Gman! Spoilers!

[Samon]

Due to Kleiner? Quite possibly. As already suggested by Kupo, what if seeing Lamaar at the end of HL2 is not simply some little joke, it is infact Kleiner ripping through into wherever Gman holds Gordon. But don't forget where we last left Kleiner.

"Fascinating, we've seem to have developed a very slow teleport. This suggests an entirely new line of investigation."

It has been speculated that Gman uses a slow teleport to sustain Gordon - Kleiner makes a breakthrough during the rebellion? Probably wrong, but worthy of discussion all the same. Though, I'm pretty sure its due to some input on the Vorts that he loses control...

[CodeFire]

I cant wait too see the look on his face when it happens :laugh: Now we know why he is pissed in the game.

[UltimaApocalypse]

I already have a bit of an idea:
http://birphborph.ionismus.de/wp-content/gman.jpg

[CodeFire]

"DO you feel lucky punk.... do yaa?" :p I had to say it.. :imu:

lol, you changed the pic?

[UltimaApocalypse]

I thought this one was better.

[Vegeta897]

He looks like he's about to burst into tears, lol.

[UltimaApocalypse]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v323/trueneutral/G-Man.jpg
RAWR!

Back on topic, though. When your in stasis or this slow teleport, your not really anywhere right? So maybe Kleiner breaks the connection and Gordon reappears in the same location he was already in from Half Life 2's cliffhanger.

[highlander]

it'd be awesome, if u hear gmans voice when your ingame somthing like " dr.freeman , stop now, or i will be forced to stop u myself , dr.freeman, you are my employe , you will obey me! DR.FREEMAN!"

[Victor2]

Due to Kleiner? Quite possibly. As already suggested by Kupo, what if seeing Lamaar at the end of HL2 is not simply some little joke


Lamar?! WTF are you talking about? Explain me please. :dork:

[hynsey]

Lamar?! WTF are you talking about? Explain me please. :dork:

After the credits at the end of the game, you see Lamar and hear Kleiner shouting after him

[Llama]

her. Its a her

[Max35]

I think Gordon seeing Lamarr was just a bit of comic relief and nothing more. I mean, he jumped right at the screen (Gordon), if it was real Gordon would not be alive. Maybe I'm wrong.

[Samon]

I think Gordon seeing Lamarr was just a bit of comic relief and nothing more. I mean, he jumped right at the screen (Gordon), if it was real Gordon would not be alive. Maybe I'm wrong.

Lamaar was altered by Kleiner, and therefore posed no threat to Gordon.

[AJ Rimmer]

I think Gordon seeing Lamarr was just a bit of comic relief and nothing more. I mean, he jumped right at the screen (Gordon), if it was real Gordon would not be alive. Maybe I'm wrong.
"She's been debeaked and completely harmless, worst she might do is couple with your head... fruitlessly"

[Max35]

Whoa, I feel stupid now...

[AJ Rimmer]

Whoa, I feel stupid now...
Oh don't feel bad, it's alright.

[riomhaire]

http://www.hlfallout.net/images/content/characters/full/gman_full.jpg
"Weee'll see, about that!"

[Samon]

Leave the building Max.

[Max35]

*bursts into tears* you're a cruel man Samon :P

[Samon]

Well, at least you don't have every member of the forum quoting your mishaps :P

[Max35]

Hey, I have to find joy in something...

And let's remember, LaidLaw is just gearboxe's creation and is not actually part of the plot, so the story could go ANYWHERE:laugh:

[Samon]

Do you want to be banned Max!? :P

[A True Canadian]

Due to Kleiner? Quite possibly. As already suggested by Kupo, what if seeing Lamaar at the end of HL2 is not simply some little joke, it is infact Kleiner ripping through into wherever Gman holds Gordon. But don't forget where we last left Kleiner.

"Fascinating, we've seem to have developed a very slow teleport. This suggests an entirely new line of investigation."

It has been speculated that Gman uses a slow teleport to sustain Gordon - Kleiner makes a breakthrough during the rebellion? Probably wrong, but worthy of discussion all the same. Though, I'm pretty sure its due to some input on the Vorts that he loses control...

I guess it would all depend on where Alyx "hid" Kleiner and whether he actually has access to technology. Or maybe Alyx never did get a chance to move Kleiner from the lab. Perhaps he remained stubborn and stayed behind to look for Lamaar, and then, possibly, use the teleporter to summon Gordon...somehow.

The only problem I have with this theory is the feasiblility of it. How could Kleiner be able to bring Gordon back to Earth without bringing him back to the lab? We know that Episode 1 starts in the Citadel (unless we start at the lab, and then fight our way back into the thing to rescue Alyx and the others). How could Kleiner be able to just pick Gordon out of thin air and plop him back on Earth?

Additionally, if Kleiner did have the means of bringing Gordon back, how would he know that Gordon had left with the G-Man in the first-place? The Vortigaunts? Ever since the Sand Traps level, the Vortigaunts, seemed to have, simply, disappeared...



...or could that be a clue? :O

[Rizzo]

Well i dont think Kliener did break out Gordon, seeing how it takes place almost directly after Half life 2 ended. And he whouldnt realy have time to do so, i mean, Wow! look what i just found out! Oh wait, is that Gordon?

I do not think its the vorts either, after all, they are working for gman. But maybe they got sick of him or something.

Edit: That could be a clue!!!

[Samon]

unless we start at the lab, and then fight our way back into the thing to rescue Alyx and the others.
O

Well, that certainly won't be the case, we know for sure. That'd be another City 17 trek, a great deal of time without Alyx, then its back out of the Citadel and more city 17...all in 6 hours? No sir.

I'm starting to think its the Vortigaunts.

[xirow]

I do not think its the vorts either, after all, they are working for gman.

Are the Vortigaunts working for Gman?

[Rizzo]

Or!
Gman: Go Gordon! Kill em all!
*Gordon runs of with Alyx*
Gman: Crap.

Will the game time be just 6 hours? I mean, half life 2 didnt take 3 days to play.

Edit: 3 days

[riomhaire]

Well, that certainly won't be the case, we know for sure. That'd be another City 17 trek, a great deal of time without Alyx, then its back out of the Citadel and more city 17...all in 6 hours? No sir.

I'm starting to think its the Vortigaunts.
Actualy, that's probably the best explenation.

[Max35]

I suppose it is possible that Kleiner tapped into Gman's slow teleport. The Vorts are another strong possibility. And it could be neither.

[Polaris]

Well, lot of things depends on "employers" and they are just satisfied...
Anyway nice theory!

[AJ Rimmer]

Maybe Kleiner & Co knew about g-man (a few things supports this ["how bout it dr Freeman, didn't you realise your contract was up to the highest bidder?])
and they thought the g-man might pull Gordon out after he did what he was supposed to do, as per their agreement. But, as the resistance actually care about Gordon, Kleiner or maybe Eli put together a "G-man-stasis-field-gordon-puller-outer" and, well... pulled gordon out of G-man's stasis field.

[Rizzo]

Yeah... Or Gordon somwhere throwout hte game told them, hey, theres a guy in a suit out to get me, i got a feeling he wants to åut me into stasis and theres not much i can do... Care to help?

I mean, just becouse we dont here that he talks, doesnt mean he dosnt.

Barney in half life1: You talk to much!

[AJ Rimmer]

Yeah... Or Gordon somwhere throwout hte game told them, hey, theres a guy in a suit out to get me, i got a feeling he wants to åut me into stasis and theres not much i can do... Care to help?

I mean, just becouse we dont here that he talks, doesnt mean he dosnt.
Actually, yes it does.

[Remus]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v323/trueneutral/G-Man.jpg
RAWR!.

LOL. If he made that face in the actual game I would laugh myself to bits:laugh: .

[UltimaApocalypse]

Actualy, that's probably the best explenation.

Just because this theory includes Vortigaunts.....

[Samon]

Maybe Kleiner & Co knew about g-man

Of course they do - the resistance hired him ;)

[Rizzo]

Of course they do - the resistance hired him ;)

I realy dont think that the resistance could outbid the combine, sice they must have known about Gordons open contract. Unless Gman just wanted to help them and stop the Combine from getting the tec.

[Samon]

You can't be sure the Combine made a bid.

[Lightice]

You can't be sure the Combine made a bid.

It does sound simpler to outcash a bunch of ragtag refugees, than to hunt a single man causing vast destruction all over.

But I don't believe, that the rebels could afford Gman's services, in any case - at least they should have informed, that you have been hired, rather than randomly appeared just in the right time.

[UltimaApocalypse]

Who knows what the G-Man wants? For all we know, there could be something special on Earth.

[Rizzo]

Yeah i guess so. I bet gman has some grudge against the Combine.

You can't be sure the Combine made a bid.

Why whouldnt they?

[AJ Rimmer]

Yeah i guess so. I bet gman has some grudge against the Combine.



Why whouldnt they?
"Howdy! Ya'll interested in a nerdy geeky theoretical physicist with a history of disobidience against authority to join your highly trained, super technological, vast interdimensional invasion armies? Bidding starts at the low low price of $100!"

The combine don't care about Freeman, cause they don't know what he did. Breen knew, and most humans knew, but maybe the g-man didn't contact Breen, but went straight to the combine, who didn't care one iota. The resistance though, they cared.

@Samon; Yeah, that's what I was referring to, but not wanting to offend anyone I didn't say it was fact. People can really get cranky over that little word around here I've noticed...

[Remus]

"Howdy! Ya'll interested in a nerdy geeky theoretical physicist with a history of disobidience against authority to join your highly trained, super technological, vast interdimensional invasion armies? Bidding starts at the low low price of $100!"

Now that's worth a thousand:laugh: . Buy one Gordon, get a Shepherd free!!!! Apply now for this amazing offer!

[riomhaire]

Just because this theory includes Vortigaunts.....
Oh shut up, I'm serious. The Kliener thing seems a bit more farfetched. Otherwise someone unknown is pulling Gordon away (the Combine would probably just bid). We don't know what the Vorts are capable of and they certainly like Gordon.
"Your song we sing and shall sing for eternity"
"Unity of purpose, the shattering of common shackels, a single road we tread"
Plus they HATEHATEHATE slavery.

[Samon]

The combine don't care about Freeman, cause they don't know what he did. ..

I'm pretty sure they do. "That man I saw, I'm all but certain it was....Gordon Freeman." Breen was informing the Advisor and I certainly doubt he'd shoot off some name. They knew all about him, and at the end, when Breen says "Its me you should be concerned about..." They were worried about Gordon, clearly. Plus, the Advisor gets a nice good look at him whilst on the hologram.

[MuToiD_MaN]

When I saw this thread title I assumed this would link to another Gman YTMND.

And for those of you who might worry that GMan is going over the edge, just remember:





He IS the edge.

[wilka91]

Goddamn it, I got spoiled by this thread's title!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm mad like hell right now!

(And I'm not coming back to these forums before April 24!)

[CodeFire]

Well, i'm losing control now that they delayed it till may... :borg: I'm not interested in aftermath anymore. Atleast not now..

[UltimaApocalypse]

Goddamn it, I got spoiled by this thread's title!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm mad like hell right now!

(And I'm not coming back to these forums before April 24!)

May 31st now.

;(:(:frown::angry::x:flame::sleep::bonce::dork:

[AJ Rimmer]

I'm pretty sure they do. "That man I saw, I'm all but certain it was....Gordon Freeman." Breen was informing the Advisor and I certainly doubt he'd shoot off some name. They knew all about him, and at the end, when Breen says "Its me you should be concerned about..." They were worried about Gordon, clearly. Plus, the Advisor gets a nice good look at him whilst on the hologram.
Yeeees... but that's after they supposedly made a bid on him.
The combine probably didn't care, what could one man do, right?

[Samon]

That one man managed to:

Survive Black Mesa
Fight his way through Xen and destroy the Nihilanth
Return to Earth, stir trouble and then escape both the city and the entire CP unit
Make connect with Black Mesa survivors
Survive Ravenholm
Tear his way up the coast, knocking Combine outposts offline as he went
Infiltrate Nova Prospekt and neutralize their newly built local teleporter
Incite rebellion and return to the city.
Shutdown several Combine barricades, the suppressor, hand the Nexus over to the rebels and push the Combine back to the base of the Citadel.
Worm his way into the heart of the Citadel, becoming a seemingly unstoppable force where you'd assume the Combine to be at their best.
Come face to face with Breen, then manage to escape and pursue Breen to the dark fusion reactor, climb his way up the spire ripping the Combine machinery to pieces and then singlehandidly managing to fend off two gunships as well as crippling the teleporter and putting the reactor into a state of meltdown.

Damn that one ****ing man.

[Steven]

Do you want to be banned Max!? :P
LMAO, I cant stop coffing now. God damn throat. :frown:

[Rizzo]

That one man managed to:

Survive Black Mesa
Fight his way through Xen and destroy the Nihilanth
Return to Earth, stir trouble and then escape both the city and the entire CP unit
Make connect with Black Mesa survivors
Survive Ravenholm
Tear is his up the coast, knocking Combine outposts offline as he went
Infiltrate Nova Prospekt and neutralize their newly built local teleporter
Incite rebellion and return to the city.
Shutdown several Combine barricades, the suppressor, hand the Nexus over to the rebels and push the Combine back to the base of the Citadel.
Worm his way into the heart of the Citadel, becoming a seemingly unstoppable force where you'd assume the Combine to be at their best.
Come face to face with Breen, then manage to escape and pursue Breen to the dark fusion reactor, climb his way up the spire ripping the Combine machinery to pieces and then singlehandidly managing to fend off two gunships as well as crippling the teleporter and putting the reactor into a state of meltdown.

Damn that one ****ing man.

So why didnt they make a bid? Unless Gman didn want to work for them. Since they where on Xen :P

[Samon]

They weren't on Xen.
And whats more, the majority of all those things happened whilst Gordon was on an assignment, therefore they couldn't have made a bid.

[Rizzo]

Well no, they weren't on Xen i guess, but still, they could have gotten there in half life 2? I thought someone said that. Or did they just jumo straight from there own dimension to ours?

[riomhaire]

So why didnt they make a bid? Unless Gman didn want to work for them. Since they where on Xen :P
Maybe they did. If the g-man is losing control then he mightened have been able to deliver.

[Rizzo]

Well what my real question is, how could the combine have been outbid?
If gman simply didnt want to aid them. Hece, he has a grudge against the combine for eliminating the gmans employers and trying to take control over xen, who now should be acceseble now that Nihilath is gone.

[UltimaApocalypse]

That one man managed to:

Survive Black Mesa
Fight his way through Xen and destroy the Nihilanth
Return to Earth, stir trouble and then escape both the city and the entire CP unit
Make connect with Black Mesa survivors
Survive Ravenholm
Tear is his up the coast, knocking Combine outposts offline as he went
Infiltrate Nova Prospekt and neutralize their newly built local teleporter
Incite rebellion and return to the city.
Shutdown several Combine barricades, the suppressor, hand the Nexus over to the rebels and push the Combine back to the base of the Citadel.
Worm his way into the heart of the Citadel, becoming a seemingly unstoppable force where you'd assume the Combine to be at their best.
Come face to face with Breen, then manage to escape and pursue Breen to the dark fusion reactor, climb his way up the spire ripping the Combine machinery to pieces and then singlehandidly managing to fend off two gunships as well as crippling the teleporter and putting the reactor into a state of meltdown.

Damn that one ****ing man.

God Damn.....

"How could one man slip through your forces fingers? Time and Time again? How is it possible?"

[Samon]

Edited my own goddam title.

[esplin]

So why didnt they make a bid? Unless Gman didn want to work for them. Since they where on Xen :P

That should have been the ending for HL2.

G-Man: Congratulations Mr. Freeman, you managed to do quite a lot in such a short time, but I'm afraid I have another job for you. Are latest bidder simply wants you to get rid of a little......infestation. I'm sure you'll have no problem dealing with them, you have been working with them for some time now.

[hool10]

You know I have read through this thread and it looks like people are trying to, "outbid" for Gordon's contract. But what would you want to bid with?! I mean do combine have money? Does the bidder want more power? Also what does the person want in return for Gordon's contract? You should be asking those questions. I think the combine leader bought Gordon's contract even though Gordon refused to and escaped. Then when he tried to destroy the Combine he almost killed himself which the G-MAN can't have because he's a great weapon to lose. He's also the item people are bidding for to. ;) So the G-MAN saves gordon and Alyx seeing as they are 2 both great weapons against the Combine. Kinda like Terminator 3 when John Connor and his wife meet as fate lol. Then probably the G-MAN says, "Even though the Combine have have bought your contract, I will not let that happen.

The Combine will make humans extinct. But we'll see about that." And then he probably teleports you on the ground where dog is. In the new PCGamer a picture shows dog bowing to Alyx while she thanks it. Thats what it looks like to me and there is no Citadel in the picture only City 17. So I guess dog, after the G-MAN teleports you to the ground, takes both of you out of harms way. Then Alyx thanks dog for saving them. Good theory?

[esplin]

Actually the "rubble" scene has been discussed before. The general concensus is that this happens later in the game, consider the rubble appears to be rock and not the blue metal the citadel is made of.

As far as the combine's bid, I'm sure they could spare a few planets to borrow Freeman for a few days.

[Samon]

You know I have read through this thread and it looks like people are trying to, "outbid" for Gordon's contract. But what would you want to bid with?! I mean do combine have money? Does the bidder want more power? Also what does the person want in return for Gordon's contract? You should be asking those questions. I think the combine leader bought Gordon's contract even though Gordon refused to and escaped. Then when he tried to destroy the Combine he almost killed himself which the G-MAN can't have because he's a great weapon to lose. He's also the item people are bidding for to. ;) So the G-MAN saves gordon and Alyx seeing as they are 2 both great weapons against the Combine. Kinda like Terminator 3 when John Connor and his wife meet as fate lol. Then probably the G-MAN says, "Even though the Combine have have bought your contract, I will not let that happen.

The Combine will make humans extinct. But we'll see about that." And then he probably teleports you on the ground where dog is. In the new PCGamer a picture shows dog bowing to Alyx while she thanks it. Thats what it looks like to me and there is no Citadel in the picture only City 17. So I guess dog, after the G-MAN teleports you to the ground, takes both of you out of harms way. Then Alyx thanks dog for saving them. Good theory?


No.

The Gman has control over your offers, and therefore if he decides not to lend you out to the Combine, you aren't helping the Combine. The gman loses control over Gordon, and you start to do your own thing.
And the Citadel still stands in that pic, you just can't see it. The Citadel is standing throughout Episode 1, until the end where it explodes and destroys City 17. Also, we've already seen screens where your in the Citadel.

[Hullu]

So at the end of the game, Gordon gets raped by a headcrab?? :( I don't remember that...

[Rizzo]

So at the end of the game, Gordon gets raped by a headcrab?? :( I don't remember that...

What???

[UltimaApocalypse]

What???

I think he's talking about the ending of Half Life 2, where Lamarr runs across screen. Lamarr is debeaked, completely harmless, etc. so Gordon would be fine.

[Rizzo]

Hehe okey. I think it was a joke for those who watched the hole credits.

[UltimaApocalypse]

Like the thread implys, maybe it's Kliener opening up some sort of gate to Gordon's stasis? And Lamarr just...ran into it?

[Reginald]

In some screenshots, we can see the Combine apparently "working with" Gordon to destroy an Antlion Guard. What if perhaps the Combine have indeed hired Gordon out now that they have seen what he is capable of.

Although it would bring up the unsavoury topics of shooting rebels and why you are keeping Alyx alive.

Disregard all I just said.

[Mutley]

Quessies:

1) What do you mean by "bid"? Who bids what who?

2) What was Gmans job that he offered at the end of HL1?

[5parta]

In some screenshots, we can see the Combine apparently "working with" Gordon to destroy an Antlion Guard. What if perhaps the Combine have indeed hired Gordon out now that they have seen what he is capable of.

Although it would bring up the unsavoury topics of shooting rebels and why you are keeping Alyx alive.

Disregard all I just said.


well, even in hl2 the combine will fight the antlions. there are a couple of places i remember "unleashing" the power of the antlion agaisnt the combine (not with the smelly-mushy-pheropods, but by say, turning off the ground slammers near a combine checkpoint).
So its my guess that the screenshot just shows a 3 way fight, gordon vs combine vs antties.

[comoxer]

Quessies:

1) What do you mean by "bid"? Who bids what who?



Gordons on Ebay. :smoking:

[Samon]

In some screenshots, we can see the Combine apparently "working with" Gordon to destroy an Antlion Guard. What if perhaps the Combine have indeed hired Gordon out now that they have seen what he is capable of.

Although it would bring up the unsavoury topics of shooting rebels and why you are keeping Alyx alive.

Disregard all I just said.

Yes, but its been announced that the Combine are still your enemy, and countless screenshots show Gordon and the rebels in battle with Combine soldiers.

[Reginald]

Yes, but its been announced that the Combine are still your enemy, and countless screenshots show Gordon and the rebels in battle with Combine soldiers.


Hence the disregard part of what I said. :P I realised how wrong I was after I typed it.

[Samon]

Ohhh, my mistake. :)

[bigburpco]

"Howdy! Ya'll interested in a nerdy geeky theoretical physicist with a history of disobidience against authority to join your highly trained, super technological, vast interdimensional invasion armies? Bidding starts at the low low price of $100!"

The combine don't care about Freeman, cause they don't know what he did. Breen knew, and most humans knew, but maybe the g-man didn't contact Breen, but went straight to the combine, who didn't care one iota. The resistance though, they cared.

I think they would have known. For one, Freeman was the one who launched the satellite that allowed the portal storms to commence and the Combine a quick takeover of Earth. Besides, Breen would have told them, considering the part of HL2 where you teleported into Breen's office and... well, "... Gordon Freeman!"

Considering the massive manhunt after that, Breen had to have a reason to hunt Freeman down, wouldn't he? Considering the scale of the events, I'm sure Breen would have told the Combine Advisor.

[Rennmniscant]

The vortigaunts are under the sway of the Gman too, right? Maybe they have their own little revolution and Gordon gets set free in the process. That would set up a nice little plot for episode 2 now, wouldn't it?

[99.vikram]

The vortigaunts are under the sway of the Gman too, right? Maybe they have their own little revolution and Gordon gets set free in the process. That would set up a nice little plot for episode 2 now, wouldn't it?

We don't know. All the Vorts say is "We serve the same mystery". We can't draw conclusions from this.

[Max35]

I think it was said somewhere that the Vorts would play a vital role in a future Ep.

[riomhaire]

I think it was said somewhere that the Vorts would play a vital role in a future Ep.
Indeed, I think it was Doug. :E

[Samon]

Naw, was Walker.

[riomhaire]

Oh well, :E anyway :E

[drunkymonkey]

I had a theory that Kleiner was a servant of the G-Man. Guess that sucks then.

[Remus]

Hmm... maybe this third power that they mentioned is the Vortigaunt army or something eh?

[Samon]

I had a theory that Kleiner was a servant of the G-Man. Guess that sucks then.

Yep.

[GardenFreshmint]

seems like the whole ressistance force knows the Behold Gman....... actually the Gman. Gman-vorg-ressistance-Gordan Freeman.

[Samon]

What on this good world are you on about.

[99.vikram]

seems like the whole ressistance force knows the Behold Gman....... actually the Gman. Gman-vorg-ressistance-Gordan Freeman.

Supremely siggable stuff :p

[Rizzo]

Thats wired.

Kleiner will be killed by gman. You see him on the monitor, and Gman walks up behind him and then it goes black. When you rush to his hideout you see how it blows up. But the ultimate twis is that Kleiner... is the Gman.

[99.vikram]

Lamarr is teh Eli Vance !!!11oneone

I think it would be a great twist if the Vorts double-cross the human resistance to resurrect Nihilanth, or join the Combine, or something...

[Samon]

I think it would be a great twist if the Vorts double-cross the human resistance to resurrect Nihilanth, or join the Combine, or something...

No. :p