Wii and Gamecube graphics side by side comparisons

[CptStern]

http://gamerfrance.verygames.net/wii/comparwii.jpg

side by side you can see the huge differences

[DeusExMachina]

Pretty sure some of those are pre-rendered.

[Javert]

Shaders ftw.

[Shamrock]

I think its obvious the Nintendo Wii is a lot better graphically.

[Reginald]

Pretty sure some of those are pre-rendered.

Actually there is footage of people playing the top one and the others are all clearly footage from SSBB in game. Because the pre-rendered of SSBB looks much better.

I've already TRIED to do this by comparing the footage of Sunshine to Galaxy but it's hard when one is running on a nice TV and one is on a low quality monitor. :(

[AmishSlayer]

Pretty sure some of those are pre-rendered.

Those are all actually ingame for SSBB and Super Mario Galaxy

[Gray Fox]

The zelda one is BS, that looks more like a pic from N64, and isn't the right one from twilights princess which is also a gamecube title.
As far the rest, it's not surprising Wii has come 5 years after the cube, naturally it should have better graphics.

[DeusExMachina]

Actually just that first Wii pic. That's in-game?

[AmishSlayer]

Actually just that first Wii pic. That's in-game?
The 1st shot is from Super Mario Galaxy, there's a few short vids over at IGN of that exact part in gameplay.

EDIT: Also that Zelda pic is pretty accurate. This is a screencap from the ingame trailer of SSBB of Zelda.

http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/8210/zelda8kp.th.jpg (http://img181.imageshack.us/my.php?image=zelda8kp.jpg)

[weskerQ8]

yea absolutely , nintendo said " The Revolution will be powerfull 5 times than the GameCube "

[Mechagodzilla]

The characters aren't really what got the bulk of the improvement though.

Melee had extremely detailed characters, but they had to sacrifice the backgrounds and other stuff somewhat as a result.
The backgrounds look like they're getting the bulk of the improvement now.

[clarky003]

5 times betteruooo!

I like it, out of all the consoles its actually the most tempting to me.

[VictimOfScience]

Obviously its better. I don't know what people even argue this for. Now if devs can successfully merge the innovative new control scheme with their vision of stupendous gaming, then this will be the console to beat IMHO.

Personally, I am constantly switching back and forth as to which one console I want to get. My favorite franchises and new titles will be on the PS3, but its so bloody expensive that I just can't justify it right now. 360 too will have some really terrific games coming out later this year and into next, but it too is a little too pricey atm. The Wii is my best bet--that and a DS for the ultimate in fun. Zelda and Galaxy almost warrant the purchase alone!

[JNightshade]

I don't even have to deliberate anymore :D

[Ren.182]

All of those Wii screens are in-game.
I actually like the graphics a lot... not of this over exposed HDR with motion bluur everywhere with lots of explosions. That kinda stuff doesn't make a good game... just makes it pretty.

[spookymooky]

Mario looks...really creepy. He seems to get progressively scarier the more detail they put into him.

[DeusExMachina]

Wait until the next one, he'll look like a true pedophile ;).

[sea]

yea absolutely , nintendo said " The Revolution will be powerfull 5 times than the GameCube "No, they didn't. They said two to three times more powerful, and that looks exactly like what we're getting.

The zelda one is BS, that looks more like a pic from N64, and isn't the right one from twilights princess which is also a gamecube title.
As far the rest, it's not surprising Wii has come 5 years after the cube, naturally it should have better graphics.The Zelda picture looks like it's from the N64?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/1003/acious/zelda-compare.jpg

Yeah, not much an improvement at all.

The picture on the left-hand side of the original post's image is how Link looks in Super Smash Bros. Melee, and it's still a pretty big upgrade to the N64 model.

[torso boy]

yea absolutely , nintendo said " The Revolution will be powerfull 5 times than the GameCube "
They said 2 times more powerful. :\

[Reginald]

They said 2 times more powerful. :\

Some of it looks better than that though. The shinyness of the oil in the shot of Galaxy is really great. XD

[kupocake]

Not entirely convinced. The image compares early GC releases with early Wii releases, and then releases that take two entirely different art-styles. Short of comparing Wind-Waker Link with Twilight Princess link, Super Smash Bros Link still doesn't make sense because the developers won't go mad with details in a game that sees Link fighting the traditionally cartoon-style nintendo characters that are in SSB. Compare those pictures with http://uk.media.cube.ign.com/media/572/572738/img_2785376.html . Sure, the wii version looks a lot better, but the Gamecube is capable of far, far better graphics than the cleary biased "comparrison" in the first post suggests.

Of course, at the end of the day, Wii looking better than Gamecube is no more exciting to most of us than it trumping the Sega Master System or Atari Lynx. Comparing it to a past console is just adknowledging that the goal-posts of the present have moved so far out of reach that there is no point. If my dad can beat your grandad in a fight, that doesn't hide the fact that everyone else's dad can knock him flat twenty times over.

[Gray Fox]

No, they didn't. They said two to three times more powerful, and that looks exactly like what we're getting.

The Zelda picture looks like it's from the N64?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/1003/acious/zelda-compare.jpg

Yeah, not much an improvement at all.

The picture on the left-hand side of the original post's image is how Link looks in Super Smash Bros. Melee, and it's still a pretty big upgrade to the N64 model.
The right picture of Link is almost identical to zelda twilight princes that was shown for the gamecube.
You can't compare link from a fastpaced multiplayer fighting game to link from a singleplayer adventure.

[AmishSlayer]

Not entirely convinced. The image compares early GC releases with early Wii releases, and then releases that take two entirely different art-styles. Short of comparing Wind-Waker Link with Twilight Princess link, Super Smash Bros Link still doesn't make sense because the developers won't go mad with details in a game that sees Link fighting the traditionally cartoon-style nintendo characters that are in SSB. Compare those pictures with http://uk.media.cube.ign.com/media/572/572738/img_2785376.html . Sure, the wii version looks a lot better, but the Gamecube is capable of far, far better graphics than the cleary biased "comparrison" in the first post suggests.

Of course, at the end of the day, Wii looking better than Gamecube is no more exciting to most of us than it trumping the Sega Master System or Atari Lynx. Comparing it to a past console is just adknowledging that the goal-posts of the present have moved so far out of reach that there is no point. If my dad can beat your grandad in a fight, that doesn't hide the fact that everyone else's dad can knock him flat twenty times over.

This isn't directed just at you kupo - I just have to say it anyways since your comments are leaning towards a view that I HATE.

I just don't see why people have to be sold on graphics. There's been SO MUCH talk since unveiling of these latest consoles and 90% of it is about this graphics war. WHO GIVES A SHIT?!

GRAPHICS != GAMEPLAY

I'm just sick of everybody flocking to the system with the best graphics calling it next-gen while thinking the Wii isn't next-gen because the graphics aren't a massive leap. The Wii is the only console taking a REAL step forward in changing the way we play games. The other consoles are just taking baby steps in technology and enchancing various features of the console (like all of the additions to XBL - PS3 supporting blu-ray).

I bet there's tons of people that would play a game of checkers nonstop if it was photorealistic...

KING ME!

[Raziaar]

I hate how link looks like a damn woman. Why do these anime things always gotta make guys look feminine? I look at my brothers anime games he plays... and I always ask, "Is that a chick?" No... it's a guy, he replies.

[Ikerous]

Hehe, i think someone has a thing for link

[Ren.182]

Well Link has always been in an anime style. It's just Nintendo are using more polygons now which make him have a more human figure but still have an anime face. Anime faces on a human-like figure = girly looking tbh.

I like the new look of the new Zelda game anyway.

[JNightshade]

Originally Posted by Ikerous
Hehe, i think someone has a thing for link


*raises hand*

[Warbie]

Mario looks...really creepy. He seems to get progressively scarier the more detail they put into him.

I agree - one day Mario will be a filthy looking lech :)

[WhiteZero]

Yeah, thats not really an accurate comparison, since the Zelda game's graphics are the same on each system...

[Gray Fox]

This isn't directed just at you kupo - I just have to say it anyways since your comments are leaning towards a view that I HATE.

I just don't see why people have to be sold on graphics. There's been SO MUCH talk since unveiling of these latest consoles and 90% of it is about this graphics war. WHO GIVES A SHIT?!

GRAPHICS != GAMEPLAY

I'm just sick of everybody flocking to the system with the best graphics calling it next-gen while thinking the Wii isn't next-gen because the graphics aren't a massive leap. The Wii is the only console taking a REAL step forward in changing the way we play games. The other consoles are just taking baby steps in technology and enchancing various features of the console (like all of the additions to XBL - PS3 supporting blu-ray).

I bet there's tons of people that would play a game of checkers nonstop if it was photorealistic...

KING ME!

He didn't deserve that comment, he only commented on how unfair the comparison was in his opinion, never did he say that he likes graphics more the gameplay or that graphics alone make the better game. But this thread was started to compare graphics, that someone is only focusing on the graphics side of the Wii in this thread stems from the focus of the topic.

[AmishSlayer]

He didn't deserve that comment, he only commented on how unfair the comparison was in his opinion, never did he say that he likes graphics more the gameplay or that graphics alone make the better game. But this thread was started to compare graphics, that someone is only focusing on the graphics side of the Wii in this thread stems from the focus of the topic.

Well let me quote myself to make this easier.

This isn't directed just at you kupo - I just have to say it anyways since your comments are leaning towards a view that I HATE.

I wasn't directing it at him.

[GhostBoi]

Yeah, thats not really an accurate comparison, since the Zelda game's graphics are the same on each system...

Proof?

[kupocake]

The Wii is the only console taking a REAL step forward in changing the way we play games. The other consoles are just taking baby steps in technology and enchancing various features of the console (like all of the additions to XBL - PS3 supporting blu-ray).
Yes yes, Graphics don't equal good gameplay. I'm nearly as tired of people making the assumption of Graphics = Gameplay as i'm tired of people stating the obvious fact that the assumption has been made :P

The thing is though, Graphics also don't equal bad gameplay. If it wasn't an entirely unquantifiabile set of values, i'd be willing to bet that there will be as many games with great gameplay across all the consoles (Nintendo consoles tend to be more consistant with good gameplay, but are brought down by low output. Playstation and X-Box developers are market spammers, and there are always quality titles amongst the mass). So what then? All three consoles have great gameplay, so long as you buy the right titles. So why not have the console with the better graphics? Sure the Wii will cost less than the others, but why not go for an even older console if you're hung-up on price and don't care about graphics?.

Argueably it's different this time round and Nintendo are clawing back with their innovative control method... that Sony have too (though I hear it's inferior in the PS3's controller)... but I'll believe it when I see it. Nintendo are as guilty of marketing rhetoric as anyone else, so who is to say we're really getting the next innovation in gaming? I mean, When you think about it, is a motion-sensored controller all that different from the PC's Mouse and Keyboard combination? Does swatting a little box in the air really open a further dimension of immersion?

[DrDevin]

Yes yes, Graphics don't equal good gameplay. I'm nearly as tired of people making the assumption of Graphics = Gameplay as i'm tired of people stating the obvious fact that the assumption has been made :P

The thing is though, Graphics also don't equal bad gameplay. If it wasn't an entirely unquantifiabile set of values, i'd be willing to bet that there will be as many games with great gameplay across all the consoles (Nintendo consoles tend to be more consistant with good gameplay, but are brought down by low output. Playstation and X-Box developers are market spammers, and there are always quality titles amongst the mass). So what then? All three consoles have great gameplay, so long as you buy the right titles. So why not have the console with the better graphics? Sure the Wii will cost less than the others, but why not go for an even older console if you're hung-up on price and don't care about graphics?.

Argueably it's different this time round and Nintendo are clawing back with their innovative control method... that Sony have too (though I hear it's inferior in the PS3's controller)... but I'll believe it when I see it. Nintendo are as guilty of marketing rhetoric as anyone else, so who is to say we're really getting the next innovation in gaming? I mean, When you think about it, is a motion-sensored controller all that different from the PC's Mouse and Keyboard combination? Does swatting a little box in the air really open a further dimension of immersion?

Watch the Nintendo conference:

http://media.revolution.ign.com/articles/706/706429/vids_1.html

Steam it for free from that link.

The remote is not just like a mouse (although it has close to the same precision as one). Watch them play a fishing game and flick the remote to cast, bring it up to hook the fish then reel it in. You can also see them play tennis and realistically serve and swing. Racing games will be able to use the remote sideways to recreate the feel of a steering wheel or tilt it to lean into corners (ie motorcycle).

Not to mention the visuals should be better then Doom 3 or HL2 (both of which run on the XBOX) for cheap. I am looking forward to the wii a lot more now after seeing all the new media.

[WhiteZero]

Proof?
Have you even seen the Zelda screens for GC? Or are you just too lazy to look for em...
http://www.gamespot.com/gamecube/action/thelegendofzelda/screenindex.html

[sea]

Have you even seen the Zelda screens for GC? Or are you just too lazy to look for em...
http://www.gamespot.com/gamecube/action/thelegendofzelda/screenindex.htmlAccording to various sources I've seen, there will be small graphical differences between the Wii and GameCube versions of Zelda. Apparently the GameCube version will not run in widescreen, and will be missing some effects like bloom lighting and projected shadows. However, the models and textures are identical between both versions.

Also, you can't compare the two versions because Nintendo has yet to release official screenshots from the Wii version, or new ones from the GameCube version, which has also seen an upgrade since the last media release.

Argueably it's different this time round and Nintendo are clawing back with their innovative control method... that Sony have too (though I hear it's inferior in the PS3's controller)... but I'll believe it when I see it. Nintendo are as guilty of marketing rhetoric as anyone else, so who is to say we're really getting the next innovation in gaming? I mean, When you think about it, is a motion-sensored controller all that different from the PC's Mouse and Keyboard combination? Does swatting a little box in the air really open a further dimension of immersion?On the contrary, the PS3's controller is the one that lacks functionality. Nintendo have incorporated full 3D motion sensing into the Wiimote. That is, it senses not only where the controller is pointed, but how far from the sensor bar, its rotation, and a complex series of motions that can be emulated exactly on screen. Meanwhile, the left-hand nunchuck controller features an accelerometer, which detects movement, but cannot detect relative positioning, pointing, etc. Think of it as a tilt sensor. The PS3's controller only contains an accelerometer, and therefore will lack the pointing features of the Wii controller. While you could have the tilt sensor used in a racing game, you would not get a full range of sensitivity, but only whether or not the controller was pointing "left" or "right." Therefore, steering would be imprecise as you could not control its degree. In that aspect, it would be very much like using arrow keys rather than a mouse. The same racing game using the Wiimote would be able to offer real driving simulation, perfectly emulating a steering wheel. Naturally, the PS3's controller wouldn't be suited to a first-person shooter because you could not actually point at your targets, nor could you use the controller to properly simulate a game of tennis (though programmers could potentially do this, it would be very awkward and imprecise).

[Captain M4d]

Nintendo is too good for that prerendered bullshit.

[kupocake]

On the contrary, the PS3's controller is the one that lacks functionality.
Lovely. Now read my post again. That was what I said.

[sea]

Lovely. Now read my post again. That was what I said.Argueably it's different this time round and Nintendo are clawing back with their innovative control method... that Sony have too (though I hear it's inferior in the PS3's controller)...Really?

[Cole]

inferior means worse.... as in (though I hear it's worse in the PS3's controller)

[Sparda]

Oh god Link looks frigen sweet.

They could be better, i meen there not the best.

-that is all

[sea]

Oh God, I'm stupid. I had read that quote as "inferior to the PS3's controller." Ignore everything I've ever said. :dork:

[theotherguy]

Have you even seen the Zelda screens for GC? Or are you just too lazy to look for em...
http://www.gamespot.com/gamecube/action/thelegendofzelda/screenindex.html

still, youre comparing the last game in a generation to the first in the next generation, both of which will be released fairly close to each other.

[kupocake]

Oh God, I'm stupid. I had read that quote as "inferior to the PS3's controller." Ignore everything I've ever said. :dork:
To be honest, It was a weird way of phrasing it, and without too much attention most people just fill in the small gaps with what they expect to be there :P

[AmishSlayer]

To be honest, It was a weird way of phrasing it, and without too much attention most people just fill in the small gaps with what they expect to be there :P

Knd f lk hw ppl cn prtty mch tll wht 'm syng whn thr's n vwls

(with like 90% accuracty anyways)

:P

[Parlez]

The textures are awesome on the Wii it looks like. For example look at Mario's pants how real they look. I don't think these graphics are anything to get all exited about personally.