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Azner
16-04-2006, 11:54 AM
I'm really confused on this one, since they got Earth have they gotten hold of Xen? Seeing vortigaunts in City 17 Means yes right? just clarifying...

ríomhaire
16-04-2006, 02:18 PM
Possibly, I think they have, others disagree.

el Chi
16-04-2006, 02:28 PM
I'm really confused on this one, since they got Earth have they gotten hold of Xen? Seeing vortigaunts in City 17 Means yes right? just clarifying...
The Vortigaunts are on Earth, one can only assume, because of the portal storms. Most of the ones you meet didn't have any shackles off because they had been slaves to the Nihilanth, and with it dead they were free.
However there are one or two who're still slaves to the Combine (at the very beginning, go to the right, and you'll see one with shackles on (albeit different ones to the ones they had in HL1) sweeping the floor.

The Combine weren't on Xen in HL1, but whether they are now or not, I don't know.

99.vikram
16-04-2006, 02:44 PM
The Combine couldnt have gotten to Xen without obtaining the human teleportal technology. Mossman only told them how to emulate a Xen relay, without dealing with Xen at all. So no, i don't think they have reached Xen yet. Maybe in future episodes.

But this begs the question - if Kleiner and Eli have built teleporters that are capable of reaching Xen, why haven't the Vortigaunts stranded on earth started leaving?

el Chi
16-04-2006, 03:12 PM
The Vortigaunt's homeworld isn't Xen. They were chased there trying to flee the Combine.

ríomhaire
16-04-2006, 03:31 PM
The Combine couldnt have gotten to Xen without obtaining the human teleportal technology. Mossman only told them how to emulate a Xen relay, without dealing with Xen at all. So no, i don't think they have reached Xen yet. Maybe in future episodes.

But this begs the question - if Kleiner and Eli have built teleporters that are capable of reaching Xen, why haven't the Vortigaunts stranded on earth started leaving?
Why wouldn't they be able now that Nihily is dead? Xen relay is just using Xen for LOCAL teleportaion.

Mutley
16-04-2006, 04:31 PM
I thought Combine were just mutated humans? What do they look like really? Are they the stalkers?

loadqm
16-04-2006, 06:05 PM
I thought Combine were just mutated humans? What do they look like really? Are they the stalkers?

No, stalkers are probably human too. No one really knows for sure what the combine look like right now.

Pesmerga
16-04-2006, 06:05 PM
No, stalkers are probably human too. No one really knows for sure what the combine look like right now.

We're pretty sure they're huge slug like things.

Sparda
16-04-2006, 07:01 PM
Well every one knows what the Combine look like there humans have you ever seen the combine sriped model? the stalker where human too. but the combine are not stalkers, god play HL2 agane and take more note

Pesmerga
16-04-2006, 07:11 PM
Take more notes in English class.

ríomhaire
16-04-2006, 07:30 PM
The real Combine are over-evolved slugs. They are depedant on the technology that they created. But it doesn't matter as they have machines and slaves to do everything for them.

What you saw on Earth was just an ocupation force of modified Humans and a few Synths; what the Combine's army is made of. They are alien races that have been asimilated into the Combine's army.

I like to think of the Overwatch soldiers as the Human Synths, though still under development.

Eejit
16-04-2006, 11:55 PM
I vote no. There is so much teleportation technology on Xen (both Xenian and human) that the Combine would have been able to reverse-engineer it without needing help from Breen or Mossman.
e.g. the teleporters Freeman uses on Xen, the old BM teleporters Barney uses.

Besides, the Xenians were able to flee to Xen and were able to successfully establish themselves pretty well without Combine interference. That really suggests that the Combine couldn't get to them.

99.vikram
17-04-2006, 03:55 AM
The Vortigaunt's homeworld isn't Xen. They were chased there trying to flee the Combine.

I know this. but it's safe to say their homeworld is screwed now. When the rest of the Vortigaunts are on Xen, why wouldn't the stranded ones want to join them?

Why wouldn't they be able now that Nihily is dead? Xen relay is just using Xen for LOCAL teleportaion.

But as Blue Shift showed, if you can teleport locally, you can teleport to Xen.

Dairokkan
18-04-2006, 04:29 PM
Well, I doubt the Combine got to Xen. For one, they arrived on Earth because the portal storms teleported a citadel into City 17 (or whatever it was called before) and maybe other cities, and they directly teleport to those citadels. I mean, Breen opened a portal to the Combine Homeworld from the citadel, right? I believe that they haven't got to Xen, and their Citadels have a signal strong enough to allow them to bypass Xen while teleproting.

AJ Rimmer
18-04-2006, 05:13 PM
Well, I doubt the Combine got to Xen. For one, they arrived on Earth because the portal storms teleported a citadel into City 17 (or whatever it was called before) and maybe other cities, and they directly teleport to those citadels. I mean, Breen opened a portal to the Combine Homeworld from the citadel, right? I believe that they haven't got to Xen, and their Citadels have a signal strong enough to allow them to bypass Xen while teleproting.
No, the citadel was teleported there by the combine, it wasn't an accident.

Reginald
18-04-2006, 08:45 PM
Well, I doubt the Combine got to Xen. For one, they arrived on Earth because the portal storms teleported a citadel into City 17 (or whatever it was called before) and maybe other cities, and they directly teleport to those citadels. I mean, Breen opened a portal to the Combine Homeworld from the citadel, right? I believe that they haven't got to Xen, and their Citadels have a signal strong enough to allow them to bypass Xen while teleproting.

I wish people would read up on what they are talking about. D:

I'm not going to state my alleigance in this argument because it isn't easy to make one argument stand out over the other one, there is conflicting evidence for both. So...yeah. :)

Eejit
19-04-2006, 08:42 PM
Well there isn't actually any evidence, just logic.

Max35
19-04-2006, 08:58 PM
Well, I doubt they were there during the HL1 period, as for the tenure of HL2 IMO it is impossible to state for sure the Combine haven't been on Xen. There is a small chance I could be enlightened, however.

Azner
20-04-2006, 01:53 PM
Its amazing how we debate over these things ... i go with theyre not there yet i guess...if not we would see more then them..

99.vikram
20-04-2006, 02:09 PM
It's one of those things - like crop circles, or mozzarella cheese :)

Azner
20-04-2006, 02:11 PM
It's one of those things - like crop circles, or mozzarella cheese :)
Intresting i wonder how mozzarella cheese started... OH NO ITS AN ALIEN FOOD ARRRGH... anyway lets get back to the combine getting to Xen:cheese:

xerogeno
24-04-2006, 11:18 PM
Well, I doubt the Combine got to Xen. For one, they arrived on Earth because the portal storms teleported a citadel into City 17 (or whatever it was called before) and maybe other cities, and they directly teleport to those citadels. I mean, Breen opened a portal to the Combine Homeworld from the citadel, right? I believe that they haven't got to Xen, and their Citadels have a signal strong enough to allow them to bypass Xen while teleproting.



Well...it isnt necesarily the HOMEWORLD of the combine overlord race. The combine controls many interdimensional and intergalactic planets right? That means it coulda been any planet the combine has control on.