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B_MAN
29-03-2006, 10:18 AM
what the heck is with the AI in this game?
how come, after slaying someone in a dark, quiet basement with no one else around, the guards somehow know ive commited a crime as soon as i step outside??!!
and if you somehow manage to get away and travel to another city or whatever, the guards there know about you too? word travels that fast?? ridiculous!
dont get me wrong, this is a great game, im havin fun with it, but... it coulda been ALOT better
hopefully they'll patch things up properly
:smoking:
Cormeh
29-03-2006, 10:24 AM
Aye, I get this too. Once I picked my way into a house in the imperial city at night when no one was around.

After about 5 minutes of poking around the ground floor and basement, I checked the bedrooms and nobody was home. I snuck around upstairs too and all of a sudden a guard appeared!

Trying to murder people is crap fun as well. I'll get it eventually.
HunterSeeker
29-03-2006, 10:43 AM
Someone saw you enter the basement.
auron
29-03-2006, 10:44 AM
If you don't kill the person in one hit they scream. Paralyzing them seems to prevent this though.
Mutley
29-03-2006, 12:54 PM
Yep, the AI is clever not dumb. You need to sneak in and kill them quietly or the guards hear. ;)

The only AI dumbness I've seen is NPCs repeating the same conversation with each other 2 or 3 times in a row.
Maxi
29-03-2006, 02:00 PM
You're just not sneaky enough ;)
mortiz
29-03-2006, 03:30 PM
Yep, the AI is clever not dumb. You need to sneak in and kill them quietly or the guards hear. ;)

The only AI dumbness I've seen is NPCs repeating the same conversation with each other 2 or 3 times in a row.

There's also the issue where the NPC's can't see you sometimes, you can start shooting an NPC in the head with arrows and they'll happily stroll around as if they're getting hit by a gentle breeze.
StardogChampion
29-03-2006, 04:25 PM
The only thing that annoys me about the AI is when you kill someone in the middle of nowhere somehow they hear/see you.

The rest of the AI seems pretty cool to me, especially seeing people walking about town and going into various buildings on their own.
jimbo118
29-03-2006, 04:41 PM
yeah they have thier 'wtf' moments allright, for example when i went through the 1st oblivion gate the soldier you meet ran into the red blooded sea and burnt to death, guess my pathfinding wasnt the safest for him :P
Glirk Dient
29-03-2006, 05:52 PM
If your getting caught by gaurds your doing something wrong. There is no "bug" where gaurds magically see you everywhere. There has to be witnesses. Try turning on sneak and make sure the eye isn't lit up. If they don't die in 1 hit and run around screaming your probally screwed.
CptStern
29-03-2006, 05:56 PM
yeah they have thier 'wtf' moments allright, for example when i went through the 1st oblivion gate the soldier you meet ran into the red blooded sea and burnt to death, guess my pathfinding wasnt the safest for him :P


same happened to me ..but it was good cuz I was lvl 2 and needed new equipment ..thankyouverymuch MrClumsyIfallintolava guy
WhiteZero
29-03-2006, 05:59 PM
No Psychic Guards mod (http://www.tessource.net/files/file.php?id=1904)
enjoy
Max35
29-03-2006, 06:43 PM
What's worse is when you try to kill them, and then they run out of their house and try to get a guard.

Guard: "By the gods, there's a psychopath on the loose"
WhiteZero
29-03-2006, 07:19 PM
What's worse is when you try to kill them, and then they run out of their house and try to get a guard.

Guard: "By the gods, there's a psychopath on the loose"
But thats realistic.
Max35
29-03-2006, 07:50 PM
Yeah I know. I just meant the sheer annoyance factor. It's more like "stand still and die, dammit!" :P.
B_MAN
29-03-2006, 08:01 PM
Someone saw you enter the basement.
negative
i made every effort to enter the building and every room for that matter, undetected

also,in many cases, it is IMPOSSIBLE to kill a target with one hit, IE at the low level 4 that im at attacking a guy with heavy armor on...
therefore, someone is ALWAYS gonna hear them scream? no matter how sneaky you are
im referring to a guy i had to kill in the imperial city.. he was a guard and he NEVER slept(no joke.. waited 2 days every hour to see if he did)
finally i got him alone in the basement... pulled out my finest bow/arrow/poison and hit him for 3x damage i think... after a few more slashes he was dead
went upstairs.. to the main area of the home where two servants were located...... and of course THEY SAID NOTHING
went outside and boom, STOP RIGHT THERE CRIMINAL
doesnt make sense.. no one can defend that
Zeus
29-03-2006, 09:19 PM
Guys there's a mod to fix this

http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View.php?view=OblivionMods.Detail&id=129
WhiteZero
29-03-2006, 09:21 PM
Guys there's a mod to fix this

http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View.php?view=OblivionMods.Detail&id=129
I already posted it...
-.-
StardogChampion
29-03-2006, 09:38 PM
Guys there's a mod to fix this

http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View.php?view=OblivionMods.Detail&id=129
Couldn't you just go around killing everyone in a city now? The cities would be empty :dozey:
B_MAN
29-03-2006, 10:15 PM
Guys there's a mod to fix this

http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View.php?view=OblivionMods.Detail&id=129
cheers! :smoking:
Rizzo
07-04-2006, 03:53 PM
What exactly does that do? I dont want to mess anything up.
Maxi
07-04-2006, 04:07 PM
Did you even click the link?!