New UT2007 video demos

[Quixoticism]

Gametrailers.com has two new videos of Unreal Tournament 2007. I assure you, this really is new stuff here.
The new Link gun is seen and it is quite awesome. The Shockrifle has had some added effects, though the combo isn't as cool as it used to be imo, and the rocket launcher returns(yet unchanged).
It's mostly a quick run around the robot factory level and it looks amazing!

The video comes in two parts which you can see here: Part 1 (http://www.gametrailers.com/umwatcher.php?id=748) Part 2 (http://www.gametrailers.com/umwatcher.php?id=811)

[B_MAN]

that's pretty

[Pesmerga]

that's pretty

awesome

[Asuka]

Wow! and again! wow... and again! W!O!W!

[JNightshade]

That looks goddamn incredible. Too bad my videocard doesn't support HDR ;(

[Pesmerga]

That looks goddamn incredible. Too bad my videocard doesn't support HDR ;(

How do you wake up in the morning knowing that your day is going to full of non-adjusting light levels?

[JNightshade]

I... I don't know. Somehow I manage it. It's... it's so hard though... I ask myself every day why it had to be me, of all the people, me whose video card only supports Pixel Shader 2.0. Perhaps, one day, the good lord will notice my plight and help me out... but until then, I'll just have keep going.

[Pesmerga]

Perhaps, my child, one day, you will see the light. But don't ever use the words "paint thinner" and "cock" in the same post. Ever.






The videos look great, but I keep hearing the same shit. I want more info on the AI.

[Murray_H]

The videos look great, but I keep hearing the same shit. I want more info on the AI.

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That's pretty much all they're thinking

[Pesmerga]

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[Murray_H]

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I dunt now beenaree 2 gud, i jus makey rando smacky smack wiv keckyburd.

[Adrien C]

Rocket luncher looks asawme.

[DEATHMASTER]

Yeah I eat rockets for lunch as well. Gotta love the new link look.

[Bakurei]

I... I don't know. Somehow I manage it. It's... it's so hard though... I ask myself every day why it had to be me, of all the people, me whose video card only supports Pixel Shader 2.0. Perhaps, one day, the good lord will notice my plight and help me out... but until then, I'll just have keep going.

Man I had a laugh reading that :d

Sig stuff definitely!

edit: Ou jea looking at those vids made my change my pants \o/

[Ren.182]

Looks pretty. Think i'll be getting this.

[Kouler]

O______O !!!! Awesome!!!

[3ssence]

Me likey looky

:E

Boy the rocket launcher is large, can't help thinking that might impede the players view a little !!!

[Murray]

What can I say? I love the engine. I'm looking forward to any game that will use the engine. The graphics are simply gorgeous and I hope that the games will be as awesome as in graphics as in game play, music, atmosphere, and so on.

[Lucid]

Looks pretty nifty, but all of the weapons look alot more aged now... like Star Wars Episodes 4 - 6 are to Episodes 1 - 3 ... looks like the weapons are less-futuristic than usual.

Cool nonetheless.

[weskerQ8]

this game rules

[Gorgon]

quality game. All we need is a release date

[Raxxman]

Looking at the framerate (I assume) I dread to think about what computer will be required to run at a decent rate when the brown stuff hits the spinny thing

[Gargantou]

Raxxman, they've said a 6800Ultra can run the UT2k7 on high settings without problems iirc.:)

[Flyingdebris]

I am saddened about the shock rifle's shock combo effect.

It used to be an awesome impolision effect. Now, its just a quick flash... A step backwards methinks

[The Brick]

If you look closely, you can see a distortion effect.

[Kouler]

Man, they have to stop teasing us! Just release a demo already!

[ktimekiller]

Looks awesome

[satch919]

The Unreal Engine 3 is impressive but this movie failed to really wow me. I didn't really care for the level design. The textures looked awesome and very detailed but it just seemed like it was missing something.

[$kelet0r]

that was piss poor - UT is always meant to pushing the barrier and nothing in that video suggested any innovation
i'll reserve judgement for more media

[Iced_Eagle]

Coolio. I'm sure I'll get UT2k7, and part of that is simply because I want to try my hand at the scripting, and the programming portions of UT2k7.

[Gargantou]

The Unreal Engine 3 is impressive but this movie failed to really wow me. I didn't really care for the level design. The textures looked awesome and very detailed but it just seemed like it was missing something.I agree, something just simply felt.. amiss..

[schoppi]

Nothing new, IMO not worth to download/watch. Hopefully e³ will bring something new and better looking - otherwise I won´t give UT another try. No revolution since Unreal Tournament I, only lame evolution.

Crysis and ET Quake Wars look better by far...but again, perhaps e³ will change my mind.

[Gorgon]

I agree, something just simply felt.. amiss..
it was missing the action, no players :sniper:

[Axyon]

I agree, something just simply felt.. amiss..The harsh compression on the video accounts for that. The game looks stunning in screenshots, so it's hardly fair to compare a small, compressed video with actual screencaps. We've entered the era where bump/normal/parallax mapping simply doesn't show well in videos.

[Asuka]

The harsh compression on the video accounts for that. The game looks stunning in screenshots, so it's hardly fair to compare a small, compressed video with actual screencaps. We've entered the era where bump/normal/parallax mapping simply doesn't show well in videos.

Very true. They need to start releaseing HD/HQ videos aside from the LQ vidieos. I remember when i 1st saw CellFactor i was thinking man this probably looks 100x in HD and i was right.

[Pesmerga]

I don't think its the graphics is what's missing from the videos.

[Quixoticism]

Update: There is now a third trailer up and it shows off a little bit of ONS-Torlan 2 and the new Paladin. They say the map is extremely unpolished but it still looks very nice and the Paladin looks awesome as does its shield.

Get it here (http://www.gametrailers.com/umwatcher.php?id=954)

[Iced_Eagle]

Thanks! :D

Hopefully there will be more, as it cuts off at the end.

[Quixoticism]

Yeah I'm really hoping that there will be more because they showed off three new vehicles at that show and we've only seen one so far.

:bounce:

[satch919]

That last video was alright because of that tank. The shield looked awesome! :O

[Asuka]

Update: There is now a third trailer up and it shows off a little bit of ONS-Torlan 2 and the new Paladin. They say the map is extremely unpolished but it still looks very nice and the Paladin looks awesome as does its shield.

Get it here (http://www.gametrailers.com/umwatcher.php?id=954)

Holy shit @ shield !!!

[Garfield_]

Raxxman, they've said a 6800Ultra can run the UT2k7 on high settings without problems iirc.:)

I don't really doubt one 6800Ultra can't handle the next gen games without too much loss in game experience on medium/high settings. But do anyone think one single 7900Ultra, 2GB DDR2 and some AMD 3800+ could run Crysis aswell as a X800, 1GB DDR and AMD 3200+ can run Far Cry on highest details without AA?
I am defenently going to sacrifice some money for a new PC to be able to experience Crysis, UT2K7 and other great games, but for now im just trying to get an idea of what these games might and possibly will require :)

[Raxxman]

if you look at the top right hand side of the screen in the videos I think you see the frame rate

considering that the game featured no opponents and limited weapon effects I'm a little worried the frame rate was dropping to low 30s at times. If that's the case, whatever they were using is not going to be powerful enought to play smooth games during frantic mp action.

course it might not be frame rate, so if anyone else knows what it is, I'd love to hear them.

[Garfield_]

Actually you can see framedrops while he loads 3 rockets in the RL in the second clip and the game kind of freezes or lags when he shot them. I remember this happening in UT2K3 with my Geforce 2 MX440 =D

[Gargantou]

Garfield, if you're considering upgrade, wait for either the first DX10 GPUs or wait for Crysis to release.. I mean, enjoying it maxed in DX9 probably won't be nothing to compare with enjoying it maxed in DX10(They've stated it looks a generation ahead of the DX9 render iirc)!:O

[Garfield_]

Yes I know, im not going to buy a new PC this year, or atleast not until Crysis is released, but Im trying to figure out how much cash I need to save.

[Gargantou]

Depends on if you want a top-end comp or a high-end comp, also depends on the competetiveness then(I.e. pricewars).
I myself am planning on buying a new comp most likely when Vista comes, I'm aiming to be save up and spend approx 15000 SEK, but all my savings include xmas cash, barnbidrag(Iirc you're Swedish?) etc.
I'm either gonna spend that on a new comp or a high-end digital camera.
The price also depends on if you plan on building it yourself or not, I myself am probably gonna try building it myself for the first time.(My current comp is 3 years old :p)

[Garfield_]

Going to use some of my current parts such as harddrive and stuff like that, I am only planning on a new cpu, graphics and ram, a new mobo will most likely be needed to. Im currently playing games on my x800xl, 1gb ddr and amd 3200+
I get decent FPS (30-50fps) in everygame with high details and 2x AA. My main concern is the graphics, will one GF 7900GTX be enough to get good fps in games like Crysis?

[Gargantou]

From what we've heard, yes, but the 7xxx series ain't DX10.. the 8xxx series are rumoured to support DX10 and are rumoured to be released in June/July, but it's better to wait for the higher-end stuff that'll come out when Crysis comes out..
I'm also not sure how big a worry HDCP, High-Bandwidth Digital Copy Protection, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDCP will be to people who want to use Vista/DX10.. I remember it having some importance to gaming on Vista but mainly it was important for playing Blu-Ray/HD-DVD on Vista..

Not alot of COMPUTER monitors are HDCP compliant these days.. Heck, many AMERICAN HDTVs from pre-2004/2005 aren't HDCP compliant..:)

[Garfield_]

Hmm atleast I hope one 8xxx series Geforce card will be enough for Crysis. I don't want to spend $1000 on a graphics card.

[Gargantou]

the 7xxx series will definitely be enough for Crysis, but they will not be able to run the DX10 version only the currently shown DX9 vers, i.e. you won't be able to enjoy the really maxed graphics, but only the DX9 render which still looks beautiful(All the current shown media has been DX9).. And with DX10 around the corner(Less than a year away) I think it's pretty useless to buy a DX9 card right now..

[Garfield_]

the 7xxx series will definitely be enough for Crysis, but they will not be able to run the DX10 version only the currently shown DX9 vers, i.e. you won't be able to enjoy the really maxed graphics, but only the DX9 render which still looks beautiful(All the current shown media has been DX9).. And with DX10 around the corner(Less than a year away) I think it's pretty useless to buy a DX9 card right now..

All depends on money does'nt it? I am for sure going to buy atleast one 7900GTX for Crysis, all depends on their price in dec/jan this year. The first DX10 cards will be very expensive, so I don't think I'll have one of those, incase i don't win on the lottery ofcourse.

[Raxxman]

thing is, its all well and good speculating, but its best to just wait and save n see, then buy the best you can get with what you saved at the time you want to.

:P

[Iced_Eagle]

Garfield: Don't forget that you will also have to buy Windows Vista along with your upgraded parts if you want to run DX10.

DX10 is actually already being used in Vista (just that it's running in Software mode since no card supports DX10 yet)

http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/4081/capture3bc.jpg

I play games like CS:S on my Vista comp and I get about equal performance as my XP machine :)

SO yeah I highly suggest that you don't upgrade until the DX10 card are out.

Oh, and for your CPU, make sure you go 64-bit (so yes you will need a new mobo)... It's really the only option I recommend to people if they are planning on upgrading as 32-bit will soon be obselote in the next year or two.

[Garfield_]

I play games like CS:S on my Vista comp and I get about equal performance as my XP machine :)

Vista is'nt released yet is it?

[Gargantou]

No but a pretty widely avaible Beta is :p

[Garfield_]

Ohh I see, nothing im considering to download atleast ;)

[Iced_Eagle]

Yes but I am part of the Vista beta program, so I'm using a legal copy.

Oh, and I highly suggest that you don't download any warezed copies of Vista, because Microsoft is really starting to crack down on these things. Basically it's along the lines of Microsoft is actively searching for anyone who leaks this, and I'm really not sure what sort of action they will be taking (besides obviously the testers who leak them will be permanently removed from the program and banned from Microsoft testing program for life), but I suggest being careful if you choose to go this route, which I don't recommend in any way.

Vista comes out early 2007 btw.

If I might add, I must say that build 5365 is the BEST Vista build I've had the liberty to test :) Perofrms great, no showstoppers for me, and it overall is really shaping up to a complete operating system that is usable on a day-to-day basis.

In fact I'm considering that probably sometime within the Beta 2 cycle that I might switch over completely. That is once a few of my favorite applications get compatible and such (Daemon Tools didn't work so I couldn't load up my copy of Visual Studio, which I downloaded from MSDN... I have to burn it to DVD which is a waste of a disc *sigh*)

One thing I'm curious about, is that does UT2007 have a DX10 portion to the engine, or is it all DX9? I'm going to guess that it's all DX9 because I haven't heard anything about DX10 paths. Hopefully they are working on a port, or at least working to support it in the following game (UT2k8 or 2k9?) so that you get all the lovely performance boosts (as much as 30-40% in some games) that Vista gives you.

[Garfield_]

A Vista computer with a DX10 card, it can run games like Half-Life2, Crysis and UT2K7, DX10 it's backward compatible with DX9 is'nt it?

[Gargantou]

Yes DX10 will be backwards compatible, but due to how vastly rewritten it is it only emulates the previous DXs iirc, however, despite what many(including myself) started to panic about, MS has stated the highest performance losses they've seen is about 5% iirc, that's not alot, atleast not if you have like a 60 FPS.:p

[Iced_Eagle]

Yes in some games there is a very small performance hit... But if you can run in Aero Glass mode, that really shouldn't be too much of a problem (considering you need a mid to high end comp to get Aero Glass in the first place)...

PCMagazine has reported that in some cases though there is a 30-40% increase in games...

I know that what I'm about to say is somewhat scary, and I'll probably get hated for it... But you guys need to trust the Microsoft Gaming Division (DirectX team and all those people)... These guys are gamers and are making sure that when you emulate OpenGL games (I haven't tested one out yet actually, so I might have to install one like Doom3 to test), which was a recent freak-out, that they will run with little performance hit... Once people reconfigure their API's to sort of go towards the Windows Vista approach and optimize for it, then there will be performance gains.

I wish Microsoft would give us DirectX10 cards to test out once they are finished being created.

(btw, this post was made on Vista :) )