Smash Bros. Brawl (Wii) EDIT:SCREENS

[torso boy]

http://revolution.ign.com/articles/707/707504p1.html
Nintendo just pulled a fast one on us. At an after-hours press briefing a mere minute ago, the company pulled another ace out of its sleeve: Smash Bros. Brawl -- the next installment in Nintendo's popular Super Smash Bros. series.

Details are just now rolling in, but we have confirmed the following playable characters:

- Pit (Kid Icarus)
- Solid Snake (Metal Gear Solid)
- Zero Suit Samus (Metroid)
- Meta-Knight (Kirby)

More as it breaks.YOU HAVE GOT TO BE ****ING KIDDING ME.

http://www.gamespot.com/wii/action/supersmashbros/screenindex.html?sid=6150531
http://i.i.com.com/cnet.g2/images/2006/129/reviews/928518_20060510_screen001.jpg
http://i.i.com.com/cnet.g2/images/2006/129/reviews/928518_20060510_screen005.jpg
http://i.i.com.com/cnet.g2/images/2006/129/reviews/928518_20060510_screen006.jpg
http://i.i.com.com/cnet.g2/images/2006/129/reviews/928518_20060510_screen007.jpg

[AmishSlayer]

F*cking awesome

[armanguy]

sweeet! anyone else dissapointed at the graphics?

[sea]

This has got to be some kind of joke.

sweeet! anyone else dissapointed at the graphics?They... haven't shown any yet.

[armanguy]

no i mean about the wii's graphics on the games
i saw that new mario game it looks so bad its like a gamecube game.

[VictimOfScience]

Oh man! If this is true this is going to amazing!!

Plus, it means that the powers that be haven't forgotten about our dear sweet Kid Icarus...incredibly awesome news indeed!!!:O

[AmishSlayer]

no i mean about the wii's graphics on the games
i saw that new mario game it looks so bad its like a gamecube game.

Give me one reason why that matters when you're playing.

[torso boy]

no i mean about the wii's graphics on the games
i saw that new mario game it looks so bad its like a gamecube game.
WTF are you smoking? The new Mario looks ****ing amazing.

Snake's Down-B should be the carboard box :P .

The only thing that dissapoints me is zero suit samus...another repeat character? :|

[sea]

no i mean about the wii's graphics on the games
i saw that new mario game it looks so bad its like a gamecube game.If you can't tell the difference between Super Mario Galaxy and Sunshine then you need some new eyes. Nintendo delivered exactly what they said they would, so stop complaining. It's not like you got ripped off.

[Cole]

no i mean about the wii's graphics on the games
i saw that new mario game it looks so bad its like a gamecube game.
Oh know the new mario game dosn't have Gears of War graphics....but hey all the reviews have said they absolutely ****ing loved it and it's the kind of game that takes forever to get bored from.

Yep im dissapointed with it. I play Mario 64 to this day on an emulator cuz I lost my N64(lol). It just dosn't really get boring. I play this game more than UT2004 or HL2 or CS:S. It dosn't have blood and guts but it is addictive. It dosn't have tons of shooting but it is addicitve. I mean hell I just put on a controller and sit back and play it. Does Diablo 2 have umm...anywhere near that good of graphics?

Yet it's addictive....when you get around all the 10 year olds and it's play right(not rushing to ending and cowing n baaling to 99 and repeating).

Or Starcraft? Are it's graphics anywhere near addicitve. Yet i can go on there and i'll see between 25k to 50k players up to 150k at times. That game is over 8 years old.

Sorry if that was a bit over the top but hey... Addicitve Gameplay > Graphics.

[armanguy]

yeah i guess gameplay over graphics but i thought they would do more with the graphics :(

[torso boy]

http://www.joystiq.com/media/2006/05/DSC_3379.jpg
Screenshot like substance.
EDIT: OMFG SCREENS

http://www.engadget.com/media/2006/05/DSC_3367.jpg
http://www.engadget.com/media/2006/05/DSC_3370.jpg
http://www.engadget.com/media/2006/05/DSC_3380.jpg
http://www.engadget.com/media/2006/05/DSC_3366.jpg
http://www.engadget.com/media/2006/05/DSC_3371.jpg
http://www.engadget.com/media/2006/05/DSC_3388.jpg
I ****ING GUESSED IT!!!


EDIT: OMFG MORE
http://www.engadget.com/media/2006/05/DSC_3374.jpg
http://www.engadget.com/media/2006/05/DSC_3368.jpg

http://www.joystiq.com/2006/05/10/super-smash-bros-brawl-revealed-for-wii-featuring-solid-snake/
D: 2007

[Malfunction]

That looks GREAT. Graphics look FINE for Nintendo, and LMFAO @ Snake & the box hahaha, good call.

[JNightshade]

Hahhahaa YES! Snake? That's so completely kickass. I think I just had an orgasm :O

[VictimOfScience]

I don't care who you are--does it get any better than this??? Look at how terrific everyone looks and the environments looks kick-ass as well!! The Wii just keeps getting better and better!

(I still long for indie devs to get some point and click adventures going on it though. :E)

[Mechagodzilla]

Is that Kid Icarus in the group pose? :P

[sea]

Too bad this is not going to come around until next year, but damn, there's plenty more to fill the time in between. :D

And the graphics look fantastic. Super Smash Bros. Melee had some of the best graphics on the GameCube, I think, so this game definitely doesn't disappoint. In fact, it looks just like the GameCube game with more detailed environments.

EDIT: And that statement is further backed by the new screenshots. :)

[torso boy]

New, HQ screens.
http://www.gamespot.com/wii/action/supersmashbros/screenindex.html?sid=6150531
http://i.i.com.com/cnet.g2/images/2006/129/reviews/928518_20060510_screen001.jpg
http://i.i.com.com/cnet.g2/images/2006/129/reviews/928518_20060510_screen005.jpg
http://i.i.com.com/cnet.g2/images/2006/129/reviews/928518_20060510_screen006.jpg
http://i.i.com.com/cnet.g2/images/2006/129/reviews/928518_20060510_screen007.jpg

[theotherguy]

ah yes, I love it when new nintendo consoles are released. they just have so many great first party franchises that they own! The inclusion of solid snake hs really surprised me. I bet he would own everyone with high-powered rifles :afro: they probably toned him down abit like they did samus, but still, that's incredibly awesome!

[sea]

Toned down? Samus still has her suit in the new game, apparently. It seems to be two separate characters, or at least a new costume. Snake also isn't toned down. He doesn't have any guns because they wouldn't fit in with the rest of the game. It's not really a violence thing, because Super Smash Bros. is already pretty violent as it is.

[armanguy]

imma go play some super smash bros :P hahaah well for the graphics they look ok nothing that would make my jaw drop but one thing i think they should do is add some real hairto mario and make him less plasticky same with pikachu!

[torso boy]

VIDEO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:
http://media.revolution.ign.com/media/748/748545/vids_1.html

[Naudian]

...

Hmm...mario just never did it for me :\

'cept this one mario party game I played, good fun with a bunch of friends :D

But this, meh.

[AmishSlayer]

...

Hmm...mario just never did it for me :\

'cept this one mario party game I played, good fun with a bunch of friends :D

But this, meh.
You're right, youdonotbelonghere. :|

EDIT: Those special attacks look awesome as hell too.

[sea]

That trailer made me wet myself.

[armanguy]

that trailer was pretty cool.

[Asuka]

Wow!

Seriously tho that looks crazy!

[bam23]

I love how they introduced Snake.

[Javert]

Best new console game announcement of E3 2006 so far.

Edit: To clarify.

[torso boy]

Best new console game announcement of 2006 so far.
And it wont come out till 2007 ;(

I'll play the new Mario, whatever else comes up for Wii, and all the gamecube games I missed out on until then.

[Somefool]

With online mode, my life is going to be wasted once I get hands on this...

[Zephos]

*orgasm*

A pity it isn't a launch title D:

I have to get a Wii...hell I'll even camp outside for one :P

[AmishSlayer]

It's a pity this isn't real -

http://c.myspace.com/Groups/00004/26/05/4475062_l.jpg

[PriNcE oF SpAcE]

this game looks like turd...

[AmishSlayer]

this game looks like turd...

har har har.

[dream431ca]

This game will be played forever by me and my group of friend. We still get together to play Super Smash Bros. Melee on GC every saturday..this game will get us together much more often..can't wait.

[Sui]

SOLID SNAKE! AHAHAHAHHAHA! lol

[Ren.182]

:O!!!!
This looks so freaking awesome! New characters rock! There's also may be some talks to get some other characters in too. More characters the better!

And to all you graphics whores. Shut up. :) I like Nintendo's style of graphics.

[Cormeh]

Oh jesus, I thought having three mates round with a few beers and a game of Melee was chaotic enough. Now with the new Wii controls I can see injuries and broken furniture. :D

Nintendo are freakin' winning this console war for me. It's all just so.... FUN!

[Dalamari]

http://revolutionmedia.ign.com/revolution/image/article/707/707560/super-smash-bros-brawl-20060510104822196.jpg

So...Snake is in the new Super Smash Bros?

[Ren.182]

http://revolutionmedia.ign.com/revolution/image/article/707/707560/super-smash-bros-brawl-20060510104822196.jpg

So...Snake is in the new Super Smash Bros?

Yes.

Found and Interview here about Smash Bros. Answers some questions. :)

http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=64601

[Darkside55]

Snake? Who cares about Snake? Pit is in.

Ever since the first Smash Brothers, I waited for Kid Icarus. I wanted him in SSB, I looked for him in Melee. No Pit. And now, here he is, FINALLY. Finally, Kid Icarus in another game.

Sad, then, that I don't give two shits about Wii, and this is new SSB has become far too late for me to care. I fear the only way I'll be playing Pit now is if someone I know picks up this system (unlikely) or if I stand in a game store playing it (likely). But at least he finally gets his due.

[Lt. Drebin]

sweeet! anyone else dissapointed at the graphics?

C'mon, man. Look at the enviroments/backgrounds. Vastly improved from Melee. Look at the scene with Mario running...improved detail on his overalls. The character models are improved. The only thing that looks like it needs work are the textures....they look a little bland. Which is a comon complaint across almost every Wii game I've seen so far.

SSB has alway rocked. Best fighting-game series next to DOA, IMO.

Adding Snake is absolutly classic. But, he seems a bit violent to me....is he gonna be snapping Mario's neck while he's sucking down a few cowboy killers??!! LOL. This game looks great though.

IMO, Nintendo has ABSOLUTLY stolen this entire E3. The games all look truely great and Nintendo is going to give this to all of us at a very reasonable price. Gotta love the big N' right now.

[armanguy]

We still get together to play Super Smash Bros. Melee on GC every saturday...

am i the only one that doesent play games on saturday, everyone know saturdays are for gettin drunk geez!

[Mechagodzilla]

Graphics smaphics. The Super Smash Bros series are simply the most flat-out fun multiplayer console games ever made.

Also, it does in fact look much better than the original:
http://thelightworld.zeldavortex.com/ssbm/ss3.jpg

[VirusType2]

I never thought I would say this, but this game looks fun. That METAKNIGHT (sp?) character looks ****ing fun as balls! I don't think I would buy it, but, I wanna play.

[AmishSlayer]

Oh jesus, I thought having three mates round with a few beers and a game of Melee was chaotic enough. Now with the new Wii controls I can see injuries and broken furniture. :D

They've said there will be no Wii motion-control in Brawl. They said it was taking away from gameplay (I figure due to the already complex nature of control for Smash Bros). Fine by me. I just want my SSB.

[The Mullinator]

They've said there will be no Wii motion-control in Brawl. They said it was taking away from gameplay (I figure due to the already complex nature of control for Smash Bros). Fine by me. I just want my SSB.
I get the feeling that they only would have gone with the Wii controller if they decided for ths SSB to go into a 3d fighting environment.

Anyway, this is definitaly one of the must own games comming this generation. :D

[torso boy]

They've said there will be no Wii motion-control in Brawl. They said it was taking away from gameplay (I figure due to the already complex nature of control for Smash Bros). Fine by me. I just want my SSB.
Though it would have worked well as a replacement for the C-Stick in Melee. :\

[AmishSlayer]

Though it would have worked well as a replacement for the C-Stick in Melee. :\

Well what about doing the regular, strong and smash attacks otherwise? While swinging the controller it'd either have to determine just how fast you're swinging it or you'd need another button to press. Also there's the potentially disorienting combination of jumping into the air, doing an air attack, special air attack then air dodge and then controlling your decent then doing a smash attack all while pressing various buttons and making various waving motions making sure you did the wave just right or else you might do the strong attack instead of the smash or something.

With the complexity of controls already in SSB games I'm not surprised they're keeping the motion control out.

[Mechagodzilla]

Yeah, this 2-D sort of game is where motion control isn't as necessary.

Although it would be pretty awesome having your character jump and flip wherever you gesture.

[Reginald]

I was in the middle of an ICT lesson at school when I found this news out and almost bounced out of my chair.

It is incredibly exciting news and the inclusion of Pit gives way for the major possibility of a new Kid Icarus game for the Wii.
Also it's nice to see the final inclusion of Wario. I was always dissapointed that he was missing from the two previous installments considering he is considered a major character in most other Mario spin off games.
As for Snake, having not played any of the MGS games, I cannot really comment on how thrilled I am. I guess it's an incentive to borrow some of the games off someone before this game comes out.

And, I am also glad that they did not try and tack on motion sensing to a game mechanic that is very near perfect in the first place. I assume it will be able to be played with the new "Classic Controller," so it won't feel like playing with an old game.

Either way, this is possibly the best news revealed outside of the conferences that I have heard so far.

[AmishSlayer]

As for Snake, having not played any of the MGS games, I cannot really comment on how thrilled I am. I guess it's an incentive to borrow some of the games off someone before this game comes out.

And, I am also glad that they did not try and tack on motion sensing to a game mechanic that is very near perfect in the first place. I assume it will be able to be played with the new "Classic Controller," so it won't feel like playing with an old game.

As for MGS, DEFINITELY borrow MGS (or get your hands on Twin Snakes for GC) and play it. Then of course play the subsequent sequels and introduce yourself to some of the best stories ever told in games (if you like modern military settings with conspiracies and twists with some philosophical themes).

[Stigmata]

As for MGS, DEFINITELY borrow MGS (or get your hands on Twin Snakes for GC) and play it. Then of course play the subsequent sequels and introduce yourself to some of the best stories ever told in games (if you like modern military settings with conspiracies and twists with some philosophical themes).And a haphazard collection of the more... interesting... story elements this side of Alice In Wonderland :P

I am absolutely getting a Wii on launch day. Though it's too bad SSBB won't be out then.

[Mechagodzilla]

Hopefully they'll decide to give him the socom or something.

I mean, Fox and Falco got handguns, so I don't see the issue there.


The Metal Gear Solid series is like the best part of every spy/action movie combined, except with a plot that's smarter than them all.

The only thing it doesn't have is aliens. :P

[Ren.182]

The more characters the better tbh. SSB could make any game character fun to fight with. It'd be cool if SEGA and Nintendo work together to get Sonic, Knuckles, Tails, Shadow and some other Sonic series characters into the mix, would be fun :)

What characters would some of you guys like to see added into the brawl? :D

[weskerQ8]

looks freaking hot, i am intending to buy wii for sure

[Vegeta897]

The more characters the better tbh.Quoted for truth one hundred times... They should just have a huge list of characters :D

It would just be so awesome and add so much replayability...

[Ren.182]

Quoted for truth one hundred times... They should just have a huge list of characters :D

It would just be so awesome and add so much replayability...

Agreed. I remember in SSBM i played it so much to complete the game with each character. Still play it every now and then with some friends :)

[Lucid]

Still no Sonic?

D:

[Cormeh]

To be fair, there could be more characters added in the coming months.

[Ren.182]

http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=64601

In that interview they said that there may some more characters on the way now that Snake is in other companies may want to add their characters to the game. I really hope more get added :D

[Lt. Drebin]

How bout one or two of the BattleToads. I vote for Rash and Pimple. WOO.

[Stigmata]

Domo-kun.

[Direwolf]

Oh god yes.
http://www.thegreenhead.com/watercooler/images/domokun_9.jpg

[Reginald]

I vote Jesus.

Then he can smite Luigi.

[Zephos]

http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=64601

In that interview they said that there may some more characters on the way now that Snake is in other companies may want to add their characters to the game. I really hope more get added :D

As long as Master Chief isn't in it...that idea is fine by me :)

[Ren.182]

I'd hate to see Master Chief in SSBB. I just don't think he'd fit in. He hasn't got any melee moves (apart from when he attacks with his weapons) and i don't think he'd fit in with the "cartoony" feel of the game. Snake kinda fits in because the story he comes from is kinda anime inspired (huge robots, exo-skelentons etc etc) and he has melee moves.

Plus Snake is just so much cooler :D

[destrukt]

master chief can punch with his fist while holding the odd ball, and one of his special moves could be to whip out the odd ball and use it to hit people .. i think they'd manage to fit him in, but they won't.

they should do a vote thing on their site, and have like 20 popular characters from games (and maybe even movies, but sort of geeky ones that we'd allow :)).

[VirusType2]

As long as Master Chief isn't in it...that idea is fine by me :)
It would never happen because Microsoft owns Master Chief. He would never show up on a Nintendo until Microsoft stops making consoles, and even then - Microsoft still have 'Games for Windows', so thats why I say it will never happen.

For example, SEGA stopped making game consoles, which is why you see Sonic on the other systems now. Before, when SEGA made consoles, Sonic was their biggest weapon against Nintendo's Mario and never made any appearances on a Playstation or Nintendo.


To be fair, there could be more characters added in the coming months.
Now that Nintendo has decided to 'never turn off' and have built in internet with the Wii, you could see more characters added even after the game hits stores as well. Adding a new character is a ton of work though, so it wouldn't likely be free, but free or not, it's still possible.

[Ren.182]

It would never happen because Microsoft owns Master Chief. He would never show up on a Nintendo until Microsoft stops making consoles, and even then - they still have the PC, so thats why I say it will never happen.

For example, SEGA stopped making game consoles, which is why you see Sonic on the other systems now. Before, when SEGA made consoles, Sonic was their biggest weapon against Nintendo's Mario.

Snake is owned by Konami... he's in the game. :P

Master Cheif could appear in the game if talks between Nintendo and Microsoft allowed it. But i don't think Nintendo would see Master Cheif to be a good addition to the cast tbh.

[VirusType2]

Snake is owned by Konami... he's in the game. :P

Master Cheif could appear in the game if talks between Nintendo and Microsoft allowed it. But i don't think Nintendo would see Master Cheif to be a good addition to the cast tbh.
Konami doesn't make consoles. Konami will make a game for any profitable system. Sometimes a console manufacturer will "bribe" a developer to keep a game exclusive, and sometimes the developer just doesn't have the resources, or the nerve, or doesn't see it as profitable enough to create a game for certain consoles.

So just because Konami is creating a game for the PS3, that alone doesn't stop them from making the game for other consoles, it's something else, like what I have mentioned. So you might see Metal Gear for an Xbox console or a Nintendo console, if this doesn't violate any financial agreement with Sony that they probably have made.

It's different because Microsoft wants you to buy a Microsoft console. If the only thing you like about Microsoft is Master Chief, and now you can play master chief on a Nintendo, why would you buy a Microsoft console?:dork:

It surprises me that someone here might not know this - this is video game 101 here, but I have been playing video games and reading about the video game industry since the early 1980's, while many of you weren't even born yet, so I can understand.

[Ravioli]

looks good, but the Antilasing (sp?) looks terrible

[Reginald]

looks good, but the Antilasing (sp?) looks terrible

I dunno. It doesn't look as bad as some titles for even the 360. And considering SSBB still has just under a year of development time left, don't count the game out just yet.

[CrazyHarij]

the graphics are a joke

[Zeus]

sweeet! anyone else dissapointed at the graphics?

Not at all. They are adequate for a next-gen system, not to mention graphics to me are a pretty small factor in buying the game. Gameplay is what matters

[hungryduck]

damnit I want a Wii now

[Stigmata]

Not at all. They are adequate for a next-gen system, not to mention graphics to me are a pretty small factor in buying the game. Gameplay is what mattersThe graphics on the Wii aren't next-gen quality at all. They're, at best, a step above Chaos Theory on the Xbox.

But it's gameplay that counts, and if the demos are any indication, Wii is going to be the best console to come out in a long time.