View Full Version : Okay, are you sure that games in USA would really export to other country?
bbson john
10-06-2006, 10:56 AM
I live in Hong Kong; I have waited weeks for SiN Episodes and it never comes out. Also, I cannot see HL: Episode either. Are all the games-makers complicit with Steam and just let their game sold via Steam???
I grow impatient.
Kyorisu
10-06-2006, 11:48 AM
They do, just depends. I'm not sure on the details of a boxed sin copy as I couldn't find one down here. I do however have a boxed copy of episode 1.
Mr Stabby
10-06-2006, 01:46 PM
western FPS don't always get shipped to asia, as they tend not to sell well
Lucid
10-06-2006, 02:14 PM
Just get it through Steam?
$kelet0r
10-06-2006, 02:16 PM
blame it on the korean/japanese/chinese fetish for weird anime RPGs
StardogChampion
10-06-2006, 02:56 PM
I live in Hong Kong; I have waited weeks for SiN Episodes and it never comes out. Also, I cannot see HL: Episode either. Are all the games-makers complicit with Steam and just let their game sold via Steam???
I grow impatient.
Just buy it from Steam. Steam isn't for ordering boxed copies of games, it's for downloading games right onto your hard-drive.
bbson john
11-06-2006, 03:22 AM
Just buy it from Steam. Steam isn't for ordering boxed copies of games, it's for downloading games right onto your hard-drive.
My money will be certainly stolen if I do it on my computer. I cannot sure whether there is any programme like Trojan Horse.
Mechagodzilla
11-06-2006, 03:29 AM
Steam isn't a virus program and Valve cannot steal your money unless they'd like a federal investigation on their hands.
bbson john
11-06-2006, 03:33 AM
Steam isn't a virus program and Valve cannot steal your money unless they'd like a federal investigation on their hands.
Steam is safe, but not my computer. Some hostile programmes tend to mark down what keys I have typed, so that hacker can get my card numbers and password via that.
Lucid
11-06-2006, 03:40 AM
Than do a virus scan / spyware scan / malware scan. :|
Get rid of all the nasties.
bbson john
11-06-2006, 03:54 AM
Than do a virus scan / spyware scan / malware scan. :|
Get rid of all the nasties.
Where can I get those free?
Anthraxxx
11-06-2006, 04:30 AM
google for...
AVG free
Spybot Search & Destroy
Ad-Aware
I've found those three to be a pretty effective combo....
spookymooky
11-06-2006, 04:56 AM
The straight to the point language is mildly creepy.
"I grow impatient."
DiSTuRbEd
11-06-2006, 05:15 AM
Steam is safe, but not my computer. Some hostile programmes tend to mark down what keys I have typed, so that hacker can get my card numbers and password via that.
If you have a keylogger on your pc why not just format it and start fresh then buy off Steam?
If you have a keylogger on your pc why not just format it and start fresh then buy off Steam?
QFT
Unless you really know what you're doing, best bet if you have any serious threats on your computer (ex. trojans / keyloggers) is to format and put in a fresh copy. Just remember to back up important documents and you'll be fine...
:thumbs:
bbson john
11-06-2006, 07:08 AM
QFT
Unless you really know what you're doing, best bet if you have any serious threats on your computer (ex. trojans / keyloggers) is to format and put in a fresh copy. Just remember to back up important documents and you'll be fine...
:thumbs:
When I back it up to any other hard disc, it infected the new one. So when I put those data back to my new OS, the virus re-occupys my pc.
MultiVaC
11-06-2006, 07:09 AM
Yeah, really, if you have trojans and keyloggers you simply shouldn't be thinking about new games until your computer is clean. Your first priority should be to get rid of that stuff, and the only foolproof way to do it is to format. You should probably get a firewall after that's done, and just be careful what sites you visit and download from.
When I back it up to any other hard disc, it infected the new one. So when I put those data back to my new OS, the virus re-occupys my pc.
In that case, you've got yourself into some deep shit. Can you afford to just reformat with nothing backed up? If there isn't any absolute necessities then I'd just throw in a fresh copy. You could alternatively figure out what you're infected with and google for help.
Apocalypse89
11-06-2006, 10:39 AM
If you download a firewall like ZoneAlarm and block internet access to the spyware programs, then they can't send their info back to the hackers and no one is getting your private information.
Unless they manage to hide themselves "into" normal, everyday programs, in which case you're ****ed.
bbson john
11-06-2006, 02:04 PM
If you download a firewall like ZoneAlarm and block internet access to the spyware programs, then they can't send their info back to the hackers and no one is getting your private information.
Unless they manage to hide themselves "into" normal, everyday programs, in which case you're ****ed.
I cannot take the risk. I have downloaded so many programmes. Although these are normal and usual programmes, I don't know whether the sites, from which I downloaded programmes, are clean. There may be hidden virus within the normal programme. Viruses advance themselves faster than anti-virus programmes. They may, really, convert themselves into normal programmes(I have seem virus hiding in a image file).
Moreover, I cannot format my hard disc. If I do so, I have to download the whole steam, other games and programmes, like firefox and Office, again. Also, I cannot fully switch my new system into current settings. Formating the hard disc takes time also(reinstall the OS). What is more is that I have a lot of essays written by myself. They are invaluable. I cannot afford non-backup reinstallion. Formating Hard disc should not be a choice.
p.s. I have no money to buy firewall.
StardogChampion
11-06-2006, 02:23 PM
http://www.lavasoft.de/software/adaware
http://www.safer-networking.org/en/download/index.html
http://www.avast.com
bbson john
11-06-2006, 02:31 PM
I have an idea. Why don't the bank phone the buyer so that the buyer can directly confirm every internet order? If so, I will not fear to buy game via Internet. And the hacker can do nothing even they get my credit card number.
http://www.lavasoft.de/software/adaware
http://www.safer-networking.org/en/download/index.html
http://www.avast.com
Which one is better?
Shippi
11-06-2006, 05:03 PM
What's with the weird way you're talking, bbson_john?
It's a little creepy
D:
Kangy
11-06-2006, 06:28 PM
He's your stalker.
:ssh:
Solaris
11-06-2006, 06:53 PM
He's kathakasungs son D:
I have an idea. Why don't the bank phone the buyer so that the buyer can directly confirm every internet order? If so, I will not fear to buy game via Internet. And the hacker can do nothing even they get my credit card number.
Which one is better?
No, because you'll need a Steam login and that can be stolen. Formatting a disc takes around an hour (usually less). Re-downloading firefox, microsoft office, etc shouldn't be a problem. Those word documents, what I'd suggest is copy / paste the text and e-mail them to yourself. Just dedicate an afternoon or so to completely fix your computer, otherwise you're just putting anything you do on that computer in jeoparody.
phantomdesign
12-06-2006, 03:32 AM
Than do a virus scan / spyware scan / malware scan. :|
Get rid of all the nasties.
and use a firewall, that way if any nasties sneak onto your computer you can at least block them from accessing the internet.
What's with the weird way you're talking, bbson_john?
It's a little creepy
D:
He's from Hong Kong :P
His language is probably scrabbled together from various cliche' hollywood films, hence the melodramatic tone. That's pretty impressive :)
DiSTuRbEd
12-06-2006, 03:43 AM
It's a little creepy
I'm stalking you, my pet.
bbson john
12-06-2006, 06:21 AM
Thank you for all the people who obliged. Where can I get a list in which there are locations that the games are going to export to?
He's kathakasungs son
Here is not an appropriate place for discussing the way I speak. Yet, I am curious. Tell me, if you can answer, what is a kathakasung? What lies beneath the word "kathakasung"?
^
Dude, clean up your PC before you play games. If you're infected with a any significant malware, then games should be on the last thing you'd want to do.
MultiVaC
12-06-2006, 07:11 AM
Even if you can find a boxed copy you will still have to create a Steam accout, which the keylogger will get your password to and your games will be stolen. Get rid of the malware.
bbson john
12-06-2006, 07:17 AM
Keylogger is only used by mature hackers. Mature hackers do not play game. They take money for buying others, not games.
MultiVaC
12-06-2006, 07:19 AM
Keyloggers were used by the hackers that stole the HL2 source code. So no, keyloggers are not just used by mature hackers.
Reaktor4
12-06-2006, 07:37 AM
While youre typing in your credit card details, just randomly click the task bar and type letters/numbers, then type in a couple more credit card numbers, then a few more randoms etc etc. but click a lot too... that way it would be impossible to tell what your details are if someone reads a log of what you typed (which is extremely unlikely anyway). Oh and do random spaces too.
Heres an example:
Name: hugh jass
Address: 123 fake street
CC number: 85674595854
Key log:
dsb s3489hugsdhdakjajdjsdairk dfs s389239 8jkjs 1sd3osi323sdjk89faw3 9ioweksd ihsducme strdfjkdfeejdf irt4894702 39018532 jhs dh hunj6few 7452 3dfjs9877 e37287566848 823 754
Danimal
12-06-2006, 07:38 AM
You could always unplug yourself from the intertr0n, type in your credit card number, then plug yourself back in and press Enter. D:
Reaktor4
12-06-2006, 07:46 AM
steam might make you log in and start over again though
Danimal
12-06-2006, 07:48 AM
Type it in Notepad without the internet, then copy and paste it.
By the way i've never ordered games off Steam itself, so I don't know how the process works.
Reaktor4
12-06-2006, 07:54 AM
Type it in Notepad without the internet, then copy and paste it.
By the way i've never ordered games off Steam itself, so I don't know how the process works.
Well the windows clipboard isnt encrypted.. it would be easy to add anything on there to a log whenever you press paste. Actually with a keylogger it would be being logged as you type, so thats not very useful. Diy excryption like i described above is the only way youre gonna beat a keylogger.
bbson john
12-06-2006, 08:49 AM
Heres an example:
Name: hugh jass
Address: 123 fake street
CC number: 85674595854
Key log:
dsb s3489hugsdhdakjajdjsdairk dfs s389239 8jkjs 1sd3osi323sdjk89faw3 9ioweksd ihsducme strdfjkdfeejdf irt4894702 39018532 jhs dh hunj6few 7452 3dfjs9877 e37287566848 823 754
So, what I have typed indeed is "dsb s3489hugsdhdak...". How can I extract the useful letters back to the bar?
Reaktor4
12-06-2006, 09:06 AM
In the steam credit card form, you type only the real details, or else it wont work. But as you are typing, sometimes click the taskbar (the gray windows bar at the bottom of your screen) and type random stuff, and then go back to the steam form and type in some more real stuff. That way you fill the form in, but if everything you type is copied to a log, nobody who reads the log can work out your real information, because in the log your real information is hidden (in small pieces, if you frequently switch between the taskbar and steam), within a long string of randomness. Understand now?
bbson john
12-06-2006, 09:17 AM
In the steam credit card form, you type only the real details, or else it wont work. But as you are typing, sometimes click the taskbar (the gray windows bar at the bottom of your screen) and type random stuff, and then go back to the steam form and type in some more real stuff. That way you fill the form in, but if everything you type is copied to a log, nobody who reads the log can work out your real information, because in the log your real information is hidden (in small pieces, if you frequently switch between the taskbar and steam), within a long string of randomness. Understand now?
They can detect your mouse button
Reaktor4
12-06-2006, 09:22 AM
Yes, if you only clicked once on the taskbar and once on steam, they could tell what was real and what wasnt because it would be seperated by mouse clicks. But i said earlier, do lots of random clicking (and spaces) in between typing so they cant tell.
Danimal
12-06-2006, 10:09 AM
Or just scan your computer. One way or the other.
Lucid
12-06-2006, 12:20 PM
Take your computer, throw it out the window, and get a new one if you are incapable of cleaning it up. :|
phantomdesign
12-06-2006, 03:07 PM
Take your computer, throw it out the window, and get a new one if you are incapable of cleaning it up. :|
Ha ha. Only problem is he'd probably get it infected again.
Take your computer, throw it out the window, and get a new one if you are incapable of cleaning it up. :|
So true, I don't understand the logic of people at times...
"Hm... it looks like my comps filled with trojans and keyloggers!"
"Oh well, maybe killing combine will fix it!"
I'm guessing this will come back to bite him in the ass big time.
Sin episodes wasnt worth it anyway
StardogChampion
13-06-2006, 02:57 AM
Which one is better?
Get all 3.
bbson john
13-06-2006, 06:22 AM
Sin episodes wasnt worth it anyway
D:
sinkoman
13-06-2006, 06:37 AM
D:
You sound like a lazy baboon
ZOMG I CAN'T DOWNLOAD FIREFOX AGAIN!
_Z_Ryuken
13-06-2006, 06:42 AM
Silly people and their insecurities...
Unless someone is using your computer there can't be any keylogging or other data stealing apps on it...
Even if there was, there are ways of typing as to make the data useless. (;
Stingey
13-06-2006, 03:37 PM
In Hongkong lost Yoda son lives.
ericms
14-06-2006, 12:17 AM
Keylogger is only used by mature hackers. Mature hackers do not play game. They take money for buying others, not games.
Hey, I wrote a keylogger in C that was pretty neat. It would store everything in a buffer and every so many kilobytes email the data to you. It also hid itself after it was ran and would store itself in the reigstry (CurrentVersion/Run) so it would run on boot. The only problem with it was that the actual logging of the keys was messed up. It was too sensitive and when someone would press a key it would record it like 8 times. This has made me want to go back and fix it up.
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