fun.

That's quite a blinkered view.

The difference with the DS is that it also offers a great deal of originality on top of the usual Nintendo fare. The PSP has yet to offer much new, and even less that isn't better on, or more suited to, the PS2. Been there, done that ....

[Captain M4d]

Yes, but your point is not valid, because I've been owning left and right.

You being left, the Biohazard guy being right.
Well, it appears that you have abandoned logic, so I shall abandon you and your lackey.

[Stigmata]

No, that's where you're wrong. Feeding a donkey is not fun.So based on your extensive and highly critical synopsis of the gameplay, I could accurately presume it's called "Nintendo Presents: Feed The Donkey DS"? Because apparently that's the only thing you do in that game. Using this overview as a framework, I could go and say, "Hey, you know that game Metal Gear Solid 2? It sucks. If you think it's good, you're wrong, because putting a body in an empty locker is not fun."

P.S. I can't take you seriously when you have such a stupid avatar.Okay... I don't see how that's entirely relevant to the discussion, especially when one considers that your avatar isn't so much an avatar as it is a bastard child of Ronald McDonald and Knuckles.

[willho]

Okay... I don't see how that's entirely relevant to the discussion, especially when one considers that your avatar isn't so much an avatar as it is a bastard child of Ronald McDonald and Knuckles.
Why do you keep saying the same crap over and over? Just accept the fact that I'm right, and you're wrong.

BTW, that is Cashew the clown in my avatar. No relation whatsoever to whoever the hell you mentioned.

P.S. I can tell you like to ignore signatures. GG.

[dream431ca]

If you like good gameplay, DS, if you like slightly better graphics and extremely long loading times and short battery life, PSP.

[DreadLord]

If you like good gameplay, DS, if you like slightly better graphics and extremely long loading times and short battery life, PSP.

Yay for continuing the non-existant battery life problems!

Want battery power in the form of a handheld? Buy a DS!

Want ignorant information from people who have never held a PSP in their lives? Visit HL2.net!

[Sui]

Umm some famous series on PSP:
Metal Gear
Ridge Racer
Grand Theft Auto
Syphon Filter
Tony Hawk (Sucks.. But still quite popular with some)
Twisted Metal
SOCOM
Need For Speed
Street Fighter
Madden NFL
The Sims
ATV Offroad Fury
Dynasty Warriors
Splinter Cell
Burnout

Aaaaahaha. This made me laugh.

Metal Gear Ac!d 1&2 - I'll give you this. It's the only unique game on the PSP, and for an MGS fan like myself, seriously appealing.
Ridge Racer - Oh yay, another realistic racing sim. If you've ever played it on the PS2, then you don't need to play it on a tiny screen.
Grand Theft Auto - Maybe if they made a new game.. but they haven't. GTA: Liberty City Stories is just GTA3 with some shitty new missions. Yawn.
Syphon Filter - Everyone knows the Syphon Filter series sucks on current-gen consoles. They were great PS1 games, but they died with the platform.
Tony Hawk - What's this, Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 115: now with realistic wheel physics?
Twisted Metal - Never really played it
SOCOM - Again, never played it... doesn't look interesting though
Need For Speed - It's the same as the PS2 version, but on a small screen. lol.
Street Fighter - Actually, this is quite a good idea. Street fighter is fun, and a portable version makes sense.
Madden NFL - Sports games. Yuk.
The Sims - NOOOOOOOOO
ATV Offroad Fury - With a name like that, it has to suck.
Dynasty Warriors - Deja'- vu?
Splinter Cell - Metal Gear Ac!d is on the PSP, who needs Sam Fisher?
Burnout - PS2 LOL.

So, let's summarise. The PSP has... Megal Gear Ac!d and a load of PS2 games, Whereas the DS actually has DECENT GAMES.

Examples: Metroid Prime Hunters - you can actually aim as well as you can with a mouse - the stylus is great and it allows you to get some amazing headshots :D
Castlevania: Dawn of Sorrow - It's a platformer... but you level up and get to buy new swords. A platformer RPG. How damn cool is that? Answer - very.
Mario Kart: DS - Okay, maybe not that original, but everyone loves mario kart and with the DS you can play online!
Advance Wars DS - completely touch-controlled RTS. Absolutely wonderful to play. This is the perfect handheld game by far - command a few battles, close the DS lid, slip the console in your pocket, then take it out again when you're on the train and tap away at the screen some more. It's one of my favorite RTS games!
Legand of Zelda- Hourglass thingie - sure, it's an old title, but with the DS you can control Link entirely with the touchscreen - and even sail the numerous seas using this feature, too. Plus it's Zelda. ZELDA.
Final Fantasy 3 - one of the best games of the series, revitalised on the DS. Yes, it's old, but it's so old it's new.
Brain Age - This is the game which is selling DS consoles over in Japan. It's not a game, but a training coach for your brain. Possibly the only game which is aimed at adults, in any PSP or DS list (GTA is aimed at kids, y'know).
Plus loads more that I don't have enough money to buy (this list is just the games that I own / will own soon).

At the end of the day, handheld consoles are for playing games, and seeing as the PSP simply has PS2 games you'd be better off buying a PS2. It's cheaper.

[secret friend]

I'm sorry it succeeds your mental capacity. It must be a pity to come in here, expecting a good, serious argument and then be completely thrown off by a little, stupid biohazard symbol.
Your mental capacity can't be all that high either. Read that first sentence again, champ.

Exceeds, not succeeds.


PS:This thread has turned into a battlefield :(

[willho]

Aaaaahaha. This made me laugh.

Metal Gear Ac!d 1&2 - I'll give you this. It's the only unique game on the PSP, and for an MGS fan like myself, seriously appealing.
Ridge Racer - Oh yay, another realistic racing sim. If you've ever played it on the PS2, then you don't need to play it on a tiny screen.
Grand Theft Auto - Maybe if they made a new game.. but they haven't. GTA: Liberty City Stories is just GTA3 with some shitty new missions. Yawn.
Syphon Filter - Everyone knows the Syphon Filter series sucks on current-gen consoles. They were great PS1 games, but they died with the platform.
Tony Hawk - What's this, Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 115: now with realistic wheel physics?
Twisted Metal - Never really played it
SOCOM - Again, never played it... doesn't look interesting though
Need For Speed - It's the same as the PS2 version, but on a small screen. lol.
Street Fighter - Actually, this is quite a good idea. Street fighter is fun, and a portable version makes sense.
Madden NFL - Sports games. Yuk.
The Sims - NOOOOOOOOO
ATV Offroad Fury - With a name like that, it has to suck.
Dynasty Warriors - Deja'- vu?
Splinter Cell - Metal Gear Ac!d is on the PSP, who needs Sam Fisher?
Burnout - PS2 LOL.

So, let's summarise. The PSP has... Megal Gear Ac!d and a load of PS2 games, Whereas the DS actually has DECENT GAMES.

Examples: Metroid Prime Hunters - you can actually aim as well as you can with a mouse - the stylus is great and it allows you to get some amazing headshots :D
Castlevania: Dawn of Sorrow - It's a platformer... but you level up and get to buy new swords. A platformer RPG. How damn cool is that? Answer - very.
Mario Kart: DS - Okay, maybe not that original, but everyone loves mario kart and with the DS you can play online!
Advance Wars DS - completely touch-controlled RTS. Absolutely wonderful to play. This is the perfect handheld game by far - command a few battles, close the DS lid, slip the console in your pocket, then take it out again when you're on the train and tap away at the screen some more. It's one of my favorite RTS games!
Legand of Zelda- Hourglass thingie - sure, it's an old title, but with the DS you can control Link entirely with the touchscreen - and even sail the numerous seas using this feature, too. Plus it's Zelda. ZELDA.
Final Fantasy 3 - one of the best games of the series, revitalised on the DS. Yes, it's old, but it's so old it's new.
Brain Age - This is the game which is selling DS consoles over in Japan. It's not a game, but a training coach for your brain. Possibly the only game which is aimed at adults, in any PSP or DS list (GTA is aimed at kids, y'know).
Plus loads more that I don't have enough money to buy (this list is just the games that I own / will own soon).

At the end of the day, handheld consoles are for playing games, and seeing as the PSP simply has PS2 games you'd be better off buying a PS2. It's cheaper.Ever heard of the Green Day song Walking Contradiction?

[Stigmata]

Why do you keep saying the same crap over and over? Just accept the fact that I'm right, and you're wrong.

BTW, that is Cashew the clown in my avatar. No relation whatsoever to whoever the hell you mentioned.

P.S. I can tell you like to ignore signatures. GG.No, I checked it, and it looks like a pretty comprehensive list of your personal masteries to me. I just happened to be going along with your exaggerations.

The point here is twofold. One, I'm going to ignore the sub-thread dealing with the fact that my avatar is apparently stupid... when there are far, far worse ones around here. Two, if I were to cut you, you would bleed logical fallacy. You tell me to stop repeating myself, when I've done nothing but rebutt your arguments, all while you whine your "PSP is better than DS!" mantra with your fingers stuck in your ears. If you perhaps made a discrete point, rather than spewing what amounts to Bible Logic(no offense if you're Christian), we might get a good debate going. But I guess we can keep this going until we get nice, toasty flame war going. It's really up to you.

[Sui]

Ever heard of the Green Day song Walking Contradiction?

No, because Green Day suck.

And you're not master of hyperbole. Sarcasm isn't hyperbole. You're just being extremely sarcastic, or, needlessly offensive.

[DreadLord]

Aaaaahaha. This made me laugh.

You're quite comical yourself. Fanboyism anyone?

Blah blah blah, ...and a load of PS2 games,

Yeah, gotta hate when they continue a series of successful games! I've never heard of these titles!



Metroid Prime
Castlevania
Mario Kart
Legand of Zelda
Final Fantasy

At the end of the day, handheld consoles are for playing games, and seeing as the PSP simply has PS2 games you'd be better off buying a PS2. It's cheaper.

Yeah, so are N64s and Gamecubes. Your argument fails miserably.

Oh, and quick editing on your part. You very quickly changed NEW to DECENT to save your ass, once you realized that your only reason for hating the PSP, is invalid and unfounded, not to mention completely hypocritical.

http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/4886/bs4cf.jpg

Good day to you.

[willho]

No, because Green Day suck.

And you're not master of hyperbole. Sarcasm isn't hyperbole. You're just being extremely sarcastic, or, needlessly offensive.
Sarcasm is often times marked by the use of exaggeration, or hyperbole.

If you'd like to continue this arguement elsewhere, I'd suggest IMing me on AIM at IamBetterThanYou.

[Cole]

The PSP can play all Nintendo, SNES, N64, and Genesis games, so that doesn't really help.
Illegally of course. But I wasn't commenting on why you should get a DS I was more commenting on Nintendo Games in general.

Nintendo's games may seem kiddyish but there simple. Most are mindless and very relaxing. This is what makes them fun.

And mindless games just like mindless humor is for just about everyone. Take a look at family guy and south park. Now if more people would just sit down and try the games like they sit down and watch the TV.

Umm some famous series on PSP:
Metal Gear
Ridge Racer
Grand Theft Auto
Syphon Filter
Tony Hawk (Sucks.. But still quite popular with some)
Twisted Metal
SOCOM
Need For Speed
Street Fighter
Madden NFL
The Sims
ATV Offroad Fury
Dynasty Warriors
Splinter Cell
Burnout

Not to mention a few hundred other individual titles, and tons of other well known games. But yeah, nothing good on PSP.
I ment in my personal opinion. I've gotton bored with all those types of games. I can't play Far Cry, Doom 3, HL2, BF2, etc.. and just playing Episode 1 was boring for me cuz I've just played FPS's right out of my ass. I simply cannot find a fun FPS anymore.
I just need a game that is something completely different. Hopefully the Wii will have some neat stuff.

No, because Green Day suck.
You Suck. I am not a huge fan of green day(I listen to them maybe a few times a month), but they do not suck.

[secret friend]

willho you are a <edit: ok I want to mantain the peace here>. but get the **** out of my thread.

[VictimOfScience]

It already has PS1 emulation, and a built in browser.
Yeah, can you download any PS1 game you want from Sony? No? Didn't think so. I said OFFICIAL PS1 EMULATION. Don't be daft.

[willho]

willho you are stupid bastard. get the **** out of my thread.
I'm pretty sure that I'm more well-liked than you are in this community, so my response to your crap is "no."

[Sui]

I admit it may seem like I was being hypocritical, but actually, I was saying that PSP games are literally exactly the same as their PS2 predecessors. Syphon filter, street fighter, football games, ridge racer... they're all just the same. If you want to spend £200 on a console which plays PS2 games, that's fine by me, but why don't you just get a PS2.. it's easier.

The games I listed for the DS may be well known Nintendo titles, but that doesn't mean they're not new games. Ummm, Metroid Prime, for instance, is the first console game in which you're actually able to AIM. Ever. The only game I listed which wasn't considerably improved or unique was Mario Kart DS.

Your argument fails miserably.

What? Why? DS games are more fun than PSP games. That's not a failed argument, it's the truth.

...well, unless you like the old school PS2 games, but that's your choice I suppose :dozey:


If you'd like to continue this arguement elsewhere, I'd suggest IMing me on AIM at IamBetterThanYou.

SHUT THE F*CK UP YOUR AVATAR ANNOYS ME. From now on I am pretending you do not exist. Your words will not register in my mind, so don't bother trying to communicate with me.

(and just for the record, sarcasm is a blunt, wittless form of humour which can be adopted by anyone. Hyperbole is used to describe more poetic exaggeration, and therefore because it is used in a more intallectually stimulating context, it is most commonly associated with more meaningful literature, not some stupid clown-avatar-person's forum posts).

[DreadLord]

Yeah, can you download any PS1 game you want from Sony? No? Didn't think so. I said OFFICIAL PS1 EMULATION. Don't be daft.

Oh sorry, champ. I didn't see where you specified where the games would be coming from. And I clearly didn't see it marked OFFICIALZ.

[DreadLord]

What? Why? DS games are more fun than PSP games. That's not a failed argument, it's the truth.

...well, unless you like the old school PS2 games, but that's your choice I suppose :dozey:

Exactly! My point was that there's tons of well known titles, plus hundreds of extra new games. Just because blatant fanboyism gets in your eyes, doesn't mean you have to walk into the great wall of ignorance.

"DS games are more fun than PSP games" is the stupidest statement in this thread so far, other than "green day sucks".

[willho]

(and just for the record, sarcasm is a blunt, wittless form of humour which can be adopted by anyone. Hyperbole is used to describe more poetic exaggeration, and therefore because it is used in a more intallectually stimulating context, it is most commonly associated with more meaningful literature, not some stupid clown-avatar-person's forum posts).Hyperbole can be used anywhere. Shut up.

[Sui]

"DS games are more fun than PSP games" is the stupidest statement in this thread so far, other than "green day sucks".


Both of those comments were opinions, not statements. But I'm glad you think of them as objective statements - they seem to be the viewpoints held by the intallectual majority, after all.

*Edit* WOAH, for a moment there I thought a stupid, penis-shaped clown was trying to say something, but then I remembered that my mind has an idiot firewall, and the nasty thoughts went away.

[secret friend]

willho, ok but your avatar is still an insult to my eyes :D

[DreadLord]

Bot of those comments were opinions, not statements. But I'm glad you think of them as objective statements - they seem to be the biewpoints held by the intallectual majority, after all.

Just stop. Stop claiming things to be true. Just because you don't like the PSP's game selection, doesn't mean the other millions of PSP owners are wrong and should buy DSes instead. Not everyone wants mindless crap from the early 90's all over again.

[willho]

*Edit* WOAH, for a moment there I thought a stupid, penis-shaped clown was trying to say something, but then I remembered that my mind has an idiot firewall, and the nasty thoughts went away.2nd grade ignoring tactics. Very mature.

P.S. Human minds don't have firewalls.

[Sui]

Not everyone wants mindless crap from the early 90's all over again.

Not everyone wants mindless crap which has been aimed at the brainless zombie hordes of American youth and designed purely to reel in cash and market shares. Some people want to play enjoyable games.

*Edit* A little birdie just told me that someone with a crap avatar said something about maturity.

Well...


I'm pretty sure that I'm more well-liked than you are in this community, so my response to your crap is "no."

LOL.

[dream431ca]

Yay for continuing the non-existant battery life problems!

Want battery power in the form of a handheld? Buy a DS!

Want ignorant information from people who have never held a PSP in their lives? Visit HL2.net!

I have both the PSP and the DS and the DS is a much better system. You assume way to much..and your a fanboy...and fanboys lack commonsense because they never listen.

[VictimOfScience]

Oh sorry, champ. I didn't see where you specified where the games would be coming from. And I clearly didn't see it marked OFFICIALZ.
No sweat. Easy mistake to make. :cheers:

Enjoy the rest of the ridiculousness that this thred has become! I am staying out of this lunacy!!!

[Stigmata]

You know what's fun? Dissolving an entire thread based on entirely subjective points.

[Sui]

Oh yeah, as for the fanboy comments, I'm not a Nintendo fanboy. I think Nintendo are a pretty appauling company, actually - as they drive away both consumers and third-party developers alike with their crap policies. I just love the DS games. I suppose I could be a fanboy of all the decent DS games, but I'm not necessarily a fanboy of the DS. I mean, why the **** does it have two screens? It only needs one IMO...

[willho]

*Edit* A little birdie just told me that someone with a crap avatar said something about maturity.

Well...



LOL.
What you just did was register something I said (for the second time, no less).

SHUT THE F*CK UP YOUR AVATAR ANNOYS ME. From now on I am pretending you do not exist. Your words will not register in my mind, so don't bother trying to communicate with me.

You fail.

[DreadLord]

http://humanities.byu.edu/elc/student/idioms/idioms/images/throw_in_towel.jpg

[Sui]

Incase you couldn't tell, I was joking. I don't really have a firewall in my brain, because that would be stupid. Anyway, your posts are hilarious, I wouldn't miss them for the world :laugh:

[towel image]

Awesome, you threw in the towel. Cool. Leave the thread now, please.

[Vegeta897]

First of all, Willho, you don't even belong in here. On the rare occasion that your posts are even on topic, you still manage to look like a fruit.

Dreadlord: How low it is of you to play the fanboy card. You are being as much of a "fanboy" as Suicide is.

The PSP has recreations of PS2 games, that play just the same, but on a smaller screen.
VS.
Nearly all DS games have completely ORIGINAL gameplay, primarily due to the unique, innovative, and fun stylus.

You could conclude that DS wins in the games catagory.

As for graphics... Sure, the PSP has better rendering capability... But listen, good looking game != good graphics. It's about, like someone said earlier, STYLE. Why the hell do I even need good graphics on such a small screen. I really doubt I'm going to notice extra polygons. The PSP only has good graphics because all its games are clones of console games, which need good graphics.
DS games on the other hand look great, and usually have a very creative style to them.

You could conclude that the DS games look better (not have more polygons) than PSP games.

This is all I care to argue about as of now. You need to stop the flaming btw. It only makes you look childish.

BTW, Suicide, you said the Advance Wars on the DS plays like an RTS? As in real time? Not like the turn-based previous games? This interests me.

[Sui]

Vegeta's right, of course. I just love reading all these comedy replies :laugh:

[willho]

First of all, Willho, you don't even belong in here. On the rare occasion that your posts are even on topic, you still manage to look like a fruit.I missed the part where I made myself look like this:
http://img53.imageshack.us/img53/7571/applemacintosh6gc.jpg

[Vegeta897]

Hahaha. You've got to be like, taking the piss right? :laugh: Keep going.

Well, if you're a fruit, and I'm a vegetable... Err, wow, I see your point. I'm glad you're not a fruit, I'd hate to be associated with you in any way. ;)

[sinkoman]

You fail.

Coming from the man speaking to a deaf person?

Lol.

[Ren.182]

*snip*
Vegeta wins! :D

[Sparta]

I recently saw an article on Gamasutra.com on "Nintendo DS vs PSP" and it was generally reader/consumer feedback from people who had bought both the PSP and DS.

Most people thought the DS was the superior product in terms of value and quality of games.

I'm thinking about buying a DS but i already own a Gamecube and a PS2. Not to mention i recently upgraded my computer. I don't really want to be anymore geeky than i already am now.

[Samon]

Grand Theft Auto - Maybe if they made a new game.. but they haven't. GTA: Liberty City Stories is just GTA3 with some shitty new missions. Yawn.


Ima going to disagree. LCS is excellent. Liberty City is a fantastic city and I loved the missions.

[Insano]

I'm pretty sure that I'm more well-liked than you are in this community, so my response to your crap is "no."Thanks man. You make my day :laugh:I missed the part where I made myself look like this:
http://img53.imageshack.us/img53/7571/applemacintosh6gc.jpgI think he meant you look like this:


http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/241/rotlol5aj.png

[ThomasToad]

The true sad part of this is that DreadLord1337 and willho are only arguing to get a rise out of people online, and it's probably the best part of their day.

[VictimOfScience]

The true sad part of this is that DreadLord1337 and willho are only arguing to get a rise out of people online, and it's probably the best part of their day.
I agree. Its just dumb. Its not even silly. I like silly. Silly is fun. Dumb is not.

This thread might have been wonderful and informative, but now its filthy and foul and full of fuggin futile fanboy flaming. What a shame...;(.

[DreadLord]

The true sad part of this is that DreadLord1337 and willho are only arguing to get a rise out of people online, and it's probably the best part of their day.

Who the hell are you? Piss off.

[Warbie]

So - it's 2 votes for the PSP, everyone else for the DS.

[willho]

Yeah, but we have valid arguements. Everybody else in this thread chants the same "OMF BATTERY POWER" song.

[ThomasToad]

Yeah, that and everyone thinks the DS games are flat out better, and yes that is their opinion but they don't need to state it as so. The PSP can win in pretty much every other category and it really wouldn't matter.

[Warbie]

Yeah, but we have valid arguements. Everybody else in this thread chants the same "OMF BATTERY POWER" song.

Only a few have, the rest have completely different points.

[Jangle]

Yeah, but we have valid arguements. Everybody else in this thread chants the same "OMF BATTERY POWER" song.

Do you try to be infuriating?

[VictimOfScience]

Only a few have, the rest have completely different points.
True. Plus its just really hard to have a meaningful thread about something that comes down to personal preference in the first place. This one was doomed to fail I suppose. The best advice one can give is:

--look at the games for each system
--look at the other potential functionality of each system
--look at your wallet

Then decide on which system to pick with your new set of data that matters to you and not anyone else, esp. the flamers and loonies in this thread.

[SimonomiS]

If you cannot decide on your own, don't buy either.

[ChiChi]

Tell him he's a retard.

Signed,
The World.

Actually, the DS is outselling the PSP everywhere in the world, so I think your the retard. And why does every post you make have you flaming uselesely and being a general dickhead? And wilho talking about how "mature" he is. The PSP is a good system, with some good games like Metal Gear Solid,GTA and Burnout, but, imho, they are basicly PS2 games and don't provide the unique experience that the DS brings. Just my two cents.

[DreadLord]

so I think your the retard.

That's an incredibly ironic statement. And no, the PSP has outsold the DS in the US, just not Japan. End it, noob.

How about we let this thread die now?

[Xune]

Game Gear for the win!

[Vegeta897]

That's an incredibly ironic statement. And no, the PSP has outsold the DS in the US, just not Japan. End it, noob.O... k...? Why are you breaking it into individual countries? Is America the only country that matters? DS sales are higher than PSP sales in total. (Everywhere, the whole world), this is all that matters. Breaking it up into individual countries, and claiming there is a difference, would just be... well, you could call it racist or ignorant. "Japanese people don't matter, I'm not going to take their opinions into view" :|

I get the feeling you know you are being brutally beaten down in this thread, so I'll stop humoring you.

[DreadLord]

O... k...? Why are you breaking it into individual countries? Is America the only country that matters? DS sales are higher than PSP sales in total. (Everywhere, the whole world), this is all that matters. Breaking it up into individual countries, and claiming there is a difference, would just be... well, you could call it racist or ignorant. "Japanese people don't matter, I'm not going to take their opinions into view" :|

I get the feeling you know you are being brutally beaten down in this thread, so I'll stop humoring you.

Because he said the DS was outselling the PSP everywhere, which it isn't.

Again, let the thread die. I didn't get beaten down once, The kid even said he was buying a PSP.

[secret friend]

kid? what kid?


Is it possible to play ROMS of old Nintendo games on the DS? If not, then PSP all the way

[Ren.182]

kid? what kid?


Is it possible to play ROMS of old Nintendo games on the DS? If not, then PSP all the way

Yes, you can play Roms on the DS... Just need to buy some extras... i'll find the thread for you.

http://www.halflife2.net/forums/showthread.php?t=107624

[secret friend]

Yes, you can play Roms on the DS... Just need to buy some extras... i'll find the thread for you.

http://www.halflife2.net/forums/showthread.php?t=107624
yeah but those little extras are over $100

[Ren.182]

I know. I'm not sure if theres a cheaper way though. You can buy an add on for about $20 i believe that will allow you to play movies, images and music.

Doesn't the $100 add on stuff still work out to be cheaper than a PSP when brought with a DS?
Also, you could buy a smaller storage card to save a bit of dosh. Since roms can be pretty small you wont need huge amounts of space (i.e. 1GB. You could probably have enough space with 256mb or even a 128mb card. That'd lower the price of that little uprade.)
Also, don't you need a PSP running at version 1.5 to play/use homebrew programs. Aren't all new PSP's shipped with the latest version 2.x??

[AmishSlayer]

yeah but those little extras are over $100

Well the PSP is $250, whereas the DS Lite is $130.

As a person that has a DS Lite I'd say DS is the way to go. I have 2 friends with a DS and PSP, they never touch their PSP any more and I have a friend with just a PSP and he wishes he had a DS.

DS has more original gameplay and that = win for me.

[Fliko]

I'd like to point out to emulate stuff on the PSP requires a downgrade to 1.5, and Sony now requires that you upgrade your PSP to play the newer games. The updates comes on the disk too.

[Gorgon]

PSP2 soon

http://www.kotaku.com/gaming/psp/psp2-to-feature-foldable-screen-tech-patent-says-nothing-180006.php

[theotherguy]

if it has that feature before everything else it will be revolutionary. I've been waiting for folding or otherwise flexible screens for ages.

[DreadLord]

Is it possible to play ROMS of old Nintendo games on the DS? If not, then PSP all the way

Not without extra stuff, however the PSP can play Nintendo, SNES, Genesis, and N64 roms without anything extra.

[Ren.182]

Not without extra stuff, however the PSP can play Nintendo, SNES, Genesis, and N64 roms without anything extra.

I'd like to point out to emulate stuff on the PSP requires a downgrade to 1.5, and Sony now requires that you upgrade your PSP to play the newer games. The updates comes on the disk too.

Just like to point out that he may not be able to play newer games.

[Jintor]

Personally, I would go for the PSP, but only because

A) GTA HANDHELD WOOOOO!
B) Media center.

Unfortunantly, i hear it has the battery life of a dead ant.

[Insano]

Yes, you can play Roms on the DS... Just need to buy some extras... i'll find the thread for you.

http://www.halflife2.net/forums/showthread.php?t=107624My God.

DreadLord1337 spammed that thread too...

This is just sad.

PS: I consider myself a neutral source, and I prefer the DS.

[DreadLord]

My God.

DreadLord1337 spammed that thread too...

This is just sad.

PS: I consider myself a neutral source, and I prefer the DS.

No, I didn't. I made one post and he told me to shut up. That's not spamming whatsoever, why don't you PISS THE HELL OFF now.

And you're not neutral if you prefer the DS you friggin' clown.

[AmishSlayer]

No, I didn't. I made one post and he told me to shut up. That's not spamming whatsoever, why don't you PISS THE HELL OFF now.

And you're not neutral if you prefer the DS you friggin' clown.

He obviously means unbiased...

[DreadLord]

He obviously means unbiased...

How is he unbiased more than anyone else though? I own a DS and a PSP, am I unbiased? Pfft.

[Sui]

How is he unbiased more than anyone else though? I own a DS and a PSP, am I unbiased? Pfft.

Yes Oh, and you're an idiot. Whoops, did I say that outloud?

[AmishSlayer]

Yes Oh, and you're an idiot. Whoops, did I say that outloud?

Heh, before coming into this thread I saw "Sui" made the latest post...

Didn't realize you got your name changed :P

[JNightshade]

No kidding! :O
First SHIPPI gets name reduction, then you get the last 3/4 of yours taken off! What's next, Munro becoming Munrobot!?

[AmishSlayer]

No kidding! :O
First SHIPPI gets name reduction, then you get the last 3/4 of yours taken off! What's next, Munro becoming Munrobot!?

Nope, just "Mun" or "Mu"

Just like I'll become "Ami" :P

[Vegeta897]

People call me Veg sometimes like some people call Suicide Sui sometimes so I think I should go to Veg.

Atleast it will get rid of those noobish, although legendary, numbers.

We should all get our names shortened. 3 letters, everyone. It would be a breath of fresh air into the... names... I dunno, it would be neat to see everyone have 3 letter names. And we'd have to get creative for people with longer names. We sure would have to rely on avatar recognition more often :p

[Gray Fox]

People call me Veg sometimes like some people call Suicide Sui sometimes so I think I should go to Veg.

Atleast it will get rid of those noobish, although legendary, numbers.

We should all get our names shortened. 3 letters, everyone. It would be a breath of fresh air into the... names... I dunno, it would be neat to see everyone have 3 letter names. And we'd have to get creative for people with longer names. We sure would have to rely on avatar recognition more often :p
I rely on it to much, I seriously get confused when people change their avatars.

[^Ben]

Oh man - the fanboys in this thread especially coming from the Sony side is just ergh.

When they start running out of points they resort to insulting avatars, then people. And then pulling facts out their butts.

[Insano]

Yes, I did mean unbiased, instead of neutral. Pardon me, thanks for pointing out my mistake by insulting me.PISS THE HELL OFF:|

Someone seems to have mental problems...

[DreadLord]

Yes, I did mean unbiased, instead of neutral. Pardon me, thanks for pointing out my mistake by insulting me.:|

Someone seems to have mental problems...

No, this thread ended days ago, and people keep bumping it with more stupid ass remarks like yours, it's annoying as hell.

[Vegeta897]

No, this thread ended days ago, and people keep bumping it with more stupid ass remarks like yours, it's annoying as hell.The Internet, Serious Business.

I find that nearly everything annoys you to hell and you snap on nearly everyone you disagree with. Well sinse you've just admitted you let things on the internet annoy you to hell, it would be wise to either calm the hell down because you get way too pissed off at the internet, or just leave entirely for a few weeks.

[Combine Hybrid]

No, this thread ended days ago, and people keep bumping it with more stupid ass remarks like yours, it's annoying as hell.
Same as your psp bragging.

[Ren.182]

No, this thread ended days ago, and people keep bumping it with more stupid ass remarks like yours, it's annoying as hell.

You don't have to keep replying you know, nobody made you look back in the thread.

[_Z_Ryuken]

Hilarious thread. Read it front2back.

I played the DS at various game stores. MP Hunters, something else. Couldn't get into it.
I played my friends PSP. Most of the games SUCKED, except for the remake of MMX1. It was fun for 2 hours, I beat it and was done with it.

It seems everyone around here with PSP got it for the hype factor and it's for the most part collecting dust unless they have the v1.5. Those guys haul it around with porn and anime. Otherwise useless.
I have yet to see anyone with a DS above 10 years old. That's not to say it's for kids. I want one for some reason. It's just an appealing thing. Course I'm also a PDA guy.
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Replying to this comment just may get you banned. :0

[Samon]

Next person to post in this thread is banned. :p

[AmishSlayer]

I have yet to see anyone with a DS above 10 years old. That's not to say it's for kids. I want one for some reason. It's just an appealing thing. Course I'm also a PDA guy.

I'm 21 and me and my friends love the DS. I think the people under 10 you're seeing are probably playing games like Nintendogs or Animal Crossing or something. I'm playing Kirby, Mario 64 DS and Mario & Luigi: Partners in Time (still need to get Kart DS).

[secret friend]

Those guys haul it around with porn and anime. Otherwise useless..

Do those guys watch porn on the train, or just masturbate in public bathrooms?

[Samon]

Next person to post in this thread is banned. :p

!!

[Ren.182]

I have yet to see anyone with a DS above 10 years old. That's not to say it's for kids. I want one for some reason. It's just an appealing thing.

I'm 18, and i know at least 3 other 18 year olds who have a DS. I see random people around college with a DS, and a couple with a PSP. Apparently a lot fo adults are getting into the DS in Japan too with that new brain game thingy-majig.

[Samon]

Damn.

[Stigmata]

I think the people under 10 you're seeing are probably playing games like Nintendogs or Animal Crossing or something.Not true. I'm 18, just got my DS Lite yesterday (I wanted a black one :(), and picked up New Super Mario Bros., Metroid Prime Hunters, Nintendogs, and Animal Crossing. All four of these games are amazing, and really addictive.

As for some legitimate closure to the argument, I've played the PSP and the DS a great deal over the past few weeks. Well - that's not entirely true. I tried out GTA LCS and Metal Gear Solid on the PSP for a while, and was mildly entertained. I was then intrigued, and subsequently bored, by the homebrew SNES emulation. I was then sucked into Metroid Prime Hunters for about two hours straight, until a guy on the store floor told me to let other people play.

Really, the difference between the PSP and the DS is graphical horsepower, control, and originality. The PSP is great for PS2-quality visuals on the go. But you've already played all those games in exactly the same way you played them on the PS2. With the DS, you get the touchscreen (which really does make games easier to control, especially inventories in games like Animal Crossing), and you also get really inventive and addictive games you won't see on any other system (like Nintendogs, Kirby Canvas Curse, etc.).

If you're a graphics whore, the PSP is for you. If you like games that are different than what you've been playing for the past 20 years, the DS is for you.

[AmishSlayer]

Not true. I'm 18, just got my DS Lite yesterday (I wanted a black one :(), and picked up New Super Mario Bros., Metroid Prime Hunters, Nintendogs, and Animal Crossing. All four of these games are amazing, and really addictive.

I wasn't saying that those games are just for youngin's - just pointing out the fact that it's probably their biggest audience.

Personally I'm finding it hard to put down my Lite when I have Mario 64 DS, M&L: RPG and Kirby.

Can't wait for the new Zelda and the new Starfox :)

[boglito]

I'm completely unbiased when it comes to handehelds (because I stopped using those when I turned 11) but I always love a good flame-war. A lot of people are coming across as idiots in this thread, and if you are thinking "well, I sure don't" then you are probably very wrong.

.bog.

[Gray Fox]

I'm completely unbiased when it comes to handehelds (because I stopped using those when I turned 11) but I always love a good flame-war. A lot of people are coming across as idiots in this thread, and if you are thinking "well, I sure don't" then you are probably very wrong.

.bog.
;(

[Sui]

!!

Fire a gun into the air, then people would notice you!

[Insano]

Fire a gun into the air, then people would notice you!Noooo!

Now you gave him an excuse to pull down his pants :(

[Kyorisu]

Reason to get a DS (I recommend this option): Fast easy to fire up games that are fun and entertaining.

Reason to get a PSP: If you like the extra easy ability to store movies, music, photos and a web browser pick this option.

I own a PSP and my brothers getting one too. I still recommend the DS to everyone else though. If you want a portable gaming machine go the DS nuff said on the matter.

Unfortunantly, i hear it has the battery life of a dead ant.

I get 6 hours out of mine + car charger/USB charger. Not that I use it that much per day if at all. What battery life does the DS have?

I got a PSP mainly becuase I like the Jap developers that produce games for it. Stores actually sell that sort of stuff down here. Now if I walk into EB or any other joint down here I'll only find Mario and other annoying games for the DS. I want a mature storyline dammit. That and the following;

Lumines - Simply an awesome simple and addicting puzzle game
Ghost in the Shell: Stand alone complex
Tales of Eternia - Nice RPG
Metal Gear Acid - Card game lol
Mercury - Gotta love the blobs of metal
Coded Arms - Nice FPS
Bleach 1&2 - Generic 3d fighter, but I like bleach

[VictimOfScience]

This won't end. It can't!

Unless of course Samon does in fact pull a gun...or lays down some bans (a lot of bans)...or just closes the thread with a fascist sequence of keystrokes/mouse clicks....

Here are some things to think about in regards to the thread topic though:

--Cool people buy a DS
--Cool people buy a PSP
--Cool people buy both
--Cool people buy neither

--Friggin idiots buy a DS
--Friggin idiots buy a PSP
--Friggin idiots buy both
--Friggin idiots buy neither

--Republicans buy a DS
--Republicans buy a PSP
--Republicans buy both
--Republicans buy neither

--Democrats buy a DS
--Democrats buy a PSP
--Democrats buy both
--Democrats buy neither

--Gamers buy a DS
--Gamers buy a PSP
--Gamers buy both
--Gamers buy neither

See what I am getting at here?

[Captain M4d]

So how's this little war going? I left because it's just like any polarized argument where neither side really wants to approach anything with a Rogerian style so it's almost completely senseless to argue.

And I'm sorry for my bad word usage. It's inexcusable.

[Insano]

Mortal Kombat Fatality has ended.

[Asus]

Just buy a pad of paper and a pencil. Endless fun with games...well until you run out of paper.

[neozero]

Reason to get a DS (I recommend this option): Fast easy to fire up games that are fun and entertaining.

Reason to get a PSP: If you like the extra easy ability to store movies, music, photos and a web browser pick this option.

I own a PSP and my brothers getting one too. I still recommend the DS to everyone else though. If you want a portable gaming machine go the DS nuff said on the matter.



I get 6 hours out of mine + car charger/USB charger. Not that I use it that much per day if at all. What battery life does the DS have?

I got a PSP mainly becuase I like the Jap developers that produce games for it. Stores actually sell that sort of stuff down here. Now if I walk into EB or any other joint down here I'll only find Mario and other annoying games for the DS. I want a mature storyline dammit. That and the following;

Lumines - Simply an awesome simple and addicting puzzle game
Ghost in the Shell: Stand alone complex
Tales of Eternia - Nice RPG
Metal Gear Acid - Card game lol
Mercury - Gotta love the blobs of metal
Coded Arms - Nice FPS
Bleach 1&2 - Generic 3d fighter, but I like bleach

DS is getting it's own version of Opera Mobile, and previews of it have been fantastic.

I personally have been all about DS since I was able to get one. Love it. I was jealous of PSP owners in the begining, because it seemed more capable. But if I REALLY wanted to, I could get a movie player that gives DS all the functionality (save for graphics) of a DS for less money.

I think that PSP tries to be this jack of all trades system, but in the end loses touch with what makes a handheld a handheld. Case in point UMD movies. Brilliant in Ideas, but not so in execution. UMD sales have been horrible, and many studios are pulling support. I'm not (http://www.canmag.com/news/4/8/3134) making this up (http://www.engadget.com/2006/02/16/breaking-news-sonys-umds-arent-selling-well).

With that said both systems due have a slew of excellent titles in the works, and both have been doing phenominal (as of late the DS is the world wide leader due to the launch of the DS lite). So don't count either out.

As for the DS battery life question. For DS Phat (original)I'd say >10hrs. It will get more if you don't use the back light (which I don't recommend) or play only GBA games. DS lite has an adjustable brightness for it's backlight, which severely effects battery life. Maximum brightness gives ~6 hrs, but this setting is really only usful when in sunlight. I can't comment on a lower setting but I'm sure it's max life is similiar to that of a Phat.

[Combine Hybrid]

A good read.

http://www.gwn.com/articles/article.php/id/747/

The PSP is no where close to where it should be in terms of a media player or a game console.

By the way, Nintendo already won handheld war in this year. I mean the sales gap between DS Lite and PSP is unimaginable.

[AmishSlayer]

I can't comment on a lower setting but I'm sure it's max life is similiar to that of a Phat.

I finally killed my DS Lite battery after 14-15 hours of use on the lowest brightness settting (which is perfectly visible unless you're in the sun or something). I'm not sure about the setting(s) between lowest and highest.